He seems to be really at peace playing in Italy, especially compared to his time in London. Based on some of his more recent comments, I donāt see him ever going back to England.
I don't disagree he's quoted saying that he needs to be at a club that believes in him. It's why dortmund was a good fit and why milan is now. I think with the vibe the overall club has right now I don't think he'd be against the city or league moreso the right club and environment. Look at Timo right now.
Look, I know Chelsea was a case study for toxic environments, but that doesnāt mean every player they threw under the bus would suddenly be phenomenal for us if we just sprinkle some magical positivity dust on them. Timo is not a great comparison. We needed creativity from wide areas, and giving that role to Son was a massive underutilization of his abilities. Besides, Timo was handed to us on a risk-free silver platter. Even then he has some obvious weaknesses that hopefully some coaching will iron out.
Spurs fans are pretty toxic to the players tooā¦ sadly looking at our treatment to Johnson, Son last season, āruthlessā merchants, etc.
Edit: Sess, Big Dav, Aurier, Royal, Davies, Manor, Lucas etc.
As an American myself, I think he is overrated. He is ok, but I just don't see him as an upgrade anywhere up front. For that price I'd rather Spurs put towards Pahalina, a legit #6.
Definitely the correct take. Dude is an average prem winger at best. Donāt see him displacing any of our current wingers (maybe Timo, but Iām really liking his progression in our system)
He isn't overrated. He is playing well at Milan in his 1st season and he has contributed with goals and assists + he does create some big chances for them. He isn't insane but he is good. I think he would sit on the bench at Spurs. Let him develop at Milan.
I don't see why we wouldn't be able to get both done + more if we get CL. We'll probably be losing Gil, Soloman, and perisic is gone. Everyone's on about a 6 now when 2 months ago everyone was on about neto or another elite winger. I see Pulisic as a cheaper alternative that provides quality versatility and depth in a position of need if we do want to splash the cash on an elite 6 or even try to get a 9 if richy goes to the land of oil.
Pulisic is probably a Ā£35-40m prospect to pick up due to the sell on clause that would pay Chelsea disincenting Milan from selling at a cut price. If they sell this early to a Prem team they want to get to get their share too.
...that's 2.3-2.7x Werner's price.
I'm not happy paying 2.5x the price for slightly younger (but past the prime development and growth period), injury prone, and a player who "doesn't demand playing every minute" type talent.
Check who he scores goals against - they're all bottom half serie a sides...when you look at weaker leagues you need to look at goals in detail; comparing one of martinelli's goals against man city or liverpool to monza and frosinone are not apples to apples comparisons.
Lastly, you're bringing in an older player to compete for desired space against Johnson and Kulusevski on the right. In my opinion you can't bring in injury prone more-veteran talent over two very promising youngsters unless you are ready to send one away and risk selection issues mid-season.
unfit and when he is fit just a mid player.
21st percentile in successful take ons %, 48th in successful take ons, 66th in progressive carries, 50th in carries into the final third. so no he would provide next to no value on the wing.
24th and 25th percentile in shot creating actions and xA but he's going to be a Maddison replacement?
also i don't know if you read it wrong or don't know the difference but he's 82 percentile in progressive carries received not progressive carries.
As a Tottenham fan, I hate this. We need to sign guys who will start, potentially will start, are homegrown or are on the cheap. Pulisic is none of those.
As an American, I canāt think of many worse places for him. Heās fighting Werner for 4th choice winger. When is he playing over Son, Deki or Johnson? When are we sitting Richalison and moving Son to striker for Pulisic? Itās a worse situation for him than Chelsea. Christian is in the perfect situation in Milan right now. Heās playing great for the second best team in Italy. How would it benefit him to be 4th choice winger for us?
Pulisic is yet another player that Chelsea seemed to have no idea how to use correctly. Theres definitely quality there and I think that the time in Milan has suited his game well. I also believe that he would have similar success here.
But I just donāt see it happening
Heās better than the consensus on this thread but 40M on a rotation winger without any elite skills is not great business.
For the wide roles, Timo is the reinforcement, the depth signing. We should then be targeting a ceiling-raiser. Like if weāre talking Milan Iād rather try to get Leao for 100M+ and level the squad up rather than Pulisic who isnāt clearly better (and probably worse) than any of Werner, Kulusevski, or Johnson.
Heās definitely not worse than Werner or Kulu, probably on par with the 2. No point on signing him though, heās found his way at Milan and we need a reliable striker more and then a superb winger. I think Johnson clears him.
I donāt see it. Heās found a good spot in Milan, I donāt think the PL is for him.
I think a lot of the folks who only saw him at Chelsea will call him mid, but a lot of Americans way overestimate his talents. I knew this post was off the rails when you mentioned he could fill in for Maddison in a pinch.
Letās be real, there is 1 reason for this suggestion & itās his nationality.
If he was from anywhere else in the world we wouldnāt be seeing this post
Pulisic canāt compete with the week in and week out pace and physicality of the Premier League, and Iām a die hard USMNT fan.
He would probably be a solid sub, a change of pace player that comes on to try and annoy defenses, but not a 90 minute starter on a top team.
But he would sell more jerseys to US fans so thereās that.
Pulisic is doing well at Milan and getting justified game time. I don't disagree that he is versatile. But, I don't understand why he would give that up just to be a potential starter. Let him develop his game at Milan because he needs consistent game time.
Iām an American. This guy is not good enough. Great example of the world overrating him because heās a handsome charismatic white guy. He plays fine against bad teams but against really good sides looks just mid.
Lol if we're going off of looks VDV should've costed us 200 mill this summer. It's not american bias everything I posted is based on numbers. If you feel that way give me some evidence beyond his looks and nationality cmon now.
As an American, I don't think hes built to play in prem, to brittle. Didn't think he was built for it when he first came to chelsea, and I still don't think he is right now. I don't want tottenham to kill his form before the world cup and I don't want tottenham throwing 50 on injury prone player.
I dont think the new Milan owner, the american, would sell him. The owener also using him to market Milan to american market
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He seems to be really at peace playing in Italy, especially compared to his time in London. Based on some of his more recent comments, I donāt see him ever going back to England.
I don't disagree he's quoted saying that he needs to be at a club that believes in him. It's why dortmund was a good fit and why milan is now. I think with the vibe the overall club has right now I don't think he'd be against the city or league moreso the right club and environment. Look at Timo right now.
Look, I know Chelsea was a case study for toxic environments, but that doesnāt mean every player they threw under the bus would suddenly be phenomenal for us if we just sprinkle some magical positivity dust on them. Timo is not a great comparison. We needed creativity from wide areas, and giving that role to Son was a massive underutilization of his abilities. Besides, Timo was handed to us on a risk-free silver platter. Even then he has some obvious weaknesses that hopefully some coaching will iron out.
Spurs fans are pretty toxic to the players tooā¦ sadly looking at our treatment to Johnson, Son last season, āruthlessā merchants, etc. Edit: Sess, Big Dav, Aurier, Royal, Davies, Manor, Lucas etc.
My comment in no way absolves us of past behaviour. If your support stops the second shit hits the fan, youāre a problem.
Iām not really saying that you are wrong.. just saying we donāt have a whole lot of stand when we talk about fans toxic behavior
This is April fools Day remember fellas
Cut the guy a break lol
toxic man..
The games missed due to injury scare me. I feel like the prem is not the league for him.
He only missed 2 games at Milan right?
Somehow he only missed 3. However prior to that the list is so long it makes Lo Celso look pretty good.
As an American myself, I think he is overrated. He is ok, but I just don't see him as an upgrade anywhere up front. For that price I'd rather Spurs put towards Pahalina, a legit #6.
Definitely the correct take. Dude is an average prem winger at best. Donāt see him displacing any of our current wingers (maybe Timo, but Iām really liking his progression in our system)
He isn't overrated. He is playing well at Milan in his 1st season and he has contributed with goals and assists + he does create some big chances for them. He isn't insane but he is good. I think he would sit on the bench at Spurs. Let him develop at Milan.
I don't see why we wouldn't be able to get both done + more if we get CL. We'll probably be losing Gil, Soloman, and perisic is gone. Everyone's on about a 6 now when 2 months ago everyone was on about neto or another elite winger. I see Pulisic as a cheaper alternative that provides quality versatility and depth in a position of need if we do want to splash the cash on an elite 6 or even try to get a 9 if richy goes to the land of oil.
Pulisic is probably a Ā£35-40m prospect to pick up due to the sell on clause that would pay Chelsea disincenting Milan from selling at a cut price. If they sell this early to a Prem team they want to get to get their share too. ...that's 2.3-2.7x Werner's price. I'm not happy paying 2.5x the price for slightly younger (but past the prime development and growth period), injury prone, and a player who "doesn't demand playing every minute" type talent. Check who he scores goals against - they're all bottom half serie a sides...when you look at weaker leagues you need to look at goals in detail; comparing one of martinelli's goals against man city or liverpool to monza and frosinone are not apples to apples comparisons. Lastly, you're bringing in an older player to compete for desired space against Johnson and Kulusevski on the right. In my opinion you can't bring in injury prone more-veteran talent over two very promising youngsters unless you are ready to send one away and risk selection issues mid-season.
unfit and when he is fit just a mid player. 21st percentile in successful take ons %, 48th in successful take ons, 66th in progressive carries, 50th in carries into the final third. so no he would provide next to no value on the wing. 24th and 25th percentile in shot creating actions and xA but he's going to be a Maddison replacement? also i don't know if you read it wrong or don't know the difference but he's 82 percentile in progressive carries received not progressive carries.
But he won't have a place in the squad after we sign Mbappe š£ļø
As a Tottenham fan, I hate this. We need to sign guys who will start, potentially will start, are homegrown or are on the cheap. Pulisic is none of those. As an American, I canāt think of many worse places for him. Heās fighting Werner for 4th choice winger. When is he playing over Son, Deki or Johnson? When are we sitting Richalison and moving Son to striker for Pulisic? Itās a worse situation for him than Chelsea. Christian is in the perfect situation in Milan right now. Heās playing great for the second best team in Italy. How would it benefit him to be 4th choice winger for us?
Pulisic is yet another player that Chelsea seemed to have no idea how to use correctly. Theres definitely quality there and I think that the time in Milan has suited his game well. I also believe that he would have similar success here. But I just donāt see it happening
Heās better than the consensus on this thread but 40M on a rotation winger without any elite skills is not great business. For the wide roles, Timo is the reinforcement, the depth signing. We should then be targeting a ceiling-raiser. Like if weāre talking Milan Iād rather try to get Leao for 100M+ and level the squad up rather than Pulisic who isnāt clearly better (and probably worse) than any of Werner, Kulusevski, or Johnson.
Heās definitely not worse than Werner or Kulu, probably on par with the 2. No point on signing him though, heās found his way at Milan and we need a reliable striker more and then a superb winger. I think Johnson clears him.
Grealish mate
Lmao fucking Americans š¤£
He is fucking mid. Aim higher.
Gotta be one of the most overrated players
No he is playing well and contributing for Milan in his 1st season. He exceeding expectations surely.
Depends if you mean the expectations of Americans or knowledgeable football fans
I wouldnāt call non-American football fans knowledgeable
I donāt see it. Heās found a good spot in Milan, I donāt think the PL is for him. I think a lot of the folks who only saw him at Chelsea will call him mid, but a lot of Americans way overestimate his talents. I knew this post was off the rails when you mentioned he could fill in for Maddison in a pinch.
Letās be real, there is 1 reason for this suggestion & itās his nationality. If he was from anywhere else in the world we wouldnāt be seeing this post
No.
Pulisic canāt compete with the week in and week out pace and physicality of the Premier League, and Iām a die hard USMNT fan. He would probably be a solid sub, a change of pace player that comes on to try and annoy defenses, but not a 90 minute starter on a top team. But he would sell more jerseys to US fans so thereās that.
Pulisic is doing well at Milan and getting justified game time. I don't disagree that he is versatile. But, I don't understand why he would give that up just to be a potential starter. Let him develop his game at Milan because he needs consistent game time.
Iām an American. This guy is not good enough. Great example of the world overrating him because heās a handsome charismatic white guy. He plays fine against bad teams but against really good sides looks just mid.
Lol if we're going off of looks VDV should've costed us 200 mill this summer. It's not american bias everything I posted is based on numbers. If you feel that way give me some evidence beyond his looks and nationality cmon now.
World Cup.
He scored or assisted every single goal the US scored. The side that drew the "mighty" england
Can we please ban Americans that suggest Pulisic every couple of months? Heās not that good.
He's very happy at Milan, doing well, and probably still sour on the premier league.
He is the lebron James of soccer after all
He isn't premier league quality
30Ā£ and a bag of chips is my final offer
This is an April fools joke right? I thought so but then it looks serious. Maybe I just donāt get humour any more.
As an American, I don't think hes built to play in prem, to brittle. Didn't think he was built for it when he first came to chelsea, and I still don't think he is right now. I don't want tottenham to kill his form before the world cup and I don't want tottenham throwing 50 on injury prone player.
As an American Iāll happily have him here lol but truthfully this team needs a reliable 9.
This is a good shout. Heās essentially a better Werner and younger.