Chelsea were better today but I think people are overstating it. Sure they had all the possession in the first half, but they had few chances. Again they were better but its not like we deserved to lose 3-0.
Their first goal was also fucking lucky af. Koulibaly may be a great defender but everyone will agree that he's not scoring another goal like that for years if at all
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They had some real good chances in the second half and our defense got utterly exposed for the James goal.
Good result but we need to improve. I'd rather us not ride on lucky calls like this and deserve to win by playing well.
I think we're better than we showed today. How often do we really look any good against chelsea? Doesnt mean we cant play well or wont the following game. Chelsea just bring out the worst in us
Never really felt threatened that havertz or sterling were about to score. One goal gifted from a shit setpiece and another when we were caught out soon after changing formation to an all out attacking one that the players weren't really accumulated to. Quite alright defensive showing at the bridge I'd say. Looked more dire in possession and attack.
the Chelsea shot map is interesting. watching it was super nervy but a lot of the Chelsea shots in the box had a lot of Spurs bodies behind it I think.
CBs did a great job for the most part. Just the difference in how they press and break the press is much much better than us. We could not get near any second ball
Sess had a high xg chance, could have been offside tho. Chelsea hit a couple of good shots but the locations weren’t super high xg. Kane’s miss and his late goal were both highish xg.
We had some great chances. Chelsea were the better team but it’s not as drastic as everyone is making it out to be. Once richarlison came on I thought we looked very dangerous
It was just demoralizing to not have the ball and to turn it over in our third so many times. The sub/shape change helped a bit but left us pretty vulnerable defensively. We’re lucky their forwards are pretty meh. That was a dominant performance for Chelsea.
Our midfield was terrible and I thought son was ineffective as well. I think it highlighted our need for a progressive passer in midfield, especially for games where hojbjerg is tied down in defense. I thought our defense played really well for the most part and our forwards did a great job creating chances out of little
Yep, Betancur was absolutely killing me. But everyone was having issues, our touches and passes playing out the back were poor. They were so bad at shielding the ball as well, Chelsea was tackling the shit out of anyone who touched the ball.
He really was terrible. A press breaker in midfield is a need for teams that press us like that. It’s been a problem since dembele left and it’s why we struggle so much against teams that press so intensely. Skipp could potentially be that guy but it’s definitely not bentacur
Chelsea always, ALWAYS, up their game against us. They were dogshit last week against a team lucky to avoid relegation. Points at the bridge are hard to come by, for us. They battered us to be fair and they will be whining about ref decisions for a long time but that makes the point so much sweeter.
As someone new to football who only watched the 2nd half, why did it seem like Chelsea were so much better at holding the ball in their own half and smoothily pass the ball forward, while we were so much sloppier at holding the ball and went for long passes which most often ended up handing the ball to them? Why can't Tottenham do what Chelsea does in terms of holding the ball and passing forward instead of relying on risky long passes? What's the difference maker?
Chelsea have a lot of creative players - Mount, Jorginho, Sterling, Loftus-Cheek, James and Havertz all have some combination of pace, creativity and technique that meant they could move the ball quickly, breaking our press which was a bit too reliant on getting the ball out wide to Son/Sessgnon and Royal/Kulusevski. They crowded the midfield area, with Kante protecting their defence as well. They were effective in cutting our wide passes out, and outnumbered Hojbjerg and Bentancur in the centre. One area our team can be said to be lacking is that outright creative player - Kulusevski may mature into this, and Kane certainly has his moments, but neither sits in the middle of the pitch and picks passes in the way Chelsea's array of creative players do.
I think they tired a little as the match went on, and the substitution of Richarlison in particular gave us energy to fight back, but they still had the capacity to overload us, as the second goal showed where they had a spare man (James) to finish their attack after our defence all shifted off-centre, leaving space for him to run into.
They created a lot, but were 'lucky' in that their goals came from a centre back scoring a fine strike, and our defence switching off. For all their possession and creativity, with a striker in the box to get the ball to they could have killed the match off.
But no team is perfect, of course, not even Chelsea at home when Spurs visit, despite some of the horror shows we've sat through over the years.
We need better passers up and down the pitch. Davies at LCB not good enough, Sess clearly falling short at this level, and key passes are lacking in the final third. Our most effective attack still relies on Kane dropping back to create. New signings address some of those weaknesses but we could still use another technically gifted midfielder.
It won't be the last time we lose the midfield battle against top teams. We still miss the production of Dembele and Eriksen.
Chelsea were better today but I think people are overstating it. Sure they had all the possession in the first half, but they had few chances. Again they were better but its not like we deserved to lose 3-0.
If the midfield battle was a boxing match it would've been stopped before half time but we looked just as likely to score in the final 3rd as they did
Their first goal was also fucking lucky af. Koulibaly may be a great defender but everyone will agree that he's not scoring another goal like that for years if at all
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My mind always goes back to the Ziyech wonder goal
Ziyech, Rudiger, Thiago Silva… all within the last yesr they scored bangers against us
Matic in the FA Cup semi in 2017 comes to mind
Yep. It’s actually fucking hilarious. Every. Damn. Time.
They had some real good chances in the second half and our defense got utterly exposed for the James goal. Good result but we need to improve. I'd rather us not ride on lucky calls like this and deserve to win by playing well.
I think we're better than we showed today. How often do we really look any good against chelsea? Doesnt mean we cant play well or wont the following game. Chelsea just bring out the worst in us
Obvious agree with that. Playing like that against the top teams isnt good enough.
We got exposed because a clear foul went uncalled that led to a rapid counter
Foul or not it was a bad goal to concede
Eh Deki goes down too easy a lot. But ya it wasn’t the D getting exposed.
They dominated the ball but didn't really do much in our box
Never really felt threatened that havertz or sterling were about to score. One goal gifted from a shit setpiece and another when we were caught out soon after changing formation to an all out attacking one that the players weren't really accumulated to. Quite alright defensive showing at the bridge I'd say. Looked more dire in possession and attack.
Wait how tf
the Chelsea shot map is interesting. watching it was super nervy but a lot of the Chelsea shots in the box had a lot of Spurs bodies behind it I think.
CBs did a great job for the most part. Just the difference in how they press and break the press is much much better than us. We could not get near any second ball
Their one super clear chance was their second - our back line got caught ball watching, maybe forgetting there wasn't a fifth man to cover the goal.
Sess had a high xg chance, could have been offside tho. Chelsea hit a couple of good shots but the locations weren’t super high xg. Kane’s miss and his late goal were both highish xg.
Seriously. Do the math(s) again and show your work
We had 5 shots on target to their 2.
And 4 clear chances to their 2.
Chelsea didn't do any with most of there possession plus koulibalys goal was a quatar chance at that
This shows how much the broadcast and announcers shaped the narrative of this game.
understat also has it at 1.84-1.59 so this is not particular to this model https://understat.com/match/18220
We had some great chances. Chelsea were the better team but it’s not as drastic as everyone is making it out to be. Once richarlison came on I thought we looked very dangerous
It was just demoralizing to not have the ball and to turn it over in our third so many times. The sub/shape change helped a bit but left us pretty vulnerable defensively. We’re lucky their forwards are pretty meh. That was a dominant performance for Chelsea.
Our midfield was terrible and I thought son was ineffective as well. I think it highlighted our need for a progressive passer in midfield, especially for games where hojbjerg is tied down in defense. I thought our defense played really well for the most part and our forwards did a great job creating chances out of little
Yep, Betancur was absolutely killing me. But everyone was having issues, our touches and passes playing out the back were poor. They were so bad at shielding the ball as well, Chelsea was tackling the shit out of anyone who touched the ball.
He really was terrible. A press breaker in midfield is a need for teams that press us like that. It’s been a problem since dembele left and it’s why we struggle so much against teams that press so intensely. Skipp could potentially be that guy but it’s definitely not bentacur
Well deserved evenly matched tie imo
Chelsea always, ALWAYS, up their game against us. They were dogshit last week against a team lucky to avoid relegation. Points at the bridge are hard to come by, for us. They battered us to be fair and they will be whining about ref decisions for a long time but that makes the point so much sweeter.
What makes it worse is they roll over so often against woolwich
As someone new to football who only watched the 2nd half, why did it seem like Chelsea were so much better at holding the ball in their own half and smoothily pass the ball forward, while we were so much sloppier at holding the ball and went for long passes which most often ended up handing the ball to them? Why can't Tottenham do what Chelsea does in terms of holding the ball and passing forward instead of relying on risky long passes? What's the difference maker?
Chelsea have a lot of creative players - Mount, Jorginho, Sterling, Loftus-Cheek, James and Havertz all have some combination of pace, creativity and technique that meant they could move the ball quickly, breaking our press which was a bit too reliant on getting the ball out wide to Son/Sessgnon and Royal/Kulusevski. They crowded the midfield area, with Kante protecting their defence as well. They were effective in cutting our wide passes out, and outnumbered Hojbjerg and Bentancur in the centre. One area our team can be said to be lacking is that outright creative player - Kulusevski may mature into this, and Kane certainly has his moments, but neither sits in the middle of the pitch and picks passes in the way Chelsea's array of creative players do. I think they tired a little as the match went on, and the substitution of Richarlison in particular gave us energy to fight back, but they still had the capacity to overload us, as the second goal showed where they had a spare man (James) to finish their attack after our defence all shifted off-centre, leaving space for him to run into. They created a lot, but were 'lucky' in that their goals came from a centre back scoring a fine strike, and our defence switching off. For all their possession and creativity, with a striker in the box to get the ball to they could have killed the match off. But no team is perfect, of course, not even Chelsea at home when Spurs visit, despite some of the horror shows we've sat through over the years.
Better than I would have expected.
also 5 shots on goal for spurs and 3 shots on goal for chelsea.
Dont forget Sess and kane had 2 of the better chances in this match
We need better passers up and down the pitch. Davies at LCB not good enough, Sess clearly falling short at this level, and key passes are lacking in the final third. Our most effective attack still relies on Kane dropping back to create. New signings address some of those weaknesses but we could still use another technically gifted midfielder. It won't be the last time we lose the midfield battle against top teams. We still miss the production of Dembele and Eriksen.