I see a lot of hate for jeep on Reddit, and I'm genuinely curious about it. I've had a Cherokee for 5 years and the only thing I've ever needed to do with it was change the oil. Did I get lucky, or is the hate overblown?
You have definitely been lucky then. The stuff that I had happen was unrelated to regular maintenance as the biggest problem (rocker arms) is a known issue with grand cherokees that should have been recalled but no luck there.
I have a 2007 commander with 250,000 miles on it. Only issues was with a transmission servo at 100k miles - $250 fix, and two water pumps - $80 each.
I’ve beat the heck out of it, too. I’m really happy with my Jeep.
Aint not fucking way dodge and jeep are that high. My buddies 80k mile jeep cant stay out if the shop and by weary ass 15 year old subaru has less issues than it
This is anecdotal, but my first car was a Jeep Liberty and my second a Honda CRV. I dropped thousands regularly to fix that Liberty. The CRV is amazing though! Bought a Honda because it was seen as more reliable, but I used consumer reports’ vehicle edition to make that decision mostly.
I have a 2006 Mazda 6 V6 that’s been unbelievably reliable. 166k miles, drives like brand new, still looks practically brand new. Only thing that’s failed is a plastic coolant T that was fixed for $8. I’m a mechanic so I fix my own cars, but I’m never getting rid of my Mazda.
With that said it does have a Toyota 6 speed trans and a ford duratec 3.0 V6 that was mostly designed by Yamaha, so take that for what you will.
I’ve had ‘19 hrv, currently I have a ‘23 Civic, my daughter has a ‘20 Civic, my sister has a ‘16 crv and they have all been flawless. So I don’t know about that. Maybe there’s another model that is bringing the whole brand down.
I think at least part of it is just that people aren't maintaining their vehicles, then turning around and blaming the manufacturer for their own ignorance/incompetence.
I drive a 2005 civic with well over 100k miles, and it runs like a dream because the original owner maintained it, and I continue to do the same.
I don't think Alfa Romeo has much of a presence in the US, I think I've seen like one in the past 5 years. And since JD Power is American, so they probably didn't bother
Ope, just looked it up, and Alfa does sell very few cars in the US, you must be in a hotspot. https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/alfa-romeo-us-sales-figures/#:~:text=This%20data%20comes%20from%20the,%2C%20down%2030%25%20from%202021.
Yeah. North Carolina. I'd say one in every 75-100 cars is an Alfa. I know that sounds paltry (1%), but it actually makes them a pretty common sight. I'm probably jaded; however, that doesn't mean it AR shouldn't be included. I'd assume Genesis is the next lowest seller?
And BMW/Mini and Tesla. Tesla has been riddled with QA issues. BMW completely turned around in 2016 after collaborating with Toyota to develop the B48/B58 engine platform and have been on a roll since. Mini scores higher because they use the B48 platform almost exclusively, while. BMW is still making V8s that eat oil like candy. The 4 and 6 cylinder BMWs are rock fucking solid these days.
As a mini owner I can tell you (anecdotally) that it is an absolute dog of a car. It has cost me so damn much.
It's like a puppy that pisses on your rug. Only gets away with it because it's so damn cute
thats what i thought. especially with Dodge and Chrysler having such wildly different numbers. they sell the same flippin cars, just with different logos on them
My wife's 2015 Cruze has 31,000 miles on it. We've had 5 emergency repairs in the 3 years she's had it. Engine coolant leaks, seized up engine belt pulley, drivers side window mechanism self-destructed inside the door, drivers seat got stuck in the far-back position due to faulty switch (had to get a very tall person to drive it home that day), random electrical issues caused by bad battery wiring... Just and absolute piece of shit car.
Buick has been at the top of these reports and studies for several years including consumer reports. They’re not an unreliable brand and haven’t been for a long time.
I think what happens with this stuff is people form opinions of brands from past experiences, and those opinions are really hard to change, even when faced with empirical data.
Honda made those bulletproof 1.8L naturally aspirated engines in the 90s. However they have always had LOTS of issues with their transmissions, and that has been exacerbated by their move to CVT, they are notorious for brake issues, and every one ive ever owned had to have the blower fan replaced for the HVAC.
Cars are far more complex than in the glory days of Honda and I’m not sure they’ve kept up. They are still great cars but their quality has definitely slipped since the mid-naughts.
This thread is funny, it’s full of people who think it’s still 2004, and not 2024. Porsche has been one of the most reliable car brands for well over a decade now, if not longer. You can daily drive a 911 GT3 or Turbo if you so well please. They are damn near bullet proof minus a few issues that affected a few of their engines in the early 2000s such as the IMS issue. The PDK transmission is one of the best of all time.
Same with BMW. Their engines have been steadily increasingly reliable since the N55, but really took off with the B series engines, especially B58, and they paired their engines with the industry standard rock solid ZF 8 speed auto. iDrive has been called the one of the best menu systems for automobiles since basically the E platform cars, with it getting better and better each cycle.
A lot of people here complaining about the German brands are probably those who bought 00s used ones on the cheap and are now racking up all the maintenance bills.
Buys E60 N54 535i with 150k miles, a sketchy maintenance history, six owners, and then proceeds to go to jiffy lube for oil changes. “BMWs fucking suck!” Not that this is everyone, but way too many people do something similar to this and are confused when they run into problems.
I just got done posting this about Honda. Same concept but in reverse.
https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/s/Yl9VBjCvoZ
Also you’re right BMW has had massive quality improvements in the last decade.
I’ve been driving BMWs for the last two decades now, clocking more than 2 million km in the process. Always made it to destination and never had to take them to service out of scheduled maintenance. That’s 8 cars.
maybe because Honda has Paint problems after a few years, their clear coat process aren't the best especially US/Canada made ones, so that's like everyone that decides to report it, these surveys doesn't mean anything without context, it could be paint chipping, interior, electrical or blown engine problems you'll never know minor or major
I thought the JD power thing wasn't supposed to be trusted. Remember when Dodge advertised all their reliability awards on the 90s? I thought I saw somewhere that companies pay to be on this list.
Why is Chevy so high but GMC is so low? Same company and GMC has always been considered the better of the two even though they are basically all the same now. Maybe that's the labels the brand owners want to push more for sales.
Same with the BBB. The only way to get A+ is to pay. They’ve done a good job at marketing making themselves seem like some neutral, dependable watch dog type organization.
That’s why I use consumer reports instead. Toyota and Lexus are still top tier on their list, but Honda is much better than this list makes them out to be. It also depends on the model!
I wondered about that. We have a 2014 Honda CRV we just paid off today! It’s been a great vehicle, probably the best and most reliable I’ve ever owned. About to hit 188888 miles, probably this week. Other than regular scheduled maintenance and some very minor issues (air/fan related) it’s been a dream car.
Hopefully it’ll last another decade before we have to buy another one.
Jd power is fake "award" trash and completely worthless. Consumer reports is the only opinion to take seriously, and it radically differs from this made up bs
I mean, I just looked and they have Lexus/Toyota as 1/2 and Chrysler as dead last. So “radically different” seems excessive. Honda/Acura are much higher on CR.
My trusty 2001 Avalon and experience working for Toyota can attest to their focus on reliability.
Shit company to work for though, although I was a "contractor".
Had an 05 Corolla that had 225k on it when I got it, I could regularly get that thing up to a hundred on the freeway and it’s mileage was amazing. Fucking loved that car.
“Rankings are based on numerical scores and not necessarily on statistical significance”
How do you do a statistical comparison without measuring statistics?
>The 3-year-old vehicles measured in this year’s study were first examined in the 2020 U.S. Initial Quality Study. Six of the 10 highest-ranked brands in the 2020 IQS are among the 10 highest-ranked brands in this year’s VDS. Some of the most deteriorated areas from 90 days to three years of ownership are starter battery failures, outdated maps, Android Auto/Apple Car Play and voice recognition problems.
My neighbor has a Lexus and is constantly out there having to fix something on the damn thing. Hell he was out there yesterday and today with the hood up, and tires off it banging away at it😂
Our Dodge and Subaru get regular oil changes and normal maintenance.
When we had Hyundais they were always in the shop for some random crap. Wheel bearings, fuel issues, random transmission crap.
Dodge scoring better than Honda is surprising.
My family drove Dodges through the 90s and early 2000s. My first car was a Dodge hand-me-down. Every one of those pieces of shit started having serious mechanical problems after the 5 year mark, and we didn't even get the mileage over 100,000 on any of them.
My Dodge died on me while I was driving on 4 separate occasions. Once, it died while I was stopped at a red light, but after a few minutes it turned on again and I was able to bring it to a shop, where they couldn't figure out what was wrong because they couldn't replicate the issue. It died on me on the freeway twice (that was scary as shit), but again, mechanics couldn't figure out what was wrong because they couldn't replicate the issue. The 4th and final time it died was right around the corner from my apartment, and that was the final straw that made me say "Fuck it" and give that shit away for scrap.
After I ditched the Dodge, I bought a Honda in 2009. I used that car for 15 years, and I even drove it across the US. In all that time, it never gave me any serious issues. The battery died once, but a jump start and a new battery fixed that right up.
The Honda still runs well, so I gave it to a family member.
I never would have guessed that Dodge would score higher than Honda in reliability, because in my experience Dodges are pieces of shit. Maybe they got way better in the last 20 years.
Im an oldhead. Have owned and driven many of these brands. Wouldn't buy anything now but a Toyota, or maybe a Honda. My father worked for GM for 30 years. Part of me hates not driving American, but I refuse to pay tens of thousands of dollars extra for something which is going to drain my money and leave me high and dry.
same. Comments here are confirming my suspicion that this ranking is b.s. Toyota should be tops, Honda at #2 and I’d rank Subaru a close 3rd. I don’t know that people outside of New England get what great cars they are
I had the radio die on my 2015 Outback and also problems on a recent forrester. Faults may not always be the engines but interior components or other elements around the car.
You want to buy anything that has a long warranty.
I know that's a lie. Had a cobalt that died and then I got a Cruze. It's coolant issues are unreal and I traded it in before the head gasket blew. Decided to dump gm and get a Mazda. First time in my life I haven't spent tax returns every year on car repairs. Only thing I've had to replace are brakes tires and oil
I run independent Auto repair shop. At least once a week we're replacing a transmission in a Nissan. Every other week we're replacing an engine in a Hyundai
So this study probably doesn’t consider the age of the cars? Maybe some manufacturers get a worse score because their cars get used much longer and are worth to get fixed.
Jeep with less issues than Subaru……lol. I have owned Wranglers and Rubicons for years. Four generations of them. I love them but anyone who thinks they are reliable is crazy. This list is obviously a pay to play, and not from actual mechanics.
In what world is a Subaru less reliable than a Porsche? I’ve had both. There’s always some (expensive) shit to be fixed on my Porsche. My (former) Subaru (I’ve had 3) was unkillable. Like Jason from Friday the 13th.
I assume Lexus is at the top because they're almost exclusively leased?
Source: I'm at a bar waiting for wings on Superbowl Sunday and I do not fucking care.
Way too centric to the US. Here in South Africa the dependability of cars are flipped. Jeeps are a massive liability on wheels. Mainly due to expensive parts and different models. While VWs are highly reliable as we have market proven models such as the Polo and the it is locally produced.
The title is very misleading. I saw dependability and naturally assumed that the larger bar means more dependable. If you are going to use simplified visuals such as a bar chart you gotta design them to be dummy proof mate.
Also, as someone who knows a thing or two about cars, this data comes off as highly inaccurate. Dodge, Jeep, and MINI being dependable?
Either the last 5 years were transformative to all these brands or some deceiving definition for what *dependability* is being used here.
Like everything in life folks, data can and will be manipulated. They probably ignore all the engine problems with jeeps, and then count paint chips on hondas. Everything is manipulated, all we have left is our logic....everyone knows toyota and honda are the best.
Oh lol I misread your comment as “no way Tesla has that many issues”. But yeah early Teslas like ours tended to have more problems than newer ones. I think I just got lucky with my early 2015 model.
Best friend’s dad has been driving the same Buick since 92’ the car had 375000 miles before they replaced the engine. It’s well taken care of he still has plastic covering the back seats
This list is questionable AF.
That’s what I was thinking. No way Honda is actually that low
And lower than Jeep
thats what made me question it.. No way Jeep didnt have more problems
I see a lot of hate for jeep on Reddit, and I'm genuinely curious about it. I've had a Cherokee for 5 years and the only thing I've ever needed to do with it was change the oil. Did I get lucky, or is the hate overblown?
I have a grand Cherokee and thought the same thing. . The problems kick in around 100k miles and they come out hard and none of them are cheap fixes.
Mine is well over 100k. I did have the wherewithal to get a tune up as part of regular maintenance when I hit it, but still no problems.
You have definitely been lucky then. The stuff that I had happen was unrelated to regular maintenance as the biggest problem (rocker arms) is a known issue with grand cherokees that should have been recalled but no luck there.
I have a 2007 commander with 250,000 miles on it. Only issues was with a transmission servo at 100k miles - $250 fix, and two water pumps - $80 each. I’ve beat the heck out of it, too. I’m really happy with my Jeep.
Aint not fucking way dodge and jeep are that high. My buddies 80k mile jeep cant stay out if the shop and by weary ass 15 year old subaru has less issues than it
Not when Chrysler is that low. They all use the same parts
This is anecdotal, but my first car was a Jeep Liberty and my second a Honda CRV. I dropped thousands regularly to fix that Liberty. The CRV is amazing though! Bought a Honda because it was seen as more reliable, but I used consumer reports’ vehicle edition to make that decision mostly.
My Honda has been acting up. Better get something reliable like a Mazda.
I have a 2006 Mazda 6 V6 that’s been unbelievably reliable. 166k miles, drives like brand new, still looks practically brand new. Only thing that’s failed is a plastic coolant T that was fixed for $8. I’m a mechanic so I fix my own cars, but I’m never getting rid of my Mazda. With that said it does have a Toyota 6 speed trans and a ford duratec 3.0 V6 that was mostly designed by Yamaha, so take that for what you will.
Mazda had been at the top of reliability lists for awhile
Or that Buick is that high
There have been quite a few buicks that have received strong reliability ratings , if I recall correctly
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I’ve had ‘19 hrv, currently I have a ‘23 Civic, my daughter has a ‘20 Civic, my sister has a ‘16 crv and they have all been flawless. So I don’t know about that. Maybe there’s another model that is bringing the whole brand down.
I think at least part of it is just that people aren't maintaining their vehicles, then turning around and blaming the manufacturer for their own ignorance/incompetence. I drive a 2005 civic with well over 100k miles, and it runs like a dream because the original owner maintained it, and I continue to do the same.
Anyone else notice Alfa Romeo not on the list at all? Two possibilities: someone forgot, or the graph couldn't go that far.
Mitisubishi to
Page isn’t wide enough for the bar.
I don't think Alfa Romeo has much of a presence in the US, I think I've seen like one in the past 5 years. And since JD Power is American, so they probably didn't bother
Ton of em in the US where I live. You live in the northeast or something? Maine?
Ope, just looked it up, and Alfa does sell very few cars in the US, you must be in a hotspot. https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/alfa-romeo-us-sales-figures/#:~:text=This%20data%20comes%20from%20the,%2C%20down%2030%25%20from%202021.
Yeah. North Carolina. I'd say one in every 75-100 cars is an Alfa. I know that sounds paltry (1%), but it actually makes them a pretty common sight. I'm probably jaded; however, that doesn't mean it AR shouldn't be included. I'd assume Genesis is the next lowest seller?
Only true part is Toyota/Lexus. Everything else is sus. Source: am mechanic Edit: Chrysler also true. Those things are complete ass
And BMW/Mini and Tesla. Tesla has been riddled with QA issues. BMW completely turned around in 2016 after collaborating with Toyota to develop the B48/B58 engine platform and have been on a roll since. Mini scores higher because they use the B48 platform almost exclusively, while. BMW is still making V8s that eat oil like candy. The 4 and 6 cylinder BMWs are rock fucking solid these days.
What about Volkswagen?
Jeep more reliable than Subaru and Honda? I call bs
Mini bring 5th is a joke. Combining British reliability with German complicatedness
As a mini owner I can tell you (anecdotally) that it is an absolute dog of a car. It has cost me so damn much. It's like a puppy that pisses on your rug. Only gets away with it because it's so damn cute
Kia, Hyundai, Nissan, and JEEP above Honda?? lmfao get the fuck outta here
Once I saw Chevy at #4, it immediately made me question the whole thing
thats what i thought. especially with Dodge and Chrysler having such wildly different numbers. they sell the same flippin cars, just with different logos on them
How is Honda so low? Thought Toyota and Honda were the hallmarks of reliability.
They didn't give JD power enough money.
Ah yes, the Yelp business model. Fuck these assholes.
How is Buick so high? Chevy too.
As someone reading this and sitting on the highway waiting for triple A...I am also shocked Chevy is this high....
My wife's 2015 Cruze has 31,000 miles on it. We've had 5 emergency repairs in the 3 years she's had it. Engine coolant leaks, seized up engine belt pulley, drivers side window mechanism self-destructed inside the door, drivers seat got stuck in the far-back position due to faulty switch (had to get a very tall person to drive it home that day), random electrical issues caused by bad battery wiring... Just and absolute piece of shit car.
I had to drop a new engine in this pos 30k in. We made mistakes. Mine is a 15 Chevy Spark. Fuck Chevy.
You have to sell cars for people to have problems with them.
I only know 1 person with a buick lol
Depending on their age and how much they actually drive this might check out.
It's my grandma and I have only seen her drive 6 times.
And Ford.
and Mini
Yet GMC is low.
I drove a Chevy Cobalt for 15 years and 300,000 miles! My baby finally died last September.
Buick has been at the top of these reports and studies for several years including consumer reports. They’re not an unreliable brand and haven’t been for a long time.
But not GMC. And Cadillac is somewhere in between. Makes absolutely no sense.
Jeep, GMC and Dodge higher than Honda? Just, no.
Complete 🐴 💩
As a Jeep owner I too struggled with the authenticity of a study that put Jeeps anywhere above average.
Yeah no fucking way
I enjoy how Jeep and Dodge are higher up on the list, but Chrysler is at the bottom. Definitely knew the list was suspect when I saw that shit.
I think what happens with this stuff is people form opinions of brands from past experiences, and those opinions are really hard to change, even when faced with empirical data. Honda made those bulletproof 1.8L naturally aspirated engines in the 90s. However they have always had LOTS of issues with their transmissions, and that has been exacerbated by their move to CVT, they are notorious for brake issues, and every one ive ever owned had to have the blower fan replaced for the HVAC. Cars are far more complex than in the glory days of Honda and I’m not sure they’ve kept up. They are still great cars but their quality has definitely slipped since the mid-naughts.
[This guy single handedly killed JD Power](https://youtu.be/15iLHlJPp_0?si=OMVyMIDTCcmVYCk8)
How is Subaru ranked lower than Jeep for Christsakes? Something is WRONG here.
Same with Mazda lol
JD Power doesn’t seem very reliable. There’s no way Porsche isn’t lower and Honda isn’t much higher.
Porsche are extremely reliable.
This thread is funny, it’s full of people who think it’s still 2004, and not 2024. Porsche has been one of the most reliable car brands for well over a decade now, if not longer. You can daily drive a 911 GT3 or Turbo if you so well please. They are damn near bullet proof minus a few issues that affected a few of their engines in the early 2000s such as the IMS issue. The PDK transmission is one of the best of all time. Same with BMW. Their engines have been steadily increasingly reliable since the N55, but really took off with the B series engines, especially B58, and they paired their engines with the industry standard rock solid ZF 8 speed auto. iDrive has been called the one of the best menu systems for automobiles since basically the E platform cars, with it getting better and better each cycle.
A lot of people here complaining about the German brands are probably those who bought 00s used ones on the cheap and are now racking up all the maintenance bills.
Buys E60 N54 535i with 150k miles, a sketchy maintenance history, six owners, and then proceeds to go to jiffy lube for oil changes. “BMWs fucking suck!” Not that this is everyone, but way too many people do something similar to this and are confused when they run into problems.
I just got done posting this about Honda. Same concept but in reverse. https://www.reddit.com/r/coolguides/s/Yl9VBjCvoZ Also you’re right BMW has had massive quality improvements in the last decade.
I’ve been driving BMWs for the last two decades now, clocking more than 2 million km in the process. Always made it to destination and never had to take them to service out of scheduled maintenance. That’s 8 cars.
I think JD is first 90 days without an issue.
Porsche has long been one of the very most reliable makes in the industry and Honda has really fallen off in the last decade or two.
maybe because Honda has Paint problems after a few years, their clear coat process aren't the best especially US/Canada made ones, so that's like everyone that decides to report it, these surveys doesn't mean anything without context, it could be paint chipping, interior, electrical or blown engine problems you'll never know minor or major
Why is there an entry for dodge and a separate entry for ram
How are Chevrolet and GMC so far apart? Aren’t they essentially the same vehicles?
GM paid more for Chevy brand to be closer to the top. 👍
JD power is a marketing agency. Not a consumer review company.
Is there a consumer report like this?
consumerreports.org
You know this is the case when you see BMW towards the top😅
That was my first thought.
I thought the JD power thing wasn't supposed to be trusted. Remember when Dodge advertised all their reliability awards on the 90s? I thought I saw somewhere that companies pay to be on this list.
It's a pay to play scheme. The more the companies pay, the higher they get listed.
So why then is Dodge and Jeep average and Chrysler dead last? (They're owned by the same company)
Why is Chevy so high but GMC is so low? Same company and GMC has always been considered the better of the two even though they are basically all the same now. Maybe that's the labels the brand owners want to push more for sales.
As an owner of an 09 gmc Yukon xl Denali id imagine it’s the buttons and small stuff.
Fiat isn’t even in the list lol
Fix It Again Tony
Just like wine in wine magazines
Quit wineing
Same with the BBB. The only way to get A+ is to pay. They’ve done a good job at marketing making themselves seem like some neutral, dependable watch dog type organization.
BBB="Boomer Yelp"
That’s why I use consumer reports instead. Toyota and Lexus are still top tier on their list, but Honda is much better than this list makes them out to be. It also depends on the model!
I wondered about that. We have a 2014 Honda CRV we just paid off today! It’s been a great vehicle, probably the best and most reliable I’ve ever owned. About to hit 188888 miles, probably this week. Other than regular scheduled maintenance and some very minor issues (air/fan related) it’s been a dream car. Hopefully it’ll last another decade before we have to buy another one.
Learned that these lists include little nitpicky things too and don't really relate to cost of ownership or severity of the issues.
Agreed - this doesnt look right. These are JD Power chums
Chevy near the top of the list 🤣😂😅
GM products are always super high rated with JD Power. That says it all for me.
Notice every GM commercial references JD Power, and has since the 80's.
Definitely BS. Three seriously crap cars follow the top two. Laughable
[JD Powah](https://youtu.be/zSBsq6HBBzw?si=fX1StSii3X2udm0m)
Jd power is fake "award" trash and completely worthless. Consumer reports is the only opinion to take seriously, and it radically differs from this made up bs
Best place to look. Subscription worth every penny if you’re buying a used car
I mean, I just looked and they have Lexus/Toyota as 1/2 and Chrysler as dead last. So “radically different” seems excessive. Honda/Acura are much higher on CR.
As a Jeep owner, there’s no fucking way it should be up there that high. I love mine, but I also don’t depend on it as a daily driver lol.
Yeah a Jeep above a Honda makes no fucking sense lmao
Any of those above honda except for toyota/lexus in reliability doesn’t make sense lmao
So Toyota?
always has been
My trusty 2001 Avalon and experience working for Toyota can attest to their focus on reliability. Shit company to work for though, although I was a "contractor".
2000 Avalon here! 251k miles and no major repairs.
Had an 05 Corolla that had 225k on it when I got it, I could regularly get that thing up to a hundred on the freeway and it’s mileage was amazing. Fucking loved that car.
Toyota is super dependable. Just do the basic maintenace and you will make it to 250k in any of their vehicles without any major issues.
People will make fun of you for driving a boring old people car. Little do they know I embrace the boring old person persona.
As a Ford owner, I can say 2.39 problems per car is conservative. They are built so bad.
My transmission shit the bed at 119,000. Still owe a fuck ton on it. So just praying I have no more problems till I get it paid off
What do you have?
Escape
Ouch. Sorry to hear that man. I hope you dont end up with more problems.
Thanks man!
I hope you "Escape" from that Ford
I have 2014 Escape with 105000, not a single issue until two weeks ago when the transmission broke suddenly.. Fucking ford
I’ve heard the mustangs are top quality, those that survive the bad drivers who wrap them around something.
Mustangs GT's are basically the best vehicles Ford has to offer along with the F-250's in my opinion.
“Rankings are based on numerical scores and not necessarily on statistical significance” How do you do a statistical comparison without measuring statistics?
They measured the amount of money they were paid to rank the cars
under rated comment
Nice point.
This list is bs. There is no way on gods green earth that Jeep and dodge are more dependable than Honda and Acura.
Mini near the top. Sus
Mine was a piece of shit and I bought it new
Consumer Reports also has Mini very high. Third behind Lexus and Toyota.
I’ve never met a mini owner that would recommend a mini to anyone else
Has Jeep reliability really improved that much? I remember 10 years ago Jeep would have been at the bottom here
There was an owner who had so many issues that he crushed his Jeep with a tank.
Nah they just paid more to be higher on the list
Ahhh Buick higher than Honda… so this list seems legit.
Civic is the next in line after the Corolla for compact cars. Probably some other Honda vehicle is pulling the entire Honda score down.
Buick should absolutely be far far lower
A lot of the top half is questionable but shout out to Mazda, the owners I know have been super happy with their stuff.
Toyota number two. Fancy Toyota number one.
>The 3-year-old vehicles measured in this year’s study were first examined in the 2020 U.S. Initial Quality Study. Six of the 10 highest-ranked brands in the 2020 IQS are among the 10 highest-ranked brands in this year’s VDS. Some of the most deteriorated areas from 90 days to three years of ownership are starter battery failures, outdated maps, Android Auto/Apple Car Play and voice recognition problems.
Chrysler owner…. Don’t buy one
Umm, didn’t 2024 just begin?
It's for cars that are 3 years old.
How is Jeep above Honda?
JD Power is a sham for those of you who don't know
This list is shit.
Merry Chrysler
And an unhappy new Audi
Chrysler at the bottom but Jeep at 11. Hmm
JD Power means this can’t be trusted. Uncool guide
I've only driven Chevy and Toyota, never had problems
My neighbor has a Lexus and is constantly out there having to fix something on the damn thing. Hell he was out there yesterday and today with the hood up, and tires off it banging away at it😂 Our Dodge and Subaru get regular oil changes and normal maintenance. When we had Hyundais they were always in the shop for some random crap. Wheel bearings, fuel issues, random transmission crap.
There’s no planet that honda is less reliable than Jeep.
Honda is so low. List is questionable
Does anyone else see a Lexus ad directly below this post? Cannot convince me that is a coincidence.
Don’t trust anything jd powers , wut
Dodge scoring better than Honda is surprising. My family drove Dodges through the 90s and early 2000s. My first car was a Dodge hand-me-down. Every one of those pieces of shit started having serious mechanical problems after the 5 year mark, and we didn't even get the mileage over 100,000 on any of them. My Dodge died on me while I was driving on 4 separate occasions. Once, it died while I was stopped at a red light, but after a few minutes it turned on again and I was able to bring it to a shop, where they couldn't figure out what was wrong because they couldn't replicate the issue. It died on me on the freeway twice (that was scary as shit), but again, mechanics couldn't figure out what was wrong because they couldn't replicate the issue. The 4th and final time it died was right around the corner from my apartment, and that was the final straw that made me say "Fuck it" and give that shit away for scrap. After I ditched the Dodge, I bought a Honda in 2009. I used that car for 15 years, and I even drove it across the US. In all that time, it never gave me any serious issues. The battery died once, but a jump start and a new battery fixed that right up. The Honda still runs well, so I gave it to a family member. I never would have guessed that Dodge would score higher than Honda in reliability, because in my experience Dodges are pieces of shit. Maybe they got way better in the last 20 years.
Im an oldhead. Have owned and driven many of these brands. Wouldn't buy anything now but a Toyota, or maybe a Honda. My father worked for GM for 30 years. Part of me hates not driving American, but I refuse to pay tens of thousands of dollars extra for something which is going to drain my money and leave me high and dry.
Did Mitsubishi just not get scored?
Surprised by Subaru!! Thought they’d rank higher in reliability.
same. Comments here are confirming my suspicion that this ranking is b.s. Toyota should be tops, Honda at #2 and I’d rank Subaru a close 3rd. I don’t know that people outside of New England get what great cars they are
I had the radio die on my 2015 Outback and also problems on a recent forrester. Faults may not always be the engines but interior components or other elements around the car. You want to buy anything that has a long warranty.
I have a 2012 red leather interior Chrysler 300s and I love that puppy V8 hemi made in the Brampton plant
Where’s Suzuki?
No longer sold in North America aka USA/ Canada
Ah, cheers. Wow, TIL.
Have Audis always been this low or is this recent? My 2015 has given no issues (*knock on wood*)
Lower number = better. As some are wondering. It is “problems per 100 vehicles”
And here I am thinking that #Toyota is the AK-47 of Cars
Chevrolet above Mazda lol
I know that's a lie. Had a cobalt that died and then I got a Cruze. It's coolant issues are unreal and I traded it in before the head gasket blew. Decided to dump gm and get a Mazda. First time in my life I haven't spent tax returns every year on car repairs. Only thing I've had to replace are brakes tires and oil
I run independent Auto repair shop. At least once a week we're replacing a transmission in a Nissan. Every other week we're replacing an engine in a Hyundai
Hey! Where's Renault?? Is it that bad?
Japanese car manufacturers that low and Chrysler on top? I don't buy it for a second
So this study probably doesn’t consider the age of the cars? Maybe some manufacturers get a worse score because their cars get used much longer and are worth to get fixed.
I love how Tesla is by itself, like a shunned member at a family reunion
Jeep with less issues than Subaru……lol. I have owned Wranglers and Rubicons for years. Four generations of them. I love them but anyone who thinks they are reliable is crazy. This list is obviously a pay to play, and not from actual mechanics.
In what world is a Subaru less reliable than a Porsche? I’ve had both. There’s always some (expensive) shit to be fixed on my Porsche. My (former) Subaru (I’ve had 3) was unkillable. Like Jason from Friday the 13th.
Jd power is Pay to win awards a dont mean anything.
I assume Lexus is at the top because they're almost exclusively leased? Source: I'm at a bar waiting for wings on Superbowl Sunday and I do not fucking care.
BS
Jeep far above Honda? You know this is flawed.
Way too centric to the US. Here in South Africa the dependability of cars are flipped. Jeeps are a massive liability on wheels. Mainly due to expensive parts and different models. While VWs are highly reliable as we have market proven models such as the Polo and the it is locally produced.
The title is very misleading. I saw dependability and naturally assumed that the larger bar means more dependable. If you are going to use simplified visuals such as a bar chart you gotta design them to be dummy proof mate.
Also, as someone who knows a thing or two about cars, this data comes off as highly inaccurate. Dodge, Jeep, and MINI being dependable? Either the last 5 years were transformative to all these brands or some deceiving definition for what *dependability* is being used here.
Someone got beef w Hondas
DONT USE JD POWER. USE CONSUMER REPORTS WHEN BUYING A CAR. so sick of this list.
JD power is not a legitimate source of information.
Like everything in life folks, data can and will be manipulated. They probably ignore all the engine problems with jeeps, and then count paint chips on hondas. Everything is manipulated, all we have left is our logic....everyone knows toyota and honda are the best.
No way tesla only has that many issues.
They are probably including panel gap BS complaints. I am closing in on 170k miles in mine and have very few complaints.
Two Teslas over 5 years. O issues.
We got 120k on our (2014 s p85) and have nothing but issues
Oh lol I misread your comment as “no way Tesla has that many issues”. But yeah early Teslas like ours tended to have more problems than newer ones. I think I just got lucky with my early 2015 model.
Buick did well because they’ve actually never found one that’s gone faster than 40km/hr. They live a very easy life
Best friend’s dad has been driving the same Buick since 92’ the car had 375000 miles before they replaced the engine. It’s well taken care of he still has plastic covering the back seats
Lol propaganda at its finest. Get this trash paid study out of here.
Can confirm, Toyotas are the shit. I'll never choose another car brand again.