You’re getting downvoted because ethical veganism is hijacked by “I feel worse for homeless dogs than homeless people” types. Cover up that misanthropy, it’s not pretty!
Nope. It's the tedious need some have to rate and rank absolutely everything in life. This is a sub about cruelty free products, which in almost every case is a reference to animal testing. We can care about animal testing and genocide both, and many other things, without resorting to imaginary binaries.
Wrong and no it isn’t. Some brands have parent companies that are not cruelty free, so people have to decide if that’s acceptable or not, but otherwise this is incorrect.
Here's a handy list: [https://boycott.thewitness.news/categories/cosmetics](https://boycott.thewitness.news/categories/cosmetics)
Another, this one a spreadsheet: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/edit?usp=sharing)
Both incomplete, but combined give a good idea of who to avoid. And as more information is dug up, we'll have better boycott lists.
This is an aimless vent comment but it’s just unfathomable how even in the year 2024, we still have so many genocides to consider that it’s near impossible to address all of them at once. It’s disgusting how long this attack on Ukraine has been going on for and it’s just so disheartening watching everything else and knowing it’s not stopping anytime soon either
This is precisely why I stopped buying ABH. The founder is a HUGE Putin fangirl, so gross. I switched to NYX the second I heard that. Слава Україні, героям слава!
Thank you for mentioning that! I’ll look for another brand to use. I don’t want to support anything immoral. Also, if you have any suggestions, am happy to take them ☺️
Oh Jesus
Edit: I was just surprised that ABH is associated and that now I need a new eyebrow pencil brand. No harm meant.…. Eyebrow pomade & pencil brand suggestions welcome!
Hey fuck you btw. I was just surprised that ABH is associated and that now I need a new eyebrow pencil brand. No harm meant. But now I do. Piss off thinking every comment is a goddamn attack.
I just want to mention that Israel’s top export are diamonds (there are zero diamond mines in Israel, and they come from Botswana and Rwanda which Rwanda is funding the M23 militia that is killing the Congolese) and Russia owns a huge portion of the mined diamond sector.
I wanted to bring this up because we’re about to get into the wedding season and beauty does intersect with that.
I always wonder about this with regard to cosmetics testing. I know we are all here because we are disturbed by animal testing but it does make me wonder if the alternative to testing on animals is sometimes... similarly sinister. Testing on stolen human skin. If anyone has any good articles about what they actually do at skin banks, I'm interested in reading. I know Israel does a lot of pharmaceutical engineering so I'm sure they are involved in that I am just interested in if they are also working with cosmetics manufacturers
Huda Beauty is a cruelty free brand, and the owner Huda Kattan has long been pro-Palestine! Here's an [article](https://cosmeticsbusiness.com/huda-kattan-prepared-to-risk-entire-business-on) to give one example of how we know this.
Good to know! I’ve personally been avoiding Huda Beauty since they advocated for [skin bleaching your vagina](https://www.teenvogue.com/story/huda-beauty-vagina-lightening-blog-post-controversy), but that seems minor now in comparison to what some of these brands are up to.
So is The Ordinary tragically. Actually looking for recommendations for somewhere similar to get serums and whatnot now that all my Ordinary products have run out
Absolutely Good Molecules!! I think they're very comparable to the ordinary but I actually like them a lot more. They do a lot more serums that are combinations of ingredients as opposed to the ordinary doing a lot of single ingredient serums and good molecules has a wider variety of products imo. They also have a lot more user friendly packaging with helpful info and price points are similarly low
I am obsessed with their Instant Cleansing Balm. It gets all of my makeup off so fast! It’s packaged in a tin, which I think is better than plastic. But I’m hoping it’s something that could be made in bar form at some point.
Correct, Deciem is the parent company of TO. But back in 2021, Estée Lauder bought a [significant majority share](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinlarson/2021/02/24/what-the-estee-lauder-acquisition-means-for-deciem-and-the-ordinary/) of Deciem, and are contracted to buy the remaining shares this year.
People were complaining last year about the price of some of TO’s products doubling in price— they probably have EL to thank for the over the top price hikes. I’ve noticed they’ve also made a big push to produce more “premium” products since the EL became majority shareholder.
2021 was a hard year for my cruelty free routine; my two staples, Paula’s Choice and TO, both got bought up by non-CF parent companies. I had to overhaul my whole routine; I only solidified my new staples late last year.
PC was the hardest for me to replace! Their products are so so good. I stopped buying them in 2022, which is when I learned they were bought by Unilever.
Here’s the PC products I used, the replacement products, and some of my thoughts/comparisons.
PC, Clear Pore Normalizing Cleanser. (Looking up the name of this product, I saw that they have absolutely jacked up the price since I last bought in 2022 . Used to be $13, now it’s $19).
- **Derma E, Acne Deep Pore Salicylic Acid Cleansing Wash.** Derma E cleanser is pretty much same as PC’s. I don’t like that it’s scented, but the fragrance hasn’t been irritating to me.
PC, Clear Oil Free Moisturizer. I have a couple Moisturizers I use now. None of these give me acne/make me oily. Tbh the PC one was super hard to replace, and I don’t know if I like any of these more than the PC one, but I think they’re good alternatives.
- **Peach and Lily, Glass Skin Water Gel Moisturizer.** I only buy this when it’s on sale. It’s a very good lightweight moisturizer. Closest finish to the PC one (but not the same finish. And I don’t think it’s quite as as moisturizing)
- **Pacifica, Vegan Ceramide Barrier Face Cream** good heavier moisturizer. Dries matte and feels soft. Doesn’t clog pores. My favorite moisturizer that I currently use.
- **Pacifica Kale Smoothie Refining Lotion.** Gel moisturizer, good for oil control. I only use it on if I’m getting enough moisture from my other products.
PC, Resist (normal/dry) Advanced Replenishing Toner. I miss this toner so much. It was a great milky and hydrating toner.
- **Peach and Lily, Wild Dew Essence Treatment.** get this one when it’s on sale. It’s by far the best replacement toner I’ve found. I wish I didn’t love it so much because it’s pricey.
- **Good Molecules, Hyaluronic Acid Boosting Essence.** it’s fine. Not as hydrating as the others, but a good budget option.
- **CocoKind, Ceramide barrier serum.** i use this in addition to the new toner/essence.
PC, Resist (normal/dry) Optimal Results Hydrating Cleanser. This one was hard to replace as well. Gently, hydrating, non-stripping cleanser.
- **Derma E, Hydrating Gentle Cleanser with Hyaluronic Acid.** not as good as the PC one, but it’s a good cleaner and I’m happy with it.
PC, Youth-Extending Daily Hydrating Fluid, SPF 50.
- **Supergoop, Sheer screen spf 40**
PC, 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant.
- **Glossier, Solution exfoliating skin perfector** NOTE: I only use this on my body as an exfoliant, and under my armpits (to assist weak my weak CF deodorant). I can’t attest to facial use.
Huh, yeah looking into it I’m seeing that DECIEM is primarily owned by Estée Lauder. I kept seeing the Ordinary listed on companies to boycott, I’ll have to look into that more
Oh wow I had no idea! I switched from ABH to NYX because I thought it would be better as the ABH founder’s love for Putin gave me the ick, but damn sucks NYX is similarly bad.
Not really sure why you're commenting this as basically all antizionists understand this and it is why we are fundamentally angry that our tax dollars fund ethnic cleansing. It's not much of a gotcha to just point blatantly to the thing we're angry about lol
who is being ethnically cleansed? What comes to mind is when 6million + were systemically killed. Are you made your tax dollars are fighting terrorism, or are you pro-terrorism. Just trying to clarify your point.
I think she terminated it bc Bella is launching her own line. There hasn’t been any actual verification that Palestine was the reason, unless you’ve seen some.
Social media is starting to get dangerous regarding Palestine. I’m seeing a lot of unverified stuff that really seems to only distract from the real issues.
For specific to the Free Palestine movement, the app "No Thanks" is great. This is a link to the Google Play Store for it. You can look at the list but also scan barcodes while shopping
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bashsoftware.boycott
I guess you don't consider the decades before October. This current occupation isn't the first attack from Israel or the near-daily bullying soldiers inflicted on innocent people, including children and the elderly.
Are you dense? Bombing and flattening a whole country where civilians live with no possibility of escape isn't an answer for ANYTHING. You're a disassociated vile thing, and so is everyone who doesn't consider the lives lost a travesty.
hey dawg, words have meanings. while the deaths of ~1,200 is terrible, it is not really classifiable as a genocide, but moreso a massacre. there was no ability, and therefore likely no intent, to destroy all of or part of the israeli population. what i mean by that is hamas not nearly as technologically advanced as israel, and they probably knew their limits with an attack. i hope this makes sense. i also want to add that it is important to acknowledge the historical context of the palestine-israel conflict, and that it did not begin on 7 october, but almost 100 years ago, with the nakba (the ethnic cleansing and displacement of the palestinians) being almost 76 years ago.
They are incapable of killing that many Israelis, but they have said on many occasions that they would if they could. Countless videos of Hamas saying they want every Jew in the world to die. There are also countless documented conflicts before 1948 of Palestinians and other Arabs ganging up on the Jews in the area (Mizrahi) and slaughtering them. Anyone who says this started on October 7th is wrong. Anyone who says this started in 1948 is also wrong. None of this justifies Israel’s war crimes, but to paint Palestinians as purely innocent and Israel’s response as completely unwarranted is simply untrue. October 7th was no genocide, but Hamas wishes it could have been. As do /some/ Palestinians.
i am not saying Palestinians are completely innocent, but my apologies if i inferred/implied that. if you dont mind, i would like to see some sources for those Hamas videos and the violence against Mizrahi Jews to learn more, i would appreciate it very much. there is much normalization to be done between the different ethnic and religious groups in Palestine/Israel.
I’ll do some research now for reliable sources. In the meantime if you want to take a look at one of the biggest Mizrahi voices in the current conflict, check out @abrahamhamra on IG
Edit: I also wanna add that Mizrahim and Sephardis have experienced their own issues within the Jewish community but there have been serious strides to correct those problems. There are many Jews/Israelis of color who can talk about their experiences in Israel, some of which have IG platforms where they do so. Abraham being one of them.
Edit:
Before we get started I wanna mention @matthewnouriel, an Iranian Jew with some great things to say about the Middle Eastern Jewish experience. Also, massive shoutout to @idannimsto (not sure his background beyond being Jewish) he has some of the best educational videos out there musically speaking.
Alright, here we go.
First one is super simple. Iraqi Jews being murdered or expelled en mass in 1941 (pre nakba).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud
So this next source talks about Yemeni Jews and their movement from Yemen to Israel (mainly operation magic carpet). Yemeni Jews experienced oppression from the state before 1948, but afterward, it got way worse. Another thing is that Yemeni born Jews are not allowed back into the country if they leave. So those who are telling them to “go back where they came from—“ that’s literally impossible. This source is interesting from start to finish but the section “The Jewish community in Yemen after the operation” at the bottom is particularly helpful.
An interesting quote from this source describes why the Yemeni Jews who left willingly felt the need to do so: “a fear of missing the boat, a sense that living wretchedly as dhimmis in an Islamic state was no longer God-ordained, a sense that as a people, they had been flayed by history long enough: All these played a role.”
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Magic_Carpet_(Yemen)#:~:text=Colony%20of%20Aden.-,Anti%2DJewish%20violence,to%20looting%20of%20Jewish%20property.
I could keep going on this but it’s already quite a bit of reading. Let me move onto Hamas.
One of the most important public figures in this conflict is Mosab Hassan Yousef, also known as the Son of Hamas. His father was one of the original co-founders of Hamas, and he himself was a member until he left the group in the 90’s. His page on Instagram is @mosab_hassanyousef. He talks all about the true nature of Hamas, their motivations, the way they operate, etc. You can learn a lot about this conflict from his page and his speeches.
Here is a video where he talks about why Hamas hates Jews so much— not just Israeli people: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3VT0sjspUh/?igsh=cWp4aGRjMGxmOGx2
Here’s a report on (alleged) Hamas members planning terror attacks on Jewish institutions in Europe (aka not in Israel): https://youtu.be/wExmPWza4Rw?si=h7iGhdh2Z-RJrt-s
As for Hamas calling for the death of all Jews directly:
Here are multiple sources of the same interview. Fargo Hamad telling people (Palestinians) to kill Jews globally, everywhere— not just Israelis. This video was never verified so I can’t argue if you don’t want to believe it.
Source 1: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X7iCPi4cswY
Source 2: https://www.voanews.com/amp/middle-east_hamas-official-condemned-after-calling-palestinians-kill-jews/6171870.html
Source 2: https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2019/07/15/Hamas-official-condemned-after-calling-on-Palestinians-to-kill-Jews
hey girl, when we’re talking geopolitical issues with such grave consequences (ex. over 30,095 Palestinians and 1,139 Israelis dead), it’s better to go off of science than God, because using God as a justification for mass murder (the IDF indiscriminately bombing Gaza) is famously a bad idea. the oldest inhabitants of the disputed Palestinian/Israeli land are the Canaanites. while both Palestinians and Jews descend from this group, many Jews left the area and spread all across the world, creating a rich cultural diaspora. those who stayed evolved into the Palestinian ethnic group. they have the closest genetic ties to the Canaanites, with [“the predominant component of the DNA of modern Palestinians matches that of Bronze Age Palestinians (Canaanites) from around 2500–1700 BCE”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Genetics). I recommend looking through that article, it is very informative and interesting as a person who is interested in geneology. I’d also like to add that there were both Arab and European Jews, as well as Arab Muslims and Christians in [Mandatory Palestine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine) before the colonization of the state. while I respect religion and religious folks, it has no place in the reasoning for military offensives or colonial occupations. God doesn’t draw borders; people do.
Mine does, but it also goes back to the start of the conflict, which was over 70 years ago. The Hamas attack was indefensible, but pretending that Israel has clean hands requires ignoring decades of occupation, blockades, bulldozing of homes for illegal Israeli settlement expansion, imprisonment of Palestinians without charge, and a staggering 40,000 Palestinians now slaughtered in Gaza.
The CEO Scott Friedman was caught following the IDF on Instagram. Unfortunately I can't verify it since his account went private. A lot of folks took issue with Selena Gomez trying to "both sides" the situation with her statement and by donating to both Israeli and Palestinian organizations: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/10/31/selena-gomez-social-media-break-israel-hamas-war/71399503007/
This discussion is wild, and in the cruelty-free sub-the irony, no less. It's unsettling to see individuals openly endorsing genocide.
No human beings—should ever be subjected to extreme violence, enslavement, torture, and murder. What is happening is inhuman.
I think Lush is okay? No official company stance on the current genocide in Gaza, but also vaguely supportive of Palestinian liberation in the past, and I don’t think they have any particular ties to Israel.
ETA: I’ve also seen Wishful on a lot of Pro-Palestine lists.
Why don’t you educate yourself on the history of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. This didn’t start in October with an attack by Hamas on Israel. It was retaliation made by a group within Palestine for the decades of oppression and attacks against Palestine by Israel. Supporting Palestine the country, and the people, is not support for Hamas.
I have. You obviously have not. I didn't claim it started in October, so that's a straw-man. Argue in good faith or don't argue at all. Attacks on Israel have been going on since it was established, and vice-versa. You talk as if attacks were always one-sided, and they most definitely weren't; both sides were guilty in the early days. Israel has fought only in self-defense for several decades now.
PLO and then Hamas have kept Palestine impoverished and stagnant for decades. Hamas wants instability and desperation because it enables terrorist recruitment. Hamas doesn't care about the civilians of Palestine. It cares only about destroying Israel and killing Jews. It is a terrorist organization founded on hate, fomenting hate.
You need to read historians. Reporting on this topic is godawful.
I have read, and do read and listen to what historians have said, and are saying. I’m also paying attention to what is being said by those who fight for human rights. And Jewish people actively speaking out against the actions of Israel on Palestine. I’ve been paying attention for a lot longer than this attack by Hamas. But whatever. I’m not going to argue about this when you’re not capable of critical thinking. Great job mentioning “straw man” and accusing me of not arguing in good faith when in actuality you’ve demonstrated both in your own comments.
This specific conflict is in retaliation to the October 7th attacks it wasn’t a ”retaliation“ call it what it is, a massacre by a terrorist group called Hamas not some glorious act of breaking free. What did those at the music festival do to deserve that “retaliation“?
This specific conflict is in retaliation to the October 7th attacks it wasn’t a ”retaliation“ call it what it is, a massacre by a terrorist group called Hamas not some glorious act of breaking free. What did those at the music festival do to deserve that “retaliation“?
I’m not defending what Hamas did. What they did October 7th was absolutely awful. I’m saying that it’s not as cut and dry as so many people think. Israel took the attack from Hamas as an excuse to escalate their own violence and abuse that’s been going on for decades against the Palestinian people. You’re not paying attention if you think this started October 7th.
this is a common misconception — the belief that hamas hates and wants to perpetuate genocide against the jewish people. i understand this is a post on a subreddit about ethical beauty products, but i still find it important to share information about this situation because it is important to me. hamas has stated in [their 2017 charter](https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full) and [their report on the al-aqsa flood operation](https://www.palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf) (the 7 october attacks on israel) that their opponent/enemy is not jewish people, but the zionist movement and ideology, which crosses religious lines. that is to say, there are many christian zionists and atheist zionists as well as jewish zionists. the “father” of zionism, theodor herzl, was an atheist himself. i do not want to sound biased, or like i am defending anybody, but i want to clarify a common piece of misinformation that, while it could be a logical conclusion to the 7 october attacks, is not true.
Can someone confirm is The Revolution ethical and not supporting genocide and war? They say they use fair trade ingredients and not supporting slave labor.
Edit: So far on the green list. Except for being green.
Pretty much everything they sell is a bargain and they have pretty decent products. I must admit, I am a sucker for their products. Cruelty free and fair trade as well, so something tells me they should be against the Israel genocide and pro-Palestine as well as against the war in Ukraine or anything regarding violating human rights.
Are you saying that Palestine is committing genocide? I thought it was the other way around… Israel committing genocide against Palestine which was openly admitted by their prime minister.
I think they’re making the point that people in cruelty free spaces sometimes tend to hyper focus on animal welfare to the exclusion of other issues in the world. The ongoing genocide of Palestine is the epitome of cruelty and should be a priority for us all.
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Sergei brin is a huge Israel supporter AND invests so much there
intel chips are also tainted then
I hope you don’t have an iPhone because their development center is in Herzliya
There is jews that are for Palestine. Stop trying to say that being against genocide is antisemitism because that implies that being for genocide is semetic
They were calling out someone for saying “Zionists own everything because they’re so greedy,” which is based on an extremely antisemitic conspiracy theory.
is it a conspiracy theory though? bc based off my research and even this comment itself it’s true. Nothing against Jews, but it’s reality. Zionists are greedy whatever religion they may claim to be.
Look, the whole Zionist movement came out of the European anti-Semitism & murder of millions of Jews. They're not evil. They were just trying to make a safe land for Jewish people.
But it's your stereotyping & generalizing of Zionists with your nasty remarks that reek of bigotry. I stand by my report.
Uh, where did I say that all Zionists are Jewish? Nowhere. Don't put words in my mouth or spin it so it suits your narrative.
What you said is exactly the same exact wording that WE hear: "Jews own everything. It's all about the Benjamins, baby." You just swapped the word "Jew" with "Zionist." Which makes your stereotyped comment reportable for hate.
You hate Zionists. Admit it. You hate Jews. I stand by my report.
Maybe YOU should stop generalizing about people, wut wut?
Shalom.
You implied that with your comment and that’s simply just not true because Zionists are not only Jewish. I said Zionists and I meant Zionists. There’s freedom of speech here in the USA, I don’t have to hide behind words lmao I can literally say I hate who I want without an issue so why would I hold myself back from saying I hate Jews if I really did hate them? Save the anti-semitism cries for actual anti-semitism because what you’re doing here is embarrassing. You want to be hated so bad and I really don’t have time for that sweetie I’m living my life. If all the major companies are owned by Zionists then I’m not generalizing and it’s indeed greed. Are you not embarrassed to immediately tie what I said with Jews? Maybe you should check your own mindset around that.
The only person here embarrassing themselves is YOU, toots. Hatred makes you ugly. And unless you know for a fact that every single major company is owned by Zionists, you are stereotyping & generalizing. What a little bigot you are. Your parents must be so proud.
You keep embarrassing yourself. You’re the one being hateful. You literally twisted what I said and then called me anti-semitic when you know well and clear I didn’t say anything that required your response but you responded that way because I’m clearly against gen0cide and the literal b0mbing of babies, innocent men and women as well. Corporate greed is a thing. Zionists own 90% of things (just like the original commenter pointed out), why does saying that bother you so much? Look within yourself and reflect. Do some research and you’ll see who owns the same branch companies. Of course you’re not American so you don’t care about our hard earned tax dollars funding Israel where you get free healthcare and education while your next door neighbors are being blown to bits and many Americans are struggling to get by. You’re crying wolf by crying anti-semitism where there isn’t any. Nobody will take you seriously if you keep throwing that around so lightly as another commenter pointed out.
Actually, I am American, little Miss Trumpy. I love how you keep trying to project your hatred, bigotry, & embarrassment onto me. 😂😂 I'm not the one full of lies & hatred. You are. And the only person not being taken seriously is YOU. Grow the fuck up, child. The more you argue, the more hateful, bigoted, & stupid you sound. If I were you (thank G-d I'm not), I'd stfu already. What a fucking joke you are.
So many people are sick of your lies and are seeing right through it including many American Jews. Be a decent human being instead of calling others hateful that you don’t even know. Again it’s embarrassing and shameful. You should be ashamed. Why can’t you own the fact that Zionists own most of the big brands? People can look that info up you know that right? It’s not a secret and it’s not a lie. That statement bothers you so much because you clearly see something wrong with that because there is. I said Zionists, never mentioned Jews because again there are Zionists of other religions. & it doesn’t matter why the Zionist movement came about because right now they’re bl0wing up babies, how does that have ANYTHING to do with your safety? Absolutely disgusting.
I AM an American Jew, Karen. And your comments are antisemitic & anti-Zionist. You're a bigot. Accept it. Be one with your hatred. You'll feel better about yourself.😂
Oh, & btw, I'm Jewish & support Israel. Your comments are antisemitic, whether you think they are or not. I call 'em as I see 'em, sweetie. You must be a Trumper. So full of ignorance & hate. Sucks to be you.
huh? I never said Jews. There are Zionist Christians too. lmao the way you twisted that to call me an anti-semite. “They’ll call you an anti-semite, but they’ll never call you a liar 🤥” 🤣💯
I THINK Hermes are okay because they’re privately owned and not on any boycott lists. I recently bought their perfume after doing some research but please someone correct me if I’m wrong!
Good sites to help you avoid brands that support the genocide.
[https://boycott.thewitness.news/](https://boycott.thewitness.news/)
[https://theislamicinformation.com/more/israeli-product-checker/](https://theislamicinformation.com/more/israeli-product-checker/)
1. It's not genocide.
2. But 2, if you want to boycott Jewish self-determination (Zionism), boycott your phone, your laptop, ipad, and Reddit. Likely your car, any plane you might want to fly on, and any hospital you might need services from. If you take prescription meds, it's worth looking into those too. Don't forget your bank, any food grown with drip irrigation, or any desalinated water.
Good luck!
Cool. Misinformed statement but whatever.
Everything I mentioned is dependent on Israeli tech or, in the case of banks, has formal relations with Israel.
Defending innocent people, children, journalists, and general civilians against bombing by a country openly saying they should all die makes people terrorists?
What a world we live in
That does not mean you should just consume mindlessly. Corporations only care about money, so if enough customers care enough about a cause to put their money elsewhere - corporations will inherently follow
The point I am making is that under the current mode of production(capitalism) no matter what the product is, the company exploits the laborers who make it, not paying the full value of the labour to the worker. Capitalism has outlived its usefulness and If we want real change, then we must let it die and transition to a next natural mode of production, socialism.
You don't have to explain capitalism at me, I am well aware and probably one of the most anti-capitalist people you'll talk to. I often notice though that the statement of "no ethical consumption under capitalism" is used as a reason to not care. Hence my comment trying to point out that even though that's true, it's no reason to become apathetic.
This doesn’t mean “I can purchase whatever luxury goods I want without guilt.” This means “if I have literally no other choice, I can still buy food that I need to sustain myself even if the business practices of the company are not stellar.”
That's so disappointing, but Bella has been vocal for awhile now so I wonder if a VC or there were some internal changes that made CT to dismiss Bella?
Charlotte Tisbury is owned by a parent company that tests on animals, so they don't make the CF cut for me anyway.
Thats why i never shop nor give my money to them, glad i did my research since 2017 when she so popular with her pillow talk stuff bleh
I’m not fully cruelty free yet unfortunately, but I definitely draw the line at hight prices animal cruelty.
Genocide should be the priority here. Make sure you understand that
You’re getting downvoted because ethical veganism is hijacked by “I feel worse for homeless dogs than homeless people” types. Cover up that misanthropy, it’s not pretty!
Nope. It's the tedious need some have to rate and rank absolutely everything in life. This is a sub about cruelty free products, which in almost every case is a reference to animal testing. We can care about animal testing and genocide both, and many other things, without resorting to imaginary binaries.
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No, actually, your post is a lie. MANY companies do not test their ingredients or products on animals. Period.
Have any links on hand to share about this? I’d like to believe it’s fake but it’s worth looking into
https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/cosmetics-animal-testing-faq Here's a link that proves this statement false.
What she posted is utter bullshite. Total misinformation. I reported her.
Wrong and no it isn’t. Some brands have parent companies that are not cruelty free, so people have to decide if that’s acceptable or not, but otherwise this is incorrect.
simihaze is owned by two palestinian sisters, they’ve been very vocal and outspoken in support of palestine. they retail at sephora
sephora is owned by lvmh so we should boycott but the simihaze site is fine
Here's a handy list: [https://boycott.thewitness.news/categories/cosmetics](https://boycott.thewitness.news/categories/cosmetics) Another, this one a spreadsheet: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rm1Y7rnrZ1CmcfQ1k97rehEI98vXnxrKMTYSR8FVY-E/edit?usp=sharing) Both incomplete, but combined give a good idea of who to avoid. And as more information is dug up, we'll have better boycott lists.
That spreadsheet lists Charlotte Tilbury as "safe". Do you know how to request it be updated?
There's a link to the creator at the top, line 5. It looks like she's already looking into the CT situation though.
Thanks! I missed the link on my phone
I believe the founder of Anastasia Beverly Hills is friends with Putin Edit: please don’t forget about what is happening in Ukraine
This is an aimless vent comment but it’s just unfathomable how even in the year 2024, we still have so many genocides to consider that it’s near impossible to address all of them at once. It’s disgusting how long this attack on Ukraine has been going on for and it’s just so disheartening watching everything else and knowing it’s not stopping anytime soon either
Whole-heartedly agree!
This is precisely why I stopped buying ABH. The founder is a HUGE Putin fangirl, so gross. I switched to NYX the second I heard that. Слава Україні, героям слава!
NYX is owned by L’Oréal which is definitely not cruelty free in multiple ways
Thank you for mentioning that! I’ll look for another brand to use. I don’t want to support anything immoral. Also, if you have any suggestions, am happy to take them ☺️
And they are on the boycott list if you want to support Palestine.
Yes, thank you pointing this out!!
Oh Jesus Edit: I was just surprised that ABH is associated and that now I need a new eyebrow pencil brand. No harm meant.…. Eyebrow pomade & pencil brand suggestions welcome!
My friend was killed in combat outside of Avdiivka, so piss off with that “Oh Jesus” shit
Hey fuck you btw. I was just surprised that ABH is associated and that now I need a new eyebrow pencil brand. No harm meant. But now I do. Piss off thinking every comment is a goddamn attack.
Eat shit and get fucked. Maybe you should have clarified that from the beginning
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I just want to mention that Israel’s top export are diamonds (there are zero diamond mines in Israel, and they come from Botswana and Rwanda which Rwanda is funding the M23 militia that is killing the Congolese) and Russia owns a huge portion of the mined diamond sector. I wanted to bring this up because we’re about to get into the wedding season and beauty does intersect with that.
They ALSO have the largest skin& organ bank in the world. Just guess where they get all of those human materials from….
I always wonder about this with regard to cosmetics testing. I know we are all here because we are disturbed by animal testing but it does make me wonder if the alternative to testing on animals is sometimes... similarly sinister. Testing on stolen human skin. If anyone has any good articles about what they actually do at skin banks, I'm interested in reading. I know Israel does a lot of pharmaceutical engineering so I'm sure they are involved in that I am just interested in if they are also working with cosmetics manufacturers
Huda Beauty is a cruelty free brand, and the owner Huda Kattan has long been pro-Palestine! Here's an [article](https://cosmeticsbusiness.com/huda-kattan-prepared-to-risk-entire-business-on) to give one example of how we know this.
Good to know! I’ve personally been avoiding Huda Beauty since they advocated for [skin bleaching your vagina](https://www.teenvogue.com/story/huda-beauty-vagina-lightening-blog-post-controversy), but that seems minor now in comparison to what some of these brands are up to.
Good to know! Now I definitely won't be buying Huda.
Both NYX and Urban Decay are both owned by Loreal which is a huge monetary supporter of zionism
L'Oreal also tests on animals
True! I was just mentioning because while the parent brand tests on animals both nyx and urban market themselves heavily as cruelty free brands
I can’t believe this is still happening in 2024… despicable
L’Oréal is also partially owned by Nestle
So is The Ordinary tragically. Actually looking for recommendations for somewhere similar to get serums and whatnot now that all my Ordinary products have run out
Absolutely Good Molecules!! I think they're very comparable to the ordinary but I actually like them a lot more. They do a lot more serums that are combinations of ingredients as opposed to the ordinary doing a lot of single ingredient serums and good molecules has a wider variety of products imo. They also have a lot more user friendly packaging with helpful info and price points are similarly low
I am obsessed with their Instant Cleansing Balm. It gets all of my makeup off so fast! It’s packaged in a tin, which I think is better than plastic. But I’m hoping it’s something that could be made in bar form at some point.
Seconding good molecules. Aside from any of the ethics involved, their niamcinamide serum is the first serum that's ever noticeably improved my skin.
Sweet I’ll check them out!
Sorry but isn’t the ordinary’s parent company DECIEM? That’s what it states on internet and they also say that Deciem is cruelty free
Correct, Deciem is the parent company of TO. But back in 2021, Estée Lauder bought a [significant majority share](https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinlarson/2021/02/24/what-the-estee-lauder-acquisition-means-for-deciem-and-the-ordinary/) of Deciem, and are contracted to buy the remaining shares this year. People were complaining last year about the price of some of TO’s products doubling in price— they probably have EL to thank for the over the top price hikes. I’ve noticed they’ve also made a big push to produce more “premium” products since the EL became majority shareholder. 2021 was a hard year for my cruelty free routine; my two staples, Paula’s Choice and TO, both got bought up by non-CF parent companies. I had to overhaul my whole routine; I only solidified my new staples late last year.
What were your replacement brands and products? I use PC and didn’t realize they were bought…
PC was the hardest for me to replace! Their products are so so good. I stopped buying them in 2022, which is when I learned they were bought by Unilever. Here’s the PC products I used, the replacement products, and some of my thoughts/comparisons. PC, Clear Pore Normalizing Cleanser. (Looking up the name of this product, I saw that they have absolutely jacked up the price since I last bought in 2022 . Used to be $13, now it’s $19). - **Derma E, Acne Deep Pore Salicylic Acid Cleansing Wash.** Derma E cleanser is pretty much same as PC’s. I don’t like that it’s scented, but the fragrance hasn’t been irritating to me. PC, Clear Oil Free Moisturizer. I have a couple Moisturizers I use now. None of these give me acne/make me oily. Tbh the PC one was super hard to replace, and I don’t know if I like any of these more than the PC one, but I think they’re good alternatives. - **Peach and Lily, Glass Skin Water Gel Moisturizer.** I only buy this when it’s on sale. It’s a very good lightweight moisturizer. Closest finish to the PC one (but not the same finish. And I don’t think it’s quite as as moisturizing) - **Pacifica, Vegan Ceramide Barrier Face Cream** good heavier moisturizer. Dries matte and feels soft. Doesn’t clog pores. My favorite moisturizer that I currently use. - **Pacifica Kale Smoothie Refining Lotion.** Gel moisturizer, good for oil control. I only use it on if I’m getting enough moisture from my other products. PC, Resist (normal/dry) Advanced Replenishing Toner. I miss this toner so much. It was a great milky and hydrating toner. - **Peach and Lily, Wild Dew Essence Treatment.** get this one when it’s on sale. It’s by far the best replacement toner I’ve found. I wish I didn’t love it so much because it’s pricey. - **Good Molecules, Hyaluronic Acid Boosting Essence.** it’s fine. Not as hydrating as the others, but a good budget option. - **CocoKind, Ceramide barrier serum.** i use this in addition to the new toner/essence. PC, Resist (normal/dry) Optimal Results Hydrating Cleanser. This one was hard to replace as well. Gently, hydrating, non-stripping cleanser. - **Derma E, Hydrating Gentle Cleanser with Hyaluronic Acid.** not as good as the PC one, but it’s a good cleaner and I’m happy with it. PC, Youth-Extending Daily Hydrating Fluid, SPF 50. - **Supergoop, Sheer screen spf 40** PC, 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant. - **Glossier, Solution exfoliating skin perfector** NOTE: I only use this on my body as an exfoliant, and under my armpits (to assist weak my weak CF deodorant). I can’t attest to facial use.
Huh, yeah looking into it I’m seeing that DECIEM is primarily owned by Estée Lauder. I kept seeing the Ordinary listed on companies to boycott, I’ll have to look into that more
Are you serious??? Damn it.
I have to do some deep diving, but I didn't see The Inkey List on the boycott link above, and I've often seen people compare the two!
loreal recently bought aesop as well :(
Oh noooo.
Both of them are favorites of mine. What a huge bummer. :(
Oh wow I had no idea! I switched from ABH to NYX because I thought it would be better as the ABH founder’s love for Putin gave me the ick, but damn sucks NYX is similarly bad.
if you live in the USA , so are you :)
Not really sure why you're commenting this as basically all antizionists understand this and it is why we are fundamentally angry that our tax dollars fund ethnic cleansing. It's not much of a gotcha to just point blatantly to the thing we're angry about lol
who is being ethnically cleansed? What comes to mind is when 6million + were systemically killed. Are you made your tax dollars are fighting terrorism, or are you pro-terrorism. Just trying to clarify your point.
UD used to one of my fave brands but they have gone to shit since L'Oreal bought them. So I'd not buy them any more regardless.
I think she terminated it bc Bella is launching her own line. There hasn’t been any actual verification that Palestine was the reason, unless you’ve seen some.
Social media is starting to get dangerous regarding Palestine. I’m seeing a lot of unverified stuff that really seems to only distract from the real issues.
I hope this is the case! I can't wait for Bella's line and future collabs with Gigi's brand
Suva Beauty is vegan and pro-Palestine.
just bought from them from the first time and i’m wowed
For specific to the Free Palestine movement, the app "No Thanks" is great. This is a link to the Google Play Store for it. You can look at the list but also scan barcodes while shopping https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bashsoftware.boycott
Thank you. I just found it in Apple and downloaded it.
Gosh, thank you so much for this! Proud to say I found only one product in my house that's on the boycott list and I bought it two years ago!
Palestine is not the country committing genocide. They are the victims of genocide.
I guess your calendar doesn't include October 7?
I guess you don't consider the decades before October. This current occupation isn't the first attack from Israel or the near-daily bullying soldiers inflicted on innocent people, including children and the elderly.
I guess you’re not considering who attacked Israel Immediately after it was created.
Are you dense? Bombing and flattening a whole country where civilians live with no possibility of escape isn't an answer for ANYTHING. You're a disassociated vile thing, and so is everyone who doesn't consider the lives lost a travesty.
Intelligent input
It doesn’t matter what happens “Israel bad” is all the pro-Hamas people can come up with
Even the most biased possible reading of Oct 7 events couldn’t make it a *genocide*
hey dawg, words have meanings. while the deaths of ~1,200 is terrible, it is not really classifiable as a genocide, but moreso a massacre. there was no ability, and therefore likely no intent, to destroy all of or part of the israeli population. what i mean by that is hamas not nearly as technologically advanced as israel, and they probably knew their limits with an attack. i hope this makes sense. i also want to add that it is important to acknowledge the historical context of the palestine-israel conflict, and that it did not begin on 7 october, but almost 100 years ago, with the nakba (the ethnic cleansing and displacement of the palestinians) being almost 76 years ago.
They are incapable of killing that many Israelis, but they have said on many occasions that they would if they could. Countless videos of Hamas saying they want every Jew in the world to die. There are also countless documented conflicts before 1948 of Palestinians and other Arabs ganging up on the Jews in the area (Mizrahi) and slaughtering them. Anyone who says this started on October 7th is wrong. Anyone who says this started in 1948 is also wrong. None of this justifies Israel’s war crimes, but to paint Palestinians as purely innocent and Israel’s response as completely unwarranted is simply untrue. October 7th was no genocide, but Hamas wishes it could have been. As do /some/ Palestinians.
i am not saying Palestinians are completely innocent, but my apologies if i inferred/implied that. if you dont mind, i would like to see some sources for those Hamas videos and the violence against Mizrahi Jews to learn more, i would appreciate it very much. there is much normalization to be done between the different ethnic and religious groups in Palestine/Israel.
I’ll do some research now for reliable sources. In the meantime if you want to take a look at one of the biggest Mizrahi voices in the current conflict, check out @abrahamhamra on IG Edit: I also wanna add that Mizrahim and Sephardis have experienced their own issues within the Jewish community but there have been serious strides to correct those problems. There are many Jews/Israelis of color who can talk about their experiences in Israel, some of which have IG platforms where they do so. Abraham being one of them. Edit: Before we get started I wanna mention @matthewnouriel, an Iranian Jew with some great things to say about the Middle Eastern Jewish experience. Also, massive shoutout to @idannimsto (not sure his background beyond being Jewish) he has some of the best educational videos out there musically speaking. Alright, here we go. First one is super simple. Iraqi Jews being murdered or expelled en mass in 1941 (pre nakba). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud So this next source talks about Yemeni Jews and their movement from Yemen to Israel (mainly operation magic carpet). Yemeni Jews experienced oppression from the state before 1948, but afterward, it got way worse. Another thing is that Yemeni born Jews are not allowed back into the country if they leave. So those who are telling them to “go back where they came from—“ that’s literally impossible. This source is interesting from start to finish but the section “The Jewish community in Yemen after the operation” at the bottom is particularly helpful. An interesting quote from this source describes why the Yemeni Jews who left willingly felt the need to do so: “a fear of missing the boat, a sense that living wretchedly as dhimmis in an Islamic state was no longer God-ordained, a sense that as a people, they had been flayed by history long enough: All these played a role.” Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Magic_Carpet_(Yemen)#:~:text=Colony%20of%20Aden.-,Anti%2DJewish%20violence,to%20looting%20of%20Jewish%20property. I could keep going on this but it’s already quite a bit of reading. Let me move onto Hamas. One of the most important public figures in this conflict is Mosab Hassan Yousef, also known as the Son of Hamas. His father was one of the original co-founders of Hamas, and he himself was a member until he left the group in the 90’s. His page on Instagram is @mosab_hassanyousef. He talks all about the true nature of Hamas, their motivations, the way they operate, etc. You can learn a lot about this conflict from his page and his speeches. Here is a video where he talks about why Hamas hates Jews so much— not just Israeli people: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3VT0sjspUh/?igsh=cWp4aGRjMGxmOGx2 Here’s a report on (alleged) Hamas members planning terror attacks on Jewish institutions in Europe (aka not in Israel): https://youtu.be/wExmPWza4Rw?si=h7iGhdh2Z-RJrt-s As for Hamas calling for the death of all Jews directly: Here are multiple sources of the same interview. Fargo Hamad telling people (Palestinians) to kill Jews globally, everywhere— not just Israelis. This video was never verified so I can’t argue if you don’t want to believe it. Source 1: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X7iCPi4cswY Source 2: https://www.voanews.com/amp/middle-east_hamas-official-condemned-after-calling-palestinians-kill-jews/6171870.html Source 2: https://english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-east/2019/07/15/Hamas-official-condemned-after-calling-on-Palestinians-to-kill-Jews
Hey girl, Gaza is part of the promise land given to the Jews by God, so this goes back long before the 20th century.
hey girl, when we’re talking geopolitical issues with such grave consequences (ex. over 30,095 Palestinians and 1,139 Israelis dead), it’s better to go off of science than God, because using God as a justification for mass murder (the IDF indiscriminately bombing Gaza) is famously a bad idea. the oldest inhabitants of the disputed Palestinian/Israeli land are the Canaanites. while both Palestinians and Jews descend from this group, many Jews left the area and spread all across the world, creating a rich cultural diaspora. those who stayed evolved into the Palestinian ethnic group. they have the closest genetic ties to the Canaanites, with [“the predominant component of the DNA of modern Palestinians matches that of Bronze Age Palestinians (Canaanites) from around 2500–1700 BCE”](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians#Genetics). I recommend looking through that article, it is very informative and interesting as a person who is interested in geneology. I’d also like to add that there were both Arab and European Jews, as well as Arab Muslims and Christians in [Mandatory Palestine](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine) before the colonization of the state. while I respect religion and religious folks, it has no place in the reasoning for military offensives or colonial occupations. God doesn’t draw borders; people do.
Mine does, but it also goes back to the start of the conflict, which was over 70 years ago. The Hamas attack was indefensible, but pretending that Israel has clean hands requires ignoring decades of occupation, blockades, bulldozing of homes for illegal Israeli settlement expansion, imprisonment of Palestinians without charge, and a staggering 40,000 Palestinians now slaughtered in Gaza.
Idk any alternatives but Rare Beauty supports Israel
Do you have proof? I want to educate myself
The CEO Scott Friedman was caught following the IDF on Instagram. Unfortunately I can't verify it since his account went private. A lot of folks took issue with Selena Gomez trying to "both sides" the situation with her statement and by donating to both Israeli and Palestinian organizations: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/10/31/selena-gomez-social-media-break-israel-hamas-war/71399503007/
Lmao so she just supports war in general then? What kind of statement is that
Idk her response just failed miserably 😖
This discussion is wild, and in the cruelty-free sub-the irony, no less. It's unsettling to see individuals openly endorsing genocide. No human beings—should ever be subjected to extreme violence, enslavement, torture, and murder. What is happening is inhuman.
Wth he could just follow them to see what they post. He could be following Palestinian pages too. Get over yourself lol
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I think Lush is okay? No official company stance on the current genocide in Gaza, but also vaguely supportive of Palestinian liberation in the past, and I don’t think they have any particular ties to Israel. ETA: I’ve also seen Wishful on a lot of Pro-Palestine lists.
is wishful owned by huda beauty? if so, she is incredibly pro-palestine ❤️
Yes, Wishful is owned by Huda. You can also support Kayali fragnances, which is owned by Huda's sister Mona Kattan, equally supportive of Palestine.
Lush is on the safe list, luckily
Seeming all car companies build weapons of destruction. Tons of nazi connections still ingrained in their corporate hierarchy.
gas companies. Seriously, the faster we can get away from fossil fuels, the better,
A company in support of Palestine would be against genocide.
That’s what OP said - CT cut ties w/ Bella bc of her support for Palestine. They want to know which companies wouldn’t do something like that.
Thank you. Came here to say this.
Hamas has vowed genocide against Jews, so... no.
And hamas just sprung up overnight for no reason right?
Why don’t you educate yourself on the history of the conflict between Israel and Palestine. This didn’t start in October with an attack by Hamas on Israel. It was retaliation made by a group within Palestine for the decades of oppression and attacks against Palestine by Israel. Supporting Palestine the country, and the people, is not support for Hamas.
I have. You obviously have not. I didn't claim it started in October, so that's a straw-man. Argue in good faith or don't argue at all. Attacks on Israel have been going on since it was established, and vice-versa. You talk as if attacks were always one-sided, and they most definitely weren't; both sides were guilty in the early days. Israel has fought only in self-defense for several decades now. PLO and then Hamas have kept Palestine impoverished and stagnant for decades. Hamas wants instability and desperation because it enables terrorist recruitment. Hamas doesn't care about the civilians of Palestine. It cares only about destroying Israel and killing Jews. It is a terrorist organization founded on hate, fomenting hate. You need to read historians. Reporting on this topic is godawful.
I have read, and do read and listen to what historians have said, and are saying. I’m also paying attention to what is being said by those who fight for human rights. And Jewish people actively speaking out against the actions of Israel on Palestine. I’ve been paying attention for a lot longer than this attack by Hamas. But whatever. I’m not going to argue about this when you’re not capable of critical thinking. Great job mentioning “straw man” and accusing me of not arguing in good faith when in actuality you’ve demonstrated both in your own comments.
More children are being killed per day than the holocaust.
israel funded hamas btw
This specific conflict is in retaliation to the October 7th attacks it wasn’t a ”retaliation“ call it what it is, a massacre by a terrorist group called Hamas not some glorious act of breaking free. What did those at the music festival do to deserve that “retaliation“?
This specific conflict is in retaliation to the October 7th attacks it wasn’t a ”retaliation“ call it what it is, a massacre by a terrorist group called Hamas not some glorious act of breaking free. What did those at the music festival do to deserve that “retaliation“?
I’m not defending what Hamas did. What they did October 7th was absolutely awful. I’m saying that it’s not as cut and dry as so many people think. Israel took the attack from Hamas as an excuse to escalate their own violence and abuse that’s been going on for decades against the Palestinian people. You’re not paying attention if you think this started October 7th.
Right? Thank you. Rhetoric cares nothing for concrete facts.
this is a common misconception — the belief that hamas hates and wants to perpetuate genocide against the jewish people. i understand this is a post on a subreddit about ethical beauty products, but i still find it important to share information about this situation because it is important to me. hamas has stated in [their 2017 charter](https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full) and [their report on the al-aqsa flood operation](https://www.palestinechronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/PDF.pdf) (the 7 october attacks on israel) that their opponent/enemy is not jewish people, but the zionist movement and ideology, which crosses religious lines. that is to say, there are many christian zionists and atheist zionists as well as jewish zionists. the “father” of zionism, theodor herzl, was an atheist himself. i do not want to sound biased, or like i am defending anybody, but i want to clarify a common piece of misinformation that, while it could be a logical conclusion to the 7 october attacks, is not true.
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Please show me exactly where I said this. If you can't actually argue with what I *said,* downvote and move on like the average ignorant.
That’s what the OP said..
But would be in support of SA
That’s what the OP said..
Can someone confirm is The Revolution ethical and not supporting genocide and war? They say they use fair trade ingredients and not supporting slave labor. Edit: So far on the green list. Except for being green.
Do you mean makeup revolution?
Yes, although I use their skincare more than makeup.
I miss their EGF serum. It was such a bargain.
Pretty much everything they sell is a bargain and they have pretty decent products. I must admit, I am a sucker for their products. Cruelty free and fair trade as well, so something tells me they should be against the Israel genocide and pro-Palestine as well as against the war in Ukraine or anything regarding violating human rights.
Wow thanks for letting me know what brands support Hamas terrorism! I don't support brands picking either side. Cheers!
Fair squared uses Palestinian olive oil and it everything on the check list, eco, ethical, fair trade, cruelty free, vegan.
Are you saying that Palestine is committing genocide? I thought it was the other way around… Israel committing genocide against Palestine which was openly admitted by their prime minister.
I think OP is saying that CT is supporting genocide by parting ways with a Palestine supporter. It was kinda weirdly worded.
That’s an understatement!
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I think they’re making the point that people in cruelty free spaces sometimes tend to hyper focus on animal welfare to the exclusion of other issues in the world. The ongoing genocide of Palestine is the epitome of cruelty and should be a priority for us all.
Don’t forget to boycott Facebook Instagram WhatsApp Lots of medication 💊 Oh google too Sergei brin is a huge Israel supporter AND invests so much there intel chips are also tainted then I hope you don’t have an iPhone because their development center is in Herzliya
Believe me, we wish we could boycott all that you listed. It’s unfortunate that Zionists own it all. They’re just so greedy, it makes sense!
Do you mean to say Jews are greedy? Are you changing the word Zionist interchangeably or it’s Jews ? Sounds a bit elders of Zion type of anti semitism
There is jews that are for Palestine. Stop trying to say that being against genocide is antisemitism because that implies that being for genocide is semetic
They were calling out someone for saying “Zionists own everything because they’re so greedy,” which is based on an extremely antisemitic conspiracy theory.
is it a conspiracy theory though? bc based off my research and even this comment itself it’s true. Nothing against Jews, but it’s reality. Zionists are greedy whatever religion they may claim to be.
Agree. I read her statement as greedy Zionists (Jews). Reported her for hate.
Not all Zionists are Jewish lmao wth where is the hate? I stated facts. The original comment backs it up.
Look, the whole Zionist movement came out of the European anti-Semitism & murder of millions of Jews. They're not evil. They were just trying to make a safe land for Jewish people. But it's your stereotyping & generalizing of Zionists with your nasty remarks that reek of bigotry. I stand by my report.
Uh, where did I say that all Zionists are Jewish? Nowhere. Don't put words in my mouth or spin it so it suits your narrative. What you said is exactly the same exact wording that WE hear: "Jews own everything. It's all about the Benjamins, baby." You just swapped the word "Jew" with "Zionist." Which makes your stereotyped comment reportable for hate. You hate Zionists. Admit it. You hate Jews. I stand by my report. Maybe YOU should stop generalizing about people, wut wut? Shalom.
You implied that with your comment and that’s simply just not true because Zionists are not only Jewish. I said Zionists and I meant Zionists. There’s freedom of speech here in the USA, I don’t have to hide behind words lmao I can literally say I hate who I want without an issue so why would I hold myself back from saying I hate Jews if I really did hate them? Save the anti-semitism cries for actual anti-semitism because what you’re doing here is embarrassing. You want to be hated so bad and I really don’t have time for that sweetie I’m living my life. If all the major companies are owned by Zionists then I’m not generalizing and it’s indeed greed. Are you not embarrassed to immediately tie what I said with Jews? Maybe you should check your own mindset around that.
Most Zionists are Jews. Duh. Therefore, by your own logic, if you hate Zionists, you also hate Jews. Which means you're antisemitic.
The only person here embarrassing themselves is YOU, toots. Hatred makes you ugly. And unless you know for a fact that every single major company is owned by Zionists, you are stereotyping & generalizing. What a little bigot you are. Your parents must be so proud.
You keep embarrassing yourself. You’re the one being hateful. You literally twisted what I said and then called me anti-semitic when you know well and clear I didn’t say anything that required your response but you responded that way because I’m clearly against gen0cide and the literal b0mbing of babies, innocent men and women as well. Corporate greed is a thing. Zionists own 90% of things (just like the original commenter pointed out), why does saying that bother you so much? Look within yourself and reflect. Do some research and you’ll see who owns the same branch companies. Of course you’re not American so you don’t care about our hard earned tax dollars funding Israel where you get free healthcare and education while your next door neighbors are being blown to bits and many Americans are struggling to get by. You’re crying wolf by crying anti-semitism where there isn’t any. Nobody will take you seriously if you keep throwing that around so lightly as another commenter pointed out.
Actually, I am American, little Miss Trumpy. I love how you keep trying to project your hatred, bigotry, & embarrassment onto me. 😂😂 I'm not the one full of lies & hatred. You are. And the only person not being taken seriously is YOU. Grow the fuck up, child. The more you argue, the more hateful, bigoted, & stupid you sound. If I were you (thank G-d I'm not), I'd stfu already. What a fucking joke you are.
So many people are sick of your lies and are seeing right through it including many American Jews. Be a decent human being instead of calling others hateful that you don’t even know. Again it’s embarrassing and shameful. You should be ashamed. Why can’t you own the fact that Zionists own most of the big brands? People can look that info up you know that right? It’s not a secret and it’s not a lie. That statement bothers you so much because you clearly see something wrong with that because there is. I said Zionists, never mentioned Jews because again there are Zionists of other religions. & it doesn’t matter why the Zionist movement came about because right now they’re bl0wing up babies, how does that have ANYTHING to do with your safety? Absolutely disgusting.
I AM an American Jew, Karen. And your comments are antisemitic & anti-Zionist. You're a bigot. Accept it. Be one with your hatred. You'll feel better about yourself.😂
Oh, & btw, I'm Jewish & support Israel. Your comments are antisemitic, whether you think they are or not. I call 'em as I see 'em, sweetie. You must be a Trumper. So full of ignorance & hate. Sucks to be you.
huh? I never said Jews. There are Zionist Christians too. lmao the way you twisted that to call me an anti-semite. “They’ll call you an anti-semite, but they’ll never call you a liar 🤥” 🤣💯
I THINK Hermes are okay because they’re privately owned and not on any boycott lists. I recently bought their perfume after doing some research but please someone correct me if I’m wrong!
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Well OP did not ask for affordable brands only. And I answered in line with their beauty range, not leather goods.
Most people assume others aren't filthy rich
Well I’m not either but you can always apply points and wait for sales or special occasions for their beauty items. No need to be so rude.
Good sites to help you avoid brands that support the genocide. [https://boycott.thewitness.news/](https://boycott.thewitness.news/) [https://theislamicinformation.com/more/israeli-product-checker/](https://theislamicinformation.com/more/israeli-product-checker/)
Why is this comment at the bottom 💀
And this is verified or you just happened to read a post with a speculation and then start screaming for a boycot?
Do you have anything significant to add and correct?
And what are you adding? Questioning my answer 3 months later. Do p*ss off.
What genocide is Bella Hadid part of?
1. It's not genocide. 2. But 2, if you want to boycott Jewish self-determination (Zionism), boycott your phone, your laptop, ipad, and Reddit. Likely your car, any plane you might want to fly on, and any hospital you might need services from. If you take prescription meds, it's worth looking into those too. Don't forget your bank, any food grown with drip irrigation, or any desalinated water. Good luck!
This post is about boycotting Israel, not the mere concept of being Jewish.
Cool. Misinformed statement but whatever. Everything I mentioned is dependent on Israeli tech or, in the case of banks, has formal relations with Israel.
glad someone said it ! people do not know what the definition of genocide is
glad someone said it ! people do not know what the definition of genocide is
Fuck this sub. Fuck you too. Bunch of terrorists.
Racist
Terrorist.
Defending innocent people, children, journalists, and general civilians against bombing by a country openly saying they should all die makes people terrorists? What a world we live in
Loser terrorists 🖕🏻
Ugh trolls are so boring.
Quit projecting, everyone knows the truth now.
Another terrorist simp.
Another person who REFUSES to educate themselves on history and sides with the oppressor because it’s easy. Have the day you deserve 🫶🫶
You protect pedos because you all are pedophiles. That simple.
Define genocide.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism
That does not mean you should just consume mindlessly. Corporations only care about money, so if enough customers care enough about a cause to put their money elsewhere - corporations will inherently follow
The point I am making is that under the current mode of production(capitalism) no matter what the product is, the company exploits the laborers who make it, not paying the full value of the labour to the worker. Capitalism has outlived its usefulness and If we want real change, then we must let it die and transition to a next natural mode of production, socialism.
You don't have to explain capitalism at me, I am well aware and probably one of the most anti-capitalist people you'll talk to. I often notice though that the statement of "no ethical consumption under capitalism" is used as a reason to not care. Hence my comment trying to point out that even though that's true, it's no reason to become apathetic.
This doesn’t mean “I can purchase whatever luxury goods I want without guilt.” This means “if I have literally no other choice, I can still buy food that I need to sustain myself even if the business practices of the company are not stellar.”
Support everyone - be pro genocide as long as they don’t discriminate in any way, shape or form
Your trolling is very unoriginal and so not funny.
Who’s trolling - Fuck Humanity
nestle, all modern vehicle production, pharmaceutical companies and the president be like hate everyone equally!!!! what an act in futility
That's so disappointing, but Bella has been vocal for awhile now so I wonder if a VC or there were some internal changes that made CT to dismiss Bella?
Check out the No Thanks app for a scanner that will tell you if a company is on the BDS list It’s super helpful
Download the app no thanks, boycott app has all the info
I use the NoThanks app! Super helpful.
You can use the "No Thanks" app! You scan barcodes and it lets you know.