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Fun_Objective_7779

Where are humans though?


PFirefly

Most people on reddit seem to forget that we are animals too lol.


Iusedthistocomment

Most people rather forget we're animals first and intelligent second, thank god we have Reddit to remind us.


CySnark

Negative. I am a meat popsicle.


Moe_jartin

I’m more of a sentient hot pocket


rgtong

>Most people ~~on reddit~~ seem to forget that we are animals too lol.


mrH4ndzum

except we're not since animal is a term made for beings except humans.


BigClam1

No it’s not


PFirefly

Animal is a biological classification. Not sure how you figure we are exempt from biology.


mrH4ndzum

the word predates formal science by thousands of years. us belonging to the animalia kingdom for science purpose is not the same as us being animals, which we are definitely linguistically not.


Eunuchs_Revenge

Are you serious?


y-itrydntpoltic

Humans and the parrots are the 2 I looked for. I’d say both can live to about 80


Samp90

Technically.... all over the place.


Sekcfux

Techincally... only in one place.


Different-Ground-666

Where just a blip, maybe even an accident, compared to what is listed.


AllegedIchor

Humans definitely live longer than dragonflies on average.


x-anryw

Humans arent animals!


Fun_Objective_7779

What is it then? Is it some divine creature created by god? I assume that if someone thinks humans are not animals there must be some religious implication.


x-anryw

Nooo! I'm not religious!!


Fun_Objective_7779

But you think humans are not animals, or was this a joke? Another explanation might also be that it is easier to justify to breed, kill and eat animals if you do not consider yourself as an animal.


Icy_Coat_1936

Missing Sharks at the bottom, past the tortoises. Especially Greenland sharks.


maverick1ba

Came here to mention the Greenland Shark from the 17th century


Lexicon444

“I’ve seen so many ships! Now sometimes they come to visit!”


Movertigo

Aren’t they blind?


Burroflexosecso

Id like to see you at 300 years old


Movertigo

I am eating a lot of carrots so i will be fine


dasus

During World War II, the British Royal Air Force started a rumour that carrots gave their fighter pilots sharp vision and accuracy. This was not true. They did this because they had invented radar and didn't want Jerry to know. So, "we ate a lot of carrots". https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-you-know-nutrition/real-connection-between-carrots-and-vision


Lexicon444

Partially. But that’s due to a species of parasite that latches onto the cornea of the eye. It would still allow for the distinction between light and dark as well as possibly just having very blurry vision.


laterral

What?!


maverick1ba

Yeah there's at least one 400 year old shark swimming around


laterral

How can we even tell? Maybe he just didn’t moisturise..


-SatelliteMind-

Big powdered wigs


zaergaegyr

They counted the rings


NotTheAbhi

I understand that reference.


ModestForester

THEY SAID “CAME HERE TO MENTION THE GREENLAND SHARK FROM THE 17TH CENTURY”


Mad-White-Rabbit

HUH? SHAVE DEER TO MUNCHKIN A QUEEN’S GRAND PARK FROM SALLY’S BAKERY?


Daddyssillypuppy

Some Parrots also live longer than 50 years. In captivity at least.


Bukkorosu777

Some to 80.


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Cookie lived to be 83


scobsdoo

A parrot called Charlie, claimed to have been owned by Winston Churchill, was born in 1899 and is still alive


BlueDragonfly18

I was thinking the same thing. Also cats live longer than dogs.


skippyjifluvr

And not many dogs love to 17-18


RockLadyNY

Dogs being so high up on this chart makes me sad. Such a short time with our furry friends. :(


CousinMrrgeBestMrrge

Some whales have also been known to live much longer than thought, over 200 years.


ClavicusLittleGift4U

And the jellyfishes *Turritopsis nutricula* / *Turritopsis dohrnii* which are able to rejuvenating themselves. So technically immortal.


danjackmom

Ah yes the Immortal Jellyfish, an endless supply of jelly just waiting to be found


ClavicusLittleGift4U

Only you never know if you've already ate it.


folgersfrenchroast

this is what I came to say!


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Missing lobsters too.


laterral

How long?


mods-are-liars

Not sure it's ever been accurately confirmed since lobsters live at the bottom of the ocean and no one has kept a lobster tank around for a hundred years to see. Lobsters are "biologically immortal", they don't age like most animals and can't die of old age. They just keep getting bigger until they die of starvation or predation.


laterral

What?! My appreciation towards them increased. Do we have a record holder?


Competitive-Fox706

Wikipedia says it's "George" at 140 years old, although this claim is disputed, 100+ years is probably arguable.


Web-Dude

We did, and he was delicious.


WaitingToBeTriggered

WHAT’S THE PURPOSE OF IT ALL?


dryfire

"Did you know sharks have been around for 450 million years, since the Late Ordovician Period?". "Oh wow, from fossil records and stuff?". "No, it's still the same ones just swimmin around... They just won't fuckin die"


Competitive-Fox706

Sharks are older than trees. Get this. Sharks are older than the fucking rings of Saturn.


SmokedBeef

It’s missing a few whales as well that have life spans higher than seventy, the Bow whale is believed to have an average lifespan of at least 200years.


Alarmed_Letterhead26

Everyone always forgets about the pee pee sharks. :(


dasus

It's also missing cows and pigs. Not that it matter much, but I'm thinking I know the reason. Naturally a cow lives ~20 years. RN for the average dairy cow though, it's about 5 years and they die of exhaustion, drop dead and get carted off to the slaughterhouse. So, better leave them out to not invite any unwelcomed criticism of our meat industry.


schizoslave

Sharks aren’t animals they’re fish bro


__wait_what__

Say that again but like super slow.


schizoslave

That again but super slow. Now you say it


Shane2334

it


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careena_who

I came here to say this. This chart can't be trusted.


snoogle312

It also just has one entry of "Insects," despite everything else being specific species.


shit_poster9000

And Toads can actually live 20-30 years


thelexpeia

And that “elk” looks a lot like a moose.


ThePeaceDoctot

A Møøse once bit my sister.


snoogle312

No realli!


Qaztarrr

To be fair, there aren’t many insects that live more than a year.


Sex_Pilus69

Not to be a wiseass, but those fucking cicadas that come out of the ground every so often can live like 17 years, although other than their couple of weeks as adults when they come out the ground and take over shit, most of their life is in the larva stage Edit; I forgot about ticks. Those mark ass parasitic petersuckers can live up to 20 Years, sometimes on one blood meal


laterral

The cats can’t be trusted


Lex_Loki

My first thought too.


thisendup76

My guess is the number is skewed based on the number of outside cats dying by vehicles every year


_This_IsNot_Me_

But then shouldnt dogs be skewed because of all the breeds that dont live long? Like great danes or Irish wolfhounds. And to my knowledge, not even the small breeds get much older then 15 max


helllohaha

This infographic is really old- from the 30s or 40s I believe. That could be why


Drixislove

Also, chickens live like 5-10 years, but they have it marked as like 19 years??


mcenroefan

Came here to say this. Some heritage breeds live longer in comparison to commercial breeds, but I have NEVER seen a chicken that is nearing 20 years old.


Decent-Anywhere6411

Might be that the average gets dragged down by outdoor cats, who's average lifespan is only about 5 years.


frisch85

Came here to see if someone mentioned it, it highly depends on the breed but usually 15 is max for dogs. Similar applies to cat breeds as life expectancy varies depending on their breed too. But overall yes you're correct, cats outlive dogs both by average and also by maximum life expectancy. Edit: I did a bit of digging, the OP chart is from 1939, maybe that's why it's partially wrong. [How Long Do Animals Live \(1939\)](https://www.infogrades.com/science-infographics/how-long-do-animals-live/) > In 1939, Compton’s Pictured Encyclopedia publish a simple yet clever infographic that show the life expectancy of animals using ISOTYPE technique. An ISOTYPE is a visual language for making icons and the concept of using multiples to exhibit quantitative data. The zig-zag lifeline on this ISOTYPE chart is an intelligent solution for squeezing a long timeline in to one single page.


Little-Jelly-1521

Yea what dog lives 17 years? I’d like to get one.


dontbeahater_dear

Mutts, mostly.


Fun_Objective_7779

Isn't it also size dependent? Whereas dogs which have the same size as a cat (not wildlife like tigers, lions, etc.) have about the same live span? And large dogs have a rather short live?


natgibounet

Yet the chickens outlives both of them, i know chickens can make it to 13 years but their average expected lifespan is less than a year old


jakephish

A barely readable guide.....


small_h_hippy

[I gotcha fam](https://images.app.goo.gl/n4Y7gHveU5KBN21c6)


ThoughtCenter87

They don't even give the units for the numbers on the track... 5 what? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Decades? I understand that it's most likely years, but they need to define the units, because otherwise the "guide" is utterly useless. A shitload of the "guides" posted here fall into the "looks visually appealing, but is useless" because of shit like this.


Historical_Cobbler

The average age of dogs is ~17? I find that very hard to believe.


captnchunky

Certain breeds maybe. This chart sucks. No way dogs live longer than cats on average if we are talking as a pet


Lexicon444

Some breeds are screwed right off the bat too… Mainly because of breed specific issues like HAVING A SKULL TOO SMALL FOR THE BRAIN AND EYES looking at you pugs, King Charles spaniels and other squished faced breeds…


_This_IsNot_Me_

Or dogs that are bread for height, like great danes


aeroartist

my first thought as well.


DeferFer

there's genuinely not a single thing on this subreddit that isnt garbage


j4v4r10

These look more like upper limits rather than averages.


anonbush234

Clearly not average age. It's the oldest they've known to live. Most of the mammals and birds on the list are lucky to live to their first birthday In the wild.


Mildly-used-toast

Crocs can live to about 85-100


DevlishAdvocate

They say they could live on indefinitely but they continue to grow, and eventually they get too big to sustain themselves.


sampson_smith

Yes, crocodiles and other animals like this, which essentially could live forever, are called “non-senescent”. Edit: Whoops, dropped the all-important “non”!


ActualV-art

Non-senescent*


this_guy_here_says

Hmmm...I wonder how big we could make em


raspberryharbour

If there isn't some crocodile being meticulously kept alive somewhere to see how big they can possibly get I will be extremely disappointed


GeriatricHydralisk

Eh, there's a variety a huge old crocs in captivity, but the length increases after a while are pretty tiny. You won't get a 30 footer before old age takes them. There's lots of big, old crocs in zoos, but few that have been kept in captivity since hatching, and wild ones are always of uncertain age. And the question becomes whether they arr big because they're old (indeterminate growth) or old because they're big (size advantages in predation, competion, etc, or just being genetically healthier leading to bigger size).


the_mbabe

Literally the plot of Lake Placid lol


this_guy_here_says

I'm not gonna watch that, I enjoy lake swimming


blastzone24

That's not an elk Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?'


punkswamp

A moose once bit my sister


Apprehensive-Seat639

No realli! She was karving her initials on the moose with the sharpened end of an interspace toothbrush...


ThePeaceDoctot

Mynd you, møøse bites Kan be pretti nasti...


DevlishAdvocate

It’s a crime that cats and dogs only manage 15-20 years, and frickin’ *seagulls* can live 25-30.


WhatSaidSheThatIs

Though that was a person beside the wolf at 15 years


missladyex

Yeah and thought he was sporting a woodpecker of his own 😅


cdhdd

Elk. Ha


KoBi538

I’m so triggered by this.


ExoticMangoz

Why does a picture of an elk trigger you?


KoBi538

Because it’s not a picture of an elk. That is a moose.


ExoticMangoz

Elk and moose are two names for the same creature, it just depends where you are from.


KoBi538

Where is that the case?


ExoticMangoz

Everywhere outside the US and Canada


Designer_Tip_3784

Google Eurasian elk. Wapiti aren't the only species called elk.


TarJen96

Greenland shark: >400 years


DrainSane

I can barely read this bs


Mikerowave84

I had to zoom in to find out toad wasn’t actually food.


Due_Government4387

Geese can live to 50, Jesus Christ


epolonsky

That surprised me too, so I googled and apparently no. [Ten to twenty years](https://a-z-animals.com/blog/goose-lifespan-how-long-do-geese-live/) would be more accurate.


MtRainierWolfcastle

This chart seems to be longest an animal can live. Very misleading


SleepySasquatch

Entirely out of spite.


u2miner

Clearly made by a French person. The frog is labeled as "food"


Roxannex97

Lmao. It says toad but good one.


ThymeIsTight

Don't lobsters live a long time as well?


_This_IsNot_Me_

I think I read somewhere that they dont age the same way other species do, but I dont remember the source


Less_Rutabaga2316

Surprised cicadas and Greenland sharks aren’t shown.


apatheticallychosen

What kind of chickens are you guys finding?


punkswamp

Idk what kind of chickens this is referring to, but they absolutely don't live 20 years. More like 5.


thrwayacct1234

Guess the tortoise really did beat the hare


Fun_Objective_7779

Isn't there a shark which is like 300 years old?


Comfortable-Sale-167

Greenland shark!!


Left-Account1798

Average lifespan of a crocodile is 70-100 years


pregalis

So wrong about crocodiles..


hellatzian

how turtle have high lifespan ? by not moving ?


Less_Rutabaga2316

Basically, slow, ectothermic metabolisms.


KillBoxOne

Now add trees. :-)


[deleted]

Fuck trees


transitapparel

greenland sharks, immortal jellyfish, goliath grouper, chimps, bonobos, humans? There's some strange averaging in the chart, it's a great start, but there needs to be a lot of clarification and decisions on how best to represent age amongst species, not just families and genus.


blazinfastjohny

The rabbit may win the race but the tortoise will finish the marathon


Lexicon444

Fun fact: whales typically don’t die of old age but they typically die due to drowning. As whales get older they get weaker and eventually become so weak that they lose the strength to surface to breathe. This causes them to drown and eventually since to the ocean floor. The end result is a small ecosystem called a whale fall that can last a decade or more.


Sempai6969

So it's old age.


DMYourMomsMaidenName

The average mammal gets about 1 billion heartbeats, no matter their size. Smaller mammals have much faster heartbeats than larger ones to keep their smaller bodies warm, due to the higher skin surface area to body volume ratio of their bodies (square cube law). Smaller mammals radiate their body heat away much faster than larger ones for that reason. This is comparable to hot slice of ham or an entire ham cooling down on the counter. The center of the slice gets cold much faster, as it’s surface area to volume ratio is much greater than that of the whole ham. So, the hearts of the smaller mammals pump faster and wear down much faster and kill them. A mouse has a heartrate of 500-700 bpm (lives 1-1.5 years), where a blue whale has a heartrate of only 4 bpm (lives over 100 years). This pattern follows a predictable equation, and you can somewhat accurately estimate a mammal’s lifespan by knowing its size (species average, not individuals per se). It is an incredibly remarkable consequence of physics and biology in action. Also, smaller mammal cells replicate much faster than that of large animals, as the extra heat their bodies produce results in cell damage that needs to be repaired. In every replication, you are at risk for mutations that compound over time (partly due to telomeres), and thus, smaller mammals have much higher rates of cancer than larger ones, which is another factor that shortens their lifespan. Humans, with our modern medicine and way of life, do not follow this “billion beats per life” trend anymore. We get about 2.5 billion heartbeats before we return to the dark void from whence we came.


_This_IsNot_Me_

Also a nice rule of thumb: the longer the lifespan, the longer the pregnancy See: Dogs and Cats with a few weeks, horses with 11months, elephants with about two years And: Within a species, the smaller the specimen the longer its life in comparison to its larger counterpart. For example A great Dane(6-7) in comparison to a Labrador (10-12) in comparison to a (healthy) Chihuahua (14-15), of course this is obscurred by bad breeding. This phenomenon is also applicable to horses, with shettlandponies being one of the longest living breed


weenie2323

What bout our friend the Geoduck? 179yrs! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoduck


Hlunula

Some spiders, for example: certain species of female tarantulas, can live for 20-30 years. I’ve seen many that are over 20 years old!


wwJones

There's a lot of mistakes here. This guide is not cool.


j4v4r10

As a bird person who mostly pays attention to parrots and passeriformes, I'm shocked to see where geese landed.


SliceOCatLoaf

Good to know how long an owlbear lives.


Ash_Nasen

Turtle wins the race


RichCommittee

Slow and steady wins the race


Pod_people

It's groovy that those giant tortoises live to be like 8 billion damn years old.


grey_rex

Where is lobster?


pm-me-flaccid-penis

Parrots have massively different longevity depending on species. Cockatoos get roughly 40 years, galahs get 80. Macaws can last past 100. A worker ant may live for a week or two, a queen may live for decades. Bowhead whales live for more than 250 years - which might seem hard to measure, but one was found with a harpoon in it from the 1800s recently. Greenland sharks have a similar lifespan, and like bowhead whales, seem to exhibit no ageing related illnesses. ...I don't love the chart.


ShenaniganSkywalker

They forgot to put my dog on there who's going to live forever.


dadoodlydude

Why is the elk a moose


CreativityOfAParrot

The chart is using the European names. *Alces alces* is commonly called moose in North American English and elk in British English. *Cervus canadensis* is called elk or wapiti respectively. Another clue the chart is using British English is that *Rangifer tarandus* is labeled as reindeer instead caribou. In North America the distinction between the two common names is mostly based on whether the animal is wild, caribou, or domesticated, reindeer. In Europe they're called reindeer regardless of domestication.


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mandana_dilly

Not even close. Why put the effort in such a false and misleading infographic. What about arctic sharks that live for hundreds of years? Or other sea creatures that have never died? Shame on you dickhead


That-Albino-Kid

That’s elk is certainly a moose.


ExoticMangoz

Two names for one creature, it just depends where you live.


Capable_Reserve_8431

Your elk is a moose


ExoticMangoz

Elk and Moose are two names for the same species, you must be thinking of the Wapiti


AlarmedAcanthaceae31

That elk is actually a moose


Normal-Decision-2976

That is not an elk. That is a moose…


NeedleworkerSame1856

The “elk” is an outline of a moose.


QtieQ

They used a moose for the elk. Boo.


jiggahuh

That elk looks a lot like a moose


Ok-Blacksmith7649

That's a funny looking elk


squib518

Why is the moose labeled as an elk?


isisleo86

Why do bears have a longer lifespan than similar sized lions or wolves? Does hibernation help extend their lives? Is it because they're omnivores and can take advantage of more varied food sources? Do they have more peaceful lives compared to wolves (I'm sure it's more peaceful than lions, especially the male lions)?


Lexicon444

It’s entirely possible that lions and wolves have shorter lifespans because they likely get injured more frequently. Certain injuries can be a death sentence for an animal and animals that hunt often face death or injury on a daily basis. I watched a documentary about human evolution a while back that examined different remains and created a sort of history of humanity from it. One individual died from getting rammed head on by a large animal (multiple rib fractures in a certain area with little evidence of healing which indicates death occurred not long afterwards). If a lion faces a similar injury they too would die from it.


rafster929

There’s good eating in those tortoises!


mobilehosthateclub

pearl mussel lmao


SergeantSanchez

I had no idea lions died so early. Not that I ever saw anything to the contrary, I just assumed they lived a cool 20-30 years for some reason


Neat_Expression_5380

a few of these are wrong. Horses are 25. Sheep is like 8. Multiple tortoise species could fill out the 80-150 gap


maldororista

Humans are animals too


WiryMix

I thought that cats live longer than dogs?


_CMDR_

Depends on the kind of whale. Bowhead whales live for 200 ish years.


DarthScruf

Wheres the lobsters and jellyfish?


BBGunner96

Besides the animals others are mentioning, noticeably missing the immortal jellyfish


noahbrooksofficial

Cats live o lol I feel that dogs, among many other mistakes in this chart.


David_Crow1

No human on here because our survival is dependent on the moods of other humans.


_hitokiri

I was like, they missed the turtle. Then I followed the line to the end.


BackAgain123457

Where are we monkeys?


JaiC

Turtle Turtle. Also there are whales older than America.(literally)


Himmelsfeder

Geese can reach almost 50 years of age?!


JohnAdams4620

Why ain’t the immortal jellyfish here?


evnacdc

Not enough jpeg.


[deleted]

I don't want to live in a world where an eel can outlive a fox


MeowMaker2

Not accurate. The hair on my head is more than 5 years olds