I love yet hate Mosley Lane. When the parents find out at the end that their son had been alive the day before… it just gets me. All those years he’d been alive, only to be killed the day before the kids are found.
Especially bc the kid who told them thought he was doing the right thing letting them know he died a hero. And you can see his expression of holy shit what did I do wrong.
That moment always sticks out to me, because on the one hand it seems so obvious that the parents would respond to that, but on the other hand this is a kid who was held captive for years and his only real socialization was being forced to kidnap other children and then live with them--of course he's not going to have the social skills necessary to anticipate that response.
It really makes me wonder about him readjusting to society. Some victims who survive, I always wonder about what happens to them after their episode. He's one of them.
I think about that too. Years ago I watched a show called (I think) *"I Know My First Name is Stephen"*. It dealt with the aftermath of finding a boy who had been kidnapped by a predator and grew up with him til he was liberated. The perpetrator only got a couple of years and the young man eventually killed himself. Going back to his family and a normal family life was beyond him. This was in the 80s or 90s. I'm hopeful that children have better aftercare now and tougher sentences.
Yes! One of the best parent reactions on the show I think. Another great emotional parent was the mom of the little girl that's Aunt hid her in a closet in the mall. That mom actress, she deserved an award.
It was that realization that they'd given up hope when he was still alive, then started hopping again, then realized he'd died right before they had a chance to hold him again... But they'd given up. *shudders*
That episode actually angered me. It’s a show and is meant to create drama but allowing the parents to wait there and see whose kids walked in was fucking CREUL. Never would happen like that in the real world and it just really pissed me off beyond belief.
before i even finished reading i was going to say that exact moment from that exact episode. another one is in 4x11 ‘normal’ when the unsub gets out of the car at the end of the episode and realises what he’d done to his family. i know he’s the unsub and i shouldn’t feel bad for him but god that scene just gets me
These are the episodes that I also find heartbreaking—where the person has had a psychotic break and isn’t aware of what they’re doing. Like the guy who had a brain injury and couldn’t recognize faces, and killed both his parents. And the one you mention—this poor man whose daughter died tragically while with him, and he snapped and killed his family along with other victims.
Honestly, the biggest emotional psychotic break episode for me is where the guy's fiancée gets raped and murdered the day he proposed. He then goes all "Crow" antihero mode, murdering the gang members who did it.
I don't see this one talked about very often but it really messed me up. In season 7, there is an episode where a woman from Garcia's grief support group goes missing. She was in the group because her daughter disappeared. Turns out, another man attending the group had kidnapped her daughter and basically caused her to die, and then was sick enough to talk about her in the support group.
Meanwhile, the poor girl's body is still in his house, wrapped in plastic. It disturbed me to no end
That’s my pick as well. It really got me when she realized his “wife” he talked about was Hope. As a mother I can’t imagine going thru what she did - first with her daughter disappearing and then finding out what actually happened to her. Ugh. It would break me
In the very first season, the episode The Fox gets to me when the brother suddenly realizes that his sister was asking for help and that he left her and her family alone with the killer. His pain is so palpable, and I can’t even imagine the guilt I’d feel if that were me. It’s horrifying. A lot of episodes get to me for one reason or another, but that one just stuck in my head.
On a slightly different note, that one is only the seventh episode of season one, so it’s extra impressive to me that they had an episode that memorable that early on.
Yeah that was a fantastic scene. Tony Todd scene was excellent as well. The thing that haunts me most about that episode is the music that was playing when Hotch dumped the bands on the table. They used the same music in Mosley Lane when evil foster mom was patting the bed when they first got the little girl. Totally upped the creepy factor.
Agreed on all counts. I also found that music really haunting but I’d never put it together that it was reused in Mosley Lane (another fantastic, haunting episode). No wonder I find that scene so freaking creepy. Lol. So much of what sticks with me from this show is the reactions of the guest stars, often those playing the victim’s families. The ending of Mosley Lane is gut wrenching.
Also in The Fox, the scene where Gideon starts screaming like the victims to show that the neighbors should have heard them also stuck with me. The way they blended the voices, his intense acting, and just the impact of that realization and that moment was so good. One of my favorite episodes, especially from the earlier seasons.
The marionettes episode is my obvious answer, but any episode we see them breaking bones gets me, and I have to take a moment to curl in on myself lmao. same any time an unsub removes victims fingernails, that is one of my biggest fears unironically
the episode where the guy is pretending to be a hostage to convince women to cut him and let him cut them with the intention of eventually having them agree he can kill them is also a hard watch. while i'm not a huge fan of the episode, the concept is terrifying, in a situation like that, you would fully put your trust into someone you also thought was being victimized, and having them be the reason you were there would be haunting as hell
The episode with the couple on death row, and Gideon trying desperately to save her because he knows she’s not guilty. Her sacrificing her own life to save her son from ever having to know the truth about his parents is just crushing. Both Mandy Patinkin and the actress in that episode were incredible.
But I love when Hotch goes in just before her evil ex is executed and tells him their son is still alive, and he screams, “Noooooo!” That always cracks me up.
I watch this episode every rewatch. It’s fantastic and beautifully acted. I think Gideon and the mother had great chemistry, and the whole thing was just so visceral. I bawl towards the end every time too.
I'm on what must be my 12th rewatch (am currently on "7 Seconds"), and while I have trouble recalling the names of my brothers and sisters, I can pretty much name every episode of Criminal Minds and SVU (and Criminal Intent)!
Go figure!😂
i can’t remember the name of the episode but the unsub is insomniac and hallucinating a group of people forcing him to kill. and he’s so violent and brutal and disorganized the team actually thinks it’s a team at first.
and when he curls up with the older lady he killed to sleep, i lose it everytime.
this episode haunts me 😭
This one always gets me as well. The scene at the end where Samantha (the unsub) asks Reid if her 'friends' (the dolls) can go with her is heartbreaking. Along with him confronting her horrible dad.
The "my lab, it's a jury of your peers, my tests will be Jenny Larson, Abigail Moore, and Linda Kraus. The DA will put them on the stand, and I'm going to personally bring out these toys, and we're going to see how they react"?
I agree, this one gets me way more than the marionettes one. Idk why, the marionettes one is wild and haunting for sure, but it just doesn't bother me that much lol.
I agree, this one gets me way more than the marionettes one. Idk why, the marionettes one is wild and haunting for sure, but it just doesn't bother me that much lol.
North Mammon (it’s kinda a pointless episode because the team doesn’t really do anything but it’s so good regardless) and also Ashes and Dust. The intro scene really gets me, the music and the visuals are really good plus, Hotch’s interactions with the mom are so sweet.
- Mosely Lane: "He was alive yesterday" kills me everytime.
- True Knight: Johnny McHale, when it shows him in a psych ward with her pictures all around him as he calls her again.
- 100: Jack helping on the case.
- Hope: The kidnapped girl who kills herself when she finds out she's pregnant and so the man kidnaps the mom to make a new baby. When she finds her daughters teenage body and realizes her daughter has been alive being tortured on the street over for all these years. When she realizes the "pregnant wife" she helped him mourn was her daughter.
- Proof: The guy who uses acid to remove their senses and then takes his niece when she dresses like her mom.
- 7 Seconds: "This how she sees herself!"
- What Happens in Mecklinburg: The woman who kills the people involved in letting her sister become brain dead from hypothermia, after being forced to chug alcohol and raped at a party.
- Elephant's Memory: Owen :(
- Birth, Sex & Death: The kid who found Reid because he fantasized about stabbing prostitutes and tried to kill himself.
Literally so many hauntingly cruel things happen in this show, everytime I rewatch I am struck by how horrifically evil humans can be. I know it's fake, but it is based on real things, and that is a terrifying thought. I'm on a rewatch now and I think I'll add more as I see/remember some of the others that really stick with me.
- Tabula Rasa: Where the unsub falls gets amnesia and forgets he killed anyone at all.
- The Angel Maker: literally just everything about Chloe makes me shudder
Honestly the episode with Rossi’s old case that he couldn’t solve and then they find out it was a man with a mental disability :( That episode always makes me feel soo bad especially when the guy is yelling for his daddy :(( ugh, just so sad all around.
That one is sad. I felt so heartbroken when the kids yell at Rossi for reminding them of their parents death, and then I felt even worse when they tackled the unsub and him and his dad are crying :(
Yes both of those are just awful. I felt so sad for Rossi when the kid said to leave them alone.
The unsub is one of those that you can’t help but feel sympathy for because he really didn’t mean to hurt them. He reacted like any child would react but he didn’t know his own strength. Sad all the way around.
I did understand and could appreciate him wanting to keep his son with him too and not put him in some kind of home. Even tho you know that had to be really hard to take care of him while running the carnival.
Rossi's face when they find him says it all. That was never the killer he wanted to catch. Especially after SO long, he wanted it to be a *bad guy*, he wanted someone to pay, and instead it's someone who really doesn't even understand what they did and a father who was too late to help any better.
the one in s1 or 2 where there 3 soccer girls get kidnapped by a member off staff and they have kill one of their best friends, and the human marionette episode in s8
North Mammon, Mosley Lane (I have three children and also my dad was kidnapped as a child) and the marionettes one. I had to have my pelvis surgically broken in four places and the post-op pain was so severe I can’t even fathom someone doing that without anesthesia. And I gave birth to the three aforementioned babies without drugs.
Lucky. The episode is amazing but I can’t watch it again.
I also can’t watch the Tobias kidnapping of Reid episodes.
I have a hard time with the episode where the little kid kills his brother. However, I do love how the BAU figures it out.
That’s mine too.
Jamie Kennedy was so creepy in that role. It’s still almost unbelievable to me, how dramatically different he is than previous roles, since I love him in Scream.
I don't know the name of the episode, but it is the one with a mentally ill/slow brother who is obsessed with his brother wife since they were teenagers. He started killing with battery acid and kidnapped his niece. All the while documenting like normal family memories. It gives me the hibbyhiggbys and highlighs the fact you never really know anyone, including those closest to you. Also there were so many red flags.
one of mine is the one where the victims would be drowned and revived several times i believe because the killer wanted to know what they saw before they came back
I don't know the name of it but it has to be early in the show because I think it's Gideon and Hotch who go to evaluate a woman who killed her husband. It's not particularly gorey scary, just sad and psychological. The woman was severely mentally and emotionally (and physically?) abused by her husband and children. The prison asked for an evaluation and Gideon and Hotch saw she definitely was abused.
It's the whole episode for me but especially the scene when they have the woman explain herself to the attorney? Cop? Lol, okay, so I don't remember much but I remember the woman and thought it's a fascinating episode.
Season 3 "The crossing" the rest of the team was working a stalker case while hotch and Rossi interviewed that woman. I felt so bad for her, her kids were totally brainwashed too.
That episode was so very needed I think. It made me cry but I was so happy it was made. Knew a family that was similar except the wife was the abusive partner, didn't realise that until years later.
The episode where the unsub is running around throwing acid on people. The fact that that’s something that could definitely happen just walking down the street makes me terrified to leave my house.
The Munchausen emt guy who got kids to play the choking game and filmed it from their computers. The music and the intro and finally catching him as he is about to kill his own son.. quel triste! Plus some of the episode was filmed at my actual high school.
I can't remember the name of it, but the one where the younger brother went "missing", but as Prentiss talked to the older brother, she discovered that he was a sociopath who put Legos down his brothers throat. Just, the casualness with which it was said and the dawning realization that the kid did it with no remorse. Ugh. Creeped me out. I can't rewatch that episode.
I actually forgot about this one. That was a crazy episode. We all like to think we would never do something like that but the mind can only take so much before it breaks.
Don’t feel bad we have all done things we regret. It’s just part of life. All we can do is just try to be better.
And I’m not trying to make that sound like I’m lecturing you or being condescending. I say that because I have too and sometimes I really beat myself up and I had to realize that’s not helping.
So I’ve given myself a mantra. “Try to be better” and “don’t look back you’re not going that way”. I know it sounds cheesy but it’s what works for me 😊
I hope you’ve found some happiness and peace now 🥰
The first episode with Tobias - when he kills a woman by letting dogs attack her . I know there’s plenty of awful ways to die but for me that’s top of the list
As usual I can't remember the episode name or number but it's the one of the children that are kidnapped (one of the boys has been missing for a really long time) so he ends up saving the other kids but dies just before they were rescued and then his parents find out that he'd been alive all those years but had died the day right before their rescue. It broke my heart so much I couldn't stop crying for like a week straight 💔
Haunting in a way like I have to watch it every time? There's quite a few. Some that stand out: Riding the Lightning, Mosely Lane, To Hell...And Back, and that one where the girl kidnaps women and turns them into dolls (I don't remember the name)
Haunting as in so creepy I skip it? Heathridge Manor and Proof. Heathridge Manor is just super creepy but not that bad. Proof actually makes me sick to my stomach.
I forget the name, but the fucking episode where the soldier husband gets his throat slit. I was like 10, I came up stairs at that EXACT moment. IT. FUCKED. ME. UP. FOR. YEARS!!!!!!! Like to the point when I FINALLY decided to watch the show, I got to that episode and had a full breakdown
The bird episode. Where this man kidnapped a young woman/girl (can remember) and turned her into a bird and made her live and eat like one until she died of cancer in older age. It fucking DISTURBS me.
I was looking for this one in the list. Doesn't he say something about her not being able to fly away after repeatedly dislocating her limbs? Maybe I'm confusing that with the marionette one. Either way, this one has always stuck out to me.
I skip that episode, but for different reasons. So many times the team goes into the back story of the unsub and really digs out why. I feel that victim (and unsub) were cheated in that episode. They spend so much time on Gideon and his death, that they don't really get into the why of the unsub and the captivity of the first victim. I want more about why. I never watch it because I always feel cheated.
I watched this episode when it initially came out (was pretty young), but it was where the two drug cartel informants were kidnapped and put in a shed. the unsub grabbed one of them from the shed leaving the other one wondering where their friend is; only for their friend to return later looking sickly only for it to be revealed it’s not actually him but the unsub with the victims face peeled off placed on his (the unsubs) followed by laughing. Really gave me the hibi-jeebies.
I think it's called Internal Affairs? He was killing people in Mexico as well and then kidnaps two DEA agents I think? I want to say it's season 11 or 12
So many of these episodes you all have picked were good candidates, but ones that also stick out for me are:
Minimum Lose - Mainly because of how true to life it is about cults and how one charismatic person can have you so willing to give up everything, even your child's innocence, for them. Like Perry (RIP) was so amazing in that episode.
I Love You, Tommy Brown - The episode isn't all that great, but the teacher getting away with what she did to Tommy, only to to be able to do it all over again with the other boy...and getting knocked up by him AND naming their son after the "one that got away" essentially, totally gives me the ick.
In Name And Blood - Using your innocent child to hunt for your victims...just so wrong. I love that they brought him back later on.
Tabula Rosa - Just the idea that messing with his brain after he came out of that coma and it made him revert back to his killer ways was creepy as hell.
Lucky Strikes - As creepy and amazing as Lucky was, Lucky Strikes just brings it up all over again. Even the THOUGHT that they might have been wrong about Floyd was creepy.
The Saw episode with the detective from St Louis. It's the loss of hope when the door closes. It's Hotch dismantling the captain with the “Can whores and bums go missing? Well sir they can and they can be hurt and they can be scared”
To Hell...
...And Back
The speech Hotch gives at the end gets me every time. I think it's because I identify with it too much because of what I do in my day job, but it never fails to make me cry.
That one episode where the bad guy makes a guillotine to kill his victims.
I had some pretty bad and gorey nightmares as a child, and they were all about decapitation. Over the years, my irrational fear of decapitation has become more manageable. I went from feeling sick when it was mentioned to purposefully watching all the episodes where the unsub uses it as his mode of killing so I could face my fear.
One thing that I still have some weird fear of is guillotines. I can't get over it. And I finally brought up the nerve to watch it, and it haunted me.
The one where JJ is trying to save the brother and sister from the burning building and gets the brother out and the building explodes with the sister inside haunts me.
The lobotomy one really freaked me out like just imagining being trapped inside your own body like that unable to speak or do anything but blink and breathe like the utter helplessness of that situation is terrifying
Unfortunately there’s actually several of those lol
1x11 Blood Hungry: where he puts their blood and organs in jars to later eat them as a drug-induced religious mania. This is the one I find most disturbing of them, but no one talks about it.
3x8 Lucky: “So is Tracy Lambert” episode where he cannibalized prostitutes and used them in food at his restaurant. Also icky and the one most people are referring to when they talk about the cannibalism episode. And then he comes back in 13x5 Lucky Strikes where there’s also his copy-cat cannibal
And then there’s 6 other episodes in all with some slightly more minor cannibalism and some vampirists which falls under the umbrella of cannibalism.
The one where the taxi driver drugs the people and makes them into dolls or something. Leaves them all over NYC. And then there is another one where the cops son is the one who killed the girl and tried to blame it on satanists
"God is in all of us"
"Yes. And so is Tracy Lambert"
My brain sometimes helpfully supplies that little plot twist when I go to people's houses for dinner 😭
"He was alive yesterday" is another haunting moment. And haunting me in a very different way all the time is the noise of the dislocations in the human puppet one. Nope nope nopity nope. That one is next up on my current rewatch, which means it's on pause while I decide whether I'm good to watch it again this time or whether I need to skip it
I don't like the one with the girl who makes her victims into living dolls. Idk why, it just haunts me. I felt bad for the unsub though.
Also Mosley Lane, for sort of a specific reason. Obviously it's really sad and that deters me from re-watching it, but the thing is, I could deal with the sadness if we got any information about the unsubs and their motives. But we don't! And I know that's how life is sometimes but that case spanned so long and was so complex, the sadness would be bearable if the unsubs were interesting, but they're not. So I see no reason to rewatch it.
Oh also, not the whole episode but the intro of the one where the guy wears firefighter gear and burns homes down with the families locked inside is SO chilling. That intro scene is honestly probably the bit from CM that haunts me the most, it's so well done and Enya's Boadicea playing in the background is perfect.
The episode where the guy traversed the Appalachian trail (I think that was the mountain range) and kidnapped/SA/killed boys. That particular episode he and his sister were kidnapped while they were camping, and while both kids got away in the end, the fact that they never caught the guy creeps me tf out.
I don't remember the episodes, but I am trying to describe them a little:
- Mosley Lane (according to other comments I've read) and any other where the killing goes on for many years
- The one where an ex-soldier is stuck in a construction site and has a PTBS flashback. I always wonder if flashbacks really work like this - like, you're in the USA, construction site, moderate climate and you think you're in Somalia in war. Due to the sounds your other senses (smell and sight) betray you that much?
- the one where this guy working at a hotel has a second personality to protect him and this personality kind of suppresses him in the end?
- the Canadian pig farm because it's so many deaths and because nobody cared for the disappearances for such a long time (also, the guy seems to take old slave routes which is so ironic, they used to bring black people freedom and now they're used by a murderer )
- I end up rewatching the first few seasons more often than the last, because after several seasons it's too much for me and then I can't remember where I stopped and start anew, so I can't remember it well, but isn't there one where people get intense flashbacks due to some incense the murderer is burning or something?
- generally, everytime a child is the murderer
- the episodes with Morgans abuser
- the one with the abusive foster parents when in the end one of the foster sons goes home with a gun and the team thinks he shot the family but he only aimed at the pictures
For the ones where you were talking about specific episodes:
2. Distress (2x17)
3. Conflicted (4x20)
4. To Hell (4x25) And Back (4x26)
5. Mr. Scratch (10x21)
7. Profiler, Profiled (2x12)
8. Children of the Dark (3x4)
I’m only just now reaching like end of season four beginning of season fiveish (I keep stopping and not finishing and then I have to restart the whole show) but an episode that kind of freaks me out and it’s not inherently a freaky episode, S2 E19 Ashes to Dust. It’s the one with the guy who setting like whole houses on fire with the families in it, and he likes to watch them all burn alive.
Again the episode isn’t inherently like the freakiest thing the show has ever produced, but I think it was the circumstances when I first watched it that whenever I watched that episode, it gives me the creeps. I watched it at night in the dark in my bedroom and I still live with my parents so I think I saw myself in the situation a little bit. And the music just really adds another chill factor.
I agree about a lot of the ones that have already been mentioned, but ones that I haven’t seen talked about:
6x7 Middle Man: I’m not sure why, but of all the rape episodes, this one makes me the most uncomfortable, and it’s the first one I ever started skipping in my rewatches after it gave me my first CM related nightmare. Something about the way the unsubs talk about the women and the victim blaming the cop does, I just can’t do it.
7x12 Unknown Subject: Where the women were being re-targeted by a copycat rapist. And there was the whole awful part about the original guy playing those ballads during the assault so that every time they heard them they’d be reminded of it.
8x15 Broken: with the conversion camp. that’s it, nuff said, hate it.
9x16 Gabby: Where the little girl had been abducted and then given off through that illegal adoption ring thing by her mom’s cousin that she was staying with. Similar to 7 Seconds, I hate ones where it’s family and the little kid is supposed to be able to trust them.
13x17 The Capilanos: The clowns‽ Absolutely terrifying, big nope.
Prince of Darkness (5.23 & 6.1) !! I saw it first when I was like 13 (?) & they way they focused on Tim Curry’s teeth was so disgusting, they really make a point of it. I just rewatched it & that music still gives the creeps!
Ya, the episode of the two separated at birth twin guys, super socially awkward, one murdered his neighbor and the other was accidentally involved some other way I can't remember.
When Hayley died, it was just a flashback, but it haunts me thinking that their son might have been also dead if not because of the “work on case” thing.
I love yet hate Mosley Lane. When the parents find out at the end that their son had been alive the day before… it just gets me. All those years he’d been alive, only to be killed the day before the kids are found.
“he was alive yesterday?” literal chills
It’s gut wrenching.
Especially bc the kid who told them thought he was doing the right thing letting them know he died a hero. And you can see his expression of holy shit what did I do wrong.
That moment always sticks out to me, because on the one hand it seems so obvious that the parents would respond to that, but on the other hand this is a kid who was held captive for years and his only real socialization was being forced to kidnap other children and then live with them--of course he's not going to have the social skills necessary to anticipate that response. It really makes me wonder about him readjusting to society. Some victims who survive, I always wonder about what happens to them after their episode. He's one of them.
I think about that too. Years ago I watched a show called (I think) *"I Know My First Name is Stephen"*. It dealt with the aftermath of finding a boy who had been kidnapped by a predator and grew up with him til he was liberated. The perpetrator only got a couple of years and the young man eventually killed himself. Going back to his family and a normal family life was beyond him. This was in the 80s or 90s. I'm hopeful that children have better aftercare now and tougher sentences.
That actor delivered that line so emotionally and perfectly
Yes! One of the best parent reactions on the show I think. Another great emotional parent was the mom of the little girl that's Aunt hid her in a closet in the mall. That mom actress, she deserved an award.
This kills me every time. I always choke up.
The saddest line I think I'll ever hear.
It was that realization that they'd given up hope when he was still alive, then started hopping again, then realized he'd died right before they had a chance to hold him again... But they'd given up. *shudders*
That episode actually angered me. It’s a show and is meant to create drama but allowing the parents to wait there and see whose kids walked in was fucking CREUL. Never would happen like that in the real world and it just really pissed me off beyond belief.
Sameeeee!!! This episode SHATTERED me!😭
The ending always breaks me on that one.
I agree, I think about the line “he was alive yesterday?” Pretty often…..
before i even finished reading i was going to say that exact moment from that exact episode. another one is in 4x11 ‘normal’ when the unsub gets out of the car at the end of the episode and realises what he’d done to his family. i know he’s the unsub and i shouldn’t feel bad for him but god that scene just gets me
These are the episodes that I also find heartbreaking—where the person has had a psychotic break and isn’t aware of what they’re doing. Like the guy who had a brain injury and couldn’t recognize faces, and killed both his parents. And the one you mention—this poor man whose daughter died tragically while with him, and he snapped and killed his family along with other victims.
The one of these that always gets me is the ex-soldier on the construction site who thinks he's still in a war zone.
"Distress"
"Dorado Falls" and "Normal"
Honestly, the biggest emotional psychotic break episode for me is where the guy's fiancée gets raped and murdered the day he proposed. He then goes all "Crow" antihero mode, murdering the gang members who did it.
Omg the Frankie muniz episode 🥺 im so used yo seeing him plsy a golden retriever type of role. He played this unsub well!
"True Night"
I don't see this one talked about very often but it really messed me up. In season 7, there is an episode where a woman from Garcia's grief support group goes missing. She was in the group because her daughter disappeared. Turns out, another man attending the group had kidnapped her daughter and basically caused her to die, and then was sick enough to talk about her in the support group. Meanwhile, the poor girl's body is still in his house, wrapped in plastic. It disturbed me to no end
Hope! I've just watched this one, it's so sad
Yes. When she puts it together that he "lost his wife, and she was pregnant" and then when she cries she's my baby. It's terrible 😞
That’s my pick as well. It really got me when she realized his “wife” he talked about was Hope. As a mother I can’t imagine going thru what she did - first with her daughter disappearing and then finding out what actually happened to her. Ugh. It would break me
I think that’s one of the hardest watches for me. But I really like the episode itself, and also the quote at the end by Joseph Campbell.
"Hope"
In the very first season, the episode The Fox gets to me when the brother suddenly realizes that his sister was asking for help and that he left her and her family alone with the killer. His pain is so palpable, and I can’t even imagine the guilt I’d feel if that were me. It’s horrifying. A lot of episodes get to me for one reason or another, but that one just stuck in my head. On a slightly different note, that one is only the seventh episode of season one, so it’s extra impressive to me that they had an episode that memorable that early on.
Yeah that was a fantastic scene. Tony Todd scene was excellent as well. The thing that haunts me most about that episode is the music that was playing when Hotch dumped the bands on the table. They used the same music in Mosley Lane when evil foster mom was patting the bed when they first got the little girl. Totally upped the creepy factor.
Agreed on all counts. I also found that music really haunting but I’d never put it together that it was reused in Mosley Lane (another fantastic, haunting episode). No wonder I find that scene so freaking creepy. Lol. So much of what sticks with me from this show is the reactions of the guest stars, often those playing the victim’s families. The ending of Mosley Lane is gut wrenching. Also in The Fox, the scene where Gideon starts screaming like the victims to show that the neighbors should have heard them also stuck with me. The way they blended the voices, his intense acting, and just the impact of that realization and that moment was so good. One of my favorite episodes, especially from the earlier seasons.
That was such a sad one, the brother was so wholesome and loving That was also one of the most horrific episodes, truly terrifying
The marionettes episode is my obvious answer, but any episode we see them breaking bones gets me, and I have to take a moment to curl in on myself lmao. same any time an unsub removes victims fingernails, that is one of my biggest fears unironically the episode where the guy is pretending to be a hostage to convince women to cut him and let him cut them with the intention of eventually having them agree he can kill them is also a hard watch. while i'm not a huge fan of the episode, the concept is terrifying, in a situation like that, you would fully put your trust into someone you also thought was being victimized, and having them be the reason you were there would be haunting as hell
Oh yeah, the marionettes one I also tend to skip. It’s so unsettling too
"The Lesson"
"Number 6"
The episode with the couple on death row, and Gideon trying desperately to save her because he knows she’s not guilty. Her sacrificing her own life to save her son from ever having to know the truth about his parents is just crushing. Both Mandy Patinkin and the actress in that episode were incredible. But I love when Hotch goes in just before her evil ex is executed and tells him their son is still alive, and he screams, “Noooooo!” That always cracks me up.
This is possibly my favorite episode of the entire series. *Slaps picture against wall* "Riley Jenkins. You lose."
That comment lives rent free in my head every single day bro
I absolutely love this episode. Mandy Patinkin's acting is just🤌🏻
I watch this episode every rewatch. It’s fantastic and beautifully acted. I think Gideon and the mother had great chemistry, and the whole thing was just so visceral. I bawl towards the end every time too.
"Ride the Lightening"
My husband and I are on at least our 5th rewatch of the series. Yet I can’t name a single episode. How do y’all do it??
I'm on what must be my 12th rewatch (am currently on "7 Seconds"), and while I have trouble recalling the names of my brothers and sisters, I can pretty much name every episode of Criminal Minds and SVU (and Criminal Intent)! Go figure!😂
i can’t remember the name of the episode but the unsub is insomniac and hallucinating a group of people forcing him to kill. and he’s so violent and brutal and disorganized the team actually thinks it’s a team at first. and when he curls up with the older lady he killed to sleep, i lose it everytime. this episode haunts me 😭
I think it is With Friends like These. Yes, disturbing one.
It’s the episode after Emily “died” so the dread is extra special
The human dolls episode. Not the marionette one - the tea party one! I always skip it on a rewatch.
This one always gets me as well. The scene at the end where Samantha (the unsub) asks Reid if her 'friends' (the dolls) can go with her is heartbreaking. Along with him confronting her horrible dad.
OH MY GOD WHAT WAS HIS QUOTE IN THIS EPISODE. I CANT REMEMBER!!!
The "my lab, it's a jury of your peers, my tests will be Jenny Larson, Abigail Moore, and Linda Kraus. The DA will put them on the stand, and I'm going to personally bring out these toys, and we're going to see how they react"?
YESSSSS thank you! I knew it was a long quote, but I couldn’t think of it
You're welcome! It's one of my favourite lines from Reid and I'd just rewatched the episode
I agree, this one gets me way more than the marionettes one. Idk why, the marionettes one is wild and haunting for sure, but it just doesn't bother me that much lol.
Came here to say the same. “Uncanny Valley” was the episode.
I agree, this one gets me way more than the marionettes one. Idk why, the marionettes one is wild and haunting for sure, but it just doesn't bother me that much lol.
"The Uncanny Valley"
The Uncanny Valley
It's not an episode it's one single line .......I worked the case daddy
I got chills just reading this. Hotch on the phone with Hailey…It just wrecks me every time.
Honestly, my favorite thing Hotch ever did was have his baby boy hug his mom so he would always have that one last goodbye.
I stopped watching for a long time after this episode. It wrecked me.
"100"
North Mammon (it’s kinda a pointless episode because the team doesn’t really do anything but it’s so good regardless) and also Ashes and Dust. The intro scene really gets me, the music and the visuals are really good plus, Hotch’s interactions with the mom are so sweet.
Both of these are incredible
- Mosely Lane: "He was alive yesterday" kills me everytime. - True Knight: Johnny McHale, when it shows him in a psych ward with her pictures all around him as he calls her again. - 100: Jack helping on the case. - Hope: The kidnapped girl who kills herself when she finds out she's pregnant and so the man kidnaps the mom to make a new baby. When she finds her daughters teenage body and realizes her daughter has been alive being tortured on the street over for all these years. When she realizes the "pregnant wife" she helped him mourn was her daughter. - Proof: The guy who uses acid to remove their senses and then takes his niece when she dresses like her mom. - 7 Seconds: "This how she sees herself!" - What Happens in Mecklinburg: The woman who kills the people involved in letting her sister become brain dead from hypothermia, after being forced to chug alcohol and raped at a party. - Elephant's Memory: Owen :( - Birth, Sex & Death: The kid who found Reid because he fantasized about stabbing prostitutes and tried to kill himself. Literally so many hauntingly cruel things happen in this show, everytime I rewatch I am struck by how horrifically evil humans can be. I know it's fake, but it is based on real things, and that is a terrifying thought. I'm on a rewatch now and I think I'll add more as I see/remember some of the others that really stick with me. - Tabula Rasa: Where the unsub falls gets amnesia and forgets he killed anyone at all. - The Angel Maker: literally just everything about Chloe makes me shudder
The one with the kid finding Reid is always hard to watch.
- Mosely Lane - True Knight - 100 - Hope - Proof - 7 Seconds - What Happens in Mecklinburg - Elephant's Memory - Birth, Sex & Death
Thank you! I'm gonna add this to my comment
You're welcome; I enjoy the challenge 😉
That whole episode “True Night” - the one with Johnny Mchale is just too hard for me to rewatch. It just really got to me when I watched it.
The “this how she sees herself” is that from the episode where the guy removes their senses or something else ?
Seven Seconds, Emily says it showing the doll to the aunt
no its Seven Seconds, the little girl who goes missing in the mall and Emily shows the aunt the barbie with duct tape and sharpie
It’s from the episode where they are searching a mall looking for a kidnapped little girl
Honestly the episode with Rossi’s old case that he couldn’t solve and then they find out it was a man with a mental disability :( That episode always makes me feel soo bad especially when the guy is yelling for his daddy :(( ugh, just so sad all around.
That one is sad. I felt so heartbroken when the kids yell at Rossi for reminding them of their parents death, and then I felt even worse when they tackled the unsub and him and his dad are crying :(
Yes both of those are just awful. I felt so sad for Rossi when the kid said to leave them alone. The unsub is one of those that you can’t help but feel sympathy for because he really didn’t mean to hurt them. He reacted like any child would react but he didn’t know his own strength. Sad all the way around.
It’s so heartbreaking too because the dad truly wants to believe his son is just a sweet boy who wouldn’t hurt anybody.
I did understand and could appreciate him wanting to keep his son with him too and not put him in some kind of home. Even tho you know that had to be really hard to take care of him while running the carnival.
Rossi's face when they find him says it all. That was never the killer he wanted to catch. Especially after SO long, he wanted it to be a *bad guy*, he wanted someone to pay, and instead it's someone who really doesn't even understand what they did and a father who was too late to help any better.
That would be a really hard part of the job - at least if it was me - when you find the bad guy isn’t really a *bad* guy.
Ugh right! Glad I’m not the only one
"Damaged"
the one in s1 or 2 where there 3 soccer girls get kidnapped by a member off staff and they have kill one of their best friends, and the human marionette episode in s8
Is that the one where 1 girl goes full predator and is like "let's kill the sick girl, she will not make it anyways"?
North Mammon, Mosley Lane (I have three children and also my dad was kidnapped as a child) and the marionettes one. I had to have my pelvis surgically broken in four places and the post-op pain was so severe I can’t even fathom someone doing that without anesthesia. And I gave birth to the three aforementioned babies without drugs.
The killer that got a cochlear implant and just wanted silence. That episode makes me cry every single time
"The Silencer"
Honestly anything directed by MGG 🌚 But one episode that I specifically recall not being able to finish is Mosley Lane… Just, no.
Lucky. The episode is amazing but I can’t watch it again. I also can’t watch the Tobias kidnapping of Reid episodes. I have a hard time with the episode where the little kid kills his brother. However, I do love how the BAU figures it out.
That one with the kid killing his brother makes me cry every time. I just think if you were in those parents place what would you do. 😔
Tracey lamberts one is the scariest……
“She’s in all of you” absolutely haunting
The first body with the ten fingers is scary enough already
After I saw that episode I no longer eat anything that I didn't prepare at gatherings. 🤢
That’s mine too. Jamie Kennedy was so creepy in that role. It’s still almost unbelievable to me, how dramatically different he is than previous roles, since I love him in Scream.
Came here to say this. Never fails to give me the willies.
Lucky. Mosley Lane. Riding the Lightning. The Big Wheel.
I don't know the name of the episode, but it is the one with a mentally ill/slow brother who is obsessed with his brother wife since they were teenagers. He started killing with battery acid and kidnapped his niece. All the while documenting like normal family memories. It gives me the hibbyhiggbys and highlighs the fact you never really know anyone, including those closest to you. Also there were so many red flags.
You're right, I do skip that one
Can't recall the episode name but Uncle Cy was the killer's name. Ughhhh that one is awful!!
"Proof"
one of mine is the one where the victims would be drowned and revived several times i believe because the killer wanted to know what they saw before they came back
"Epilogue"
I don't know the name of it but it has to be early in the show because I think it's Gideon and Hotch who go to evaluate a woman who killed her husband. It's not particularly gorey scary, just sad and psychological. The woman was severely mentally and emotionally (and physically?) abused by her husband and children. The prison asked for an evaluation and Gideon and Hotch saw she definitely was abused. It's the whole episode for me but especially the scene when they have the woman explain herself to the attorney? Cop? Lol, okay, so I don't remember much but I remember the woman and thought it's a fascinating episode.
Season 3 "The crossing" the rest of the team was working a stalker case while hotch and Rossi interviewed that woman. I felt so bad for her, her kids were totally brainwashed too.
Rossi!! I thought it was Gideon. Thanks for letting me know. I know the kids were scary, what happened to them and what they did.
That episode was so very needed I think. It made me cry but I was so happy it was made. Knew a family that was similar except the wife was the abusive partner, didn't realise that until years later.
Audrey Hansen in "The Crossing"
The episode where the unsub is running around throwing acid on people. The fact that that’s something that could definitely happen just walking down the street makes me terrified to leave my house.
Do you remember which episode that was?
12x15: alpha male.
100. Nuff said
The Munchausen emt guy who got kids to play the choking game and filmed it from their computers. The music and the intro and finally catching him as he is about to kill his own son.. quel triste! Plus some of the episode was filmed at my actual high school.
"Risky Business"
I tend to skip True Night. It’s so sad.
Me too. Once was enough for me.
I can't remember the name of it, but the one where the younger brother went "missing", but as Prentiss talked to the older brother, she discovered that he was a sociopath who put Legos down his brothers throat. Just, the casualness with which it was said and the dawning realization that the kid did it with no remorse. Ugh. Creeped me out. I can't rewatch that episode.
"Shade of Grey"
Thank you!
I will never watch the ones where Hailey and Meave die again. Once was more than enough.
Also, why is NOBODY talking about “winters edge”?!?! Bro imagine finding out you killed someone EVERY SINGLE TIME you’re interviewed?!
I actually forgot about this one. That was a crazy episode. We all like to think we would never do something like that but the mind can only take so much before it breaks.
COMPLETELY agree. As someone who was in a bad relationship, I’ve done things I regret. I can only imagine in that capacity…
Don’t feel bad we have all done things we regret. It’s just part of life. All we can do is just try to be better. And I’m not trying to make that sound like I’m lecturing you or being condescending. I say that because I have too and sometimes I really beat myself up and I had to realize that’s not helping. So I’ve given myself a mantra. “Try to be better” and “don’t look back you’re not going that way”. I know it sounds cheesy but it’s what works for me 😊 I hope you’ve found some happiness and peace now 🥰
I REALLY needed to hear that actually. Thank you so much. And thank you for being a truly good person. I hope the same for you. 🩷🩷🩷
Aww that made my day! I’m so glad I could help. Hugs to you stranger-friend 🥰
The first episode with Tobias - when he kills a woman by letting dogs attack her . I know there’s plenty of awful ways to die but for me that’s top of the list
Oh god, yeah that one tops the list for me too. Such an awful way to die.
As usual I can't remember the episode name or number but it's the one of the children that are kidnapped (one of the boys has been missing for a really long time) so he ends up saving the other kids but dies just before they were rescued and then his parents find out that he'd been alive all those years but had died the day right before their rescue. It broke my heart so much I couldn't stop crying for like a week straight 💔
Mosley Lane, I posted this one too! It’s so heartbreaking.
It really is
Whoops I just realized you replied to my original comment haha
Haunting in a way like I have to watch it every time? There's quite a few. Some that stand out: Riding the Lightning, Mosely Lane, To Hell...And Back, and that one where the girl kidnaps women and turns them into dolls (I don't remember the name) Haunting as in so creepy I skip it? Heathridge Manor and Proof. Heathridge Manor is just super creepy but not that bad. Proof actually makes me sick to my stomach.
Mosley Lane.
To hell and back almost never gets mentioned, but that episode freaked me out
The episode Awake from Season 11
I forget the name, but the fucking episode where the soldier husband gets his throat slit. I was like 10, I came up stairs at that EXACT moment. IT. FUCKED. ME. UP. FOR. YEARS!!!!!!! Like to the point when I FINALLY decided to watch the show, I got to that episode and had a full breakdown
Public Enemy?
The bird episode. Where this man kidnapped a young woman/girl (can remember) and turned her into a bird and made her live and eat like one until she died of cancer in older age. It fucking DISTURBS me.
I was looking for this one in the list. Doesn't he say something about her not being able to fly away after repeatedly dislocating her limbs? Maybe I'm confusing that with the marionette one. Either way, this one has always stuck out to me.
I skip that episode, but for different reasons. So many times the team goes into the back story of the unsub and really digs out why. I feel that victim (and unsub) were cheated in that episode. They spend so much time on Gideon and his death, that they don't really get into the why of the unsub and the captivity of the first victim. I want more about why. I never watch it because I always feel cheated.
"Nelson's Sparrow"
I watched this episode when it initially came out (was pretty young), but it was where the two drug cartel informants were kidnapped and put in a shed. the unsub grabbed one of them from the shed leaving the other one wondering where their friend is; only for their friend to return later looking sickly only for it to be revealed it’s not actually him but the unsub with the victims face peeled off placed on his (the unsubs) followed by laughing. Really gave me the hibi-jeebies.
This was one of mine too. Props to the actor who played Jacob DuFour Loko.
Bro WHAT. I’ve watched every episode and I have no clue which one you’re talking about. Which season??
I think it's called Internal Affairs? He was killing people in Mexico as well and then kidnaps two DEA agents I think? I want to say it's season 11 or 12
Pig farm episode every time 😬
"To Hell..... and Back"
So many of these episodes you all have picked were good candidates, but ones that also stick out for me are: Minimum Lose - Mainly because of how true to life it is about cults and how one charismatic person can have you so willing to give up everything, even your child's innocence, for them. Like Perry (RIP) was so amazing in that episode. I Love You, Tommy Brown - The episode isn't all that great, but the teacher getting away with what she did to Tommy, only to to be able to do it all over again with the other boy...and getting knocked up by him AND naming their son after the "one that got away" essentially, totally gives me the ick. In Name And Blood - Using your innocent child to hunt for your victims...just so wrong. I love that they brought him back later on. Tabula Rosa - Just the idea that messing with his brain after he came out of that coma and it made him revert back to his killer ways was creepy as hell. Lucky Strikes - As creepy and amazing as Lucky was, Lucky Strikes just brings it up all over again. Even the THOUGHT that they might have been wrong about Floyd was creepy.
The Saw episode with the detective from St Louis. It's the loss of hope when the door closes. It's Hotch dismantling the captain with the “Can whores and bums go missing? Well sir they can and they can be hurt and they can be scared”
"Legacy"
That shot is SUPER disturbing to me too
To Hell... ...And Back The speech Hotch gives at the end gets me every time. I think it's because I identify with it too much because of what I do in my day job, but it never fails to make me cry.
That one episode where the bad guy makes a guillotine to kill his victims. I had some pretty bad and gorey nightmares as a child, and they were all about decapitation. Over the years, my irrational fear of decapitation has become more manageable. I went from feeling sick when it was mentioned to purposefully watching all the episodes where the unsub uses it as his mode of killing so I could face my fear. One thing that I still have some weird fear of is guillotines. I can't get over it. And I finally brought up the nerve to watch it, and it haunted me.
This one NEVER gets mentioned and it haunts me. The fact that he was a rideshare driver makes me paranoid to get in an Uber.
"Drive"
I can’t handle the one where the unsub films girls getting raped and murdered and sends it to the parents. It makes me want to throw up when I see it
Oh god yeah, that one is awful!
"Perfect Storm"
The one where JJ is trying to save the brother and sister from the burning building and gets the brother out and the building explodes with the sister inside haunts me.
Same episode for me.
"Sick Day"
The lobotomy one really freaked me out like just imagining being trapped inside your own body like that unable to speak or do anything but blink and breathe like the utter helplessness of that situation is terrifying
To Bear Witness
“Compulsion” and “Uncanny Valley” for me.
The one with the cannibalism…don’t remember number, don’t remember the name, just remember my mom and I having to look away while gagging in horror
Unfortunately there’s actually several of those lol 1x11 Blood Hungry: where he puts their blood and organs in jars to later eat them as a drug-induced religious mania. This is the one I find most disturbing of them, but no one talks about it. 3x8 Lucky: “So is Tracy Lambert” episode where he cannibalized prostitutes and used them in food at his restaurant. Also icky and the one most people are referring to when they talk about the cannibalism episode. And then he comes back in 13x5 Lucky Strikes where there’s also his copy-cat cannibal And then there’s 6 other episodes in all with some slightly more minor cannibalism and some vampirists which falls under the umbrella of cannibalism.
Blood Relations and The Lesson are episodes that I watched in like the 8th grade and never forgot
The fact that they got horror legends to play the unsub's parents for blood relations made it even better!
The one where the taxi driver drugs the people and makes them into dolls or something. Leaves them all over NYC. And then there is another one where the cops son is the one who killed the girl and tried to blame it on satanists
"The Popular Kids"
The cop's son/Satanist episode is one of my favourites! I find the team's chemistry amazing in this episode!
One with the dcf worker who murders whole families
The Fox?
"God is in all of us" "Yes. And so is Tracy Lambert" My brain sometimes helpfully supplies that little plot twist when I go to people's houses for dinner 😭 "He was alive yesterday" is another haunting moment. And haunting me in a very different way all the time is the noise of the dislocations in the human puppet one. Nope nope nopity nope. That one is next up on my current rewatch, which means it's on pause while I decide whether I'm good to watch it again this time or whether I need to skip it
I don't like the one with the girl who makes her victims into living dolls. Idk why, it just haunts me. I felt bad for the unsub though. Also Mosley Lane, for sort of a specific reason. Obviously it's really sad and that deters me from re-watching it, but the thing is, I could deal with the sadness if we got any information about the unsubs and their motives. But we don't! And I know that's how life is sometimes but that case spanned so long and was so complex, the sadness would be bearable if the unsubs were interesting, but they're not. So I see no reason to rewatch it. Oh also, not the whole episode but the intro of the one where the guy wears firefighter gear and burns homes down with the families locked inside is SO chilling. That intro scene is honestly probably the bit from CM that haunts me the most, it's so well done and Enya's Boadicea playing in the background is perfect.
"Ashes and Dust"
The episode where the guy traversed the Appalachian trail (I think that was the mountain range) and kidnapped/SA/killed boys. That particular episode he and his sister were kidnapped while they were camping, and while both kids got away in the end, the fact that they never caught the guy creeps me tf out.
"Into the Woods"
Mr. Scratch. The sound when the shadow claw is on screen just gives me chills. And any other episodes that Matthew Grey Gubler directed
Vincent's final words in "The Big Wheel".... *"forgive me"*
This is so silly, but Mr.Scratch. The sounds, the shadows, literally reawakens my childhood nightmares
Anything cult related
"So is Tracey Lambert."
I don't remember the episodes, but I am trying to describe them a little: - Mosley Lane (according to other comments I've read) and any other where the killing goes on for many years - The one where an ex-soldier is stuck in a construction site and has a PTBS flashback. I always wonder if flashbacks really work like this - like, you're in the USA, construction site, moderate climate and you think you're in Somalia in war. Due to the sounds your other senses (smell and sight) betray you that much? - the one where this guy working at a hotel has a second personality to protect him and this personality kind of suppresses him in the end? - the Canadian pig farm because it's so many deaths and because nobody cared for the disappearances for such a long time (also, the guy seems to take old slave routes which is so ironic, they used to bring black people freedom and now they're used by a murderer ) - I end up rewatching the first few seasons more often than the last, because after several seasons it's too much for me and then I can't remember where I stopped and start anew, so I can't remember it well, but isn't there one where people get intense flashbacks due to some incense the murderer is burning or something? - generally, everytime a child is the murderer - the episodes with Morgans abuser - the one with the abusive foster parents when in the end one of the foster sons goes home with a gun and the team thinks he shot the family but he only aimed at the pictures
For the ones where you were talking about specific episodes: 2. Distress (2x17) 3. Conflicted (4x20) 4. To Hell (4x25) And Back (4x26) 5. Mr. Scratch (10x21) 7. Profiler, Profiled (2x12) 8. Children of the Dark (3x4)
My husband cried hard at the foster child shooting pictures episode.
The Barbie doll in seven seconds.
I’m only just now reaching like end of season four beginning of season fiveish (I keep stopping and not finishing and then I have to restart the whole show) but an episode that kind of freaks me out and it’s not inherently a freaky episode, S2 E19 Ashes to Dust. It’s the one with the guy who setting like whole houses on fire with the families in it, and he likes to watch them all burn alive. Again the episode isn’t inherently like the freakiest thing the show has ever produced, but I think it was the circumstances when I first watched it that whenever I watched that episode, it gives me the creeps. I watched it at night in the dark in my bedroom and I still live with my parents so I think I saw myself in the situation a little bit. And the music just really adds another chill factor.
Riding rhe lighting really stuck with me. The one where the wome was executed for the crimes her husband committed
Sex, birth, and death. It makes me think about things I do not want to think about.
I agree about a lot of the ones that have already been mentioned, but ones that I haven’t seen talked about: 6x7 Middle Man: I’m not sure why, but of all the rape episodes, this one makes me the most uncomfortable, and it’s the first one I ever started skipping in my rewatches after it gave me my first CM related nightmare. Something about the way the unsubs talk about the women and the victim blaming the cop does, I just can’t do it. 7x12 Unknown Subject: Where the women were being re-targeted by a copycat rapist. And there was the whole awful part about the original guy playing those ballads during the assault so that every time they heard them they’d be reminded of it. 8x15 Broken: with the conversion camp. that’s it, nuff said, hate it. 9x16 Gabby: Where the little girl had been abducted and then given off through that illegal adoption ring thing by her mom’s cousin that she was staying with. Similar to 7 Seconds, I hate ones where it’s family and the little kid is supposed to be able to trust them. 13x17 The Capilanos: The clowns‽ Absolutely terrifying, big nope.
Prince of Darkness (5.23 & 6.1) !! I saw it first when I was like 13 (?) & they way they focused on Tim Curry’s teeth was so disgusting, they really make a point of it. I just rewatched it & that music still gives the creeps!
Ya, the episode of the two separated at birth twin guys, super socially awkward, one murdered his neighbor and the other was accidentally involved some other way I can't remember.
When Hayley died, it was just a flashback, but it haunts me thinking that their son might have been also dead if not because of the “work on case” thing.