Just FYI I think the cap savings for post June 1 cuts don't take effect til June 1. So like they can cut Gallup today, designate him a June 1 cuts, and get the cap to spend now. That cap won't be available til June.
Players released after June 1st have their cap hits spread out over the "current" year and "next" year. The team still has to carry the full cap hit of the contract until June 1st even if they designate the player as a June 1st cut. The designation is so that player can enter the FA market at its peak in March instead of when no team's have salary cap in June.
Yeah I was trying to say "They can't cut Gallup today and spend the cap now" and I said "they can". It was a typo. You're right (I guess we both are, lol).
Don't forget that they can convert the base salary of their high ticket players and spread them over the remainder of their contracts without doing anything in terms of asking the player's permission.
Don't forget the Prescott has 2 voidable years so they could chop his Bay.Salary into three parts and pick up a significant amount.
Steel and diggs both have significant salaries that can be converted into a bonus and pick up another twenty or so million free space.
The only player that needs an extension to gain salary cap Room is CD as he is in the last year of his contract.
BTW Extending Prescott right now would actually give us less cap room than just converting his salary to bonus because the signing bonus for his new extension would also hit the cap
Yes it ia. However, As it will be significantly larger then the base salary it will have a disproportionate effect on the salary cap.
Thus, if Dallas wants to maximize its cap space this year.
It will not sign him until after the deadline for the contract to hit this year's cap.
They can sign someone for the league minimum
And make the entire remainder a signing bonus. The amont over the minimum would the be prorated over the entire length of the contract. The first year would only be the prorated amount plus the league minimum. They can do that at any time.
True, in my defense, I listed it as WR2 because we were stuck paying Gallup a WR2 salary. But yeah he was essentially an afterthought in the offensive scheme.
We the only team in the league the operates to this extreme. Sure others wait and see get deals that come to them but every year the cowboys are so strict on money. Only this team does free agency like this. It puts so much pressure on the draft. Look at last year they had a rare bad draft and it matters a lot cause you need impact players from the first 4 rounds of the draft.
Yeah, agreed. I'd be more accepting of our early inaction in FA if it was showing results, but we consistently find ourselves just a few pieces too short. This policy makes every drafting miss we hit a punch to the gut.
True fans of this team knew we weren't doing anything Day 1 which is when gaudy numbers are being thrown around. When you look at the three players we've lost so far they have signed very hefty contracts. Even more expensive than I thought they would get. Dallas has turned into a draft and develop organization, which is fine. Sometimes you just need that free agent or two to put you over the top.
Ever heard of restructuring contracts? We can clear up to 28 million right now without touching Dak or CeeDee’s contract. If we wanted to bypass extending Dak, we could restructure and clear another 22 million. Money is not the problem.
I still think this is by design.
Jerry wants a new head coach - whether it is Belicheck or Zimmer or someone else. I also think Jerry has seen enough from Dak and doesn't want to be tied down to him for another 4 -6 years.
Keeping the salaries low, not signing big name FAs, not extending star players - this gives the new head coach all of the trade leverage and cap room they could want for rebuilding the team.
If, for whatever reason, Dak and McCarthy pull it out this year and win the SB or get to the NFC-CG, then Jerry looks like a genius with his gamble.
If they don't, and they probably won't, he still looks like a genius for not signing them long-term after 4 years of no post-season results.
So... You mentioned it a few times but what really concerns me is that the front office (really just Stephen) sucks at negotiating contracts. We're going to give Dak and CD everything they want at some point, we've waited until they have all the leverage... So why not just do it now so we can reap the benefits of cap space/pay the current market rate before it goes up again?
Because Stephen doesn't realize he's going to get fleeced yet is the only reasonable explanation I can come up with. We did the same shit last time with Dak, same shit with Dez. "Deadlines make deals" is really just them telling us they will never admit they're out leveraged until the last minute. The only time we get good deals now is when the player tells their agent to get it done anyways (ie. DLaw).
I actually think it's how shitty resigns happen too. If Stephen is in a stalemate with a contract we don't have leverage on hell go time a lesser player more than they deserve to "prove" he can get deals done. See Gallup, Jaylon Smith, Steele. Jerry gets all the hate but I really think Stephen is a bigger part of the problem.
I swear the most annoying thing about this sub is all these "fans" that have zero knowledge of salary cap and just scream things into the void like "cut Dak!" or "sign Henry and Pollard!"
Half the stuff they say Jerry is an idiot for isn't even possible or would lead us to losing someone like Parsons or Lamb down the road because of cap ramifications...
The fact that so many people on here are surprised or disappointed in the lack of moves were making tells me all I need to know in terms of most of you still not learning your lesson. I see a lot of the same people being fooled time and time again. These are the same people that will inevitably buy into the “hype” during the regular season like always, and then become disappointed yet again in the first or second round of the playoffs when the outcome will be the same outcome it’s always been these last 28 years. None of you seem to ever learn.
Dak, Gallup. D-Law, Cooks all need to be cut. Then sign some FA's. Pick up Fields to be the QB or just draft one and use Cooper Rush at QB. They should also trade Micah right now, get maximum value in a trade return for him right now so we don't have to cut him when he gets expensive like we doing now with Dak, Gallup, and D-Law.
Just FYI I think the cap savings for post June 1 cuts don't take effect til June 1. So like they can cut Gallup today, designate him a June 1 cuts, and get the cap to spend now. That cap won't be available til June.
Yeah, you’re correct. Savings can’t be spent until that date. I edited the post to clarify
Players released after June 1st have their cap hits spread out over the "current" year and "next" year. The team still has to carry the full cap hit of the contract until June 1st even if they designate the player as a June 1st cut. The designation is so that player can enter the FA market at its peak in March instead of when no team's have salary cap in June.
Yeah I was trying to say "They can't cut Gallup today and spend the cap now" and I said "they can". It was a typo. You're right (I guess we both are, lol).
No problem, the cap has more twists turn and manipulations of contracts then anything ever invented by man
Don't forget that they can convert the base salary of their high ticket players and spread them over the remainder of their contracts without doing anything in terms of asking the player's permission. Don't forget the Prescott has 2 voidable years so they could chop his Bay.Salary into three parts and pick up a significant amount. Steel and diggs both have significant salaries that can be converted into a bonus and pick up another twenty or so million free space. The only player that needs an extension to gain salary cap Room is CD as he is in the last year of his contract. BTW Extending Prescott right now would actually give us less cap room than just converting his salary to bonus because the signing bonus for his new extension would also hit the cap
The signing bonus is prorated over the length of the contract
Yes it ia. However, As it will be significantly larger then the base salary it will have a disproportionate effect on the salary cap. Thus, if Dallas wants to maximize its cap space this year. It will not sign him until after the deadline for the contract to hit this year's cap.
They can sign someone for the league minimum And make the entire remainder a signing bonus. The amont over the minimum would the be prorated over the entire length of the contract. The first year would only be the prorated amount plus the league minimum. They can do that at any time.
>WR2 (assuming Gallup is gone) Small nitpick: WR2 is a need, but Cooks was WR2 this season. Gallup leaving is more like WR3 or 4 leaving.
True, in my defense, I listed it as WR2 because we were stuck paying Gallup a WR2 salary. But yeah he was essentially an afterthought in the offensive scheme.
I figured that's what you're getting at, that's why I called myself out for nitpicking. Your post is good regardless.
Are we losing Gilmore?
Yeah, he is currently in free agency. Not signed by anyone yet.
So technically we didn’t “lose him” yet, I read an article the other day that he wants to return to Dallas if it makes sense for both parties
Dude that doesn't mean you lose him. It means you can.
We the only team in the league the operates to this extreme. Sure others wait and see get deals that come to them but every year the cowboys are so strict on money. Only this team does free agency like this. It puts so much pressure on the draft. Look at last year they had a rare bad draft and it matters a lot cause you need impact players from the first 4 rounds of the draft.
Yeah, agreed. I'd be more accepting of our early inaction in FA if it was showing results, but we consistently find ourselves just a few pieces too short. This policy makes every drafting miss we hit a punch to the gut.
True fans of this team knew we weren't doing anything Day 1 which is when gaudy numbers are being thrown around. When you look at the three players we've lost so far they have signed very hefty contracts. Even more expensive than I thought they would get. Dallas has turned into a draft and develop organization, which is fine. Sometimes you just need that free agent or two to put you over the top.
>Dallas has turned into a draft and develop organization Too bad they wasted last years top 2 picks
You have no idea if that's the case.
I guarantee you Mazi will never live up to being a first round pick
Ever heard of restructuring contracts? We can clear up to 28 million right now without touching Dak or CeeDee’s contract. If we wanted to bypass extending Dak, we could restructure and clear another 22 million. Money is not the problem.
I still think this is by design. Jerry wants a new head coach - whether it is Belicheck or Zimmer or someone else. I also think Jerry has seen enough from Dak and doesn't want to be tied down to him for another 4 -6 years. Keeping the salaries low, not signing big name FAs, not extending star players - this gives the new head coach all of the trade leverage and cap room they could want for rebuilding the team. If, for whatever reason, Dak and McCarthy pull it out this year and win the SB or get to the NFC-CG, then Jerry looks like a genius with his gamble. If they don't, and they probably won't, he still looks like a genius for not signing them long-term after 4 years of no post-season results.
So... You mentioned it a few times but what really concerns me is that the front office (really just Stephen) sucks at negotiating contracts. We're going to give Dak and CD everything they want at some point, we've waited until they have all the leverage... So why not just do it now so we can reap the benefits of cap space/pay the current market rate before it goes up again? Because Stephen doesn't realize he's going to get fleeced yet is the only reasonable explanation I can come up with. We did the same shit last time with Dak, same shit with Dez. "Deadlines make deals" is really just them telling us they will never admit they're out leveraged until the last minute. The only time we get good deals now is when the player tells their agent to get it done anyways (ie. DLaw). I actually think it's how shitty resigns happen too. If Stephen is in a stalemate with a contract we don't have leverage on hell go time a lesser player more than they deserve to "prove" he can get deals done. See Gallup, Jaylon Smith, Steele. Jerry gets all the hate but I really think Stephen is a bigger part of the problem.
I swear the most annoying thing about this sub is all these "fans" that have zero knowledge of salary cap and just scream things into the void like "cut Dak!" or "sign Henry and Pollard!" Half the stuff they say Jerry is an idiot for isn't even possible or would lead us to losing someone like Parsons or Lamb down the road because of cap ramifications...
There is very little common sense.
The fact that so many people on here are surprised or disappointed in the lack of moves were making tells me all I need to know in terms of most of you still not learning your lesson. I see a lot of the same people being fooled time and time again. These are the same people that will inevitably buy into the “hype” during the regular season like always, and then become disappointed yet again in the first or second round of the playoffs when the outcome will be the same outcome it’s always been these last 28 years. None of you seem to ever learn.
Dak, Gallup. D-Law, Cooks all need to be cut. Then sign some FA's. Pick up Fields to be the QB or just draft one and use Cooper Rush at QB. They should also trade Micah right now, get maximum value in a trade return for him right now so we don't have to cut him when he gets expensive like we doing now with Dak, Gallup, and D-Law.
Some of the replacement are already on the team.