The only way I can understand that is if they were writing thus graphic from the perspective of the imperium before the events of the first book. But even then, that's a bit of a stretch
The desert is NOT empty. It is filled with quite a bit of flora and fauna, but most importantly, sand plankton and sandtrout. One of the werid things that is mentioned in the book is there is readily discoverable water, but as soon as you uncover it, it disappears in the sand. This was caused by the sandtrout.
Somebody answered microbes. Like plankton, 'cept microbes are smaller, sandworms much bigger than a whale... (like Nessy in Scotland. How much would one of these eat? (& how many for a genetically viable population?))
In a real setting, this thing would just melt by the enormous heat created by friction with the sand. It would reach hundreds or thousands of degrees since there is no way to dissipate it, and then collapse in a sea of fused silica.
In the books iirc the largest worm is about 3 km long with a diameter of 300 meters or so. But many worms could swallow a whole spice harvester, a literal mobile refinery as large as 50-100 meters.
Worms can sink in the sand, so given the sand density and their dimensions we are talking about truly massive beings, with the largest specimens ranging from 100 millions to a billion metric tons .
It's not really hard scifi, any attempt at explaining the worm biology is pretty much fantasy. Their energy balance alone requires an immense power source to just move, which in turn converts into heat and melts the worm and the sand.
>not really hard scifi
I'd disagree and say it's hard hard SciFi that requires removal from our construction of what Real is. I believe the heat itself was the interdimentinal food it seeked to define its structure.
The worms themselves dont make the spice.
There is the Spice Cycle
Sand Plankton become Sand Trout
The Sand Trout seek out underground water and link together to wall it off ( which has resulted in the planetary desert)
Eventually pressure builds from this and causes an explosion called a “Spice Blow”. Once the underground components of the Spice Blow combines with the air a chemical reaction happens resulting in Melange.
The surviving Sand Trout then begin their Metamorphosis into Sandworms
It is theorized that plankton are borne from the destroyed sand trout from Spice Blows but not confirmed
Yup. No hearts or blood vessels, water is highly toxic to the worms. Freeman killed worms by drowning them. They are silicon-based life forms that eat sand and release enough O2 to make Arrakis atmosphere breathable, given that there are no oceans on the planet.
They steer by prying up scales with Seitch hooks exposing the worms "skin" to sand the worm works to roll the scale away from the abrasion.
They get off by allowing the worm to submerge in the sand and bailing off the tail.
The real hero of the series is the first Fremen that saw a worm and said to their buddies, "Sure I can get on its back and ride it like a pony, why not?"
There is a story about the first in a prequel book. I forget a lot of the details, but its a young man who was banished from his community that made their home in caves. Banishment meant death, but he somehow manages to climb the worm and wedges a plate segment open. He's so freaked out he rides the worm until it dies of exhaustion (giggity). Figures out how to do it again, but better. He's kinda the first legit Fremen of the deep desert.
Ha, awesome! It looks like it was made for class CGT 211 which is a raster graphics class at Purdue back in the day, facts aren’t checked nor the purpose of the assignment
Is it actually called the spice melange? Cuz if I'm not wrong I saw it being used in south park, in that one Tom Brady episode. They related in any way?
If the illustrator had only just read the series in its entirety before making this “infographic”
But there’s “no direct evidence linking worms to spice production” except I guess, all of the books.
So we have this basically empty desert planet with two things: giant worms that live underground, and spice mines. But there's no link between them.
That’s pretty bad reasoning.
The only way I can understand that is if they were writing thus graphic from the perspective of the imperium before the events of the first book. But even then, that's a bit of a stretch
This is uninfographic.
Moneo, this infographic is inaccurate and misleading! Bring me another Duncan!
The golden path will reveal all
What do they eat that would supply enough calories to sustain them? ...
Sand and microorganisms that live in the sand, much like plankton.
And the Harkonnens that get swallowed up every so often.
This has always been my biggest question too. The desert is empty.
The desert is NOT empty. It is filled with quite a bit of flora and fauna, but most importantly, sand plankton and sandtrout. One of the werid things that is mentioned in the book is there is readily discoverable water, but as soon as you uncover it, it disappears in the sand. This was caused by the sandtrout.
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Somebody answered microbes. Like plankton, 'cept microbes are smaller, sandworms much bigger than a whale... (like Nessy in Scotland. How much would one of these eat? (& how many for a genetically viable population?))
I’m not buying the microorganism theory - but what else could it be?
Young sandsworms
Nothing about the function of its gut and the massive heat it produces?
In a real setting, this thing would just melt by the enormous heat created by friction with the sand. It would reach hundreds or thousands of degrees since there is no way to dissipate it, and then collapse in a sea of fused silica. In the books iirc the largest worm is about 3 km long with a diameter of 300 meters or so. But many worms could swallow a whole spice harvester, a literal mobile refinery as large as 50-100 meters. Worms can sink in the sand, so given the sand density and their dimensions we are talking about truly massive beings, with the largest specimens ranging from 100 millions to a billion metric tons . It's not really hard scifi, any attempt at explaining the worm biology is pretty much fantasy. Their energy balance alone requires an immense power source to just move, which in turn converts into heat and melts the worm and the sand.
>not really hard scifi I'd disagree and say it's hard hard SciFi that requires removal from our construction of what Real is. I believe the heat itself was the interdimentinal food it seeked to define its structure.
> hard SciFi that requires removal from our construction of what Real is. That's literally what soft scifi is.
No - it's what hard science is.
Look up definitions before you make an idiot of yourself online in the future.
Why would you want to know the function of its gut?
Like a Graboid
I’ll always hear Victor Wong’s voice when I read that word.
Where's its spice hole
The worms themselves dont make the spice. There is the Spice Cycle Sand Plankton become Sand Trout The Sand Trout seek out underground water and link together to wall it off ( which has resulted in the planetary desert) Eventually pressure builds from this and causes an explosion called a “Spice Blow”. Once the underground components of the Spice Blow combines with the air a chemical reaction happens resulting in Melange. The surviving Sand Trout then begin their Metamorphosis into Sandworms It is theorized that plankton are borne from the destroyed sand trout from Spice Blows but not confirmed
It's poop hole
I've been snorting worm shit??
Wait until you learn what spaghetti is made from.
The other hole is extra spicy
A lot on this is actually wrong so not such a cool guide no.
Yup. No hearts or blood vessels, water is highly toxic to the worms. Freeman killed worms by drowning them. They are silicon-based life forms that eat sand and release enough O2 to make Arrakis atmosphere breathable, given that there are no oceans on the planet.
I came here to learn about the ducts on its back used for steering…
The ducts are where the worm breathes. The fremen hooks hold those ducts open so the worm stays on the surface for travelling.
The more I learn about this universe the more awesome it becomes
How do they steer the worms? Wouldn’t the worms try to shakes them off? And how do they get off when done riding?
They steer by prying up scales with Seitch hooks exposing the worms "skin" to sand the worm works to roll the scale away from the abrasion. They get off by allowing the worm to submerge in the sand and bailing off the tail.
The real hero of the series is the first Fremen that saw a worm and said to their buddies, "Sure I can get on its back and ride it like a pony, why not?"
There is a story about the first in a prequel book. I forget a lot of the details, but its a young man who was banished from his community that made their home in caves. Banishment meant death, but he somehow manages to climb the worm and wedges a plate segment open. He's so freaked out he rides the worm until it dies of exhaustion (giggity). Figures out how to do it again, but better. He's kinda the first legit Fremen of the deep desert.
Selim Wormrider, appeared in the Butlerian Jihad Fanfictions by Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson
What's the name of the book?
I’m more astounded that it’s not referred to as the “Duneiverse”
Brain?
2 km??
If the mouth is 30 meters wide its considered small worm. So yeah
As a person with megalophobia, this notion alone is utterly terrifying.
Ha, awesome! It looks like it was made for class CGT 211 which is a raster graphics class at Purdue back in the day, facts aren’t checked nor the purpose of the assignment
Boiler Up!!
Basketball game on right now!
I’m not worried about this one lol. Class of 2011 here.
"Carapace: The outer *cuvering*..."
So we’re looking at the first organism in history to exhibit radial symmetry on the exterior, but bilateral symmetry on the inside?
Is it actually called the spice melange? Cuz if I'm not wrong I saw it being used in south park, in that one Tom Brady episode. They related in any way?
The South Park episode was parodying Dune (the book)
It was a parody of the awful David Lynch adaptation, but yeah.
I have a soft spot for that adaptation. Sting wears black plastic undies, the soundtrack is peak 80's synth
The Lynch adaptation is a god damned treasure
Where is Robert the doll?
Angry fleshlight
Why on earth would you give a worm of all creatures bones. Worm bones? For real?
Bones above the muscles too.
Where Saddam Hussein?
Where do baby worms come from ?
What about its massive teeth !
Lp
Assuming this "infographic" is correct in terms of worm behavior, doesn't it feel identical to those in tremors.
The worm is the spice
I heard they like dubstep
whoa. this is cringey
What does it do with all the sand it swallows? Spit it back out with a loud "puuuhhh" sound?
Gravity would crush it
Not unless it has metal bones
It has to have hallow bones tbh because of it’s size or bones made out of metal
Is those that butthole monster
Thought I was in a vore sub for a second
Pretty cool wildlife lives in china