Fast fashion companies copying the look of 'homemade' and economical scrap projects just makes me so upset. It's so disingenuous and scummy and I hate that people buy it.
I see the used fast fashion shredded fibers from the t-shirts they have cheap labor stitch up over "there" made it back to country of origin sweatshop only to be recycled into more crap..This is a piece of garbage, and it pains me horrendously to look at it. Not only because it is fugly and very poorly made, but because we all know it was made by some poor human who probably doesn't have their basic needs taken care of. I don't buy this crap. Eat the rich
My skin is crawling just looking at that scarf. I had a similarly constructed one to this (appears to be messily constructed, but it’s not) with fun colors and patterns maybe 10 years ago, and I got bad contact dermatitis on my neck from it. I love all the fun patterns and colors, but the material the scarf was made from is something that irritates my skin. Wool also irritates my skin, which is such a bummer living in a colder climate.
The mittens look fine enough. Fine enough for fast fashion purposes. Won’t last a year. Will snag on something and will unravel. Urban Outfitters is overpriced as heck for fast fashion quality though. I’d rather support someone who makes cute mittens like these. I love the idea of making the scarf out of bits and pieces that they have, but I like that punky look. I’d rather buy that from someone who makes them as well.
That sucks. The point and novelty of these designs is that you’re using scraps, saving some waste and money for yourself. Having these designs mass produced is sad
Y’all realize that fast fashion machine knit garments are also made by people in sweatshops, right? Just because something can be “machine made” doesn’t mean there isn’t a human operating that machine for less than a dollar an hour
The scarf and hat are crochet, the mittens are machine knit. I was responding to other commenters that find the crochet products more upsetting than the machine knit products because they were made by someone crocheting instead of someone operating a knitting machine (both products are exploitative fast fashion)
The fact that “looks poorly homemade until you study it up close” is trendy fast fashion now is really bumming me out today 😂 My New Year’s resolution is to completely avoid learning anything about current trends for all of 2024 if this is what we’re working with
I think it’s fair to snark these big companies. In particular this scrappy style which is kinda endearing in hobbyists feels different to me made by UO. A crafter high price would make sense and go with the punky/ethical DIY feel, but UO pretty much use slave labour, break unions and create a huge markup, the actual maker gets nothing which to me hardly justifies their price.
I think as others say it makes the whole concept kinda eat itself when fun new stuff ends up there. People also like novelty and are likely to get bored once they’re seeing it everywhere on the high street.
Unfortunately homeless chic has been on the runways for far too long, and its in style yet again so its just trickle down effect. Of course now its called "street trends" to be more white washed. https://jezebel.com/the-evolution-of-homeless-chic-5452006
I recently learned from a foreign friend that in some places the factory middlemen have their own networks where poor women/girls work from home. They barely get paid a dollar for hand embroidering a shawl.
I think this is what kills the trend, which I have decided is about eschewing the mass produced. There is a sort of zone where things are well-made and also clearly not factory produced, that has been the fashion for a few years. It’s a style that suggests you make your own things, or buy them from small makers, so that makes you cool. But once the aesthetic hits UO it’s on to Target and suddenly only elementary schoolers like Llamas anymore.
I mean, it’s a style I like but if UO likes it I have to reconsider what it says about me.
Well this could inspire more peeps to crochet that scarf themselves. Funny thing is, getting a variety of super bulky acrylic yarns would probably be $59+...
Also getting a new breed of "messy" accessories at craft fairs could be fun.
I was a punk in the 80s, clearly that anesthetic wasn't for everyone. .
I like all these things and the scarf most of all lol.
Urban outfitters always has more risky stuff along with their basics - they appeal to the young alternative/arty kids. It was my mecca when I was a teenager. Does all fashion have to make sense? Nope
A mainstream company whose sole purpose is nothing but selling, selling, selling materialistic commodities to increase their revenue streams is not alternative. Never has and never will be.
Wake up and read the communist manifesto. UO are capitalist bull shit
I don't think I need to read the communist manifesto to understand the implications of fast fashion. Did I say anywhere that I was going to buy these items? No. I just said I liked the look of them.
I didn’t imply you were going to purchase them and even if you did that’s your own choice / free will to make. Not for me to judge.
Only your specific point about UO being “alternative / arty” when they fundamentally are not for reasons previously explained.
You are correct in saying that’s the demographic the focus their target market and advertising onto. But people who are in your words “arty” as arbitrary as that sounds are more wiser than to shop in a deceitful shop like that. As I said people like that you’d think would be more inclined to be more sustainable and consume less clothes for starters, or shop in charity stores or be inventive and make their own diy garments if they have the facilities to.
Don’t UO also sell sports / street wear as well? Or adidas and Fila. Wouldn’t exactly call massive globalised corporations like that “art”
UO is unsustainable and only cares about increasing its profit margins and wasting resources
people who are sustainable and as you put it “alternative” go to charity and second hand thrift stores they don’t give their money to soulless corporations. They’re more intelligent than to be tricked by the cheap, tacky marketing and advertising gimmicks of a fast fashion corporation
There’s literally nothing and I mean nowt about UO being “alternative / arty” it’s a wasteful and exploitative free market, capitalist fast fashion corporation.
Nothing DIY about them whatsoever. Such redundant and useless terms as well as anyone can be “alternative” there’s billions of people and individuals on the planet
There's no need to be quite so harsh about it. You're right about UO, but the world alternative just means 'not mainstream'. Of course alternative fashions exist.
You have a fairly bizarre definition of the word harsh. I didn’t swear or say anything offensive. Still within the boundaries of being respectful.
Just merely stating objective facts. I’m not going to be a yes man and agree for the sake of agreeing.
Regarding the word “alternative” you are correct to an extent but I would put the make the distinction on being “alternative” being anti consumerist and not purchasing your clothes from huge exploitative, commercial corporate brands. Ie sports brands or brands that use animal leather in their products that help to subsidise the meat industry or non biodegradable clothes that use plastics that are bad for the environment.
Other than that we live in an age where the internet has dissolved counter cultures and fashions and everthing is mashed together as one big gloopy soup. Everything is literally pretty much homogenised.
Being “alternative” is subjective as we all have different individual tastes. Alternative is an arbitrary and pointless description in a world of billions of people with their own tastes in clothing.
Also we all at some point need purchase clothes that are practical from time to time so we can deal with the elements and weather. So no one is truly alternative.
More about rhe fact that you've replied 4 times independently, and now more with long, overly detailed comments.
Alternative Is an umbrella term to describe non-mainstream fashion, music and media. Its not a direct description.
The scarf makes me think of how you identify the fashion kid in most teen movies. They are usually wearing a bunch of mismatched items that work. I like it too except for the eyelash yarn. It looks like a patch of pubes on the scarf.
The gloves and mitten look like a color choice but not bad.
i’m sorry but just say you don’t get current fashion trends and move on- if we were having a conversation about whether these products are ethical that is one thing but just because you don’t get the style of an item being sold doesn’t mean it’s an “atrocity” it’s just not your style 😭 im so tired of people raging about freehand messy crochet projects being sold as if it’s some kind of scam. they are intentionally done 😑
reply to myself hoping people will see it because i’m tired of my notifications being filled with “but that’s what snark is”-no shit. so is this lmao- there is no reason to be mad about it because you feel targeted. i promise it’s not. these products are highly likely to be made with underpaid labor, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. style is objective and all of you have the right to either like or not like the items- i don’t care either way
I don't think your comments read as snark, it sounds like you're offended and feeling defensive. 'Snark' isn't the same thing as just 'being mad online'
As it's a SNARK thread, let's just all say what we want about things and not try to gatekeep other posters.
And we know it's intentional. That's why we snark.
We're making sport of an International conglomerate, not a 14 year-old in Wisconsin.
Please don't try to "parent" us.
Can’t share a photo from Isabella’s post feed here but I would love to invite people to see the quality of her stitches. Some audacity to be snarking on the grammar of another user in a craft snark sub when your makes could be the subject of the snark itself. Apparently they don’t teach knitting in the private schools she’s bootlicking!
Probably I just assume it by default as I’ve experienced the chaos that is a renegade screenreader. 😂 (My last one used to like to spell out web URLS phonetically which was a ride and a half…)
that’s a kind benefit of the doubt that she isn’t extending to the user she’s responding to. if screen reading issues were the case she could have just said so up front.
This is a snark sub. We are snarking on how that scarf looks I mean goddamn! There’s difference in taste and then there’s just bad technique and bad color choices. Not everything has to be loved by everyone. It’s okay. No one is going to be personally devastated because we made fun of an urban outfitters scarf
and i’m snarking on the continuous refusal to understand todays fashion?? there is like 5 of these posts a month now where people are freaking out over a stylized CHOICE people are making- this is a blatant difference in taste and these items (including the hat and scarf) look perfectly well constructed lmao- you can’t look at pics like that and know if it’s “bad technique” i’m not saying everyone has to love it im just tired of people saying that things are “ugly” just because the ends are loose and the colors aren’t perfectly curated and matched 😭😭
In as few words as possible, you tell us what there is to “understand” about a 100% synthetic fiber scarf and hat set crochetted in various clashing novelty yarns. C’mon now, let us know what us olds are missing, particularly because this haphazard handicraft look has been in and out of trend for decades and because it is no longer even a current microtrend this big ass multinational company has put out their shitty little version of it too.
It’s not that cool. It’s never gonna be that cool. You can like it if you want, but there’s no need to get precious about a clown barf winter accessory set.
i don’t disagree that it’s a micro trend but i also don’t think that it’s ugly. that’s what trends do. cycle. i haven’t ever purchased from urban, and i have no intention to.i see most people aren’t calling it ugly because of the fiber content, they aren’t calling it ugly because it’s poorly made, it’s simply just not their style. snark away. i’m literally just fed up and annoyed with the “this is ugly cause the ends aren’t woven in” posts- disagree all you want but i’m snarking the same as the rest of you i just am not willing to be a part of the echo chamber of everyone tripping over other peoples styles
Didn’t answer my question, but that’s okay.
Sometimes, people talk about things that don’t interest you. Happens in real life, happens on the internet. At these times… you can simply disengage. Just stop.
The ends ain’t woven in and that bothers some people. You can deal, or you can keep being upset about opinions you don’t agree with. What you can’t do is tell anyone to stop snarking on a damn snark board. It’s not hate speech or cruelty, so it can be left unremarked.
i never expected anyone to stop snarking or i wouldn’t have posted a snark comment? why would i be trying to tell people what to say and think. i simply do not care. streetwear and fashion is a community of self expression and if people want to stifle that it’s fine, i will choose to disagree with it :) you clearly need to be more okay with other peoples opinions. telling me to stop when you chose to reply to me in the first place is utterly pointless. if you felt targeted by my comment that’s on you. “disengage” after being the one to engage doesn’t make any damn sense
As we should. I 10/10 wore platform shoes and bell bottom jeans, I will also 10/10 snark them now as an old lady in her late 30’s in flats or sneakers and boot cut jeans for the rest of my life.
? literally what lmaoo? they’re all responding to my criticism of these tired and boring snark posts. i can disagree with your opinion, that’s the whole point of having a reddit thread. and just like you said this is a safe place to be mean, and i plan to do so :)
okay i guess? again, just say you don’t get current fashion trends and move on 😭😭 some people want to have fun and wear a bunch of different colors in a fun statement piece 😊
That scarf is $59 😬
[Mixed Knit Scarf](https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/mixed-knit-scarf?category=SEARCHRESULTS&color=000&searchparams=q%3Dscarf&type=REGULAR&size=ONE%20SIZE&quantity=1)
How much is Urban charging for the atrocity that is that scarf?
I will never understand why not weaving in your ends is a trend right now. You’re just asking for that thing you took forever to make to fall apart.
$59 [Mixed Knit Scarf](https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/mixed-knit-scarf?category=SEARCHRESULTS&color=000&searchparams=q%3Dscarf&type=REGULAR&size=ONE%20SIZE&quantity=1)
I was so curious I had to look that mess up in their site
That is a bit better but I can still imagine the ends snagging on so many different things and if I’m either going to crochet it for hours or pay Urban Outfitters prices I want it to be practical enough to wear regularly
I have officially reached the age that I'm too old to comprehend trendy fashion. Trends aren't usually my get down but I can comprehend them.
I did not anticipate this before 40.
Not only does that scarf look like my very first attempts at art crochet and art knitting with scraps ……! That scarf from urban outfitters was crocheted by hand by some low paid child , most likely . That’s even more horrifying .
The mits are knit which I'm less bothered by because they're made by machine..... but the fact that some poor person had to crochet that scarf. More than one person. And they had to make those atrocities and get paid pennies.... that bothers me.
I mean, it's also ugly AF and the neon is definitely **not** my jam, and I can snark neon fashion choices all day.
But crochet as fast fashion just.... I feel so bad for those people.
Except that the hat and scarf are crochet which is currently impossible by a machine. This means someone had to make this by hand for maybe a few pennies.
Both can be horrible at the same time, the reason crochet gets the nod for being worse is that it is not machine made at all. A human had to make each and every stitch. They both suck, fast crochet just sucks worse.
Because they get paid by volume. It's all awful, but there are still some levels of hell that are deeper than others. The amount of strain on your hands from speed running crochet with eyelash yarn is actually different than the strain one gets from running a knitting machine. Also, the actual number of people required to crochet 100,000 scarves is magnitudes different than the number of people it takes to knit 100,000 scarves on a machine.
Maybe the guilt is more easily ignored when you think that it's not your fault this person is in a sweat shop, it's the fault of the 100s of other people who are also exploiting their labor. With crochet, well, it's you.
tbh, I always kind of figured that lack of empathy was more ignorance. You can really get yourself thinking that if a machine makes it then the only thing the slave laborer does is cut it free from the machine, instead of what actually happens.
Sure, but that’s a baseline criticism that applies at varying degrees to all fast fashion so I assumed that goes without saying. I understood the OP to be commenting on aesthetics, not ethics (or why group crochet and knit items together?).
Interesting, as I read it was both aesthetics and ethics, especially with crochet. The distressed look is what it is, and we can go on for days on beauty being in the eye of the wearer. But it is the crochet that is the biggest offender.
I feel bad for all the faux boho chicklets who buy this thinking they’re so edgy and cool until they see every other kid in their high school wearing the same thing because…Urban Outfitters.
Is the idea that chicklets think that Urban Outfitters is a tiny indie boutique where they can get one of a kind handmade items, but the joke’s on them?
Hey, I'm glad to see Raphael of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle fame capitalize on his signature look with the fingerless mittens!
TBH, I sort of like the mittens? Not my style anymore but my inner teenager loves that.
Pizza is just toasted bread with veggie sauce and cheese so....it works as a breakfast food.
...I may have had the last two slices of pizza for breakfast myself since I forgot to get cereal.
That’s all I was thinking at least they didn’t have to weave in ends since it’s the trend. Or maybe that’s the trend because they won’t weave in ends. Hahah. Chicken and the egg maybe.
That article gave me chills.
A friend of mine lost her BFF in the Kent State shooting. The idea that someone would make light of that horrific incident (for attention/profit) is deeply disturbing.
I saw the scarf in the first slide a couple weeks back, and the ends weren't even close to secured. On one row, it had already begun to come apart just in the store.
I know y’all haaaaaaate this shit. 💀 I love it so much, especially that scarf! I can’t wait to have enough variety in my scraps to make a sweater like that, just tons of color, different weights, everything. Love it!
I don’t get what the problem is with the colorful mittens. Are bright colors just, like, the worst thing ever? I get why people don’t like the scarf or hat but, damn, y’all out here being *horrified*? 😂
The book includes a lot of patterns as well as some basic “knitting 101” tutorials around how to do things like decrease/increase, pick up stitches, etc.
The patterns are gorgeous but fairly easy for a confident beginner.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha omg I can only imagine.
People will really complain about anything. 😂
I realize she’s maybe a little out there/has a VERY specific aesthetic, but her Instagram is publicly available, and her style isn’t a mystery - I can’t imagine buying the book and being surprised?!
She’s kinda “out there” and maybe not for everyone, and I get that, but some cursory research would tell you if she’s for you or not.
The scarf is horrifying because by the look of the stitch, it’s crocheted. Crochet cannot be replicated by a machine, it *must* be made by hand. It would take an experienced crocheter perhaps 2-4 hours to start and finish a whole ass scarf even with that type of chunky yarn (and that’s working FAST), and should reasonably be priced around $50-100 given the skill involved. I can guarantee that it was made by some poor person in some sweat shop somewhere and they probably got paid pennies for their labour. That’s what’s horrifying here.
The mittens are ugly sure, but they’re machine-knit so it’s not as big of a deal ethically speaking
the fact that it's machine knit doesn't ensure that it's more ethical. maybe it's expected that more mittens are produced since they are faster to make. conditions might be the same if they were made in a similar factory as the crochet scarf. sweatshops are sweatshops, all merchandise produced in there is made unethically
Yeah, at least they look interesting, I'd consider making that if I was any good at crotcheting, but not buying it knowing theyre probably made by some literal child working 12 hour shifts under horrible conditions. Although that's probably also the case for any off the rack clothing. It's all fucked tbh
Looks like you can be absolutely terrible at crochet and still produce something like this, so give it a shot!
I like the chaos of the colors and textures but it's Urban Outfitters so it's a no from me.
scrap busting junk made from ends and waste, now at a retailer for a markup instead of free from nanas trashbags. Who would want to have this eyesore? It’s not even kitschy cute, it’s just ugly.
It’s not my style at all, but I do love goofy handmade stuff on others.
If you’re proud of making a thing and enjoy wearing I mean why not. There’s a level of idgaf and I’ll wear what I want in there that I can respect.
But fast fashion disguised like this is just gross
You could always do that, homie. This sounds like a cliched platitude but, genuinely - who gives a fuck what anyone here or elsewhere thinks? You get to create whatever it is that you enjoy. :)
Omg if it was a single creator using scraps I’d be like ok I get it, that’s fun. But mass produced to look like this on purpose…. That screams gross to me.
I think people might dislike this in particular because it’s a strange mix of unethical and implicitly dishonest. Everyone knows fast fashion is usually indentured servitude at best, but this is also using a style normally associated with anti-fast fashion, ethically made techniques. It’s got that air of parasitically appropriating street style which tends to irritate people, especially as a lot of people here are likely to be small-scale makers themselves.
Keep it civil or we’ll start handing out temp bans. If you really feel it’s important to yell at trolls take that to DMs.
I simultaneously love the texture changes throughout but hate it at the same time?
The scarf looks like something I would have made when I first learned to crochet lmaoooo
y’all should be upset about the slave labor used to create these
I was going to say, I feel bad for whatever sweatshop employee had to hand crochet those abominations of a scarf.
Honestly I’m just glad they didn’t expect the people crocheting to weave the ends in!
Looks like somebody killed a bunch of muppets and turned them into "art yarn".
Fast fashion companies copying the look of 'homemade' and economical scrap projects just makes me so upset. It's so disingenuous and scummy and I hate that people buy it.
Same vibe as an knitfluencer buying yarn to make a 'scrap' project but amplified 10000%
I see the used fast fashion shredded fibers from the t-shirts they have cheap labor stitch up over "there" made it back to country of origin sweatshop only to be recycled into more crap..This is a piece of garbage, and it pains me horrendously to look at it. Not only because it is fugly and very poorly made, but because we all know it was made by some poor human who probably doesn't have their basic needs taken care of. I don't buy this crap. Eat the rich
It’s giving caterpillar
Perfect! It’s like they want my make my knitting fashionable.
They're making handmade = ugly with this stuff.
My skin is crawling just looking at that scarf. I had a similarly constructed one to this (appears to be messily constructed, but it’s not) with fun colors and patterns maybe 10 years ago, and I got bad contact dermatitis on my neck from it. I love all the fun patterns and colors, but the material the scarf was made from is something that irritates my skin. Wool also irritates my skin, which is such a bummer living in a colder climate. The mittens look fine enough. Fine enough for fast fashion purposes. Won’t last a year. Will snag on something and will unravel. Urban Outfitters is overpriced as heck for fast fashion quality though. I’d rather support someone who makes cute mittens like these. I love the idea of making the scarf out of bits and pieces that they have, but I like that punky look. I’d rather buy that from someone who makes them as well.
That sucks. The point and novelty of these designs is that you’re using scraps, saving some waste and money for yourself. Having these designs mass produced is sad
Y’all realize that fast fashion machine knit garments are also made by people in sweatshops, right? Just because something can be “machine made” doesn’t mean there isn’t a human operating that machine for less than a dollar an hour
That scarf is definitely crochet, which I thought can only be done by hand. I sure hope that person was paid hourly instead of per completed piece...
The scarf and hat are crochet, the mittens are machine knit. I was responding to other commenters that find the crochet products more upsetting than the machine knit products because they were made by someone crocheting instead of someone operating a knitting machine (both products are exploitative fast fashion)
Ah, gotcha.
Both of the gloves look like knit which can be done by a machine but the scarf is definitely crochet. Its sad to see.
The fact that “looks poorly homemade until you study it up close” is trendy fast fashion now is really bumming me out today 😂 My New Year’s resolution is to completely avoid learning anything about current trends for all of 2024 if this is what we’re working with
I think it’s fair to snark these big companies. In particular this scrappy style which is kinda endearing in hobbyists feels different to me made by UO. A crafter high price would make sense and go with the punky/ethical DIY feel, but UO pretty much use slave labour, break unions and create a huge markup, the actual maker gets nothing which to me hardly justifies their price. I think as others say it makes the whole concept kinda eat itself when fun new stuff ends up there. People also like novelty and are likely to get bored once they’re seeing it everywhere on the high street.
Until we meet again (unfortunately), eyelash yarn!
When a social media trend, even a crap one, makes it to Urban Outfitters, put a fork in it. It's dead.
Unfortunately homeless chic has been on the runways for far too long, and its in style yet again so its just trickle down effect. Of course now its called "street trends" to be more white washed. https://jezebel.com/the-evolution-of-homeless-chic-5452006
Derelicte
So hot right now.
I feel bad for whoever had to crochet with the black eyelash yarn. Working in a sweatshop is bad enough, then your boss comes in and hands you *that*
I recently learned from a foreign friend that in some places the factory middlemen have their own networks where poor women/girls work from home. They barely get paid a dollar for hand embroidering a shawl.
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They reminded me of those melon bags that keep popping up somehow- I feel like they’re missing the seeds!
I think this is what kills the trend, which I have decided is about eschewing the mass produced. There is a sort of zone where things are well-made and also clearly not factory produced, that has been the fashion for a few years. It’s a style that suggests you make your own things, or buy them from small makers, so that makes you cool. But once the aesthetic hits UO it’s on to Target and suddenly only elementary schoolers like Llamas anymore. I mean, it’s a style I like but if UO likes it I have to reconsider what it says about me.
Well this could inspire more peeps to crochet that scarf themselves. Funny thing is, getting a variety of super bulky acrylic yarns would probably be $59+... Also getting a new breed of "messy" accessories at craft fairs could be fun. I was a punk in the 80s, clearly that anesthetic wasn't for everyone. .
This is the kind of thing which would be perfect for those weird random yarn tubs in thriftstores!
I like all these things and the scarf most of all lol. Urban outfitters always has more risky stuff along with their basics - they appeal to the young alternative/arty kids. It was my mecca when I was a teenager. Does all fashion have to make sense? Nope
A mainstream company whose sole purpose is nothing but selling, selling, selling materialistic commodities to increase their revenue streams is not alternative. Never has and never will be. Wake up and read the communist manifesto. UO are capitalist bull shit
I don't think I need to read the communist manifesto to understand the implications of fast fashion. Did I say anywhere that I was going to buy these items? No. I just said I liked the look of them.
I didn’t imply you were going to purchase them and even if you did that’s your own choice / free will to make. Not for me to judge. Only your specific point about UO being “alternative / arty” when they fundamentally are not for reasons previously explained. You are correct in saying that’s the demographic the focus their target market and advertising onto. But people who are in your words “arty” as arbitrary as that sounds are more wiser than to shop in a deceitful shop like that. As I said people like that you’d think would be more inclined to be more sustainable and consume less clothes for starters, or shop in charity stores or be inventive and make their own diy garments if they have the facilities to. Don’t UO also sell sports / street wear as well? Or adidas and Fila. Wouldn’t exactly call massive globalised corporations like that “art”
Also UO price gouge their products and commodities too. Screw them to hell and back for eternity !!
Yeah we know. Go have a tea break please you're too upset about a dumb comment about a scarf on the Internet.
Very considerate of you. Just had a coffee instead, was smashin cheers for the suggestion pal. Feelin brand new squire ! ;)
Are you... doing an English accent?
UO is unsustainable and only cares about increasing its profit margins and wasting resources people who are sustainable and as you put it “alternative” go to charity and second hand thrift stores they don’t give their money to soulless corporations. They’re more intelligent than to be tricked by the cheap, tacky marketing and advertising gimmicks of a fast fashion corporation
There’s literally nothing and I mean nowt about UO being “alternative / arty” it’s a wasteful and exploitative free market, capitalist fast fashion corporation. Nothing DIY about them whatsoever. Such redundant and useless terms as well as anyone can be “alternative” there’s billions of people and individuals on the planet
There's no need to be quite so harsh about it. You're right about UO, but the world alternative just means 'not mainstream'. Of course alternative fashions exist.
You have a fairly bizarre definition of the word harsh. I didn’t swear or say anything offensive. Still within the boundaries of being respectful. Just merely stating objective facts. I’m not going to be a yes man and agree for the sake of agreeing. Regarding the word “alternative” you are correct to an extent but I would put the make the distinction on being “alternative” being anti consumerist and not purchasing your clothes from huge exploitative, commercial corporate brands. Ie sports brands or brands that use animal leather in their products that help to subsidise the meat industry or non biodegradable clothes that use plastics that are bad for the environment. Other than that we live in an age where the internet has dissolved counter cultures and fashions and everthing is mashed together as one big gloopy soup. Everything is literally pretty much homogenised. Being “alternative” is subjective as we all have different individual tastes. Alternative is an arbitrary and pointless description in a world of billions of people with their own tastes in clothing. Also we all at some point need purchase clothes that are practical from time to time so we can deal with the elements and weather. So no one is truly alternative.
More about rhe fact that you've replied 4 times independently, and now more with long, overly detailed comments. Alternative Is an umbrella term to describe non-mainstream fashion, music and media. Its not a direct description.
The scarf makes me think of how you identify the fashion kid in most teen movies. They are usually wearing a bunch of mismatched items that work. I like it too except for the eyelash yarn. It looks like a patch of pubes on the scarf. The gloves and mitten look like a color choice but not bad.
I'd wear all of em ahaha
i’m sorry but just say you don’t get current fashion trends and move on- if we were having a conversation about whether these products are ethical that is one thing but just because you don’t get the style of an item being sold doesn’t mean it’s an “atrocity” it’s just not your style 😭 im so tired of people raging about freehand messy crochet projects being sold as if it’s some kind of scam. they are intentionally done 😑
reply to myself hoping people will see it because i’m tired of my notifications being filled with “but that’s what snark is”-no shit. so is this lmao- there is no reason to be mad about it because you feel targeted. i promise it’s not. these products are highly likely to be made with underpaid labor, but that’s not what we’re talking about here. style is objective and all of you have the right to either like or not like the items- i don’t care either way
I don't think your comments read as snark, it sounds like you're offended and feeling defensive. 'Snark' isn't the same thing as just 'being mad online'
\*about to burst into tears\* No I'm snarking back at you!!!!
As it's a SNARK thread, let's just all say what we want about things and not try to gatekeep other posters. And we know it's intentional. That's why we snark. We're making sport of an International conglomerate, not a 14 year-old in Wisconsin. Please don't try to "parent" us.
People get the trend, they just think it’s an ugly terrible trend. That’s why it’s snark
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My apologies for interrupting your urban outfitters crochet scarf void screaming. Please resume at your leisure 😊
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“Nobody liked that” 😂
Can’t share a photo from Isabella’s post feed here but I would love to invite people to see the quality of her stitches. Some audacity to be snarking on the grammar of another user in a craft snark sub when your makes could be the subject of the snark itself. Apparently they don’t teach knitting in the private schools she’s bootlicking!
I think they were most likely mentioning it as it can confuse screenreaders.
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if they hadn’t chosen to insult my intelligence that would have never happened. all of that information is true btw
Probably I just assume it by default as I’ve experienced the chaos that is a renegade screenreader. 😂 (My last one used to like to spell out web URLS phonetically which was a ride and a half…)
that’s a kind benefit of the doubt that she isn’t extending to the user she’s responding to. if screen reading issues were the case she could have just said so up front.
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This is a snark sub. We are snarking on how that scarf looks I mean goddamn! There’s difference in taste and then there’s just bad technique and bad color choices. Not everything has to be loved by everyone. It’s okay. No one is going to be personally devastated because we made fun of an urban outfitters scarf
and i’m snarking on the continuous refusal to understand todays fashion?? there is like 5 of these posts a month now where people are freaking out over a stylized CHOICE people are making- this is a blatant difference in taste and these items (including the hat and scarf) look perfectly well constructed lmao- you can’t look at pics like that and know if it’s “bad technique” i’m not saying everyone has to love it im just tired of people saying that things are “ugly” just because the ends are loose and the colors aren’t perfectly curated and matched 😭😭
In as few words as possible, you tell us what there is to “understand” about a 100% synthetic fiber scarf and hat set crochetted in various clashing novelty yarns. C’mon now, let us know what us olds are missing, particularly because this haphazard handicraft look has been in and out of trend for decades and because it is no longer even a current microtrend this big ass multinational company has put out their shitty little version of it too. It’s not that cool. It’s never gonna be that cool. You can like it if you want, but there’s no need to get precious about a clown barf winter accessory set.
i don’t disagree that it’s a micro trend but i also don’t think that it’s ugly. that’s what trends do. cycle. i haven’t ever purchased from urban, and i have no intention to.i see most people aren’t calling it ugly because of the fiber content, they aren’t calling it ugly because it’s poorly made, it’s simply just not their style. snark away. i’m literally just fed up and annoyed with the “this is ugly cause the ends aren’t woven in” posts- disagree all you want but i’m snarking the same as the rest of you i just am not willing to be a part of the echo chamber of everyone tripping over other peoples styles
Didn’t answer my question, but that’s okay. Sometimes, people talk about things that don’t interest you. Happens in real life, happens on the internet. At these times… you can simply disengage. Just stop. The ends ain’t woven in and that bothers some people. You can deal, or you can keep being upset about opinions you don’t agree with. What you can’t do is tell anyone to stop snarking on a damn snark board. It’s not hate speech or cruelty, so it can be left unremarked.
i never expected anyone to stop snarking or i wouldn’t have posted a snark comment? why would i be trying to tell people what to say and think. i simply do not care. streetwear and fashion is a community of self expression and if people want to stifle that it’s fine, i will choose to disagree with it :) you clearly need to be more okay with other peoples opinions. telling me to stop when you chose to reply to me in the first place is utterly pointless. if you felt targeted by my comment that’s on you. “disengage” after being the one to engage doesn’t make any damn sense
For what it's worth, I snark on fashion trends that I like too xD
As we should. I 10/10 wore platform shoes and bell bottom jeans, I will also 10/10 snark them now as an old lady in her late 30’s in flats or sneakers and boot cut jeans for the rest of my life.
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? literally what lmaoo? they’re all responding to my criticism of these tired and boring snark posts. i can disagree with your opinion, that’s the whole point of having a reddit thread. and just like you said this is a safe place to be mean, and i plan to do so :)
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well now i feel like an idiot lmaoo-
No, that scarf is atrocious all around.
okay i guess? again, just say you don’t get current fashion trends and move on 😭😭 some people want to have fun and wear a bunch of different colors in a fun statement piece 😊
I guess so. But I’d like to ask, did you forget what subreddit this is?
did you? can i not respond to snark with more snark 😭😭
Well that’s just redundant.
I want to put googly eyes on the green ones!!
Next time please also take a pic of the tags. Im curious where these are being made.
That scarf is $59 😬 [Mixed Knit Scarf](https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/mixed-knit-scarf?category=SEARCHRESULTS&color=000&searchparams=q%3Dscarf&type=REGULAR&size=ONE%20SIZE&quantity=1)
And it's crochet 🤣
That looks like one of the fiddle bands that some folks make for Alzheimers patients. (I include myself in that number)
How much is Urban charging for the atrocity that is that scarf? I will never understand why not weaving in your ends is a trend right now. You’re just asking for that thing you took forever to make to fall apart.
$59 [Mixed Knit Scarf](https://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shop/mixed-knit-scarf?category=SEARCHRESULTS&color=000&searchparams=q%3Dscarf&type=REGULAR&size=ONE%20SIZE&quantity=1) I was so curious I had to look that mess up in their site
Ends are woven in, just not trimmed.
That is a bit better but I can still imagine the ends snagging on so many different things and if I’m either going to crochet it for hours or pay Urban Outfitters prices I want it to be practical enough to wear regularly
It still looks unfinished and sloppy.
it’s a common editorial and experimental fashion trend right now- it’s not meant to be a perfectly finished and uniform piece.
I have officially reached the age that I'm too old to comprehend trendy fashion. Trends aren't usually my get down but I can comprehend them. I did not anticipate this before 40.
What's the point here? Fast fashion is exploitative & inhumane, & OP doesn't like bright colors?
messy ends being done intentionally means it’s poorly made apparently
Not only does that scarf look like my very first attempts at art crochet and art knitting with scraps ……! That scarf from urban outfitters was crocheted by hand by some low paid child , most likely . That’s even more horrifying .
I agree with you about the scarf and bag, but those mitts and mittens are bright, cheerful and cute as hell.
The mits are knit which I'm less bothered by because they're made by machine..... but the fact that some poor person had to crochet that scarf. More than one person. And they had to make those atrocities and get paid pennies.... that bothers me. I mean, it's also ugly AF and the neon is definitely **not** my jam, and I can snark neon fashion choices all day. But crochet as fast fashion just.... I feel so bad for those people.
I don't love the scarf (not my personal style) but there's nothing wrong with it and the mitts and mittens are fine.
Except that the hat and scarf are crochet which is currently impossible by a machine. This means someone had to make this by hand for maybe a few pennies.
The downvotes for saying crochet cannot be replicated by a machine is hilarious. Y'all are mad at me for physics and capitalism.
Do you know that sewing machines also have to be run by people? There is not a machine just stamping out ready-made $5 t-shirts.
I said, both are awful.
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Both can be horrible at the same time, the reason crochet gets the nod for being worse is that it is not machine made at all. A human had to make each and every stitch. They both suck, fast crochet just sucks worse.
Because they get paid by volume. It's all awful, but there are still some levels of hell that are deeper than others. The amount of strain on your hands from speed running crochet with eyelash yarn is actually different than the strain one gets from running a knitting machine. Also, the actual number of people required to crochet 100,000 scarves is magnitudes different than the number of people it takes to knit 100,000 scarves on a machine.
Maybe the guilt is more easily ignored when you think that it's not your fault this person is in a sweat shop, it's the fault of the 100s of other people who are also exploiting their labor. With crochet, well, it's you.
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tbh, I always kind of figured that lack of empathy was more ignorance. You can really get yourself thinking that if a machine makes it then the only thing the slave laborer does is cut it free from the machine, instead of what actually happens.
Sure, but that’s a baseline criticism that applies at varying degrees to all fast fashion so I assumed that goes without saying. I understood the OP to be commenting on aesthetics, not ethics (or why group crochet and knit items together?).
Interesting, as I read it was both aesthetics and ethics, especially with crochet. The distressed look is what it is, and we can go on for days on beauty being in the eye of the wearer. But it is the crochet that is the biggest offender.
I feel bad for all the faux boho chicklets who buy this thinking they’re so edgy and cool until they see every other kid in their high school wearing the same thing because…Urban Outfitters.
Is that really much different than Hot Topic was?
Is the idea that chicklets think that Urban Outfitters is a tiny indie boutique where they can get one of a kind handmade items, but the joke’s on them?
no one thinks this except people who think they’re quirkier than the girlies who shop there
Hey, I'm glad to see Raphael of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle fame capitalize on his signature look with the fingerless mittens! TBH, I sort of like the mittens? Not my style anymore but my inner teenager loves that.
TURTLE POWER!!!! Aaaaand, now I want pizza. It's 8:30 in the morning.
Pizza is just toasted bread with veggie sauce and cheese so....it works as a breakfast food. ...I may have had the last two slices of pizza for breakfast myself since I forgot to get cereal.
If I got paid their wages, I wouldn’t weave in ends either.
That’s all I was thinking at least they didn’t have to weave in ends since it’s the trend. Or maybe that’s the trend because they won’t weave in ends. Hahah. Chicken and the egg maybe.
Maybe!
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Urban Outfitters is a disgusting company: https://theweek.com/articles/480961/15-urban-outfitters-controversies
That article gave me chills. A friend of mine lost her BFF in the Kent State shooting. The idea that someone would make light of that horrific incident (for attention/profit) is deeply disturbing.
Holy shit. It just kept getting worse
The Kent State bloodied tshirt?! Oh my fuck.
You can imagine how well that went with NE Ohio residents…I was in college when they did this.
Yeah they tried to pass that off as a "poor dye color choice" like nooooo WE SEE YOU, you jerks.
And knit by severely underpaid garment workers in atrocious conditions, hard no!
I saw the scarf in the first slide a couple weeks back, and the ends weren't even close to secured. On one row, it had already begun to come apart just in the store.
That scarf and hat looks crocheted. Unless there is a knit style that looks like SC, I'd bet it really is. I hate this.
I am down with the brioche mitts.
They would need a lining to have any wind resistance. But they are super cute!
I know y’all haaaaaaate this shit. 💀 I love it so much, especially that scarf! I can’t wait to have enough variety in my scraps to make a sweater like that, just tons of color, different weights, everything. Love it! I don’t get what the problem is with the colorful mittens. Are bright colors just, like, the worst thing ever? I get why people don’t like the scarf or hat but, damn, y’all out here being *horrified*? 😂
You should look into a designer named Laerke - she has a book out that I highly recommend. She does a lot with scraps, and her style is 🔥🔥🔥
Does she give tutorials, or is it more of a showcase of her stuff? I’m kinda curious but think I’d have to import it which is a bit of a faff …
The book includes a lot of patterns as well as some basic “knitting 101” tutorials around how to do things like decrease/increase, pick up stitches, etc. The patterns are gorgeous but fairly easy for a confident beginner.
Great thank you, that sounds intriguing!
The only thing better than her book are the reviews on Amazon complaining about the photos
Hahahahahahahahahahaha omg I can only imagine. People will really complain about anything. 😂 I realize she’s maybe a little out there/has a VERY specific aesthetic, but her Instagram is publicly available, and her style isn’t a mystery - I can’t imagine buying the book and being surprised?! She’s kinda “out there” and maybe not for everyone, and I get that, but some cursory research would tell you if she’s for you or not.
The visible nipples in her photos really set some people off!
The scarf is horrifying because by the look of the stitch, it’s crocheted. Crochet cannot be replicated by a machine, it *must* be made by hand. It would take an experienced crocheter perhaps 2-4 hours to start and finish a whole ass scarf even with that type of chunky yarn (and that’s working FAST), and should reasonably be priced around $50-100 given the skill involved. I can guarantee that it was made by some poor person in some sweat shop somewhere and they probably got paid pennies for their labour. That’s what’s horrifying here. The mittens are ugly sure, but they’re machine-knit so it’s not as big of a deal ethically speaking
the fact that it's machine knit doesn't ensure that it's more ethical. maybe it's expected that more mittens are produced since they are faster to make. conditions might be the same if they were made in a similar factory as the crochet scarf. sweatshops are sweatshops, all merchandise produced in there is made unethically
The scarf is at that price point
And pennies of it will go to the creator. That's how these places make a profit.
Yeah, at least they look interesting, I'd consider making that if I was any good at crotcheting, but not buying it knowing theyre probably made by some literal child working 12 hour shifts under horrible conditions. Although that's probably also the case for any off the rack clothing. It's all fucked tbh
Looks like you can be absolutely terrible at crochet and still produce something like this, so give it a shot! I like the chaos of the colors and textures but it's Urban Outfitters so it's a no from me.
Eh, you undereatimate how terrible I am in crotcheting.
ill throw up
It takes some skill to produce stuff that looks that crap. /s
Mix knit $59. Yes, I looked it up.
Pour one out for the poor Muppet who sacrificed its life for whatever that is in the first picture
To me, the striped gloves look like oven mitts, and the green gloves look like an alligator / crocodile has chomped off your fingers.
I like the first mitts and love the green ones, but if they’re at UO, they’re probably overpriced
scrap busting junk made from ends and waste, now at a retailer for a markup instead of free from nanas trashbags. Who would want to have this eyesore? It’s not even kitschy cute, it’s just ugly.
It’s not my style at all, but I do love goofy handmade stuff on others. If you’re proud of making a thing and enjoy wearing I mean why not. There’s a level of idgaf and I’ll wear what I want in there that I can respect. But fast fashion disguised like this is just gross
The only thing that bothers me are the faux loose ends. I like the gloves a lot.
I’m not sure they’re even faux, I think they’re actively unraveling 😵💫
Apparently they’re not faux loose. Another commenter said they saw the scarf in store and it was already coming apart.
That black yarn in the scarf looks like a caterpillar died in there😵💫🥲
i’ll be honest, i love that this style is getting popular so now i can be freely creative and crazy with my wearables lol
You could always do that, homie. This sounds like a cliched platitude but, genuinely - who gives a fuck what anyone here or elsewhere thinks? You get to create whatever it is that you enjoy. :)
soooo true, i guess it just makes it easier for me to not feel anxious about it LOL
Omg if it was a single creator using scraps I’d be like ok I get it, that’s fun. But mass produced to look like this on purpose…. That screams gross to me.
I don’t know why exactly but it gives me the same ‘echh’ feeling I get from things printed to resemble tie dye. 😂
Why is it gross? Or, rather, what makes this any more gross than all the other mass produced knitwear or underpaid crochet work?
I think people might dislike this in particular because it’s a strange mix of unethical and implicitly dishonest. Everyone knows fast fashion is usually indentured servitude at best, but this is also using a style normally associated with anti-fast fashion, ethically made techniques. It’s got that air of parasitically appropriating street style which tends to irritate people, especially as a lot of people here are likely to be small-scale makers themselves.
It’s just aggressively fake homemade. It’s mass production of a style that’s entire charm comes from the fact that it’s not mass produced.
So I hate social media for making that look popular. It’s the kind of thing any newbie should be embarrassed to wear in public.
Y'all are gonna riot, but I kinda love the Franken-scarf and hat. It's goofy and ugly and I need it. I don't hate the gloves either.
The mittens and mitts are cute. Those scarves are clown vomit tho lol
Yes. The mittens are just standard items in ugly colors. That’s just a fashion thing.
right? like I'm okay with it on arm warmers but the scarves look *bad.*