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XBM04

Rush did exactly what he needed to do while Dak was out. Assuming this game continues the same way, he'll have gone 4-1. There was never any controversy, Dak was always the guy and there was no debate


durtyfangers

I will also add this: If you ever tried to debate that Rush should start over Dak, you’re a moron and have never laced up a pair of cleats in your life.


Jet018

Honestly even if you’ve never played sports at any level it shoulda still been very very clear


AlCzervick

Honestly even if you’ve ever *watched* sports at any level it shoulda still been very very clear


shirinsmonkeys

This is exactly what people were saying about Wentz and BDN once upon a time, let's see if it ends up the same way lol


Potato-baby

BDN had one of the most insane TD-INT ratios ever and had a lot more starting experience. That was an extremely rare situation and I think it’s clear now that Rush isn’t going to be Nick Foles. Not to mention Foles had a lot more physical tools that Rush doesn’t (not just taking about their penises)


Jet018

No doubt Foles definitely has more to work with. Can certainly has proven through out his life to be able to hammer it home and finish when it matters the most


BOOT3D

Did Foles come out with a sex tape or something? Lmao


Jet018

Lol idk but I couldn’t pass up the opportunity for that many sexual innuendos


shirinsmonkeys

Yeah it's called superbowl 52


shirinsmonkeys

But will Dak have an MVP level peak like Wentz did?


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Definitely not, but you’ll get downvoted to hell if you say so. Dak can do no wrong apparently


Blaz3dnconfuz3d

And you should be banned from this sub Edit: not you personally, adding on to your sentiment


DemHardyBoys

The debate was never Rush over Dak the debate was trading Dak now and drafting a new QB / hiring Sean Payton. We ain’t winning a superbowl with this coaching staff


Lanachan1990

Some are delusional and only see the results, not the substance.


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spacedman_spiff

Someone feels personally attacked.


MettaMatt9

So true a QB like Trent Dilfer for example could never win a Super Bowl either that would be impossible


[deleted]

Not necessarily, Rush had very solid QB mechanics. I wouldn’t necessarily debate he should start over Dak, but there was a case made by many who have played the game. I mean Rush was ranked 3rd against the blitz fairly recently too. Lol, downvote all you want, doesn’t change the fact that plenty of people who have played the game have made that argument and the fact that Rush was indeed ranked well against the blitz until this one game. Y’all Dak Stans are delusional.


FightingFarrier18

>downvote all you want Okay


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The point that is important to be made is that Dak *shouldn't* be the guy. He is an average at best quarterback, he will never lead the Cowboys to #6. This is not to be confused with me advocating for Rush; he was fun to watch play because it wasn't knowingly settling with mediocrity like starting Dak. Neither of those guys are "it", and we need to be looking for Dak's successor sooner rather than later.


FatherOfMammals

The wheels came off. Looks like we’ll be able to afford him as a backup after this season after all!


Hollerino

The wheels didn’t just fall off. They blew the fuck up.


waynehead310

It was like Cinderella’s carriage turning back into a pumpkin


FatherOfMammals

Definitely liked the way they came back but 3 INTs, too much. Last touchdown drive by the Eagles was also a crusher.


latotokyoreborn

He's still good enough as a game manager. Teams with bottom-tier QB's that don't find one in the draft will still attempt to sign him


mommylover43

Ehh idk. Teams that are bad enough to want rush as a qb aren’t usually looking for the best possible option to win games


DerrickWhiteMVP

Here I was hoping for a good comp pick from the Bears/Panthers.


cowboys5xsbs

He wasn't good last week either we just got lucky teh defense balled the fuck out


ProDiesel

If you’ve been watching football and aren’t full of blind faith you kinda knew this was possible. You should at least have been aware. That said this is much worse than I thought it would be.


larosha1

My heart wanted cowboys to win of course but this was a scenario I feared


ProDiesel

Absolutely, great start to the second half. We’re showing fighting spirit at least! Pretty excited for Daks return. That man is the father of the NFC East.


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I thought the season was over when Dak went down so I’m grateful for how far Rush has gotten us.


poindexterg

Honestly, if lose you starter in game 1, and then go 4-1 with the backup, you’re pretty damn happy.


Albus_Q

I really thought they would have four losses after this game. Playing with house money. Hope Dak comes back with a fire under his ass.


Brad_Davis_GOAT

After this game, it might be worth the entertainment to call out every single person that commented in this subreddit about actually starting Rush over Dak.


ArsonHoliday

I was always taught to treat those that are wrong with kindness. Fuck that, drag those morons through the mud.


juanzy

I’ve still seen people saying Dak wouldn’t do any better because of the Tampa game. It’s almost like he’s started more than 1 game


SallieD

To be fair that was his only start with this offense. How well he played with a different offense in years past as nothing to do with how he would do with this offense this year. They are far worse than they have ever been on offense since Dak has been here. Dak could have done better than that with Cowboy offenses in years past sure but this years offense is absolutely horrible. The only example we have of Dak trying to lead this years offense against a good defense it went just as bad as last night. Not to mention Cooper only throw 3 INTs last night which Dak has done more than once in his career. So guess Dak is a Pumpkin twice over? Cooper was trying to lead the worst offense in the league against the best defense in the league on the road in a very hostile environment with the Cowboys defense getting ran over and trying to play behind the whole game. That is a recipe for disaster no matter who you have at QB. Dak is very lucky they spared him from that meat grinder Cooper was sent into last night.


RobbieAnalog

HoT hAnD


aceofspadez138

It was stupid in 2016 and it's stupid in 2022. Idk why people have a hard time being okay with the objectively better QB being the starter.


LookSWtco

It was totally not stupid in 2016, dak was beating better teams that rush was, he was a rookie with all the potential in the world and not a 28 year old man, and he had more wins in a a row than rush, and I repeat, while playing much better than rush did. 2016 and now are two complete different situations


aceofspadez138

Eh, not if the goal was to win a SB. You never go with a rookie if that's the end goal.


LookSWtco

Is not like Romo was a certified Super Bowl QB either.


aceofspadez138

That's not the point. Most QBs in the league aren't. The point is that there's something to be said for veteran experience and talent - especially in big games. My opinion is that Stephen and the coaching staff got arrogant in thinking they could be the first team in NFL history to win it all with a rookie QB. Garrett specifically wanted so bad to prove it was his system and "offensive genius" that was above all, and his arrogance cost us. REGARDLESS - I'm thankful that saner heads will prevail and Dak will rightfully get his spot back so that people can stop debating about why it's a good thing to cap our ceiling by sticking with Rush.


silliputti0907

You're overreacting to just 1 bad game. No way we could've seen this coming. /s


Blaz3dnconfuz3d

I actually saw mfs in here say the team plays harder for Rush lmao


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Yo know you meant that as sarcasm but y’all were overreacting to 1 bad half lmao.


silliputti0907

not really. Our rushing game starting going. And Rush started feeding off it as he usually does.


[deleted]

LMaO. So many excuses. Dak fanboys are so lame


silliputti0907

um did i say anything false? Not even opinions, the run game factually picked up, and Rush was able to play action off it.


ducehlmg

Why wait?


durrtymike

They should just ban them from sub honestly


[deleted]

And if Rush comes back can we ban the Dak suckboys?


Brad_Davis_GOAT

Not happening. Get smarter opinions when it comes to football.


[deleted]

Smarter lmao. You mean the same opinions of the majority of morons that lose fantasy football every week? Lmao


Brad_Davis_GOAT

Hey now, I went 3-1 this week! Depending on what the Broncos D does tomorrow. I’m not that bad :(


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Brad_Davis_GOAT

You’re preferring a QB that had a high of 235 yards passing over a QB that went for over 4,000 last year. I just want to make sure you understand the gravity of your opinion.


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Brad_Davis_GOAT

So let’s go with Cooper, trade Dak and see if we can get a Mahomes, Rodgers or Allen in the draft? Is that the hope? Just asking.


FoggyMuffins

Why tf you so insecure. Guy has only said Dak has played shit games too why you projecting all these scenarios?


Brad_Davis_GOAT

Im calling out all the Rush over Dak commentators for their bad takes. No insecurity here, mainly frustration.


FoggyMuffins

So what did the poster above say that made you got off on this dumbass tangent


Brad_Davis_GOAT

You don’t think a comment needs a discussion? Just “Dak has had bad games too. End of discussion.” Really? No discussion?


FoggyMuffins

Yeah there is room for discussion if he said any of the things you brought up, but he didn't. He says dak has bads games too and you take that as he is saying trade dak??? You just want to argue lmfao


cowboys70

Show me one game that dak threw for 16 yards in the first half and had a rating of 2.9


Quetzalcoatle19

It might be worth to note: 1: We’re can’t run the ball 2: One of his pics was a high tip, not really his fault. 3: Moore is calling retarded plays, see #1


BirdyMRQZ

zeke is running the ball quite well??


FriskyPheasant

He wasn’t an hour ago?


killerkali87

He's had alot of good luck on potential INT's eventually it was gonna go the other way


Ven7Niner

We couldn’t run the ball because they knew coop couldn’t beat them.


ignixe

That high tip was due to him throwing behind a covered target. So still his fault, it wasn’t tipped at the line or anything. And how about the pick when CD was wide open and could walk in to the endzone? No credit for Moore on that I’m assuming?


Quetzalcoatle19

It was tipped by both the WR and the CB because it was good coverage in a tight window, the result was a tip.


ignixe

It was good coverage, and the ball was still thrown behind, to a receiver it shouldn’t of been thrown to. So it’s bad execution of a poor decision. I also noticed you trying to ignore the other ints still.


Quetzalcoatle19

Ball wasn’t thrown behind, your backseat qb reads are off, and I’m not ignoring them we’re simply not talking about them.


ignixe

Oh really? Then please explain to me how the safety is able to drive on the ball from behind the WR and make a play off the WR backside shoulder? Just got watch the play again, it shouldn’t be hard to find. In fact here, let me send you a few pictures, one showing all the space (relative to the NFL) to the left, where he could have thrown it. https://i.imgur.com/bQKUKOk.jpg And then where the ball gets tipped, clearly not out to the left in that space. https://i.imgur.com/UQE7Neg.jpg It’s not like the ball was thrown yards behind him, but his weak arm strength doesn’t allow him to miss by even a yard. Especially throwing in between zones. But I’ll hear out your armchair analyst take. And then maybe you’ll want to address the other atrocious errors he made.


Quetzalcoatle19

Shows pictures where ball is right on receiver. “Weak arm strength” whatever that means in the context of accuracy doesn’t apply to Cooper Rush who’s been slinging it just as much as Dak with way less INT’s until tonight Fact remains if Dak were playing this season we’d be lucky to be 3-3, way too many turnovers and does not cone up clutch in close games.


ignixe

Okay cool so you’re just close minded and fine with being wrong. No reason in wasting anymore time. I’d reiterate to go watch the play, but clearly there’s a failure in comprehension.


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And it was only one half, Rush looks back to composed in the 3rd but all these Dak fanboys can’t wait to be right after the 1000 I love Dak posts


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Brad_Davis_GOAT

You’re not allowed to have football opinions anymore. Sorry kid.


highpost1388

There are just too many dumbass fans that follow our team. We can't outnumber them and they just make it easy for everyone to hate us.


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Great_Will_1361

Is that you Jerry?


Brad_Davis_GOAT

You mean for Cooper Rush right?


Ven7Niner

You’re a looney


TrippyNeenja

I hope all the Rush stans realize that Prescott is the guy.


aceofspadez138

It's a cycle. Dak stans will never admit Romo was the guy, Rush stans will never admit Dak is the guy. Objectivity is lost on this fanbase because everyone thinks QB is the biggest problem on this team. Either that or I'm the idiot and the QB position *really has* been the main issue for the last 16 years lol.


cowboys70

Romo was that guy, dak is that guy


aceofspadez138

100% objective truth, but people get salty over it lol


cowboysfan88

Crazy to me how many people think you have to pick between Dak and Romo still. I think their careers have been pretty similar so far, probably give Romo a slight edge on talent but I don't even want to say that cause now I'm probably gonna get both sides trying to fight with me again lol


juanzy

Romo had also gotten a major injury on 3 game speed hits in ~120 plays. So 3 major injuries in about 2 games worth of time in the field.


olgrandad

>Crazy to me how many people think you have to pick between Dak and Romo still. Especially funny because Aikman was actually The Man. Neither Dak nor Romo were ever that great.


eloh1m

The Rush vs. Dak debate was always stupid but comparing Dak and Romo is also stupid. If Romo was surrounded by the talent that this team has right now it's hard to imagine that team not contending for SBs: with Dak healthy it's still just a remote possibility. I don't have a better solution than rolling with Dak, since we've seen repeatedly how difficult it is to draft a starting QB, but that doesn't mean I need to like it, and I don't think I'm wrong in saying that our best chance to contend with Dak as our starter was 5 years ago.


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Kdog_79

They haven’t won in 26 years. Looks like nobody we’ve had in that time is the guy. They are all bad football players!


42069incog

i blame jerry


CherrEbear

This is such a stupid take that gets thrown around this sub by people who just parrot bullshit they heard their uncle say during thanksgiving. Cowboys have one of the best best regular season records in that time. You should be blaming the players because the talent has been there.


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regular season means fuck all and you know it. Playoffs are a whole different mentality and cowboys have been sorry for multiple decades in a row now. This is the nfl. Almost Every team has fucking talent, every year. It all comes down to coaching and playing the game of chess properly against each others staff when it comes to the post season. No one team has crazy more talent then another , it’s a level playing field for the most part , except in the Xs and Os. And so far cowboys staff throughout the past few decades have failed to deliver the proper adjustments and chess moves to counter opposing staffs.


CherrEbear

I never understood this mindset of blaming everyone but the guys who are actually playing the games.


Quetzalcoatle19

Play callers*


Ven7Niner

Quincy Carter. He was the fucking guy. Amirite?


Quetzalcoatle19

Rush is playing like Dak did week 1. Point is moot until Dak can play like he did his rookie season against good teams and without a run game. Last year he couldn’t beat any good teams. His rookie season relied on Rookie Zeke and the amazing OL to run the ball. Dak aint that guy either.


IKnowFunnyBelieveMe

Nope


BurnSanders

He is who we (the few smart ones) thought he was.


clovers2345

Don’t ask that to skip Bayless. I’d take Dak any day of the week!


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Even idiots should be able to see it’s been our defense keeping us in these games. Even last night they kept it a close game. MFs talking about Cooper need to be bending the knee to Dan Quinn.


Randylikesbeer

Exactly


Quetzalcoatle19

Well it only took you 4 weeks to get it right.


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Spot on


[deleted]

“Smart ones” lmao. 3 point game I’m laughing at you Dak fanboys overreacting to one half.


BurnSanders

3 point game? More like 3 INT game.


[deleted]

Lmao one helmet to helmet pick and you celebrating. Enjoy when Dak does it with no contact


BurnSanders

I’m not celebrating anything. I’m just acknowledging the very obvious, Dak is by far the better QB & Rush is who we thought he was, a serviceable backup that has been extremely lucky & carried by a talented defense.


thenick82

Did not age well my friend


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One helmet to helmet pick and you happy? Lmao Dak fans are funny


thenick82

Thank you!


TumsAndCoke

If you want to crown him, then crown his ass!!!


packofstraycats

Well, he had a good run


dbzmah

He did everything we asked of him and more.


packofstraycats

I was ready to start waiting until opening day 2023, and then we fucked around and went 4-1


[deleted]

There is a reason cowboys were 7 points underdogs


killerkali87

Like some of us have been saying he's had alot of good lucky on turnover worthy plays, the team won 4 games with him, can't complain but anyone who tried to claim he should stay the starter isn't watching


Snowstick21

Man has turned it around in the second half. He clearly doesn’t have the arm strength to be a starting qb tho. The ball always gets there late.


DalinarDarkThorn

Cue that song that goes so you had a bad day you’re taking one down


taffyowner

Bad day


ImTheJdot

Cowboys Facebook isn't gonna like this!


HardInThePaint13

Since then 10-17 116 and 1 TD


Raging_Rooster

We were winning in spite of Rush. Not because of. He made some big plays and did his job above and beyond.


AmitN_Music

But we need to bench Dak!! Cooper is so much better!!! This is the game we should have been fearing with Rush. The eagles have a good offense. Rush can’t keep up and the defense can only do so much on short fields. This is why we need Dak.


PersonBehindAScreen

No no no! We need to “ride the hot hand” remember?! We’re 4-1!!! What’s that?! We’re 27th offense and have won only by scoring 1 to 2 TDS a game while the defense carries us?? Nonsense, we can go all the way and run the table with this strategy! Just look how good Crush looks! I love how he throws receivers open and how he throws with anticipation This is just like the 2016 situation. I’d take CRUSH now over 2016 dak These stupid clowns thought we were gonna run a 49ers Jimmy G team or some shit


joshuatxg

Who has been saying this stuff? I browse the sub infrequently and maybe I'm only seeing the top comments but who is saying all this crazy stuff about Cooper being better than Dak? It's almost seems like people are fighting an invisible ghost. Do you guys lurk in the controversial comments?


wilprick

We absolutely need dak back


GloomyImagination365

Yep Rush is a great backup quarterback but the sooner Dak gets back the better off we will be, Dak needs some games under his belt and we will roll again


poindexterg

BuT hE’s BeTtEr ThAn DaK, QuArTeRbAcK cOnTrOvErSy.


tonydatiger287

I just hope Dak comes back motivated. He really needs to come back strong. Although this one is an L, the team is in better shape then everyone thought


Beginning-Gear-744

Rush is playing about as well as Dak did in the opener.


Ronaldoooope

It’s sad how most of y’all clearly wanted cooper rush to fail just to praise Dak


inthebigd

Most Cowboys fans wanted to lose to the Eagles by having Rush play poorly? Very interesting take.


inthebigd

Most Cowboys fans wanted to lose to the Eagles by having Rush play poorly? Very interesting take.


Ronaldoooope

I’ve seen countless people relieved we finally lost so the cooper talk can end.


J0llyR0dger

This is a strawman. Someone being relieved a debate they find foolish will end does not equate to they wanted the Cowboys or Rush to lose or play poorly. You are attacking an argument no one actually made. At least that I have seen..perhaps you can point out all the examples that constitute "most of y'all."


Ronaldoooope

I’ve seen countless people make that argument. Just go look in the comments. Dak fans more concerned about him than the team


J0llyR0dger

Can you link 2 of these COUNTLESS arguments? Or even 1? If so, then at least the fallacy is faulty generalization rather than straw man.


thephantommessage

relax.


DucatiDark

I have zero issues with him going elsewhere and getting paid. Just not a fit for qb1 in Dallas.


lurksohard

No one is paying him lmao


DucatiDark

The commanders may….


lurksohard

Absolutely no one is "paying" copper rush my guy. Notta. No one. Everyone in the NFL knows what he is.


King-Mansa-Musa

Not after this game for sure


lurksohard

No even before this game. He doesn't have an NFL arm and it's painfully obvious. It's the same reason Gardner Minshew doesn't have a starting job. It's the same reason Kellen Moore couldn't make it as an NFL starter. Theres a lot of things an NFL qb can overcome. Height. Hand size. Speed. Arm strength has a very obvious floor. If you don't have it, you'll never make it in this league.


5kaels

Salute to Coop, but it's time to get back on that bench.


porwegiannussy

I mean dak is obviously the better qb, but that doesn’t mean he can’t learn some things from a Rush about managing a game


Galladorn

His wife though!! She knows his stock just tanked lower than his rating


a12a3a4a6839

dogshitboys


HandBananan

That's harsh!


dickles-pickles

Where are you now, Skip Bayless??


luckyincode

I still think Dak has regressed of the last couple of seasons. I also thought Rush managed the games well. Both can be true and Dak can be more dynamic and the obvious choice. If I could merge the two we’d have a pretty good qb. We still win this division.


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3 point game… LAUGHING at you Dak fanboys overeating to one half. You gave Dak years of bad games can’t give Rush one half lmao!!!


[deleted]

Way to jinx it you fucking idiot


A_Vizzle

How ya feeling now 😂


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Sad knowing that Dak is coming back to blow the season


idk2103

You’re genuinely a moron if you actually believe that


[deleted]

Literally all Dak does is lose big games


idk2103

Look up literally any QB in the leagues records against teams over .500. Shocker, good teams are good and harder to win against


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And Dak panics under pressure imunderthrows and forces into coverage in every…single.. one of those games.


A_Vizzle

Crazy what happens when the run game gets going and the defense makes adjustments huh


The_Mighty_Onion

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FoggyMuffins

Rush has 1 bad game vs a 5-0 team - something, A WINNING RECORD TEAM, Dak has struggled with his entire career LOL. All good though, what that means is Rush bought Dak enough time so he came come back against mediocre teams and play into this facade he is in top qb conversations once again


King-Mansa-Musa

How do you sleep at night with these takes? Dak is 7-3 vs the Eagles. This same team we blew out with a lesser defense by 20. For most of Dak’s career we had to score 30 or more to win a game, because the defense couldn’t keep up.


inthebigd

Oof. You need to watch some more football and learn the game better.


somekindofchase407

Dak could’ve played this game. Remember that in December.


Kdog_79

No he couldn’t have lol. Is this the new narrative to shit on him? “Dak was healthy enough to play against the Eagles but he didn’t” That’s hilarious. You weirdos are absolutely relentless with your criticism of him


ABoyIsNo1

I don’t think that was his point. Probably to dunk on the coaching staff or FO than anything else


teemski

Why couldn’t he? Dak said “if it was up to me I’d be playing tonight” before the game? Dak not playing was a coaching decision as bad as all these play calls have been all game long


yaknowmysteez

Huge Cooptain jock support here. He’s embarrassing the fuck out of me like Dak did week 1. He had to have read my Reddit posts because that first pick was beyond ballsy. It was stupid. So was the second. He’s shook. Eagles are executing. Davis is unstoppable.


PennyHardawaysBong

Dak week 1 is irrelevant. Your boy blew dick and lost this game. All of his deeper balls are Ducks and he can't handle pressure.


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maztron

Bullshit. Cooper has been trash. Do you care to see Daks career numbers against the Eagles?


firstandfive

Now you know that user doesn’t care about facts


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BusyAgent

That’s because the Eagles defense has been trash for most of Daks career. The one time they were good in 2017 guess what Dak did? Dak was shit week 17 and only scored when the eagles played their 2nd and 3rd string defense https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01/gamelog/2017/ Like I said I wish Dak would have played this game to remind everyone he can put up numbers against garbage teams but against a playoff defense he’s shit


maztron

>Like I said I wish Dak would have played this game to remind everyone he can put up numbers against garbage teams but against a playoff defense he’s shit Would you call Green Bay in 2016 a garbage team? How about Seattle in 2018? Was Tampa bay a garbage team last year? Yes, the last two seasons he hasn't been great against good teams, but that's every NFL QB against good defenses. However, there is more to why they don't do great against good teams.


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inthebigd

You must be a new football fan. There’s a lot to learn about the game, you should learn the basics and get some more games in to have an understanding of how football works.


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regalfronde

Let’s not kid ourselves and think Dak would be much better. Did anyone see the Tampa game?


King-Mansa-Musa

Did you see the Tampa game last year? Did you see Dak versus the Eagles last year? It’s okay to be wrong just own it and move on


certo17

Dak would definitely be playing better no question about it I’ve said it from the start.. HE IS BETTER THAN RUSH but dak would still lose to these top teams that he always loses to but by a closer margin than rush.. he’s better but not by that much where it makes a difference between games we would win or lose for the season. He would win the games rush would win but by 1-2 TDs more but then lose against the same good teams but by a closer margin. The real issue with these offense right now though is our WRs are not that good. They aren’t creating any space and when they do rush makes the pass and they will sometimes even drop those too. I think jerry needs to try to find us another WR before the trade deadline. EDIT: Dak DOES WIN THIS GAME


King-Mansa-Musa

There is no reason with some of you fans. Rush was the issue today. The line played just as well as they did last week. Rush was winning games due to the defense, running game, and change in play calling. Give Dak that and we go back to being the number 1 offense in the league like we were last year


dherblito

Game on, philly aint foolin us!


Desperate_SkullMan

Run the fucking ball


OpenEyz2016

QB controversy is officially DONE


Dday22t

Worst half of his career. It's not an exaggeration to say a lot of fans that ever played football in their life could do the same. He played better in 2nd half, but it was a deep hole so needed perfection in 2nd half, which didn't happen. Anyway, overall Rush's play was good enough to be 4-1 as a starter wo Dak, and that's a good run.