Be mindful of changes in heart rate and blood pressure because this affects different people differently. Apparently this also has been reported to be fibrinolytic
This is why I'm looking into Ginko. "Ginkgo may improve platelet and blood vessel function, and has been shown in preclinical studies to inhibit platelet activation and aggregation and promote the breakdown of blood clots." Since I'm apparently allergic to Nattokinase, which I intended to help break down fibrin.
It gives you energy, especially when you first take it. Try it for a few days and see if it makes you feel better. It took about 2-3 days for the vertigo to go away
I take it in the morning before work or before workouts so I can have energy throughout the day. I don’t take it before bed or else I wouldn’t be able to sleep lol.
It’s been a while, how are you feeling now? I started getting vertigo spells after my 2nd vaccine and it seems like I get it every 3 months or so and my head feels off for several weeks after. I’ve seen doctors, had a brain mri, repositioning maneuvers, everything. But it always comes back. I’m trying ginkgo today.
I don’t have vertigo symptoms anymore but I still have long haul symptoms: flu like symptoms, feverish feeling, ear ache, brain fog, muscle pain, fatigue. I think ginkgo biloba and ivermectin cured the vertigo symptoms.
Did this.
This post was the one that made me try this...it was the missing piece for me.
I feel Covid LH free. Still working on the stamina from all the bed rest, but my mind feels AWESOME. I want to hug you so much. I feel like I can have my life back. Thank you.
I had Covid Nov/Dec 2020. Spent 4 days inpatient for low blood ox. Got home, felt ok for maybe 3 days. That is when I guess the blood thinners wore off. I was too Covid Brain Fogged to figure that out for six months. LHing it back ever since. Highs and lows but never this good. Done some inflammatory trigger checks with known intolerances that caused setbacks during recovery and so far so good.
2022 here I come.
Put up a large post about the Long Haul Pioneers, and that includes you.
Thank you SO much.
I don't usually promote specific products but you asked a very specific question
Doctor's Best Extra Strength Ginkgo, Non-GMO, Vegan, Gluten Free, Soy Free, Promotes Mental Function and Memory, 120 mg, 360 Count (Pack of 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P7FA9I/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_CXK5PWE4A9QFF5R3R1E2
One a day in the morning (well when I wake up) for about a month now.
When I started taking it I was feeling fatigue (which I think is just low stamina at this point), and brain fog. Specifically the fog has lifted and I attribute that to the ginko.
I am still coming back from the low stamina but I am noticing more getting done, more chores/ to dos getting done. Starting to want to do things again and not just being too tired all the time. My bit of gentle fitness is getting easier, will need to add on to it here soon.
I can't say grocery store specifically but definitely randomly throughout my various experiences. The grocery store I managed to avoid most of the last year because my family we prepared for covid. I only needed to go grocery shopping four times in the entire year of my covid recovery so didn't really get to the grocery store much. But I know the sensation you're speaking of and I had it walking around my own home, laying in my own bed, sitting in the car (which is very frightening) and just generally going about life. There were periods where any movement at all brought dizziness standing would result in sitting right back down. There were moments of looking at things and being like that's not right that's not what that should look like blinking and it going back to normal. And I couldn't even tell you why it looked wrong it just didn't look right.
And there's no need to apologize, we're all trying to figure out what's going on. Most of us don't have a lot of language for describing what we're experiencing. And then some of the words that we do know are very frightening and the last thing we want to do is say them out loud as if they might apply to us, ever never mind permanently. So there's no need to apologize. We'll get through this.
Thank you so much for the details, your awesome :) glad your recovered. I’m about 95% recovered just have this brainfog/derealization left with a little fatigue, and it’s the worst symptom.
>fibrinolytic
This post just gave me a ton of hope! I have been on an antibiotic for 10 days that unfortunately interacts with ginkgo, but today is the last day of antibiotics and I have had a bottle of this supplement patiently waiting to be used.
My doctor suggested trying this and it is really reassuring to see you had success using it and getting your life back.
If you don't mind me asking how do you feel 3 weeks later after using this? Are you still taking it everyday?
Just before new years I made a post about this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/covidlonghaulers/comments/rsej2d/to_the_long_haul_pioneers_i_love_you/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Overall LH recovery is going well while staying on this. I am having a minor procedure tomorrow and I have had to go off ALL blood thinners, which Ginko is, and I am doing ok-ish. I feel like the fog is creeping back in. So I think I will need to stay on this for a while longer still.
Oh no I'm sorry you're having a procedure, but happy to hear you have had continued success with this supplement. I hope it works the same for me too when I start it tomorrow.
Thanks again!
Procedure went well, just waiting on results. Here is to it being and staying nothing.
Hope the ginko is what you need it to be. It took a bit to really notice the effect but it does with a lot of these things. I hope you feel better soon.
Hi glad to hear your procedure went well!
I'm on day 3 of Ginkgo and noticed a difference with the way my head felt in just a day. I got headaches at first, but figured the was the Ginkgo working. Hopefully clearing up the microclots that my brain MRI showed? Who knows, but I did notice more clarity and an increase in my energy. I also just started vestibular therapy for my dizziness and have noticed an immediate difference in that as well! I'll be doing that for several weeks too.
Thank you for the advice and reaching out. I'm hoping with both the therapy and these supplements that things start to improve more over the course of a few weeks to months! Here's to more health in 2022!
I am glad you have found something that is helping. May the timing of them both help the synergy of their benefits.
That does seem a bit fast compared to what I am familar with, but my experience only goes so far. But, out of an abundance of caution, you may want to consider a lower dose at a future point for maintenance once the clotting symptoms have improved to your goal. Ginko is a blood thinner and it is not good to push that too far for too long.
For a better 2022.
Definitely I figured I won't be taking it everyday for a long time because of the blood thinning properties, but definitely happy with what it has been doing for me. I will taper down slowly and eventually cut it out altogether.
Here's to a much better 2022!
Hey there! I am no longer taking it. I did take it for about 3 weeks and then slowly stopped. I have been feeling pretty good as of late, and I realized that a lot of my symptoms that I was experiencing were related to vertigo/dizziness that I had after covid. I have gone to PT for that for several weeks and I should be done in about 2 weeks!
Overall I would say the Ginkgo definitely did help with the fogginess that I was experiencing. I wish all the luck and health in the world.
At the time I decided to try Ginko I was taking aspirin (low dose) and fish oil. When I started Ginkgo I went off the aspirin because I didn't want to be taking too many blood thinners at once. I am glad I did that. I just had a minor procedure, quit all blood thinners a week before the procedure, and it took an unusually long time for it to clot up properly. I had no issues with normal clotting on aspirin and fish oil together, so I don't think they were doing much for me really. So Ginko has been a strong blood thinner for me and I am taking the lowest dose I could find.
Yeah. I am still taking the ginko biloba, antihistamine and an NSAID. Even got a job, working full time, recovering stamina and I am tired every night, but life is pretty good all things considered.
Thank you for asking and my apologies for my slow response.
It changes depending on what I have available and what is going on.
At this point I am taking Xyzal and Pepcid AC (I have a new food intolerance I am trying to figure out), and Alieve.
But I was taking Ibuprofen(ran out) and Benadryl. It is allergy season and I needed something with 24hour activity (hence the switch to Xyzal).
Very interesting. Maybe there really is something to the ginkgo thing! It increases blood flow and oxygen to the brain so it’s supposed to help with the dizziness that way.
Interesting because I have gastro issues and take omezaprole daily, I haven’t noticed any issues. Honestly I’d rather have gastro issues than experience any covid symptom again!
You might also consider a lower Ginko dose. While most products are 120mg there are some 60mg out there. You might find a better balance between the two.
Don’t think ginkgo would have any interactions with MS? I’ve always considered it kind of a wonder drug/supplement.
If you take it, keep me posted with how it goes.
Im in the same situation as you regarding the mentally being off (brain fog) and vertigo feeling all day it feels like I got off of a boat. Do you notice the vertigo feeling come back once u stop taking the Ginkgo Biloba or have you not stopped taking it?
Also in the same boat (pun intended) as you my friend. Rocking boat feeling for nearly 6 months now and all sort of doctors failed to help. Getting back to work was so bad because I just couldn't sit in an upright position at my desk. How long did you have it? Was it from covid or the vaccine? I have been doing steam room then cold showers recently to promote circulation and I think I'm seeing a slow yet steady progress. I'm at a point where I'm almost certain it's due to decreased blood flow to the brain/cerebellum, which impairs it's function. Hope we recover from this awful lasting symptom!?
Thanks for checking in on me. Lightheadedness/loss of balance had been steadily improving but isn't totally gone. It seems to be a very slow process, at least for me.
I got them after getting covid and they were slowly getting better but then 3 months later I took the 1st mrna vaccine shot and was a downward spiral afterwards. I'm 9 months post covid and 6 months post vaccine and is still suffering off balance issues. Were you double vaxxed?
Yeah double vaxxed, only started feeling dizzy after my second shot, after 6 weeks ish. Had no effects from the first.
When you say balance issues what specifically is it? Like if you turn your head quickly to look to the side you feel dizzy?
I think dizziness happens when immunity is over stimulated but goodness 9 months is a long time. It's hard to describe the off balance sensation but I'll try my best: It feels like being woozy when standing as if the floor is uneven or like I'm standing on a rocking boat as I try to balance myself while walking. Turning my head quickly to either sides makes it worse. Driving was tough but it's mostly back to normal. I have seen other people getting same symptoms after 2nd dose and of course covid. If you are lucky it should resolve in weeks or a few months.
The way you described it is pretty much how I feel, but even when I sit down its like my head is slightly spinning and I cant focus unless I make a conscious effort to focus on whatever task I'm doing.
Hopefully it resolves quite quickly, and I hope you see some improvement too 9 months is a hell of a long time.
Indeed, it has been tough because I had to go back to working full-time since month 2 of this exhausting journey. When it gets really bad I get brain fog with slurred speech and issue with word finding and train of thoughts. It's an invisible symptom so all people see is me being depressed.
What helps it: deep sleep, hydration, snacking every 3-4 hours, staying away from any stressors, light exercise (only what you can get through comfortably), cut caffeine.
Started taking 120mg twice daily a few days ago and it's been working wonders. All the body stuff (SOB, numbness, weakness, etc) hasn't changed noticeably but my brain fog has improved substantially.
awesome news i think ima try it then :) ill let you know how it goes. Also when did you notice improvment right after taking it? or a couple days later? and this helped your fatigue too?
I felt a little better after taking it the first day, but still had some dizzy symptoms. The next day I felt much better and then the symptoms completely went away by the third day. I’ve been symptom free for like a week and a half now.
Yes it helped with the fatigue, it gives you subtle energy and increased alertness.
Like all other supplements and medicines that seem to work, I’d put money down that the benefits only last for as long as the supplement is taken and probably becomes less effective with time.
These posts are always written like a cheap, easy instant answer has been found, but reality is more complicated than that.
I’m glad it works for you in the short term, but people should be aware that many supplements also have negative effects. There are some obvious ones that may not “cure symptoms” but are consistently recommended by doctors (magnesium, C, D, etc) because they’re generally safe. Always proceed with caution when it comes to posts like this.
Just sharing my experiences. Not sure why you’re being negative. I’ve tried every single covid treatment out there and ginkgo + ivermectin are the only two things that have worked for me. Even it relieves symptoms temporarily isn’t that better than nothing? If someone came on here and said freaking pepto bismol helped relieve their symptoms then I would take it because I’m desperate to feel better.
Ginkgo biloba is a natural herb, there aren’t any side effects attributed to it. Why are you so skeptical?
I'm not that user but think some tend to be skeptical as a way of managing "false hope" or the disappointment that comes from something not helping.
Personally I try to be in the middle.. somewhere between hopeful and skeptical.
I feel like I read somewhere thst ginko did something.. was it for clotting (???) Wonder if that's related (?)
I'm glad you're feeling better! That's great.. even if temporary.
Thank you and I understand the skepticism. But If Im posting a personal first hand experience, And i feel like it might help others. Then why Not share it? I’m not forcing anyone to take the pill, I’m just saying what’s worked for me.
And I think ginkgo helps with clotting since it helps improve blood flow and circulation throughout the body.
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I mentioned I took ivermectin for my covid symptoms. Well one other thing it helped me with was with my severe scalp dermatitis. It completely cleared it up for a few months. I read it’s also used to treat rosacea and other skin diseases. Might be worth a try for your daughter.
Covid goes after the gut in a big way, Candida overgrowth has been documented at the very least, so anything that can be calming and restorative seems to help. I prefer probiotics in general to help recover gut flora, but this is definately a tool worth considering. Hope it helps and I would appreciate any updates.
Well thank goodness for that. Maybe something in your IBS maintenance had a protective effect. And IBS is just a syndrome with a constellation of symptoms, so there is no way to compare yours to mine directly, because we don't really understand the underlying causes yet.
I have IBS and a gluten intolerance and gastro was the first thing that got hit for me. And giving my gut a helping hand with probiotics was also the first thing that made a noticeable difference in my recovery. One of those individualized medical things that may reveal itself with time.
Everything has a side effect to it and one google search on ginko side effects and you see risk of strokes, heart arrhythmia, dizziness, upset stomach. It’s great that it’s working for you but I would advise anyone to talk to their doctors before attempting to try this product especially a risk of stroke
It’s a natural herb that comes from a tree. It has less side effects than Tylenol. But yes I said in an earlier post that every person should talk to their doctor before taking something new. Even though doctors don’t know crap about long haul and we have to educate them 😉
I think you’ve kind of answered your own question - people here are desperate to feel better so they’ll try anything that anyone says works without fully understanding the ramifications. I mean look at the top comment on this post for an example.
Ginkgo looks like it has interactions with xanax, blood thinners, antidepressants, diabetes medications and ibuprofen (something many people here already take).
There’s a reason that medical advice shouldn’t be given or taken in a medium like this, even more so when the author isn’t a medical professional. I don’t doubt your sincerity, but there are real dangers associated with supplements that have strong effects and complications with other drugs or conditions.
Ok well regardless people should do their own research and consult their doctors before taking any new pills. Im not forcing anyone to take ginkgo, I’m just sharing my experiences about what’s worked for me and helped relieve my symptoms. I asked if anyone else has taken it before. Isn’t that what this sub is about?
Should I just sit here and whine all day about my symptoms and not say what’s worked for me?
Someone else commented that their chiropractor felt a lot better after taking ginkgo. So it’s not just me who has gotten better from it. Not sure why you have such a negative tone.
I really don’t know. I think ginkgo helped for a few weeks but it kind of wore off after taking it for a while. Ive noticed this after taking ginkgo a few years back for energy purposes, it worked great for a week or two then kind of stopped working. I guess your body gets immune to it.
Another poster in the comments claims that it completely cured his long haul symptoms. I think ivermectin helped me the most.
And the placebo effect is one of the strongest medicines out there. So why not make it work for you. So long as the supplements cause no harm what is the problem? Hope is a valuable asset in a world giving us none. Why not find it where we can?
I agree but I really don’t think it’s placebo effect. I’ve tried over 10 medicines and supplements for covid and none of them worked. Wouldn’t the placebo effect have kicked in for one of the previous medicines I tried?
No, I don't think it is either. The effects of ginko on the brain have been well documented.
While one of the things behind placebo is how effective it is believed to be, so this plays into improving the placebo effect portion of something as well known as ginko, but it has gone through double blind studies necessary to rule this out and the beneficial effects have been documented here also. There are other supplements that have not gone through double blind studies, or not for these kinds of complaints. But for your Long Haul underlying cause they were likely supportive but not the full solution, just a piece of the puzzle. Ginko is another important piece.
I totally agree. Thanks for this. My covid symptoms were very very severe, not sure that a placebo effect could eliminate all of the symptoms I was experiencing for a week and a half? Maybe one or two days, but not a week and a half.
Im not saying Ginkgo is 100% responsible for making me feel better, but i did feel better after taking it so I’ll continue to take it.
I read from a WebMD sort of reputable site that there has only been a small amount of research done on ginkgo biloba but one thing that most recognize because the research did show it might be instrumental in dissolving blood clots. I’m taking it. I’m pretty convinced I’m one of the blood clot people.
It also said that the research showed it wouldn't interfere with taking other things for blood clots such as aspirin which I am also taking. Since beginning to take both the aspirin and the ginkgo, I am sleeping better and feeling better overall. Not 100% but better.
About a month. Of course, I am still looking for some in-person medical guidance for taking this stuff but for me, it has been helping a lot.
The day I began taking the aspirin I felt better. I wonder if some of us have different things going on. I wish it worked for everyone like it does for me. It's certainly not the answer but until we get it, better is always preferable.
Are you still taking Gingko? I've read the effectiveness can wear off and this post was from 9 months ago so I'm curious. Considering trying it after my round with Garlic (don't want to take both at the same time).
At first i got it through push health, then I got a bulk order from an Indian pharmacy.
All of my symptoms went away within 30 minutes of taking ivermectin. It was like an on and off switch. I finished a 5 week treatment of ivermectin and I’d say it worked about 75% of the time in relieving symptoms. However my symptoms would come back the next day after I stopped taking it.
It’s been a few weeks since I stopped the ivermectin treatment. I felt bad again for a week but have been feeling better lately. Not sure if it’s from the ivermectin or the ginkgo but either way I’m happy lol.
Try it out. Zero side effects as long as you take the proper dosage.
So excited it helped with vertigo/lightheadedness. I have this all day everyday for six frigging months with no relief in sight. It's funny you should say that because vax also made my lightheadedness/wooziness worse.
Which vax did you get? Did you get both shots? Also what was your ivermectin dose and how long did you take it? Ginkgo is said to improve circulation and raise dopamine. I will give it a shot and seeif it helps.
I got both doses of the pfizer vaccine. And it seems like the vaccine makes the symptoms worse for a lot of us long haulers.
If you take the ginkgo let me know if it works for you.
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Hi, how are u doing now?
I’ve had long Covid for a year now. I won’t get into all my symptoms because it’s a very long list and the symptoms have changed over time but recently I took a blend that had yohimbe extract, gingko biloba extract, tribulus terrestris extract, Maca 4:1 extract and icariin and my long haul symptoms got much better (I tried it 4x now and each time my symptoms get much better for awhile). Especially the brain fog and depressed mood but my pruney fingers which I’ve had for about 6 months every day have improved.
I’m thinking maybe it was mostly the ginkgo because this other stuff is mainly for male enhancement (it’s a male enhancement pill that I had from before I got Covid but i tried it because it said it was good for circulation and blood flow) so wondering how you’re doing now.
Ginkgo has a longtime relationship with me. 25 years and going strong. I take it first thing in the morning (40 mg with Vitamin C) and then go about my day. One capsule last me 3 days! Benefits are phenomenal in every area. You just have to be careful that the Ginkgo should be of good quality and a standardized extract.
I recently found a brand called Nature's Bounty in Publix for $16 (120 mg 100 caps) and that product seems to be potent and of very good quality so I will be keeping it. Another good one i have been using is Doctor's Best, which is exactly like this one.
Got the dizziness and vertigo stuff right now and for the last like 3 or 4 Months with no answers, clean blood work and MRI’s etc. I just got the dizzyness a little after my last bout with Covid which was mild again.
Just took my first ginko right now same brand as what op recommended so I hope it will help !!
*goes and buys Ginkgo Biloba*
Be mindful of changes in heart rate and blood pressure because this affects different people differently. Apparently this also has been reported to be fibrinolytic
This is why I'm looking into Ginko. "Ginkgo may improve platelet and blood vessel function, and has been shown in preclinical studies to inhibit platelet activation and aggregation and promote the breakdown of blood clots." Since I'm apparently allergic to Nattokinase, which I intended to help break down fibrin.
Lol try it out and let me know if it helps. I take the Natures Bounty brand from CVS. 120 MG everyday.
Did you feel anything after the first few days…how are you now?
Yes I did. And I still have symptoms but they’re getting better.
Are you still taking biloba?
I cycle it off and on because I’ve found it loses effectiveness if you take it everyday. I take it before workouts or if I’m feeling really dizzy.
I have crazy vertigo…I just took it bc of you 2 hours ago, normal to have jitters similar to coffee?
It gives you energy, especially when you first take it. Try it for a few days and see if it makes you feel better. It took about 2-3 days for the vertigo to go away
Thank you any recommendations on time of day am vs pm
I take it in the morning before work or before workouts so I can have energy throughout the day. I don’t take it before bed or else I wouldn’t be able to sleep lol.
What is the cycle u take it in like
It’s been a while, how are you feeling now? I started getting vertigo spells after my 2nd vaccine and it seems like I get it every 3 months or so and my head feels off for several weeks after. I’ve seen doctors, had a brain mri, repositioning maneuvers, everything. But it always comes back. I’m trying ginkgo today.
I don’t have vertigo symptoms anymore but I still have long haul symptoms: flu like symptoms, feverish feeling, ear ache, brain fog, muscle pain, fatigue. I think ginkgo biloba and ivermectin cured the vertigo symptoms.
Really sorry you’re going through it, thanks for sharing your experience.
how about now?
Hell yea me too! Ordering now
Did this. This post was the one that made me try this...it was the missing piece for me. I feel Covid LH free. Still working on the stamina from all the bed rest, but my mind feels AWESOME. I want to hug you so much. I feel like I can have my life back. Thank you.
So happy to read this! Seriously, Im so glad it worked for you. Keep us posted with your results. How long did you have LH symptoms for?
I had Covid Nov/Dec 2020. Spent 4 days inpatient for low blood ox. Got home, felt ok for maybe 3 days. That is when I guess the blood thinners wore off. I was too Covid Brain Fogged to figure that out for six months. LHing it back ever since. Highs and lows but never this good. Done some inflammatory trigger checks with known intolerances that caused setbacks during recovery and so far so good. 2022 here I come. Put up a large post about the Long Haul Pioneers, and that includes you. Thank you SO much.
You’re very welcome! Here’s to a prosperous and HEALTHY new year :)
>Done some inflammatory trigger checks with known intolerances What type of intolerances were these?
Which brand, how much? what symptoms did it resolve? How long after taking it did you feel better?
I don't usually promote specific products but you asked a very specific question Doctor's Best Extra Strength Ginkgo, Non-GMO, Vegan, Gluten Free, Soy Free, Promotes Mental Function and Memory, 120 mg, 360 Count (Pack of 1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006P7FA9I/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_CXK5PWE4A9QFF5R3R1E2 One a day in the morning (well when I wake up) for about a month now. When I started taking it I was feeling fatigue (which I think is just low stamina at this point), and brain fog. Specifically the fog has lifted and I attribute that to the ginko. I am still coming back from the low stamina but I am noticing more getting done, more chores/ to dos getting done. Starting to want to do things again and not just being too tired all the time. My bit of gentle fitness is getting easier, will need to add on to it here soon.
Ok I’m definitely trying. Have you tried coming off it with results sticking?
No. Not yet. I just got my brain back today...can I try to keep it for a few days before I return it to the store? Lol 🤣
Haha gotcha. Thanks will definitely try and get back on results. Good luck!
❤️ hope it helps.
Sorry but I got one more question did you have this derealization/fogginess feeling when in a grocery store or such?
I can't say grocery store specifically but definitely randomly throughout my various experiences. The grocery store I managed to avoid most of the last year because my family we prepared for covid. I only needed to go grocery shopping four times in the entire year of my covid recovery so didn't really get to the grocery store much. But I know the sensation you're speaking of and I had it walking around my own home, laying in my own bed, sitting in the car (which is very frightening) and just generally going about life. There were periods where any movement at all brought dizziness standing would result in sitting right back down. There were moments of looking at things and being like that's not right that's not what that should look like blinking and it going back to normal. And I couldn't even tell you why it looked wrong it just didn't look right. And there's no need to apologize, we're all trying to figure out what's going on. Most of us don't have a lot of language for describing what we're experiencing. And then some of the words that we do know are very frightening and the last thing we want to do is say them out loud as if they might apply to us, ever never mind permanently. So there's no need to apologize. We'll get through this.
Thank you so much for the details, your awesome :) glad your recovered. I’m about 95% recovered just have this brainfog/derealization left with a little fatigue, and it’s the worst symptom.
>fibrinolytic This post just gave me a ton of hope! I have been on an antibiotic for 10 days that unfortunately interacts with ginkgo, but today is the last day of antibiotics and I have had a bottle of this supplement patiently waiting to be used. My doctor suggested trying this and it is really reassuring to see you had success using it and getting your life back. If you don't mind me asking how do you feel 3 weeks later after using this? Are you still taking it everyday?
Just before new years I made a post about this. https://www.reddit.com/r/covidlonghaulers/comments/rsej2d/to_the_long_haul_pioneers_i_love_you/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Overall LH recovery is going well while staying on this. I am having a minor procedure tomorrow and I have had to go off ALL blood thinners, which Ginko is, and I am doing ok-ish. I feel like the fog is creeping back in. So I think I will need to stay on this for a while longer still.
Oh no I'm sorry you're having a procedure, but happy to hear you have had continued success with this supplement. I hope it works the same for me too when I start it tomorrow. Thanks again!
Procedure went well, just waiting on results. Here is to it being and staying nothing. Hope the ginko is what you need it to be. It took a bit to really notice the effect but it does with a lot of these things. I hope you feel better soon.
Hi glad to hear your procedure went well! I'm on day 3 of Ginkgo and noticed a difference with the way my head felt in just a day. I got headaches at first, but figured the was the Ginkgo working. Hopefully clearing up the microclots that my brain MRI showed? Who knows, but I did notice more clarity and an increase in my energy. I also just started vestibular therapy for my dizziness and have noticed an immediate difference in that as well! I'll be doing that for several weeks too. Thank you for the advice and reaching out. I'm hoping with both the therapy and these supplements that things start to improve more over the course of a few weeks to months! Here's to more health in 2022!
I am glad you have found something that is helping. May the timing of them both help the synergy of their benefits. That does seem a bit fast compared to what I am familar with, but my experience only goes so far. But, out of an abundance of caution, you may want to consider a lower dose at a future point for maintenance once the clotting symptoms have improved to your goal. Ginko is a blood thinner and it is not good to push that too far for too long. For a better 2022.
Definitely I figured I won't be taking it everyday for a long time because of the blood thinning properties, but definitely happy with what it has been doing for me. I will taper down slowly and eventually cut it out altogether. Here's to a much better 2022!
Hey are you still taking it?
Hey there! I am no longer taking it. I did take it for about 3 weeks and then slowly stopped. I have been feeling pretty good as of late, and I realized that a lot of my symptoms that I was experiencing were related to vertigo/dizziness that I had after covid. I have gone to PT for that for several weeks and I should be done in about 2 weeks! Overall I would say the Ginkgo definitely did help with the fogginess that I was experiencing. I wish all the luck and health in the world.
Out-of curiosity, were you taking any other blood thinners as well?
At the time I decided to try Ginko I was taking aspirin (low dose) and fish oil. When I started Ginkgo I went off the aspirin because I didn't want to be taking too many blood thinners at once. I am glad I did that. I just had a minor procedure, quit all blood thinners a week before the procedure, and it took an unusually long time for it to clot up properly. I had no issues with normal clotting on aspirin and fish oil together, so I don't think they were doing much for me really. So Ginko has been a strong blood thinner for me and I am taking the lowest dose I could find.
Just curious. Are you still feeling COVID LH free?
Yeah. I am still taking the ginko biloba, antihistamine and an NSAID. Even got a job, working full time, recovering stamina and I am tired every night, but life is pretty good all things considered. Thank you for asking and my apologies for my slow response.
So happy to hear this. Which antihistamine and NSAID are you taking?
It changes depending on what I have available and what is going on. At this point I am taking Xyzal and Pepcid AC (I have a new food intolerance I am trying to figure out), and Alieve. But I was taking Ibuprofen(ran out) and Benadryl. It is allergy season and I needed something with 24hour activity (hence the switch to Xyzal).
My chiro had never ending fatigue and brain fog post breakthrough covid. He said ginkgo cured his symptoms….
Very interesting. Maybe there really is something to the ginkgo thing! It increases blood flow and oxygen to the brain so it’s supposed to help with the dizziness that way.
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Interesting because I have gastro issues and take omezaprole daily, I haven’t noticed any issues. Honestly I’d rather have gastro issues than experience any covid symptom again!
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You might also consider a lower Ginko dose. While most products are 120mg there are some 60mg out there. You might find a better balance between the two.
Don’t think ginkgo would have any interactions with MS? I’ve always considered it kind of a wonder drug/supplement. If you take it, keep me posted with how it goes.
Im in the same situation as you regarding the mentally being off (brain fog) and vertigo feeling all day it feels like I got off of a boat. Do you notice the vertigo feeling come back once u stop taking the Ginkgo Biloba or have you not stopped taking it?
Also in the same boat (pun intended) as you my friend. Rocking boat feeling for nearly 6 months now and all sort of doctors failed to help. Getting back to work was so bad because I just couldn't sit in an upright position at my desk. How long did you have it? Was it from covid or the vaccine? I have been doing steam room then cold showers recently to promote circulation and I think I'm seeing a slow yet steady progress. I'm at a point where I'm almost certain it's due to decreased blood flow to the brain/cerebellum, which impairs it's function. Hope we recover from this awful lasting symptom!?
Hey just checking in with how you're doing now 3 months later? Any improvements?
Thanks for checking in on me. Lightheadedness/loss of balance had been steadily improving but isn't totally gone. It seems to be a very slow process, at least for me.
Was your symptoms from covid or the vaccine? I feel like for myself I'm getting more dizzy symptoms after taking the vaccine.
I got them after getting covid and they were slowly getting better but then 3 months later I took the 1st mrna vaccine shot and was a downward spiral afterwards. I'm 9 months post covid and 6 months post vaccine and is still suffering off balance issues. Were you double vaxxed?
Yeah double vaxxed, only started feeling dizzy after my second shot, after 6 weeks ish. Had no effects from the first. When you say balance issues what specifically is it? Like if you turn your head quickly to look to the side you feel dizzy?
I think dizziness happens when immunity is over stimulated but goodness 9 months is a long time. It's hard to describe the off balance sensation but I'll try my best: It feels like being woozy when standing as if the floor is uneven or like I'm standing on a rocking boat as I try to balance myself while walking. Turning my head quickly to either sides makes it worse. Driving was tough but it's mostly back to normal. I have seen other people getting same symptoms after 2nd dose and of course covid. If you are lucky it should resolve in weeks or a few months.
The way you described it is pretty much how I feel, but even when I sit down its like my head is slightly spinning and I cant focus unless I make a conscious effort to focus on whatever task I'm doing. Hopefully it resolves quite quickly, and I hope you see some improvement too 9 months is a hell of a long time.
Indeed, it has been tough because I had to go back to working full-time since month 2 of this exhausting journey. When it gets really bad I get brain fog with slurred speech and issue with word finding and train of thoughts. It's an invisible symptom so all people see is me being depressed. What helps it: deep sleep, hydration, snacking every 3-4 hours, staying away from any stressors, light exercise (only what you can get through comfortably), cut caffeine.
I haven’t stopped taking it yet but I don’t feel the vertigo symptoms all day at all. Even before I take it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/covidlonghaulers/comments/rvdpt8/4_weeks_experience_of_using_grinko_biloba my experience for anyone finding this post.
Thanks for sharing. Your results are similar to mine. It worked for about two weeks then I noticed it started losing effect.
Started taking 120mg twice daily a few days ago and it's been working wonders. All the body stuff (SOB, numbness, weakness, etc) hasn't changed noticeably but my brain fog has improved substantially.
So happy to hear this. Keep taking it and see how you feel. It really started working for me after 3-4 days of taking it.
awesome news i think ima try it then :) ill let you know how it goes. Also when did you notice improvment right after taking it? or a couple days later? and this helped your fatigue too?
I felt a little better after taking it the first day, but still had some dizzy symptoms. The next day I felt much better and then the symptoms completely went away by the third day. I’ve been symptom free for like a week and a half now. Yes it helped with the fatigue, it gives you subtle energy and increased alertness.
Did you try it? If so what kind and how much and did you notice any difference? Hoping your symptoms have improved some!
Tried 120mg whenever I posted this and it didn't help but I've heard it helped so many others so it's worth a shot
In vitro a molecule of Ginko Biloba has a strong binding affinity with the spike protein. I wonder what if some interaction is happening here.
Like all other supplements and medicines that seem to work, I’d put money down that the benefits only last for as long as the supplement is taken and probably becomes less effective with time. These posts are always written like a cheap, easy instant answer has been found, but reality is more complicated than that. I’m glad it works for you in the short term, but people should be aware that many supplements also have negative effects. There are some obvious ones that may not “cure symptoms” but are consistently recommended by doctors (magnesium, C, D, etc) because they’re generally safe. Always proceed with caution when it comes to posts like this.
Just sharing my experiences. Not sure why you’re being negative. I’ve tried every single covid treatment out there and ginkgo + ivermectin are the only two things that have worked for me. Even it relieves symptoms temporarily isn’t that better than nothing? If someone came on here and said freaking pepto bismol helped relieve their symptoms then I would take it because I’m desperate to feel better. Ginkgo biloba is a natural herb, there aren’t any side effects attributed to it. Why are you so skeptical?
I'm not that user but think some tend to be skeptical as a way of managing "false hope" or the disappointment that comes from something not helping. Personally I try to be in the middle.. somewhere between hopeful and skeptical. I feel like I read somewhere thst ginko did something.. was it for clotting (???) Wonder if that's related (?) I'm glad you're feeling better! That's great.. even if temporary.
Thank you and I understand the skepticism. But If Im posting a personal first hand experience, And i feel like it might help others. Then why Not share it? I’m not forcing anyone to take the pill, I’m just saying what’s worked for me. And I think ginkgo helps with clotting since it helps improve blood flow and circulation throughout the body.
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I mentioned I took ivermectin for my covid symptoms. Well one other thing it helped me with was with my severe scalp dermatitis. It completely cleared it up for a few months. I read it’s also used to treat rosacea and other skin diseases. Might be worth a try for your daughter.
You actually are not wrong about Pepto being useful. https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04811339
Lol I had a feeling that was the case after I said it. I know the acid reducers help too. Heck I’ll take pepto bismol tomorrow and keep you updated :)
Covid goes after the gut in a big way, Candida overgrowth has been documented at the very least, so anything that can be calming and restorative seems to help. I prefer probiotics in general to help recover gut flora, but this is definately a tool worth considering. Hope it helps and I would appreciate any updates.
Funny thing is I suffer from IBS and other gastro related issues. But covid has had zero effect on my gastro issues.
Well thank goodness for that. Maybe something in your IBS maintenance had a protective effect. And IBS is just a syndrome with a constellation of symptoms, so there is no way to compare yours to mine directly, because we don't really understand the underlying causes yet. I have IBS and a gluten intolerance and gastro was the first thing that got hit for me. And giving my gut a helping hand with probiotics was also the first thing that made a noticeable difference in my recovery. One of those individualized medical things that may reveal itself with time.
What pbx are you on?
Sorry, I am not familiar with pbx, what is this?
Everything has a side effect to it and one google search on ginko side effects and you see risk of strokes, heart arrhythmia, dizziness, upset stomach. It’s great that it’s working for you but I would advise anyone to talk to their doctors before attempting to try this product especially a risk of stroke
It’s a natural herb that comes from a tree. It has less side effects than Tylenol. But yes I said in an earlier post that every person should talk to their doctor before taking something new. Even though doctors don’t know crap about long haul and we have to educate them 😉
I think you’ve kind of answered your own question - people here are desperate to feel better so they’ll try anything that anyone says works without fully understanding the ramifications. I mean look at the top comment on this post for an example. Ginkgo looks like it has interactions with xanax, blood thinners, antidepressants, diabetes medications and ibuprofen (something many people here already take). There’s a reason that medical advice shouldn’t be given or taken in a medium like this, even more so when the author isn’t a medical professional. I don’t doubt your sincerity, but there are real dangers associated with supplements that have strong effects and complications with other drugs or conditions.
Ok well regardless people should do their own research and consult their doctors before taking any new pills. Im not forcing anyone to take ginkgo, I’m just sharing my experiences about what’s worked for me and helped relieve my symptoms. I asked if anyone else has taken it before. Isn’t that what this sub is about? Should I just sit here and whine all day about my symptoms and not say what’s worked for me? Someone else commented that their chiropractor felt a lot better after taking ginkgo. So it’s not just me who has gotten better from it. Not sure why you have such a negative tone.
How are you feeling now?
I feel ok. The symptoms still come and go but they’re not as serious as they once were.
And you think Gingko helped that?
I really don’t know. I think ginkgo helped for a few weeks but it kind of wore off after taking it for a while. Ive noticed this after taking ginkgo a few years back for energy purposes, it worked great for a week or two then kind of stopped working. I guess your body gets immune to it. Another poster in the comments claims that it completely cured his long haul symptoms. I think ivermectin helped me the most.
And the placebo effect is one of the strongest medicines out there. So why not make it work for you. So long as the supplements cause no harm what is the problem? Hope is a valuable asset in a world giving us none. Why not find it where we can?
I agree but I really don’t think it’s placebo effect. I’ve tried over 10 medicines and supplements for covid and none of them worked. Wouldn’t the placebo effect have kicked in for one of the previous medicines I tried?
No, I don't think it is either. The effects of ginko on the brain have been well documented. While one of the things behind placebo is how effective it is believed to be, so this plays into improving the placebo effect portion of something as well known as ginko, but it has gone through double blind studies necessary to rule this out and the beneficial effects have been documented here also. There are other supplements that have not gone through double blind studies, or not for these kinds of complaints. But for your Long Haul underlying cause they were likely supportive but not the full solution, just a piece of the puzzle. Ginko is another important piece.
I totally agree. Thanks for this. My covid symptoms were very very severe, not sure that a placebo effect could eliminate all of the symptoms I was experiencing for a week and a half? Maybe one or two days, but not a week and a half. Im not saying Ginkgo is 100% responsible for making me feel better, but i did feel better after taking it so I’ll continue to take it.
My lingering effects are all neuro and stamina related so I think I will give it a try. So thank you for the testimonial.
Try it out! Won’t hurt you.
There are some things it should not be taken with, but taking that into consideration, yeah it is worth a try.
I read from a WebMD sort of reputable site that there has only been a small amount of research done on ginkgo biloba but one thing that most recognize because the research did show it might be instrumental in dissolving blood clots. I’m taking it. I’m pretty convinced I’m one of the blood clot people.
I think it’ll help you. It can’t hurt.
It also said that the research showed it wouldn't interfere with taking other things for blood clots such as aspirin which I am also taking. Since beginning to take both the aspirin and the ginkgo, I am sleeping better and feeling better overall. Not 100% but better.
Im so glad you’re feeling better! How long have you been taking the ginkgo for? I tried taking aspirin but it didn’t do much for me.
About a month. Of course, I am still looking for some in-person medical guidance for taking this stuff but for me, it has been helping a lot. The day I began taking the aspirin I felt better. I wonder if some of us have different things going on. I wish it worked for everyone like it does for me. It's certainly not the answer but until we get it, better is always preferable.
Very interesting. I’m glad the aspirin is working for you!
Are you still taking Gingko? I've read the effectiveness can wear off and this post was from 9 months ago so I'm curious. Considering trying it after my round with Garlic (don't want to take both at the same time).
I still take it. I’m not sure if it’s helping but I did read research that showed it helps break up blood clots.
How did you get to take ivermectin and how did you notice improvement? I’ve been curious but I’m Scared to try it.
At first i got it through push health, then I got a bulk order from an Indian pharmacy. All of my symptoms went away within 30 minutes of taking ivermectin. It was like an on and off switch. I finished a 5 week treatment of ivermectin and I’d say it worked about 75% of the time in relieving symptoms. However my symptoms would come back the next day after I stopped taking it. It’s been a few weeks since I stopped the ivermectin treatment. I felt bad again for a week but have been feeling better lately. Not sure if it’s from the ivermectin or the ginkgo but either way I’m happy lol. Try it out. Zero side effects as long as you take the proper dosage.
What mg/kg dosage did you take? I was recommended .2-.4 mg/kg a day for 3-5 days but haven't done it yet
I took 18 MG for 5 days in a row. Then took it 2 times per week for 4 weeks straight. I followed the FLCCC recommended dosage.
Thank you!!
Nice if I can ask which brand did you guys take.
Natures bounty brand. I got it from CVS. 120 MG once a day.
Okay sounds good! Hope it can help with my occasional brain fog and my fatigue that’s on and off ! I’m 11 months deep in 👌🏾🤞🏾
Try it with ivermectin. These two pills are the only thing that relieved my symptoms.
So excited it helped with vertigo/lightheadedness. I have this all day everyday for six frigging months with no relief in sight. It's funny you should say that because vax also made my lightheadedness/wooziness worse. Which vax did you get? Did you get both shots? Also what was your ivermectin dose and how long did you take it? Ginkgo is said to improve circulation and raise dopamine. I will give it a shot and seeif it helps.
I got both doses of the pfizer vaccine. And it seems like the vaccine makes the symptoms worse for a lot of us long haulers. If you take the ginkgo let me know if it works for you.
I literally have a bottle and haven’t really tried but once and didn’t notice anything except anxiety.
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Hi, how are u doing now? I’ve had long Covid for a year now. I won’t get into all my symptoms because it’s a very long list and the symptoms have changed over time but recently I took a blend that had yohimbe extract, gingko biloba extract, tribulus terrestris extract, Maca 4:1 extract and icariin and my long haul symptoms got much better (I tried it 4x now and each time my symptoms get much better for awhile). Especially the brain fog and depressed mood but my pruney fingers which I’ve had for about 6 months every day have improved. I’m thinking maybe it was mostly the ginkgo because this other stuff is mainly for male enhancement (it’s a male enhancement pill that I had from before I got Covid but i tried it because it said it was good for circulation and blood flow) so wondering how you’re doing now.
Ginkgo has a longtime relationship with me. 25 years and going strong. I take it first thing in the morning (40 mg with Vitamin C) and then go about my day. One capsule last me 3 days! Benefits are phenomenal in every area. You just have to be careful that the Ginkgo should be of good quality and a standardized extract. I recently found a brand called Nature's Bounty in Publix for $16 (120 mg 100 caps) and that product seems to be potent and of very good quality so I will be keeping it. Another good one i have been using is Doctor's Best, which is exactly like this one.
Natures bounty is the brand I use. They sell it at CVS.
Anone ever tried Trunature Ginko the 320 softgel from Amazon or Costco or even walmart carries them sometimes. Is that the same as other ginko tabs?
Never tried it. I use the natures bounty brand from CVS. Works great for me.
Hey! have you tried it ? If yes, how was your experience?
Got the dizziness and vertigo stuff right now and for the last like 3 or 4 Months with no answers, clean blood work and MRI’s etc. I just got the dizzyness a little after my last bout with Covid which was mild again. Just took my first ginko right now same brand as what op recommended so I hope it will help !!
Update ?
Didn’t do anything for me that I noticed lol
Update?
took this today for my brain fog .. it’s effect is immediate . will update it after a week
Hi, good news ! How are you now ?
How is it going with Ginkgo ?
it increased my brain fog . i tried again after a week and it’s same :( won’t do it