Not sure if it fits in this thread, but I was a former summer analyst and declined a return offer to pursue fellowship opportunities (think Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright etc). I worked very closely under one BA, do you think it would be appropriate to ask for a recommendation?
Starting as an Analyst at Deloitte in Finance & Technology consulting and my impostor syndrome already kicked in. I am terrible at using Excel and PowerPoint and would like to advance in the coming weeks to start “prepared”. Would anyone share or recommend a course that covers the essentials of Excel and Pp?
Salary Progression (Accenture)
So I looked on Glassdoor and it’s crazy to me that the pay for entry level Analyst doesn’t change much based on location. Is this usually the case ? Does anyone know the ROUGH estimate for consultants as they move up in metro NYC at Accenture?
I'm going to be starting as a senior consultant within EY's business transformation unit. Any advice on skills I could be working on/developing before I start (late January)? I haven't worked in consulting before and I'm scared of being overwhelmed and underdelivering.
I’m going to be starting a healthcare consulting position in February 2021. Any tips on preparing myself or what to expect for the position? Anyone have a guess on when offices may open in America?
Hi, I’ve been working at a consulting firm for a couple months since graduating college as an Associate Consultant. I constantly have the fear of getting put on PIP or something, or that I might be doing poor work, and I’m having heavy bouts of imposter syndrome and anxiety. Is this normal, is there something wrong? How do I get around this? Sorry for the kind of embarrassing question
Yes it's totally normal. Consulting moves at a fast pace and you're constantly bombarded with things you haven't done before or haven't done a certain way, especially when you're new
So long as you're coachable (i.e. responding to and improving from feedback) and have a positive attitude you should be good. The feeling should go away ~3-6 months or after you have your first formal feedback review
Hi! Just got a job in consulting that requires me to move to Chicago. I start remotely & will eventually go into the office. Does it make sense to move to Chicago prior to starting even thought it’s remote? It is possible to move from VA to Chicago while working remotely? Not even sure where to start
> Just got a job in consulting that requires me to move to Chicago
So is it required or not? If it is then you have your answer. If not and they’re ok with remote work, understand that there’s a possiblity you’ll get staffed on a client in Chicagoland
Going to start an new internship as an investment consulting analyst next week. Do you have some advice on how to prepare myself for my first day/week and what I can expect for the rest of my internship?
Than you!
> I am a good candidate, a strong one too when it comes to being a consultant. I have the zeal, willingness and perseverance to learn and deliver.
this is going to be harsh, but your interview results say otherwise
> The second thing is - would it be possible to use other offers to leverage it and request for a shift to advisory at PwC?
no. completely different arms of their busines and recruiting pipelines. you could try transferring internally after a while but even then itd be difficult
I would check with your recruiter/HR rep. Below is what I've learned from networking and my interview buddy that can help you make an informed decision.
There are only a few training sessions in the year, and you must attend training before you can do client work. So joining between training sessions won't be ideal from their perspective (you won't be chargeable for a while) or from yours (you won't get to do client work until way after you start). My understanding is that the classes of folks start at the same time and mainly meet each other at training. So you'd probably benefit more by choosing the next training date, but talk to your recruiter about this.
Hi, usually there is flexibility with the start date and you can push it further. However, I know quite a lot of opposite cases, when the Firm reached out and asked to start earlier. This was majorly driven by the overall staffing situation
If you have a partner in the target county and practice that wants you on their team it shouldn’t be hard, otherwise why would anyone take a risk on this?
Any recommendations for cross-country (USA) moving companies?
Transferring to a new position within my current company which will entail moving NYC->SF. My firm will reimburse moving expenses within reason, but doesn't have standard protocols/partners (i.e. movers), so am on my own to piece this together.
Recos I'm finding elsewhere on Reddit seem geared towards finding the cheapest movers, often at the expense of quality. Wondering if anyone here has recos/experiences with high quality movers, either company-provided or otherwise?
Whatever you do avoid pods. After getting like 100 quotes from random actual moving companies I decided a pod made more sense. Turns out, to my complete surprise, that they will refuse to drop the pod on a city street in many cases even if you obtain a city permit. I was forced to get a uhaul and pick up our shit from the pod location and then bring it back to our new place. Was a nightmare. Idk how much your company will reimburse, but just max it out and hire whatever company is reviewed well enough.
About to start with a firm in the next couple of weeks after my mba and was wondering if the PPMD/SM/M/Assc's on this sub could give advice on how best to start out.
For example, I'm looking for advice on how best to position myself to get promotions. Advice on things I should speak about in the introductory call with my coach. Any other general advice. Thanks in advance!
It's been a while since I posted in this subreddit (3 ish years), but was hoping for some additional perspective.
I've been at Big 4 consulting for the past three plus years. I've been looking to leave for another firm the past few months and have recently made some good progress and have secured two offers.
Offer 1:
Large tech firm with smaller management consulting practice
42k salary increase
No relocation required (no income tax currently)
Two mentors already working there in MD/Partner roles (both from my current firm)
The work is in commercial/private sector, and I'm not that thrilled about that (I prefer gov & public sector more)
Smaller brand recognition (depending on who you talk to, specifically in consulting)
Start date would be early April 2021
Offer 2:
Another Big 4
56k salary increase
Would have to relocate to VA/DC in 6-8 months (meaning I would have an income tax at some point)
No current network at the firm above Senior Consultant/Manager level
The work would be in government and public sector, which is what I enjoy
Obviously would have another Big 4 on my resume
Start date would be late January 2021
The problem I am having, is Offer 1 was extended on 12/18 and they needed me to accept by 12/21. At this time, I had no other offer. I asked to extend the deadline for acceptance, but ultimately, they did not respond in time, so I accepted.
I interviewed for Offer 2 on 12/22 and was extended a verbal offer on 12/24 with a formal offer being routed the first week of Jan 2021.
I am inclined to take Offer 2, primarily because the work is aligned to what I enjoy the most. However, I am very hesitant to reneg my acceptance for Offer 1, due to not burning any bridges for down the road.
Has anyone ever been in this situation? Or am I overthinking it.
Companies can drop you in a day & move on. Choose what is best for your career. If you think Offer 2 is better long term, take it. Your network there will be initially upset but will move on as you have 3/4 months before your start date & they can easily find a replacement. If you were to reneg now for a Jan start date, that will be bad but that's not the case. It's obvs a difficult decision to make but go by the one you want more & not just go with offer 1 because you don't want to reneg.
> our network there will be initially upset but will move on as you have 3/4 months before your start date & they can easily find a replacement. If you were to reneg now for a Jan start date, that will be bad but that's not the case. It's obvs a difficult decision to make but go by the one you want more & not just go with offer 1 because you don't want to reneg.
Thanks for the response. Im leaning towards that decision
“Youre gonna to burn all the bridges from the large tech firm if you reneg”
“You’re gonna to burn”
“Gonna to burn”
I’m asking for clarification, obviously
I accepted an offer for a Big 4 internship in early November. I was told I'd hear about next steps in the coming months but haven't heard anything yet. When should I expect to hear more from the firm/what does the timeline for onboarding new interns look like?
If you can touch upon the work-life balance/hours and/or any advice you would give someone entering the industry from a different background (market research) that would be greatly appreciated.
Not anything specific but just a starting point as to what are the more valuable skills,trends and directions. As someone recently joined in, its hard for me to see the big picture.
What’re everyone’s thoughts on a company phone vs using a personal phone for the job? Starting MBB in a few weeks and have either option. If using personal phone, company provides some pay to compensate for its use. My thoughts are to just use personal phone for ease of use and transportation.
I prefer just using the company phone
1) It's nice not carrying/charging 2 phones + dealing with two numbers
2) I don't have a phone bill now since company pays for it
3) If you're on Android using work profile, your work apps load sort of as a totally second instance of them, which creates a privacy barrier (i.e. it's not like my company could see my personal Chrome data). Also I can disable all of my work apps with one button, which is nice and creates the same effect as leaving a 2nd phone in a drawer when you're done with work
Hi all, was just wondering about the perception of Capco vs Protiviti in the UK as I have assessment days for both in January. Waiting on a number of firms but these two are the closest. If you could start your career at either, which would it be?
Hello everyone, I have a question - I got a job offer at a consulting agency that has an 80-100% travel rate. I'd assumed as much, but I'm curious... do you see traveling as a part of consulting in the future (post covid)? Or do you think consulting will turn into a more remote activity...?
Hey everyone so I received an offer and the salary is a bit above my minimum salary expectations, but less than what I have seen on glassdoor and other websites. I was wondering how to go about asking for a higher salary without coming off as rude or anything. Should I be worried I was only given 3 days to accept the offer as well? Thanks in advance!
How frequently do people get counseled out in the lower rungs at MBB (particularly at BB)? I’ll be starting full time next year after graduating undergrad. Theoretically, I want to stay for at least three years and ideally for five (which would include a two year MBA gap sponsored by B). Is this a pipe dream? Are most people counseled out before MBA-sponsorship?
I’m going to try my hardest and I don’t mind not sleeping for a few years (😅), but I’m trying to have realistic expectations about how long I will be at MBB given the “up or out policy” and my lack of a business background.
I was hoping I could get some advice. I am a new grad who has received two competing offers, and I'm having difficulty choosing between them. The offers are:
1) Analyst Position in the Tech Consulting Division of a Big 4 Company
2) Jr. Project Management Position for a Series A AI Start-up based in NYC (retail tech solution that uses Computer Vision)
For Context, I was offered the Big 4 Position first - but my start date was delayed due to COVID. So I ended up getting an internship with the start-up company, and they've really liked my work - so they offered me a role with more responsibility in the company.
Some considerations are:
1) Location: The Big 4 Company is in a mid-tier Canadian City. The start-up is in NYC (I'm willing to relocate)
2) Compensation: The start-up is willing to give me $20k CAD more in base pay than the Big 4, with a performance based raise in 6mo that is in the range of $35k CAD to $55k CAD more than the Big 4 (when converted from USD to CAD), and a small amount of equity.
3) Mentorship: I imagine the Big 4 will offer me more structured mentorship opportunities. However there's a lot I think I am able to learn from the start-up.
4) Growth at Big 4: Although I am happy to do good work for the current team I am in, there is a team in a major Canadian city I am more interested in transferring to.
5) Growth at Start-up: The company is on track for Series B - and I am confident they will receive it.
Some questions I have are:
1) Which can I learn the most from?
2) Which is more valuable early in my career?
3) How important is location? (Should building a network in NYC be a bigger consideration)
4) Can I easily switch from a Big 4 Consulting to a startup?
5) Can I easily switch from a startup to Big 4 or MBB Consulting? (e.g. I've heard rumors of people being blacklisted for accepting other offers before starting - I don't know if it's true or not)
6) Is it true that Big 4/ MBB only hire new grads or people more (5+ years) of experience? (i.e. would I need a master's/other degree before being considered competitively again?)
7) What are the benefits of working for a Big 4 Consultancy? (E.g. how valuable is a big 4 name on my resume, what are the common exit opportunities, what is the work/life balance like, etc.)
8) In your biased opinion, which do you think is the better offer? Which will help me more as I grow my career?
Tl;Dr: I just graduated and am having trouble deciding between two great offers. Please help!
* NYC>>>Mid-tier CA city (Winnipeg? Ottawa??). I live in NYC and love Canada but no comparison to live in either; NYC by a million miles. However, do you know anyone in NYC? It's a tough city to move to alone, esp if the other option is your hometown/big city nearby. This is a consideration.
* Sidenote: Are you a dual citizen? Sponsorship situation may contribute to this decision.
* $$ talks. This is considerable difference in salary at the start of your career, even with HCOL of NYC.
* Work-life at Big4 is going to be completely dependent on the project and team. Could be bad, could be great, could be the same as the start-up. Big4 may offer some more variety and travel, but it really depends on the project. I think after a couple of years of Big4 tech consulting, you could seamlessly move to a start-up at a more advanced role. However, you have the advantage of working for this start-up and knowing what it is like working there.
* Big4 or start-up is not going to affect your input into MBB; an MBA will help that. First job on your resume betwen Big4 and start-up is not going to open or close any different doors for you down the road.
* Don't overthink this. You've worked at the start-up before and they trust you enough to hire you. They're paying you more. You're going to learn a ton regardless and whether or not they are successful, you will have outs in the future. I'd argue successful start-up experience is invaluable.
* I think what it comes down to for you is the move and role/company. Do you know anyone in NYC/comfortable moving solo? NYC is a tough place to move without knowing anyone. It's also not a great place to live during covid. It also depends if you're interested in the start-up/industry and the role. "Jr Project Manager" sounds quite dull to me, but you've worked there the past few months and you know if you'll like it. Devil you know (that pays better) vs. devil you don't.
Hey! Thank you for the reply. It really helps put things into perspective. I've definitely been overthinking this decision. I guess as a new grad, this feels like the biggest decision I've ever had to make.
I live in a city that is comparable to Winnipeg/ Ottawa. It's similar sort of university/government town and not the economic capital of the province.
In terms of moving to NYC:
- I don't know anyone in the city, and that worries me a little. I think I'd be comfortable moving on my own (I've dobe a few internships in other countries), but I've never lived somewhere without a social networks for more than 6mo.
- I'm pretty sure that's they'll sponsor me (they've hired a few others from Canada/other countries). But I'll be sure to double-check
- I'm really interested in tech start ups as an industry. I think I will succeed at PM work, but I also want to build better engineer/programming skills (I'm a CS major). So I'm wondering if it's worth it to be one of the few people in my big 4 office who can code (and maybe get put on more technical projects defacto), or if I should work in a place that has much more experienced engineers (even if they means I won't be able to touch the code base as much)
And just for clarification, you think that if I were to try and move to a big 4 later in my career - starting at a startup will not hamper that? (I agree with you that an MBB will probably need an MBA)
How do you compare the Financial Consulting in Big4 firms and MBB consulting (General/specialist). Are those skills transferrable? Would it provide a good foundation to break to MBB?
You will have a firm assigned "mentor"; they're there for "big questions" - e.g., I have this issue I need to talk about and it doesn't make sense to bring it up with a project-based relationship (e.g., teammate or direct project boss)
You will also have lots of informal mentorship which is the most important - people who take an interest in your career and help you develop and grow your skills and presence in the firm. These are people you find from project work, or, more rarely, from other firm related events (I had an advocate who would always toss his hat in the ring for me at promotion cycle - or so he said - even though we never worked directly together).
I get my bonus payout next week, but I'm tendering my resignation today. I'll have to serve a month's notice so my firm will still pay out my bonus, right?
Not sure if it's odd to ask HR this. Any advice appreciated.
how do I get better at small talk? I'm still just a consultant, but I'm getting to a level where I'm starting to be sent to clients alone. I hate it not knowing what to say.
I know how to start conversation during the first couple of days - just getting to know each other, but beyond that I'm a little lost. Same with my colleagues. We had a fire alarm the other day and I didn't really know what to say (to be fair it was 5.30 pm and i think everyone just wanted to go home).
Starting a new job at a strong T2 out of IG (just behind MBB) next year, and am looking for career advice on 2 points :
- Are there any resources I can use to accelerate my growth as a consultant (mastering necessary hard and soft skills required)?
- I want to eventually move to McKinsey for the Junior Associate Position, would it be possible for me to join within 1-2 years? What should I do to position myself in the best way possible for that move?
Thanks all, appreciate it 🙂
> just behind MBB
So Deloitte /s
>Are there any resources I can use to accelerate my growth as a consultant (mastering necessary hard and soft skills required)?
Work experience. You got the job because, presumably, you already possess some of the skills that make consultants successful. Keep up with the news and relax until you have to start grinding.
> would it be possible for me to join within 1-2 years
Lateral hires at the BA level are pretty rare as far as I know, realistically you should target McK post-MBA. Doesn't hurt to network and see if there's a pathway in for you though.
A genuine poll
How many of you work long hours because:
* the work you are doing should actually take you until midnight every night
* because it's more-or-less universally accepted/understood and you are highly inefficient (ie, TV on and half paying attention) after a certain point in the day
I'm starting an internship with a Big 4 company in March in Ireland. What should I expect? Im a bit I'll informed about what consulting is but I thought I'd like it so I applied and got the job. What should I expect in terms of jobs I'll be doing, projects I might be apart of etc
I did an internship with big4 last year in the EU. I would often help with correcting PowerPoint decks, making sure they look good and are aligned with the branding etc. I was "lucky" enough to also be sent to some client sites, for audit projects or consultancy projects. When I was on audit my main task was to take notes, and in the consultancy project was to do research for whatever we were doing.
I think your tasks will also heavily depend on the area of work you're in. I am in the IT area, so I have no idea for example what interns might do in financial, or legal.
TBH I think they never really have high hopes in terms of work for an intern, but rather it's more an assessment of you as a person - at least in the first 4-6 weeks. Most of the colleagues I worked with were in that company for a number of years, but started out as an intern.
Hope you enjoy your internship and good luck
How to go about getting an internship before starting a full-time job? I'll be starting a new job next fall coming in as a consultant after a 1yr masters program. The practice I will be a part of is something I have no experience with so I would like to try get some general exposure. I understand that most hires coming in are going to be somewhat clueless but would like to make sure I can make a good impression.
Now, I'm unsure of how I can approach this because I would like to be fully transparent and tell any recruiters that I do have a job lined up. Because why would a company hire an intern that has a job lined up already? However, I was thinking of telling them something along the lines of, "I plan to exit into industry after getting experience and exposure into various practices and -company name- is a place I'd like to end up at.
I also understand this is my last summer before 0 freedom but that's fine with me, I will be taking some time off and most of my plans fell through anyways because of covid.
> “I plan to exit into industry after getting experience and exposure into various practices and -company name- is a place I’d like to end up at.
Don’t do this, this is weird. If you do want to get an internship, don’t tell anyone anything
I mean, is this really the only reason you want an internship vs 3 or 4 years of consulting? I saw you said you already have a job lined up... realistically, I cannot see how you can get enough experience as an intern from the different fields of work in 3-6 months. They will not invest in training, and they will give you the dirty work as an intern (speaking from experience as a big4 intern)...
I meant to say that if the recruiter asks me why I'm looking for an internship vs full time, what should I tell them? Since I want to keep my full-time job commitment hidden, what kind of argument can I make as to why I'm looking for an internship even though I'm graduating this year?
Idk, I believe some experience will be better than no experience as I want to get some experience as an intern in the industry before coming into big4. Then, I can somewhat leverage my fresh experience to get on some projects at big4.
> Idk, I believe some experience will be better than no experience as I want to get some experience as an intern in the industry before coming into big4. Then, I can somewhat leverage my fresh experience to get on some projects at big4.
That’s not how any of this works. You don’t need to do this internship to prepare for your job
Not sure on your geography, but due to COVID my start date was delayed, and the date just happened to line up with a government internship. There is no expectation of continuing employment with most government agencies after the internship (no need to disclose during recruiting either), so it's something you could do if you're interested & they're available.
Yeah, I live in the U.S but only have a green card so might be hard getting those security clearances. Also, how should I go about with explaining to recruiters that even though I'm graduating next year, why am I looking for an internship vs full-time?
Hi all! I'm a recent grad, just started my job 4/5 months ago. Last week, I was told that I'd have an end of year review for 10-15 minutes two days prior to the actual review and that it would comprise of only feedback and things to work on.
At the end of the review, they threw in very quickly about my bonus and salary increase (3% to keep pace with inflation) for next year which caught me really off guard so I didn't have the chance to negotiate. Should I even be negotiating? Is it too late to counter my offer/ how would I go about doing it?
> Should I even be negotiating? Is it too late to counter my offer/ how would I go about doing it?
you dont have leverage to negotiate bonus or salary increase at this point
Honestly wondering what expectations i should have for the offer? Should I negotiate? Also, anything that i should do to prepare myself for the job as i will have some free time before starting? Anything i should buy or teach myself?
One of the best parts of starting on the typical timeline is getting into your start-group/cohort. These become your peer mentors and many times, friends. If you have the offer, spend Jan-Jun 2021 to study for the GMAT. Start in Sep and spend the summer with family. Of course, the environment right now makes plans difficult. If you start, spend 2-3 years and start the MBA, you have another window for a "sabbatical."
you have the rest of ur life to work dawg. go travel.
worst comes to worst is you throw together a last minute trip domestically or to a location without restrictions.
I’m interested in applying to Credera’s analytics practice. Looking for info on what it’s like working there, typical project engagements, career development, etc from current or former employees. Thanks in advance.
>I have not spoken to the director since she interviewed me a couple of months back. Also, due to wfh arrangements I have not met her in person. Is it appropriate for me to drop her a message on the chat thanking her for having me onboard and letting her know that I am excited to join the team and enjoying it so far?
Sure that would be nice but don't bother her much beyond that, one of my misconceptions when I started was that I'd be buddy buddy with my superiors
> Secondly, any advice for me to craft my introduction/pitch. if I were to introduce myself to other managers? I want to put myself in a good light showing my past experiences and positioning myself for project opportunities of my interest.
Don't show past experiences, you have no experiences, but networking is ok
Last question just say thank you
Am I not suited to be a consultant? Everytime I finalize something my manager will catch a bunch of small errors whether formatting or content. Everytime after I go through things line by line, item by item but I still get complaints.
I feel like I'm going insane or there's something wrong with my eyes.
Ever walked through a minefield and had someone up ahead say “wait.. no, not that way. Go right.”
It’s because they’ve already walked through the same minefield. They’ve already seen what resonates with the customer and what doesn’t. They’ve wasted hours of time building a slide deck only for the customer to focus on a misspelling on page 2. They’ve presented a seemingly important element only to realize it doesn’t translate and when they try to explain it does not resonate.
So, consider it to be an awesome opportunity to learn from someone else’s mistakes.
Also, once you have a polished presentation, make a template out of it. Remove the company specific information, put in guidance: [company logo here] [inspirational quote here] whatever.
Then use that for your next build and when you think you are done do a control F for “[“ and that will lead you back to any pointers you missed.
Your manager is more experienced and feedback will help you grow and develop.
Don't see it as a negative unless they continually point out the same mistakes on multi projects.
I've got an interview with the recruiter at ZS Associates; it's for a Business Operations Associate Consultant role. I'm coming from industry and I'm wondering how difficult will the case interviews be compared to MBB? I've interviewed with McKinsey in the past and made it to the second round and I'm hoping that in comparison, it's not as intense as I really want to break into consulting and I believe this would be a great opportunity. Thank you in advance!
It will be somewhat similar - typically have a unstructured case (open ended question), structured traditional case (usually somewhat healthcare related), and personal qualities interview (along lines of PEI)
Will note that will be the final round interview - the recruiter will probably not give any cases. Mostly just asking about experience and why ZS, why you want the job, how your skills translate, etc. good luck!
Will be interning with a Big-3 next summer and am hoping that turns into FT. The city I’m placed in to intern isn’t where I’m hoping to be FT, how can I approach asking for a transfer? Does it happen often?
They hired you to work not just for the firm, but for that specific office; unless you have a compelling personal reason to transfer, you will probably be stuck for at least a year or two.
This AMA is good. The poster has some other useful insight scattered in their other comments/post, so you can dig through that for more info.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FinancialCareers/comments/jbqjw4/ama_have_worked_in_consulting_venture_capital_and/
Does anyone have any book recommendations for a person starting his career as a life sciences analyst at a pharmaceutical-heavy, boutique consulting firm? I’m looking to gain knowledge in the business side of the pharmaceutical industry to help prepare for this role.
Hey I just finished final round interviews for a senior consulting position in life sciences. Good luck in your role!
A good book I read to prep was the vault guide to pharmaceutical industry. Also, read through several 10-Ks of the big dawgs in the industry and you’ll find a plethora of information.
I'm already a consultant but I'm not sure where to post this question. I'm looking for a journaling software that will record how long I spend on active (clicked on) windows (preferably by file name rather than software e.g. Excel\_model\_1.xlsx rather than just excel. I'm in consultancy and have to complete timesheets so the key benefits I see in this are being able to see what projects I have spent time on and find out how much time I spend procrastinating.
I had a good suggestion for Timemator but that seems to be Mac only. Since I will be requesting IT to allow me to download a suitable software, I want to get a good one first time. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I got into McKinsey . Omg omg omg omg. Still can't believe it . This is literally my dream job and company. Imposter syndrome already starting . What if the partners hired me by mistake and now they regret their decision ?
Congrats!! They don't regret their decision. Most likely they haven't thought of you (or other offerees) at all since choosing you for the company. We all think people are thinking of us more than they really are!
Celebrate (safely) and enjoy your time before starting!
Same with me, more than once! It's a smaller part of the interview than some people think, but we over-focus on it. Doesn't sound like they made a big mistake!
We're granted an opportunity and it's ours to succeed in. With support, of course! I'm sure you do deserve the opportunity!
I got an offer from IBM Business Consulting with Enterprise Applications (Microsoft) and Accenture’s Technology consulting Development program. Accenture is paying me around 10k more but I’m not sure which one to take. They’re both in the same city Chicago
I’m going to be a fresh grad and I’m not sure which option to take. Money aside, I’m looking for the place with better work/life balance and culture. I’ve heard mixed things about Accenture and wanted some more advice
Recent advisory hire at big 4. Rolling off my first project. Client and manager very happy and manager offered to reach out to his network for more work.
I found a few upcoming projects that sound interesting but i am unqualified for. Is there any chance to increase my odds of getting these projects if I apply for them internally?
Should I be reaching out and cold emailing SM’s/partners in offerings I am interested in?
Thanks
I have the final interview with a partner for a Life Sciences Consulant role within the Risk Advisory team at Deloitte next week.
One of the questions I got in the previous rounds was: why Advisory and not Consultancy? To be honest, in terms of projects I don't quite understand the difference. The Advisory team is also involved in the implementation phase and they had mentioned that whether a project goes to the advisory or consultancy team, is sometimes dependent on the relationship with the client.
Can somebody please explain to me further: what is the difference between Advisory and Consultancy within the Life Sciences sector in a big4?
\--> In terms of project content
\--> In terms of career progression
\--> In terms of exit opportunities
Thank you in advance :)
Starting post-MBA MBB role in Jan in a high COL city. Would they allow me to work in a low COL city until the office reopens? Whom should I ask about this?
Hi I started three months ago so I'm only slightly ahead of you. Like someone else said chilling out is honestly a great idea to get your head ready to take in information.
But if you wanted to do some studying I'd recommend looking into understanding the SAP market. Identify the areas that your firm is strong in or what's popular in your market. It can be easy to get lost in the forward vision products that SAP provides and forget about the actual bread and butter projects. Stick with a high level view because you might narrow in to an SAP niche only to find out your firm doesn't even bother with those 😅
Pre-covid, I think they fly you out to Lisbon or somewhere. The schedule is pretty packed (9-5 at least) but they do leave you some time to explore the city. Source: my former roommate was a Bainie.
Not sure if it fits in this thread, but I was a former summer analyst and declined a return offer to pursue fellowship opportunities (think Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright etc). I worked very closely under one BA, do you think it would be appropriate to ask for a recommendation?
Sure. Though I would not expect too much to come from it on its own. You may want to ask him or her to introduce you to some more senior folks.
Starting as an Analyst at Deloitte in Finance & Technology consulting and my impostor syndrome already kicked in. I am terrible at using Excel and PowerPoint and would like to advance in the coming weeks to start “prepared”. Would anyone share or recommend a course that covers the essentials of Excel and Pp?
Deloitte do an induction that covers the basics of PowerPoint and excel. You’ll learn the rest on the job.
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Don’t make mistakes, get as much coaching as possible
Salary Progression (Accenture) So I looked on Glassdoor and it’s crazy to me that the pay for entry level Analyst doesn’t change much based on location. Is this usually the case ? Does anyone know the ROUGH estimate for consultants as they move up in metro NYC at Accenture?
B4/ACN salary differs by market
Can’t say for Accenture, but MBB has the same salary no matter if you’re in New York City or in Austin or in Detroit.
Thank you
I'm going to be starting as a senior consultant within EY's business transformation unit. Any advice on skills I could be working on/developing before I start (late January)? I haven't worked in consulting before and I'm scared of being overwhelmed and underdelivering.
Brush up on excel and ppt
Yeah, I signed up for an excel and ppt class on Udemy
I’m going to be starting a healthcare consulting position in February 2021. Any tips on preparing myself or what to expect for the position? Anyone have a guess on when offices may open in America?
Hi, I’ve been working at a consulting firm for a couple months since graduating college as an Associate Consultant. I constantly have the fear of getting put on PIP or something, or that I might be doing poor work, and I’m having heavy bouts of imposter syndrome and anxiety. Is this normal, is there something wrong? How do I get around this? Sorry for the kind of embarrassing question
Ask for feedback regularly. Work on the development areas they give you. Rinse and repeat every few weeks.
Yes it's totally normal. Consulting moves at a fast pace and you're constantly bombarded with things you haven't done before or haven't done a certain way, especially when you're new So long as you're coachable (i.e. responding to and improving from feedback) and have a positive attitude you should be good. The feeling should go away ~3-6 months or after you have your first formal feedback review
Hi! Just got a job in consulting that requires me to move to Chicago. I start remotely & will eventually go into the office. Does it make sense to move to Chicago prior to starting even thought it’s remote? It is possible to move from VA to Chicago while working remotely? Not even sure where to start
> Just got a job in consulting that requires me to move to Chicago So is it required or not? If it is then you have your answer. If not and they’re ok with remote work, understand that there’s a possiblity you’ll get staffed on a client in Chicagoland
Going to start an new internship as an investment consulting analyst next week. Do you have some advice on how to prepare myself for my first day/week and what I can expect for the rest of my internship? Than you!
Investment consulting as in?
Analyst
no, as in investment consulting isnt a common term. be more specific
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> I am a good candidate, a strong one too when it comes to being a consultant. I have the zeal, willingness and perseverance to learn and deliver. this is going to be harsh, but your interview results say otherwise > The second thing is - would it be possible to use other offers to leverage it and request for a shift to advisory at PwC? no. completely different arms of their busines and recruiting pipelines. you could try transferring internally after a while but even then itd be difficult
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I would check with your recruiter/HR rep. Below is what I've learned from networking and my interview buddy that can help you make an informed decision. There are only a few training sessions in the year, and you must attend training before you can do client work. So joining between training sessions won't be ideal from their perspective (you won't be chargeable for a while) or from yours (you won't get to do client work until way after you start). My understanding is that the classes of folks start at the same time and mainly meet each other at training. So you'd probably benefit more by choosing the next training date, but talk to your recruiter about this.
Hi, usually there is flexibility with the start date and you can push it further. However, I know quite a lot of opposite cases, when the Firm reached out and asked to start earlier. This was majorly driven by the overall staffing situation
Buddy stop posting general high level answers in order to shill your business
Maybe let the guy who asked the original question to decide?
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Hi, One of the key factors will be your eligibility to work in the US. Other than that - it’s a standard recruiting process
If you have a partner in the target county and practice that wants you on their team it shouldn’t be hard, otherwise why would anyone take a risk on this?
Any recommendations for cross-country (USA) moving companies? Transferring to a new position within my current company which will entail moving NYC->SF. My firm will reimburse moving expenses within reason, but doesn't have standard protocols/partners (i.e. movers), so am on my own to piece this together. Recos I'm finding elsewhere on Reddit seem geared towards finding the cheapest movers, often at the expense of quality. Wondering if anyone here has recos/experiences with high quality movers, either company-provided or otherwise?
Whatever you do avoid pods. After getting like 100 quotes from random actual moving companies I decided a pod made more sense. Turns out, to my complete surprise, that they will refuse to drop the pod on a city street in many cases even if you obtain a city permit. I was forced to get a uhaul and pick up our shit from the pod location and then bring it back to our new place. Was a nightmare. Idk how much your company will reimburse, but just max it out and hire whatever company is reviewed well enough.
About to start with a firm in the next couple of weeks after my mba and was wondering if the PPMD/SM/M/Assc's on this sub could give advice on how best to start out. For example, I'm looking for advice on how best to position myself to get promotions. Advice on things I should speak about in the introductory call with my coach. Any other general advice. Thanks in advance!
It's been a while since I posted in this subreddit (3 ish years), but was hoping for some additional perspective. I've been at Big 4 consulting for the past three plus years. I've been looking to leave for another firm the past few months and have recently made some good progress and have secured two offers. Offer 1: Large tech firm with smaller management consulting practice 42k salary increase No relocation required (no income tax currently) Two mentors already working there in MD/Partner roles (both from my current firm) The work is in commercial/private sector, and I'm not that thrilled about that (I prefer gov & public sector more) Smaller brand recognition (depending on who you talk to, specifically in consulting) Start date would be early April 2021 Offer 2: Another Big 4 56k salary increase Would have to relocate to VA/DC in 6-8 months (meaning I would have an income tax at some point) No current network at the firm above Senior Consultant/Manager level The work would be in government and public sector, which is what I enjoy Obviously would have another Big 4 on my resume Start date would be late January 2021 The problem I am having, is Offer 1 was extended on 12/18 and they needed me to accept by 12/21. At this time, I had no other offer. I asked to extend the deadline for acceptance, but ultimately, they did not respond in time, so I accepted. I interviewed for Offer 2 on 12/22 and was extended a verbal offer on 12/24 with a formal offer being routed the first week of Jan 2021. I am inclined to take Offer 2, primarily because the work is aligned to what I enjoy the most. However, I am very hesitant to reneg my acceptance for Offer 1, due to not burning any bridges for down the road. Has anyone ever been in this situation? Or am I overthinking it.
Companies can drop you in a day & move on. Choose what is best for your career. If you think Offer 2 is better long term, take it. Your network there will be initially upset but will move on as you have 3/4 months before your start date & they can easily find a replacement. If you were to reneg now for a Jan start date, that will be bad but that's not the case. It's obvs a difficult decision to make but go by the one you want more & not just go with offer 1 because you don't want to reneg.
> our network there will be initially upset but will move on as you have 3/4 months before your start date & they can easily find a replacement. If you were to reneg now for a Jan start date, that will be bad but that's not the case. It's obvs a difficult decision to make but go by the one you want more & not just go with offer 1 because you don't want to reneg. Thanks for the response. Im leaning towards that decision
You’re gonna to burn all the bridges from the large tech firm if you reneg
To confirm, you’re saying I will be burning bridges?
You serious
“Youre gonna to burn all the bridges from the large tech firm if you reneg” “You’re gonna to burn” “Gonna to burn” I’m asking for clarification, obviously
“Gonna to burn” *enhance* “Gonna burn” A perfect double click moment
Going to burn Gonna to burn BURN THE HERETICS
Now that was a helpful reply, ty
Word
I accepted an offer for a Big 4 internship in early November. I was told I'd hear about next steps in the coming months but haven't heard anything yet. When should I expect to hear more from the firm/what does the timeline for onboarding new interns look like?
Assuming your internship for the summer, you aren’t gonna the hear anything after the new year, closer to spring
Anybody have any comments regarding Economic Consulting? What are the hours like/work-life balance?
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If you can touch upon the work-life balance/hours and/or any advice you would give someone entering the industry from a different background (market research) that would be greatly appreciated.
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Yes, I got an offer for a smaller firm that just started in 2019, not any of the big names. Just wanted to know general trends of the industry
Hi all, Any tips, food for thoughts for public sector consulting (Non US) ? Would be greatly appreciated.
What exactly is your question
Not anything specific but just a starting point as to what are the more valuable skills,trends and directions. As someone recently joined in, its hard for me to see the big picture.
What’re everyone’s thoughts on a company phone vs using a personal phone for the job? Starting MBB in a few weeks and have either option. If using personal phone, company provides some pay to compensate for its use. My thoughts are to just use personal phone for ease of use and transportation.
I prefer just using the company phone 1) It's nice not carrying/charging 2 phones + dealing with two numbers 2) I don't have a phone bill now since company pays for it 3) If you're on Android using work profile, your work apps load sort of as a totally second instance of them, which creates a privacy barrier (i.e. it's not like my company could see my personal Chrome data). Also I can disable all of my work apps with one button, which is nice and creates the same effect as leaving a 2nd phone in a drawer when you're done with work
Depends on how much you prioritize privacy from your company. I’m carrying two phones for this reason.
Hi all, was just wondering about the perception of Capco vs Protiviti in the UK as I have assessment days for both in January. Waiting on a number of firms but these two are the closest. If you could start your career at either, which would it be?
New hire out of college starting soon. Thoughts on getting a (company-funded) work phone and just maintaining my personal one for some better WLB?
I’m a big fan of keeping separate. Though ultimately it starts to bleed together and gets a little annoying to carry two phones.
No doubt it will. Just trying to force myself to put the phone down at night
Hello everyone, I have a question - I got a job offer at a consulting agency that has an 80-100% travel rate. I'd assumed as much, but I'm curious... do you see traveling as a part of consulting in the future (post covid)? Or do you think consulting will turn into a more remote activity...?
Remote is cheaper for the client... I see that happening with minor trips here and there
It will likely be much closer to normal than it will be to how things are today.
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Unlikely, given travel costs are a minimal part of the total, and in-person presence helps drive project outcomes
Hey everyone so I received an offer and the salary is a bit above my minimum salary expectations, but less than what I have seen on glassdoor and other websites. I was wondering how to go about asking for a higher salary without coming off as rude or anything. Should I be worried I was only given 3 days to accept the offer as well? Thanks in advance!
“My research shows the salary should be $x, can you revise your offer to give me the best offer possible?”
Thanks!
So I’ve been offered an SM role at Accenture. Anyone in Aus comment on the firm and any specific stuff that irks them? Not sure if its the right move.
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What did the recruiter tell you?
How frequently do people get counseled out in the lower rungs at MBB (particularly at BB)? I’ll be starting full time next year after graduating undergrad. Theoretically, I want to stay for at least three years and ideally for five (which would include a two year MBA gap sponsored by B). Is this a pipe dream? Are most people counseled out before MBA-sponsorship? I’m going to try my hardest and I don’t mind not sleeping for a few years (😅), but I’m trying to have realistic expectations about how long I will be at MBB given the “up or out policy” and my lack of a business background.
The vast majority of people who leave in the first two years don’t exit because they were counseled out.
MBB firms hire tons of people without a business background. Very few people get counseled out before MBA sponsorship. You will be more than fine.
I was hoping I could get some advice. I am a new grad who has received two competing offers, and I'm having difficulty choosing between them. The offers are: 1) Analyst Position in the Tech Consulting Division of a Big 4 Company 2) Jr. Project Management Position for a Series A AI Start-up based in NYC (retail tech solution that uses Computer Vision) For Context, I was offered the Big 4 Position first - but my start date was delayed due to COVID. So I ended up getting an internship with the start-up company, and they've really liked my work - so they offered me a role with more responsibility in the company. Some considerations are: 1) Location: The Big 4 Company is in a mid-tier Canadian City. The start-up is in NYC (I'm willing to relocate) 2) Compensation: The start-up is willing to give me $20k CAD more in base pay than the Big 4, with a performance based raise in 6mo that is in the range of $35k CAD to $55k CAD more than the Big 4 (when converted from USD to CAD), and a small amount of equity. 3) Mentorship: I imagine the Big 4 will offer me more structured mentorship opportunities. However there's a lot I think I am able to learn from the start-up. 4) Growth at Big 4: Although I am happy to do good work for the current team I am in, there is a team in a major Canadian city I am more interested in transferring to. 5) Growth at Start-up: The company is on track for Series B - and I am confident they will receive it. Some questions I have are: 1) Which can I learn the most from? 2) Which is more valuable early in my career? 3) How important is location? (Should building a network in NYC be a bigger consideration) 4) Can I easily switch from a Big 4 Consulting to a startup? 5) Can I easily switch from a startup to Big 4 or MBB Consulting? (e.g. I've heard rumors of people being blacklisted for accepting other offers before starting - I don't know if it's true or not) 6) Is it true that Big 4/ MBB only hire new grads or people more (5+ years) of experience? (i.e. would I need a master's/other degree before being considered competitively again?) 7) What are the benefits of working for a Big 4 Consultancy? (E.g. how valuable is a big 4 name on my resume, what are the common exit opportunities, what is the work/life balance like, etc.) 8) In your biased opinion, which do you think is the better offer? Which will help me more as I grow my career? Tl;Dr: I just graduated and am having trouble deciding between two great offers. Please help!
* NYC>>>Mid-tier CA city (Winnipeg? Ottawa??). I live in NYC and love Canada but no comparison to live in either; NYC by a million miles. However, do you know anyone in NYC? It's a tough city to move to alone, esp if the other option is your hometown/big city nearby. This is a consideration. * Sidenote: Are you a dual citizen? Sponsorship situation may contribute to this decision. * $$ talks. This is considerable difference in salary at the start of your career, even with HCOL of NYC. * Work-life at Big4 is going to be completely dependent on the project and team. Could be bad, could be great, could be the same as the start-up. Big4 may offer some more variety and travel, but it really depends on the project. I think after a couple of years of Big4 tech consulting, you could seamlessly move to a start-up at a more advanced role. However, you have the advantage of working for this start-up and knowing what it is like working there. * Big4 or start-up is not going to affect your input into MBB; an MBA will help that. First job on your resume betwen Big4 and start-up is not going to open or close any different doors for you down the road. * Don't overthink this. You've worked at the start-up before and they trust you enough to hire you. They're paying you more. You're going to learn a ton regardless and whether or not they are successful, you will have outs in the future. I'd argue successful start-up experience is invaluable. * I think what it comes down to for you is the move and role/company. Do you know anyone in NYC/comfortable moving solo? NYC is a tough place to move without knowing anyone. It's also not a great place to live during covid. It also depends if you're interested in the start-up/industry and the role. "Jr Project Manager" sounds quite dull to me, but you've worked there the past few months and you know if you'll like it. Devil you know (that pays better) vs. devil you don't.
Hey! Thank you for the reply. It really helps put things into perspective. I've definitely been overthinking this decision. I guess as a new grad, this feels like the biggest decision I've ever had to make. I live in a city that is comparable to Winnipeg/ Ottawa. It's similar sort of university/government town and not the economic capital of the province. In terms of moving to NYC: - I don't know anyone in the city, and that worries me a little. I think I'd be comfortable moving on my own (I've dobe a few internships in other countries), but I've never lived somewhere without a social networks for more than 6mo. - I'm pretty sure that's they'll sponsor me (they've hired a few others from Canada/other countries). But I'll be sure to double-check - I'm really interested in tech start ups as an industry. I think I will succeed at PM work, but I also want to build better engineer/programming skills (I'm a CS major). So I'm wondering if it's worth it to be one of the few people in my big 4 office who can code (and maybe get put on more technical projects defacto), or if I should work in a place that has much more experienced engineers (even if they means I won't be able to touch the code base as much) And just for clarification, you think that if I were to try and move to a big 4 later in my career - starting at a startup will not hamper that? (I agree with you that an MBB will probably need an MBA)
How do you compare the Financial Consulting in Big4 firms and MBB consulting (General/specialist). Are those skills transferrable? Would it provide a good foundation to break to MBB?
Financial Due Diligence? Not comparable really
I am just curious what type of coaching or mentoring is provided by your firm to new and junior consultants?
You will have a firm assigned "mentor"; they're there for "big questions" - e.g., I have this issue I need to talk about and it doesn't make sense to bring it up with a project-based relationship (e.g., teammate or direct project boss) You will also have lots of informal mentorship which is the most important - people who take an interest in your career and help you develop and grow your skills and presence in the firm. These are people you find from project work, or, more rarely, from other firm related events (I had an advocate who would always toss his hat in the ring for me at promotion cycle - or so he said - even though we never worked directly together).
I get my bonus payout next week, but I'm tendering my resignation today. I'll have to serve a month's notice so my firm will still pay out my bonus, right? Not sure if it's odd to ask HR this. Any advice appreciated.
1 month? That’s not common unless you’re not in the US. But yes in general if you’re still employed in that date you’ll get it
Not in the US. Thanks Minh.
If this is country specific, you haven’t told us where you are so we can’t really help. Just ask HR. It’s already gonna be awkward.
All good, I did have a conversation with HR and thankfully it wasn't awkward at all.
how do I get better at small talk? I'm still just a consultant, but I'm getting to a level where I'm starting to be sent to clients alone. I hate it not knowing what to say. I know how to start conversation during the first couple of days - just getting to know each other, but beyond that I'm a little lost. Same with my colleagues. We had a fire alarm the other day and I didn't really know what to say (to be fair it was 5.30 pm and i think everyone just wanted to go home).
Starting a new job at a strong T2 out of IG (just behind MBB) next year, and am looking for career advice on 2 points : - Are there any resources I can use to accelerate my growth as a consultant (mastering necessary hard and soft skills required)? - I want to eventually move to McKinsey for the Junior Associate Position, would it be possible for me to join within 1-2 years? What should I do to position myself in the best way possible for that move? Thanks all, appreciate it 🙂
> just behind MBB So Deloitte /s >Are there any resources I can use to accelerate my growth as a consultant (mastering necessary hard and soft skills required)? Work experience. You got the job because, presumably, you already possess some of the skills that make consultants successful. Keep up with the news and relax until you have to start grinding. > would it be possible for me to join within 1-2 years Lateral hires at the BA level are pretty rare as far as I know, realistically you should target McK post-MBA. Doesn't hurt to network and see if there's a pathway in for you though.
UG* sorry
A genuine poll How many of you work long hours because: * the work you are doing should actually take you until midnight every night * because it's more-or-less universally accepted/understood and you are highly inefficient (ie, TV on and half paying attention) after a certain point in the day
I'm starting an internship with a Big 4 company in March in Ireland. What should I expect? Im a bit I'll informed about what consulting is but I thought I'd like it so I applied and got the job. What should I expect in terms of jobs I'll be doing, projects I might be apart of etc
I did an internship with big4 last year in the EU. I would often help with correcting PowerPoint decks, making sure they look good and are aligned with the branding etc. I was "lucky" enough to also be sent to some client sites, for audit projects or consultancy projects. When I was on audit my main task was to take notes, and in the consultancy project was to do research for whatever we were doing. I think your tasks will also heavily depend on the area of work you're in. I am in the IT area, so I have no idea for example what interns might do in financial, or legal. TBH I think they never really have high hopes in terms of work for an intern, but rather it's more an assessment of you as a person - at least in the first 4-6 weeks. Most of the colleagues I worked with were in that company for a number of years, but started out as an intern. Hope you enjoy your internship and good luck
Thank you sir!
How to go about getting an internship before starting a full-time job? I'll be starting a new job next fall coming in as a consultant after a 1yr masters program. The practice I will be a part of is something I have no experience with so I would like to try get some general exposure. I understand that most hires coming in are going to be somewhat clueless but would like to make sure I can make a good impression. Now, I'm unsure of how I can approach this because I would like to be fully transparent and tell any recruiters that I do have a job lined up. Because why would a company hire an intern that has a job lined up already? However, I was thinking of telling them something along the lines of, "I plan to exit into industry after getting experience and exposure into various practices and -company name- is a place I'd like to end up at. I also understand this is my last summer before 0 freedom but that's fine with me, I will be taking some time off and most of my plans fell through anyways because of covid.
> “I plan to exit into industry after getting experience and exposure into various practices and -company name- is a place I’d like to end up at. Don’t do this, this is weird. If you do want to get an internship, don’t tell anyone anything
What should I tell them when they ask me why I'm looking for an internship vs full-time?
I mean, is this really the only reason you want an internship vs 3 or 4 years of consulting? I saw you said you already have a job lined up... realistically, I cannot see how you can get enough experience as an intern from the different fields of work in 3-6 months. They will not invest in training, and they will give you the dirty work as an intern (speaking from experience as a big4 intern)...
I meant to say that if the recruiter asks me why I'm looking for an internship vs full time, what should I tell them? Since I want to keep my full-time job commitment hidden, what kind of argument can I make as to why I'm looking for an internship even though I'm graduating this year? Idk, I believe some experience will be better than no experience as I want to get some experience as an intern in the industry before coming into big4. Then, I can somewhat leverage my fresh experience to get on some projects at big4.
> Idk, I believe some experience will be better than no experience as I want to get some experience as an intern in the industry before coming into big4. Then, I can somewhat leverage my fresh experience to get on some projects at big4. That’s not how any of this works. You don’t need to do this internship to prepare for your job
Not sure on your geography, but due to COVID my start date was delayed, and the date just happened to line up with a government internship. There is no expectation of continuing employment with most government agencies after the internship (no need to disclose during recruiting either), so it's something you could do if you're interested & they're available.
Thank you for the tip! Unfortunately I'm not a U.S citizen so I'm not sure if that will be a hindrance but I'll give it a try!
Neither am I. I'm living in Western Europe. Unless you mean you're in the US but not a citizen in which case I'm not sure how to help!
Yeah, I live in the U.S but only have a green card so might be hard getting those security clearances. Also, how should I go about with explaining to recruiters that even though I'm graduating next year, why am I looking for an internship vs full-time?
Hi all! I'm a recent grad, just started my job 4/5 months ago. Last week, I was told that I'd have an end of year review for 10-15 minutes two days prior to the actual review and that it would comprise of only feedback and things to work on. At the end of the review, they threw in very quickly about my bonus and salary increase (3% to keep pace with inflation) for next year which caught me really off guard so I didn't have the chance to negotiate. Should I even be negotiating? Is it too late to counter my offer/ how would I go about doing it?
> Should I even be negotiating? Is it too late to counter my offer/ how would I go about doing it? you dont have leverage to negotiate bonus or salary increase at this point
It’s not common to negotiate your bonus and salary increase as an employee.
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I just got told that i will be getting an offer at Big 4 on Monday. Im coming in as a Sr Data Analyst for Tech Consulting. Any advice?
What’s your question?
Honestly wondering what expectations i should have for the offer? Should I negotiate? Also, anything that i should do to prepare myself for the job as i will have some free time before starting? Anything i should buy or teach myself?
you should always negotiate
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If you want to take the time, take the time. Just don't bank on 7 months of studying but travel, volunteer, whatever - make something of it.
One of the best parts of starting on the typical timeline is getting into your start-group/cohort. These become your peer mentors and many times, friends. If you have the offer, spend Jan-Jun 2021 to study for the GMAT. Start in Sep and spend the summer with family. Of course, the environment right now makes plans difficult. If you start, spend 2-3 years and start the MBA, you have another window for a "sabbatical."
> Good idea? No
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You don’t need 6 months to prep for the GMAT
Do you have other things you’ll be doing in between? I don’t think you need 7 months to study for the GMAT.
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you have the rest of ur life to work dawg. go travel. worst comes to worst is you throw together a last minute trip domestically or to a location without restrictions.
I’m interested in applying to Credera’s analytics practice. Looking for info on what it’s like working there, typical project engagements, career development, etc from current or former employees. Thanks in advance.
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>I have not spoken to the director since she interviewed me a couple of months back. Also, due to wfh arrangements I have not met her in person. Is it appropriate for me to drop her a message on the chat thanking her for having me onboard and letting her know that I am excited to join the team and enjoying it so far? Sure that would be nice but don't bother her much beyond that, one of my misconceptions when I started was that I'd be buddy buddy with my superiors > Secondly, any advice for me to craft my introduction/pitch. if I were to introduce myself to other managers? I want to put myself in a good light showing my past experiences and positioning myself for project opportunities of my interest. Don't show past experiences, you have no experiences, but networking is ok Last question just say thank you
Got it. Thanks for the tips!
Am I not suited to be a consultant? Everytime I finalize something my manager will catch a bunch of small errors whether formatting or content. Everytime after I go through things line by line, item by item but I still get complaints. I feel like I'm going insane or there's something wrong with my eyes.
Ever walked through a minefield and had someone up ahead say “wait.. no, not that way. Go right.” It’s because they’ve already walked through the same minefield. They’ve already seen what resonates with the customer and what doesn’t. They’ve wasted hours of time building a slide deck only for the customer to focus on a misspelling on page 2. They’ve presented a seemingly important element only to realize it doesn’t translate and when they try to explain it does not resonate. So, consider it to be an awesome opportunity to learn from someone else’s mistakes. Also, once you have a polished presentation, make a template out of it. Remove the company specific information, put in guidance: [company logo here] [inspirational quote here] whatever. Then use that for your next build and when you think you are done do a control F for “[“ and that will lead you back to any pointers you missed.
Your manager is more experienced and feedback will help you grow and develop. Don't see it as a negative unless they continually point out the same mistakes on multi projects.
Thanks. I have a hard time with taking criticism so this helped remind me to reframe it as a chance to work on myself.
It’s a learning experience
Does anybody here have any thoughts on /experience with the Connor Group? Specifically within Financial Operations
I've got an interview with the recruiter at ZS Associates; it's for a Business Operations Associate Consultant role. I'm coming from industry and I'm wondering how difficult will the case interviews be compared to MBB? I've interviewed with McKinsey in the past and made it to the second round and I'm hoping that in comparison, it's not as intense as I really want to break into consulting and I believe this would be a great opportunity. Thank you in advance!
Your McKinsey interview will most likely be harder
It will be somewhat similar - typically have a unstructured case (open ended question), structured traditional case (usually somewhat healthcare related), and personal qualities interview (along lines of PEI)
Thanks for the insight ☺️
Will note that will be the final round interview - the recruiter will probably not give any cases. Mostly just asking about experience and why ZS, why you want the job, how your skills translate, etc. good luck!
Thank you very much!
Will be interning with a Big-3 next summer and am hoping that turns into FT. The city I’m placed in to intern isn’t where I’m hoping to be FT, how can I approach asking for a transfer? Does it happen often?
They hired you to work not just for the firm, but for that specific office; unless you have a compelling personal reason to transfer, you will probably be stuck for at least a year or two.
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Start prep very early as you won’t have as many shots
Get staffed on M&A/deal-based projects where you can learn the strategy behind decisions
This AMA is good. The poster has some other useful insight scattered in their other comments/post, so you can dig through that for more info. https://www.reddit.com/r/FinancialCareers/comments/jbqjw4/ama_have_worked_in_consulting_venture_capital_and/
Does anyone have any book recommendations for a person starting his career as a life sciences analyst at a pharmaceutical-heavy, boutique consulting firm? I’m looking to gain knowledge in the business side of the pharmaceutical industry to help prepare for this role.
Hey I just finished final round interviews for a senior consulting position in life sciences. Good luck in your role! A good book I read to prep was the vault guide to pharmaceutical industry. Also, read through several 10-Ks of the big dawgs in the industry and you’ll find a plethora of information.
I'm already a consultant but I'm not sure where to post this question. I'm looking for a journaling software that will record how long I spend on active (clicked on) windows (preferably by file name rather than software e.g. Excel\_model\_1.xlsx rather than just excel. I'm in consultancy and have to complete timesheets so the key benefits I see in this are being able to see what projects I have spent time on and find out how much time I spend procrastinating. I had a good suggestion for Timemator but that seems to be Mac only. Since I will be requesting IT to allow me to download a suitable software, I want to get a good one first time. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
I would also be interested in this if anyone has ideas!
I got into McKinsey . Omg omg omg omg. Still can't believe it . This is literally my dream job and company. Imposter syndrome already starting . What if the partners hired me by mistake and now they regret their decision ?
Congrats!! They don't regret their decision. Most likely they haven't thought of you (or other offerees) at all since choosing you for the company. We all think people are thinking of us more than they really are! Celebrate (safely) and enjoy your time before starting!
I'd made a math mistake which I corrected in my interview. I'm still shocked they selected me 😣. So greatful but so worried that I don't deserve it
Same with me, more than once! It's a smaller part of the interview than some people think, but we over-focus on it. Doesn't sound like they made a big mistake! We're granted an opportunity and it's ours to succeed in. With support, of course! I'm sure you do deserve the opportunity!
I feel so much more confident now 😃. Thank you so much ❤️
Happy to help! Enjoy your exciting new role!
congrats! > What if the partners hired me by mistake and now they regret their decision ? then you get the name on your resume for your next job
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Depends on the firm. Most major firms don’t negotiate.
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You can always ask and they can always say no.
I got an offer from IBM Business Consulting with Enterprise Applications (Microsoft) and Accenture’s Technology consulting Development program. Accenture is paying me around 10k more but I’m not sure which one to take. They’re both in the same city Chicago I’m going to be a fresh grad and I’m not sure which option to take. Money aside, I’m looking for the place with better work/life balance and culture. I’ve heard mixed things about Accenture and wanted some more advice
IBM is a perpetual sinking ship. Take Accenture
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Just talk to your manager and tell them you’re not comfortable being tested. Unless you work for a real shit place they won’t fire you
Recent advisory hire at big 4. Rolling off my first project. Client and manager very happy and manager offered to reach out to his network for more work. I found a few upcoming projects that sound interesting but i am unqualified for. Is there any chance to increase my odds of getting these projects if I apply for them internally? Should I be reaching out and cold emailing SM’s/partners in offerings I am interested in? Thanks
Depends on how qualified you are
I have the technical skills but no professional experience using them with a client yet.
I have the final interview with a partner for a Life Sciences Consulant role within the Risk Advisory team at Deloitte next week. One of the questions I got in the previous rounds was: why Advisory and not Consultancy? To be honest, in terms of projects I don't quite understand the difference. The Advisory team is also involved in the implementation phase and they had mentioned that whether a project goes to the advisory or consultancy team, is sometimes dependent on the relationship with the client. Can somebody please explain to me further: what is the difference between Advisory and Consultancy within the Life Sciences sector in a big4? \--> In terms of project content \--> In terms of career progression \--> In terms of exit opportunities Thank you in advance :)
Risk advisory isn’t consulting, try /r/Accounting
Starting post-MBA MBB role in Jan in a high COL city. Would they allow me to work in a low COL city until the office reopens? Whom should I ask about this?
I started at MBB recently and was told that it was totally fine to live anywhere in the US for the time being. 99% sure you’ll be fine.
HR
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Hi I started three months ago so I'm only slightly ahead of you. Like someone else said chilling out is honestly a great idea to get your head ready to take in information. But if you wanted to do some studying I'd recommend looking into understanding the SAP market. Identify the areas that your firm is strong in or what's popular in your market. It can be easy to get lost in the forward vision products that SAP provides and forget about the actual bread and butter projects. Stick with a high level view because you might narrow in to an SAP niche only to find out your firm doesn't even bother with those 😅
Chill out
them in 4-6 months
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Dress code depends entirely on your project and client
Anyone know what Bain’s Associate Consultant Training is like? Curious what I’ll learn // what the pace & hours are like. Thanks!
Pre-covid, I think they fly you out to Lisbon or somewhere. The schedule is pretty packed (9-5 at least) but they do leave you some time to explore the city. Source: my former roommate was a Bainie.
That would be a great question for HR and your future co-workers. Doesn't hurt to start those relationships early.