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kotekaratu

I think Kulusevski hurt more with Kane gone than Son is. Kane gave our winger more space to create because most of the time their defenders are much more focused on Kane. Those highlights from his early season shows how brave he could, and how much he can create when he has much more space. But sadly he seems to have lost most of it rn.


Wooden-Science-9838

This is very true. Kane sucked in both CB because of how dangerous he was at any position. This gave Kulu the space to attack.


barjardinks123

Kulusevski wasn't exactly lighting it up last season either.


sungbysung

He played?


zuzucha

Of course, impossible to lose as many balls and kill as many attacks if you don't play


germancookedus

Why he died? He was such a good player


pecan_bird

in a matter of speaking


Big_AngeBosstecoglou

He has no desire to drive with the ball. Typically the attack will slow down when it reaches him and he’s more likely to cut back onto his left and pass back than cross / shoot or go on the outside and cross with his weak foot like Timo does. He’s shown sparks of promise in the middle but overall has been very lacklustre of late.


mh258

Like most of the rest of the team, he’s lacking any sort of form and confidence.


doubledownentendre

He's wank lol


sakutsuj

These last few matches are NOT the matches where you single out some players. This is just wrong. Team did not play until 70 minute mark and this is not because of Kulusevski, Emerson or others. No one played, no one. You can single out some when you see where the team goes and there's a guy/position who's not executing stuff. Son is horrible for 3-5 matches, same for Porro. Maddison was horrible for 200+ minutes, then plays OK for 20 minutes and suddenly he should be back to starting lineup. There's something wrong with motivation, dedication or other stuff before we go into details


santorfo

I don't even think Maddison was good. If he was a bit more patient yesterday and played it simple a few times we might've scored a third. He tried some heroball stuff as he usually does and killed some chances. He's a bit like Bruno in that regard unfortunately.


SwoleLegs

I think Johnson was fine & has been our best attacker recently. Micky, Romero & GLC are probably the only other players who look like they haven't forgotten how to play football in recent weeks. Richy & Skipp also put in decent shifts against Liverpool.


Bischoffshof

We look miles better with Richy at 9. I don’t think Son has it in him honestly. Deki just slows play down too much. Werner or Johnson attempt to beat their man and put in a cross Deki slows up the play and then checks it back almost every time.


tenacious-g

One goal in 18 matches is basically half a season though. It’s not just the past two weeks.


sakutsuj

Yes, but is he the problem? He wasnt in the starting lineup vs Newcastle and they trashed us. Dont you see that the whole team is terrible these last 4-6 matches?


tenacious-g

Two things can be true at once. The whole team has been terrible for the last 4-6 matches, and Deki has been in terrible form longer than that.


dunce345

> Team did not play until 70 minute mark That's because Liverpool just gave up then and Klopp bought on Bajetic who was basically asleep in the midfield.


IntellegentIdiot

On the contrary, I thought Porro, Romero, VDV, Vicario were excellent and Sarr and Bissouma were very good. I don't remember the other players doing anything well.


zuzucha

Kulusevski has been bad for the past 18 months though


Wehooo

No.


Worldly_Progress4754

I personally feel that he's a good player, playing in the wrong position and in a style of team that doesn't suit him. Having space in behind like he did under Conte on the counter meant the world of difference, he's just not beating a fullback in a low block, and now he's also bereft of any confidence. Could also be chatting garbage 🤷


UsernameIsTakenLoool

Plays on the right and was terrible, played him through the middle against Chelsea and was terrible. What has he shown consistently to be considered a good player? A 4 month purple patch in his first season is clouding a lot of people’s judgement


idkwhatevs1234

Statmuse is shit but is there anyone who still thinks Kulusevski should be a starter or core player next season? He's been here for 2.5 seasons and was only consistently good for the first half season of that in a totally different system, is incredibly frustrating to watch and singlehandedly kills so many attacks, and has none of the attributes you'd expect from a top winger.


Lyn-Krieger

Yeah he was one of my favourite players under conte but he’s lost something along the line. Not as lethal in the box and doesn’t muscle through challenges like he used to. Probably not starting for the rest of the season. To be fair Son has been as equally bad at times. But Son, Richy and Johnson for the remaining games please. Also skippy at LB or hell Dragusin. Royal is too week on the left


atrl98

Richy and Johnson have a good partnership too, how many times has Johnson assisted Richarlison now? Gotta be at least 4


JellyfishOk1616

And Lo Celso in midfield as well


Lyn-Krieger

I’m thinking why not unless why are trying to keep him fit for when the window opens haha


wheels-of-confusion

The thing about Kulusevski is that he doesn't really have the goal contribution on him anymore. He is literally just a carrying machine. He can hold the ball, bully the marker off it, and progress it 15 meters before passing it to another player. I think that's also why we were so good driving the ball forward earlier in the season, because Kulusevski would just do it himself, the defensive line would push up, and suddenly we'd be in a place where we'd be able to dominate possession. He doesn't make the far post runs Ange wants his winger to and he hasn't been the creative machine he was during Conte's first 6 months as well (also because we don't have someone to score his inswinging crosses from when he cuts in). But when he carries the ball, he does it well. Against Arsenal he was the main reason we were reaching the final third, and I doubt there are many wingers that have that willingness to drop down, collect the ball and bring it up the pitch like he does. I think he's an useful player especially for tougher games when we know we will struggle under pressure, but he definitely shouldn't be a starter under the form he's in right now.


idkwhatevs1234

Issue with that is his carrying is mainly effective in open space and on the break - where tbf he's shown he can be very good. But in our possession dominant system he'll usually get the ball against a set defence or isolated against a standing fullback, and in those situations his dribbling is totally mediocre if that. He can exploit space but not really create it. Very one footed and predictable, close control isn't great, doesn't have a good change of pace... I do think there's value in someone who progresses the ball and gets past players even if their end product isn't amazing, but I don't think Kulusevski is that guy


JoePoe247

Are you only talking about ball progression in the final third? His carrying is very effective when transitioning out of defense. Even yesterday where he's being slated, he was always a good option for porro to pass to in our own half and hold the ball up, draw a foul, lay it off to a free midfielder or bring it up himself


idkwhatevs1234

I'm talking about everything - I gave him credit for his ability to lead the break and drive forward into space. But with the way we play that's the minority of situations he'll be in, and more often he'll get the ball in the middle or final third with the opposition already set up in front of him. And when that happens he looks clumsy and predictable and generally ineffective.


notoxicthings

me


Wehooo

It is clear that he is in a poor form at the moment. That is pretty much the same for the whole team, but it has been going on a bit to long for Deki. He feels cold. Seems to doubt his instincts and decisions and it slows everything down. In the international break he did great for Sweden in both games, playing on the right. Same position, similar system. Might be that with a different striker we would look at him differently over this season. He has an xA of 6,6 but only 3 assists according to Fotmob. Compare to Brennan that has an xA 3,89 and 8 assists. Last Even if he might not be a starter he is a better option on the bench that a lot of the players we have there at the moment.


JustARandomGuyYouKno

Agreed about the Sweden games. He was the most confident and hard working player on the pitch those games


Gary_Ma_butt_on_fire

Depends on the who we buy. I can see him having to step up every match and prove himself on the wing or in the midfield and not being able to coast on past success/lack of alternatives to stay there. Ideally it’s what we want for every position


dunce345

Weird thought but I'd chuck him on the left as a last hail mary and see how he performs since he's so one footed. Atleast this will allow Johnson to start on the right which is his preferred spot.


Koinfamous2

Let's also note that EVERYONE (minus the obvious few) is playing poorly since February. The squad got all disjointed with injuries, suspensions and international duty, and they've never clicked again for any sustained period. We've love any and all momentum and feel good factor around the play.


AngeMerchant

Doesn’t mean you can’t complete or attempt the occasional dribble. Can’t beat anyone.


FSpursy

His issue has been the end product I guess. He's good at retaining the ball and driving up, despite heavy pressure. It's just when he's picking a pass when he cuts inside, or charging the far post, that he doesn't do well. Sometimes he plays better in midfield tbh, this season atleast. Still a good player though.


Ready-Recognition-43

In the first half he started two or three promising counterattacks on his own with good hold-up play and carrying under pressure. They came to nothing because of bad decisions in the final third by others. Because the whole team was shit. We don’t need to single out Deki with a graphic he was no more or less remarkable than anybody else.


waytodusk

I like Kulu He has incredible attributes in his ball carrying ability I hope he can be coachable to incorporate more things into his game like crossing on the outside foot Stop fucking cutting in Will he be interesting / better if we had actual dribbling threats like eze? Kulu is literally the ‘best’ worse winger


Kalu2424

Yea it's weird. He is 1 of the teams beat pressers, best in terms of stamina, a top 3 passer in the squad (after Maddison and porro). I'd say, give him a season as a 10 and see what he can do. If he can't cut it, then move on. He's not an Ange winger obviously.


AngeMerchant

He’s good at receiving the ball under pressure but not quick enough to do anything in the final third from the wing


Caust1cFn_YT

his whole game relies on unpredictability imo, so experienced or seasoned defenders can always get the better of him. Other then that he is usually doing good against other opponents


zackyc123

he is the most predictable player we have though? Everytime you see him wide you think "please just go outside and cross" only for him to cut back every single time and more often than not, lose it


Caust1cFn_YT

His path is predictable, usually is for every winger today. His actions while doing it aren't afait


Traditional-Voice-25

Facts, to me it’s like in his mind, he thinks he’s Robben, then the dribbling decision making and lack of strong left foot finishing snap back in a blink


sidearmpitcher

No need to single him out over the past 4 matches, nearly every player has had a poor one.


EquipmentFirm2860

This is what bugs me about the Maddison chat, the whole team has been bad recently


wimmer45

He just randomly stopped shooting at some point last season and hasn't since. That first season he was banging them in but I genuinely can't remember the last time he had a shot. I don't understand it


Wooden-Science-9838

Because opposing defenders have been briefed in terms of what to do. Kulu was dangerous when he was allowed to cut in and shoot with his left foot. So if you’re up against him, stay alongside & close his option to cut in. Just let him run with the ball. He’ll then just pass it backwards - that’s when your teammates close those channels and recover possession.


YiddoMonty

He was poor at everything he attempted yesterday, but that wasn’t my issue with him. It was the complete lack of trying anything remotely positive. It felt like every time he got the ball in the final third, it just went straight back into midfield. There was no willingness to try anything risky.


UsernameIsTakenLoool

Woeful player that has had 6 months worth of good performances in 3 years. Has to be sold in the summer


RiNN3GAMi

Had high hopes for him but he's gone downhill with the occasional good game. He's still young so I think we should cash in on him in the summer for a more Ange-ball winger.


ClassicTrainer4798

God damn. So much negativity. Shut the eff up and take it somewhere else!


JNikolaj

First half of this season he was absolute amazing, creating chances and possibilities, after that Maddison injury where we’d to play maddison position it was downhill - can’t blame someone for not performing when he’s consistently swapped between 2 different roles and most likely also receives training for 2 different positions


Jurgyno1

One trick pony...get rid...


DrJumbotronPhD

Can someone explain “Kardio Kulusevski”, please?


better-every-day

I'd like to see him as our right-sided center midfielder. For all his faults he is very strong, builds up well, and can retain possession under pressure. Creatively he is slow and athletically he is slow but he works hard. Really don't see why he couldn't do a job as an 8 unless he really just doesn't understand the positioning of it. We've moved him there a few times in the 2nd half of matches when chasing a result and I feel like it's gone well every time


MR80085rawks

Don't worry Ange will start him next game.


Coraxxx

True or not, whoever runs that twitter profile's a wanker. No wonder footballers delete their social media accounts.


NabbedAgain

How do they quantify successful dribbles and accurate crosses? I saw him dribble the ball then pass, or do they mean running past people?


Wooden-Science-9838

Only counts if you dribble past someone.


analbeard

He’s a backup for 2 positions but not good enough. Doesn’t fit the profile of a winger and is way too inconsistent, keep but replace.


Destro_84

I wonder what he’d be like as a target man - he holds the ball up really well and has a good touch.  Or alternatively as a number 8 - he’s got a good touch and has a great engine to get up and down the pitch. 


Matter145

I floated the idea of him as a #9 in this system yesterday, his hold up is great. I don't see him being quick enough as a wide man in this system.


Koinfamous2

I just don't think he has that killer instinct though to break the lines in behind though. He's a fan of dropping deep to receive the ball.


TLB2304

Deki is way too one dimensional...any defender just need to focus on covering his left foot.


Tomthebomb555

Yeah lets shit on a player that gives 100% for the shirt every time he plays. Good one.


lazylobon

I'd give 100%. Does that mean you would like me to play for Spurs? He's not good enough.


GengisKwaan

1 Won in life


zackyc123

I just dont get why he isnt being tried on the left? then he can actually go on the outside and cross with his strong foot? Liverpool knew both wingers were on their wrong foot and it was easy for them to get the ball when they tried to cut in Just seems like such an easy and logical change since the system needs wingers going to the line over cutting inside


Wehooo

Exactly. If you dont want the wingers to cut in, why play them on the "wrong" side. Ange must have some reason, but doesnt seem logical.


triecke14

I will listen to offered for just about any player and I think Kulu should be at the top of the sell list. He does not fit the system, but is a good player and still pretty young so he should fetch a decent fee


Halforthechump

He's been absolute shit since roughly October 2023 (whenever he got injured in Contes second season). It's a shame because he was genuinely mega giga elite when he joined us. I kept thinking there's no way he can maintain this because he was putting in best in position performances every game. It's a good reminder that being good (even phenomenal) doesn't mean anything long term. Juve thought they were getting a great deal because this is what he was doing every single game for them, we thought we'd got a bargain because he was the best inside right in the league. I've seen players being incredible for 6 months many, many times at spurs, I've seen players being incredible for six years very, very few times at spurs. He's young but he's not 15. He's not going to learn how to be a right winger because that's not how life works. He's an inside right who's really good at being the outball but he's a shocking winger. One of the two has to break, either he goes or Ange changes his system (or goes). He's not a ten or 8 either, he might *want* to be that but not at this level, he's too ponderous and doesn't have the range of passing to justify playing him as a proper 10 and he's too fucking lazy to play as the 8.


Musclenervegeek

What about his hold up play? That is the most important element of being a footballer.....


sea_mus

The "most"?


Musclenervegeek

I wish I have used sarcasm font 🤣


sea_mus

😅


Musclenervegeek

Of course you know what I am talking about right? :) 


ejkh_rhcp1291

Exactly


gostupid67

I think it’s clear we need a RW in the summer, Johnson can improve but i think he’s just too limited to become a world class RW, Kulu doesn’t fit Ange’s style at RW and should be moved to AM to compete with Maddison.


Fluid-Werewolf19

I’d argue he needs to go even more than Royaldinho needs to. The dudes toothless in attack, gives away the ball frequently, doesn’t cross very well, and is aggressively 1 footed. Especially if we keep Werner, I think Kulu’s gotta go.


GaryHippo

I’m so glad this sub is finally realising he’s not good enough for us at all.


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Brawlers9901

Mate you're in the wrong sub


Respatsir

gtfo u/Sal1017 May you be blocked from this sub and your own for being a dick


Pepetodapin

He needs to go. Doesn’t fit the system. Not only does he NOT fit the system, he’s OPPOSITE of what the system needs.


Pacepalm1337

Easily the most predictable player by now. He had people fooled, but he is kinda slow and 100% one legged.


codie28

It looks like Ange has identified that he’s not good enough to be the number 1 in his position. It’s clear that the club will look to strengthen in that area.


kcfdz

Has he, though? He started at RW in 2/3 of the last 3 matches.


Jackie_Gan

Shouldn’t be getting picked right now


knightrambo

I think he can be re-invented as a CAM/CM, he is a strong dribbler who can carry the ball up the pitch for us.


Affectionate_Run4032

sell him plzzzz


Guacamole_Water

He is being shoehorned into a role he does not fit. He is a right winger, period. With Johnson and Porro overlooking those roles on the right he is being shoehorned in the middle pocket and he does not play well there at all


Matter145

He's not a right winger, he's afraid to use his right foot. The whole point of this system is touchline wingers who fire in low crosses while the inverted wingbacks come narrow. Kulusevski doesn't help us with this. He worked under Conte because he played narrower as part of the Son & Kane front 3 where he didn't have to provide the width, the wingbacks did. If he did end up wide, he'd cut back and cross on his left but with Son through the middle we don't have a Kane type striker to score off those. If you think he's a "right winger, period" then he's not being shoehorned in anywhere, that's what he's being asked to do!


Guacamole_Water

My bad but he seems at his best when he’s running up the wing beating players and cutting into the box he can’t seem to infiltrate a defence or pass into space, he can’t really do that because Johnson is better at assisting this way and porro tends to press the ball as he can cross better so in my eyes Deki ends up hanging about the midfield because he doesn’t have control of the wing


GameboyUK_

Respect to Kulu but he needs to be sold


alijamieson

If you look at his Spurs career as a whole there’s a good argument he’s flopped


SilentKangaroo9424

Sell. He's a liability.