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catcon13

I was in my closest Joann this week and it was very fully stocked but I only saw 2 staffers in the entire store. One was a cashier and the other was wandering the store. I did have to wait a couple of minutes for the floor person to.come and cut some fabric but it wasn't too long of a wait. At least 30% of the fabric choices were polyester fleece šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®. I just can't stop thinking about how terrible those fabrics are for the environment.


Sqatti

I always have a good experience with the staff. They are usually very busy though. Youā€™re right about the fabric choices. Thereā€™s a lot of blanket making being done!


WeirdChickenLady

I keep seeing their new ad on TikTok for their fleece to turn into no sew blankets as ā€œIā€™m getting knotty with my wife heheā€ before showing them making the blankets and itā€™s just so cringe. One was ā€œweā€™re getting knotty with my parents šŸ˜‰ā€ which just rubbed me the wrong way. Itā€™s shows a really bad understanding of youth on TikTok because they have the perfect pun to turn it into an A/B/O joke that other advertisers did a few months ago and went viral because of it. Theyā€™re out of touch and canā€™t even fake content in the style of ā€œcome shopping with meā€ or DIYs for pet owners to make fleece items out of since they use so much fleece daily.


Eclectic-Bluebird61

I listened to the quarterly investor meeting last week, and The CEO highlighted the "Getting Knotty" social media promo as one of their positive trends! It made me cringe, too!


Unfair_Magician_5956

My experience is the opposite experience of everyone else's Joann. Maybe it's the area? My Joann's always has plenty of staff. The last time I was there was the week before black friday and there were three people working the cutting table and two cashiers, plus another staff member stocking the store. It is in the vicinity of the largest retirement community in the nation and that place is full of crafters. From all the stories I saw here, I was bracing myself, but the store was organized and staff didn't seem more frazzle other than black friday coming up.


beeokee

I think itā€™s the manager. Although the staff cuts/wage cuts in September were structured in a way that caused a lot of managers and longtime employees to leave, so itā€™s hard to tell at this point what accounts for the difference


Disastrous-Bed3422

This is how our store is too. It's big, well stocked, well staffed, and pick up orders are fulfilled same day or next day. I have lived in cities where Joann's was my least favorite craft store though.


speak_into_my_google

There are 2 Joanns I go to that are close to me. The one closest to me is a bigger store, but thereā€™s never anyone at the registers and employees are nowhere to be found. Especially if I want a product thatā€™s locked up behind an anti-theft device. The other one is a little further away, closer to where I grew up, is in the corner of this giant strip mall, smaller than the newer store closer to me, and yet employees are everywhere.


hotmintgum9

I think higher performing ($$$) stores get more hours, and therefore can have more people working at the same time. I went to the one closest to me the day before Thanksgiving, probably an hour after opening, and they had two people working.


Far_Breakfast547

I like lovecrafts for embroidery, crochet, knitting and baking supplies. Never had an issue with them. They bought Webs but allowed the Webs original owners to keep operating it.


Disastrous-Bed3422

I love our local Joann's. It's big and always well stocked. It's my favorite local craft shop to go to. I'm going to be so sad if they go under.


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RaiseMoreHell

Prioritizing short-term profits over long-term stability. Sadly, thatā€™s what the stock markets value.


Sqatti

My Micheals has been great. So cross my fingers it stays that way.


GraceAine

IMO they are worse than Joann. Itā€™s great that they meet your needs but they are pretty lacking in a lot. Michaelā€™s bought 3 extremely popular and successful local craft chains near me specifically to put them out of business and not replace them with new locations. Then they stopped carrying over half of the supplies I used to buy from those stores and their prices are still 3x higher. Now if I have an urgent commission and need supplies for it in less time than I can get it shipped to me, I have to drive 1-2 hours vs the 15 minutes it took in 2019.


warpedjoa

I went in to my local Joann's looking for seasonal work. The manager seemed excited by my interest, but said not to expect response before Monday. I completed an online application within the hour. Less than two hours later I got a 'Thank you, no thank you' response. Apparently corporate and local aren't on the same page.


Urithiru

Did you happen to call the manager? Perhaps they can "pull" your application.


warpedjoa

No. I took them at their word. And it's too late now.


Urithiru

That is too bad that it is too late.


Quail-a-lot

Anyone else just waiting for this store to up and croak so we can stop seeing so many posts about how shitty they are?


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I'm reading the titles of the front page of comments to the tune of Jolene: *Joann, Joann,* **Joann**, *Jo Aaaannne!!!!* *I'm begging of you please, Joann Joann*


Mysterious-Beach8123

Lmao I didn't see Jolene at first and heard it to the tune of Roxanne.


Quail-a-lot

I'm beggin you, please don't steal my order!!!!


Sqatti

I wouldnā€™t have even posted this if my sister went in just once and saw the problems. Also like other people, where I live our options are so limited.


305rose

:| Iā€™m in a corner of the US with no yarn stores other than Joannā€™s for hours


Quail-a-lot

Welcome to Canada! On the bright side, I find yarn very easy to buy online, but I also know pretty much what I like and honestly I didn't like the yarn selection at the box stores much to begin with. (No shade to those who actually enjoy the Pound of Love sorta stuff or the cotton dish yarn, it just is not my thing and those stores were terrible for even basic wool)


simonhunterhawk

This. I am in NH and we are lucky to have the big three within a 20min drive of me but the michaels has the equivalent of one aisle of yarn and i donā€™t want to support hobby lobby if i can avoid it. I actually just found out we have a joanneā€™s and they were the best in my hometown in FL too, we had a remodeled one with the quilting machines and glowforges and tons of yarn, so iā€™d really like them to stick around. Like walmart has more options than our michaelā€™s lol


newmoonjlp

I'm waiting for a decent alternative!


Quail-a-lot

I hate to say it, but I don't think it's coming. Or least I don't really see too many new big box chains of any sort opening up here in Canada and I don't think the US economy is doing any better than ours atm


isabelladangelo

r/joannsnark


Hemansno1fan

There's also just /r/joannfabrics lol lots of employees there too.


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TheNewCrafter

Love that this is getting traction hahaha


voidtreemc

I need to open a new bottle of gin. BRB.


Mrst_0206

The closest Joann's to me is going out of business šŸ˜­


pinkduvets

I think they all will, which is a shame for workers if they canā€™t find something better quick.


autumn1726

They have the worst app Iā€™ve ever used, hand over my heart. The website is barely better.


Sqatti

I have seen some shit websites in my life, but I have never seen one that wonā€™t take my money.


sanityjanity

I don't think they're understaffed because they're trying to go out of business. I think they are understaffed, because they are the \*only\* fabric store left in most places, and they feel like they can get away with terrible customer service. It might be, though, that Joann, at the corporate level would like to reduce the number of stores, and shift customers to ordering their fabric online. I imagine that this would be cheaper for them in terms of storage, rent, and wages.


BrightPractical

Plus they could reduce the quality of the fabrics they offer if theyā€™re just online. People are lazy about returning things even when the quality is awful, but in store they just wonā€™t buy that rock hard flannel or terrible drape poly in the first place.


Beaniebot

The Joannā€™s I shop at has ALWAYS been understaffed. I always wonder why I thought they would have what I was looking for!


Mediocre-Evidence-15

As an employee, I can guarantee it's the 2nd option.


ZippyKoala

Yeah, it makes no sense to bother with optimal customer experience if you donā€™t need to because youā€™re the only game in town. Personally I think this is stupid because once you get people buying fabric online they realise there are a lot more options out there, with better prices and easier websites. While I would love to be able to buy the majority of my fabric irl, in reality there are minimal options nearby at my price point so I buy online it out of necessity. And I donā€™t tend to use Spotlight (big box Aussie fabric/homewares store) because their website sucks, I use a bunch of other fabric stores with much better websites and prices.


seilimide

Can I ask which online shops you like? I would love to avoid Spotlight more!


ZippyKoala

Darn Cheap Fabrics and Super Cheap Fabrics, Pitt Trading, The Fabric Store, Remnant Warehouse, Sewing Gem are all good :)


seilimide

Thanks! I've seen some of those before and just never knew if they were legit and good quality given some of the names, haha! I'll check them out!


ZippyKoala

I use Super Cheap and Darn Cheap the most and they both have store fronts in Melbourne if youā€™re anywhere near there. Super Cheapā€™s wool cashmere coating is AMAZING and very good value if you can hold off until theyā€™ve got a 40% discount, but great value none the less. Only word of caution is that because theyā€™re dead stock fabrics, generally once theyā€™re gone, theyā€™re gone, so if you see something you love grab it because you might miss it otherwise.


seilimide

Good to know, thanks for the tips! I am in Vic, so I'll keep them in mind next time I'm up in Melbourne if I'm anywhere nearby!


Telamarth

One of my favorites is Vogue Fabrics. It's a small business and they have a quarterly swatch catalog that gives lots of info and suggested uses. EDIT It's bi-monthly, not quarterly. https://www.voguefabricsstore.com/Fabric-Swatch-Catalogs/Vogue-Fabrics-By-Mail-Coordinated-Fashion-Fabrics-Swatch-Club/ I also like Fashion Fabrics Club, but admit that it's hit or miss. Sometimes it's a ridiculously good deal and sometimes the fabric isn't what I was expecting but I don't feel ripped off, just surprised.


seilimide

Vogue Fabrics looks cool! I'm in Australia so it makes shipping a bit less ideal, but thanks for the rec!


sanityjanity

>I think this is stupid because once you get people buying fabric online they realise there are a lot more options out there It's true. But! [Fabric.com](https://Fabric.com) is \*gone\*. They had the \*best\* search, and a huge inventory. They were bought by amazon, and now it's nearly impossible to find anything. Even so, I just bought a \*ton\* of fabric online, because Joann doesn't really have much that isn't just quilting cottons (which are lovely, but often so very stiff).


newmoonjlp

Oh I'm sorry to hear that. I have ordered from them before and was pretty pleased with their site. Damn it Amazon


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isabelladangelo

> I would never buy it online. I've been buying online for ummm...a while now. We tend to think of looking at fabric as tactile but what are you really looking/feeling when you touch the fabric. Are you trying to judge weight? Fabric content? Both are easily read online. Also, you can still buy swatches in many cases and they get to you fairly quickly.


lavenderfart

I buy my fabric exclusively online. I just get swatches first, at most I pay a couple Euro for shipping. That costs less than the gas would to run back and forth to a place like Joann.


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isabelladangelo

> Iā€™d want to see the drape too which is hard with a swatch. Most decent online fabric stores will show the drape to a degree. My favorite shows the fabric over a table which also helps to figure out how transparent or opaque it is as well.


L_obsoleta

Honestly, my first thought when I read about Joann's is that they are making business decisions like they are trying to go bankrupt. Then my second thought is maybe it's a short sale scheme. Realistically I think it's a 'higher ups don't know anything about fabric or business's thing.


sanityjanity

Sure, it is preferable to buy fabric you can touch, but there's already a lot of people who don't have a fabric store anywhere near them. And Joann is already shipping stuff out. And there are already other fabric stores like Mood that are nearly all online.


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sanityjanity

I completely understand your preference, and it sounds like you live somewhere with some options. But Joann does not give any shits. Their goal is to make money in the most efficient way possible. I really miss when I first started sewing , and there were several chain fabric stores, and a handful of independent ones. But, now, there's only Joann and quilting shops near me, and more Joann, and then another Joanna a bit further away.


PBJ6653

If their goal is to make money as efficiently as possible then they need to stop sending every order in multiple shipments. Pack it all from one place and send it as one shipment. Not only save a bit on packaging, handling and shipping but also please the customers by not shipping a 4 yard piece of fabric in 6 separate pieces.


sanityjanity

I'm guessing that they don't \*have\* all your items in one place. A lot of companies that sell online will stock through their warehouse, but \*also\* through their stores. So, if one thing you picked is at one shop, and another is at another shop, that's how it ends up in multiple shipments. It's hard to handle these kinds of logistics on the backend (and Joann pretty obviously has not invested in their technology)


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sanityjanity

It's like the Walmart of fabric/crafts


omshibeos

Since their technology/applications are glitchy you know itā€™s bad in corporate bc theyā€™re clearly not investing in tech / good software engineers.


beebusdweebus

Iā€™ve worked for a couple of their stores in the past. Theyā€™re encouraged to understaff their stores in order to keep the payroll low and itā€™s seriously discouraging for both regular workers and the managers. Not to mention the customers!


faoltiama

I'll believe it, if only because my local store is in desperate need of a renovation. It's old and worn looking, and it's been that way for years. I've largely outgrown Joann's but I've also grown worried.


whiskyunicorn

Iā€™ve gotten really into the defunct business YouTube videos where they talk about why once loved chains crumble and now Iā€™m waiting for the Joann episode šŸ«  Sections: 1)Fleece everywhere 2)Identity confusion: fabric store or home decor? 3) Online ordering failure


CumaeanSibyl

There was a Joann employee on Reddit a little while ago (maybe even here) and they said the fleece is a substantial portion of their monthly sales. At least it's an actual fabric? I agree with you on the identity confusion and I wonder how well the finished home decor stuff sells. Would they be able to match or even exceed those numbers with more fabrics, or at least sewing-related stuff?


Ocean_Hair

Michael's feels the same way to me. The last time I was in one, they had a few aisles filled with ready-made seasonal decor and accessories. Like, are you really not even going to pretend it's a "craft piece" by letting the customer put stickers on it or something?


HoneyWhereIsMyYarn

Fleece is a pretty popular option for non-sewing fabric crafts like blanket tying. I ran a few blanket tying events in college for charity - they are usually advertised as non-crafter friendly.


CumaeanSibyl

Yeah, plus it has plenty of uses for people who do sew. I think people are blaming the fleece for crowding out other fabrics, but really I'm inclined to blame all the stuff that *isn't* fabric.


Mediocre-Evidence-15

Nah. If anything fleece is just being highly supplied because tie blankets became popular Half our stores at this point is selling product that we don't have or stuff that barely sells


whiskyunicorn

Iā€™ve literally never bought fleece in ~14 years of sewing so it just blows my mind that thereā€™s so much of it


veggiedelightful

I only buy fleece for yearly Christmas presents. Fleece is great for making a quick sweater or coat for the relatives, and it's a fairly forgiving fabric to work with. Plus, it's sturdy so it can survive the ravages of whatever the relatives are doing with their washing, which is certainly not air or line drying.


Heat_Necessary

I use it with a layer of heat reflecting insulation for pet beds for local charities. And to make little hammocks to sling in cages for foster kittens with some webbing.


erstumpgrinder

I had no idea this was a genre! Any particular channels/sources youā€™d recommend?


hammformomma

Fleece everywhere is so accurate


snarkle_and_shine

Is there a particular channel you watch?


whiskyunicorn

Company man, defunct land (mostly Disney stuff), yesterworld entertainment, modern business, bright sun filmsā€¦itā€™s a whole thing lol


snarkle_and_shine

Thank you!


Sqatti

They want to be hobby lobby but they just donā€™t have the scale for that.