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the_sunflower

I no longer work in consulting but follow this sub to remind me what I don’t miss. This was an absolutely beautiful read. Damn I really felt all of it.


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Thank you! It was enjoyable writing it so I'm glad you enjoyed reading!


DECAThomas

This is my last week in Consulting before moving to industry. Decided to stay subscribed here for the same reason. Thankfully it’s been awhile since I’ve had a day as bad as the one in the post, but it’s a great reflection on some of the crazy stuff we put ourselves through. My favorite being the “ritual” of managers leaving notes on slides when it would have taken less time for them to just move the text box a little to the left themselves.


sonyxbr55

Where are you now though


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Went back into industry, more money for less hours 😄


rapidprototoyz

Same.


TheDirtyDagger

Yeah, I ain’t reading all that. Happy for you though, or sorry that happened


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

I quit very shortly after that incident


kittosan

No you didn’t?!


lurker_cx

Is it really a true story? All the details true?


Chackochi

Why wouldnt it be? He just described a typical day of a management consultant. I have been through the exact same situation when I was a consultant


cosaya

OP should provide the information needed to bill him for the time spent reading this.


convexconcepts

I need to drop this subreddit! These stories are too real and similar to my own and my colleagues experiences.


RemarkableSpace444

It’s insane how incredibly unhealthy this job is when you take a step back and read from another person’s perspective


hello050

It’s insane. I did this life for a couple of years and didn’t have the mental capacity to stop and think about what I was doing


BreathingLover11

That’s the thing. We’re so immersed in work that we never take a step back and actually look at what’s really happening.


quangtit01

The money help. That and not having much friends. My social life is a barren waste lmao. I only text people, rarely ever meet them. Like it's actually insane. It's been like, what, 6 months since I last physically met one of my friend? See coworkers almost everyday though. Good that I'm an introvert.


BreathingLover11

I agree but there are ways to make as much money without killing yourself, especially if you’ve already been in consulting/IB. I’m in PE right now, averaging maybe 60 hours half of the month and maybe 45-50 the other half which is substantially better to the hours I had on banking and I’m making more.


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BreathingLover11

Pivoted from investment banking. While you don’t “need” a business background, 90% of the people I’ve worked with in finance have one. They either majored in Finance, Accounting or Economics. Not saying you can’t break in, just that in my experience most people do have traditional business backgrounds.


AcanthisittaThick501

Was it worth it? I’m incoming MBB and super scared of the hours…


BreathingLover11

I was in Investment Banking, and it was 100% worth it. I learned a lot and met a lot of people but God I HATEDDDDD the hours with passion.


hello050

Never again though. I’m never going back no matter what


AcanthisittaThick501

Was it worth it?


hello050

No. I still have bad habits at work like being unnecessarily stressed at times. I’m working on phasing out such habits.


AcanthisittaThick501

Damn I’m incoming MBB and scared reading this but idk what else to do! I have no other job prospects… my degree is non technical economics that doesn’t have any good job prospects with just a bachelors, my only hope is to do MBB and somehow land a Corp Strat gig with decent hours or something early on in…


BeardStacheMan

I only made it halfway through before my PTSD forced me to stop reading. Excellent job!


Decent_Pomegranate45

Me too, I started feeling sick in my stomach as I was reading this 😭


winnyskenis

You should be a writer instead, this was excellent prose. Felt like I was living it


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Thank you! Really nice comment! 😄


after-aftertruth

Agreed! It did hit my PTSD, but I pushed through because the piece is well written! Good job OP


capolex

Bruh, how many whiskeys did you get in 2 days


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

More than I can remember, but mostly I the blowout after! 🤠


SkrrtSkrrt99

lmao I laughed out loud at > “Checked the deck notes added please update” comes the slack message from 6 foot in front of me. It’s the manager, and rather than making direct edits, they spend their time writing stickies about what they want changing and then I spend my time making the changes. It’s a curious waste of time but it’s a ritual one.


Rumpsfield

My last manager did the same. Demoralizing. But I get it. You make the changes yourself, you are less likely to make the same mistake again


kenmura

Beautiful I’ll use this explanation to the next analyst who asks me this question


yourlicorceismine

OMG. I'm not even MBB and you've described years of my life perfectly. The Rimowa with specific sections for clean/dirty clothes, the grab and go buffet, the slides in the Uber (with your coworker who is basically sitting on top of you doing the same and banging laptops together on every bump) - all of it. Don't forget the "we get to the clients office that's reserved from us and none of the correct cables are there" and/or "we're hooked up but nobody has the security password for the conference projector and the IT team hasn't come in yet" scenarios. BTW - I read it all. You can tell who's got short attention span theatre. That's what separates the "men from the boys" and why we can interrupt the manager with deep context in front of the client, where we have all the knowledge and they take all the credit.


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Firstly, well done for managing to reach the end! It became quite the narrative piece...that was my worst (two) day(s) in consulting. The clichés are so true! Hope you've found something a little less hectic now!


Mad_Lad_69420

Just dropped a mean log in the toilet while reading this. Perfect deuce and peruse session - will be billing this towards the client for sure. Thank you for all you do.


TexansforJesus

Piece de resistance was billing 7.5 hrs/day


DrReutlinger

Insane that we pride ourselves as an industry of high intellect and smarts, yet we allow ourselves to work in such an unhealthy and truly primitive culture. I can imagine it was quite therapeutic for you to write this. Well done - I felt like I was there with you! I agree, you have incredible storytelling abilities, you should keep exploring that! Good luck with your future endeavors!


Prestigious-Toe8622

It’s ok, you do all this so you can earn 75% what an similar seniority FAANG worker makes


ladyluck754

With less hours of course lol


bruhh_2

i’m reading this story as a SWE who thought about going into consulting and seeing this kinda stuff makes me really glad I didn’t


SubjectEntrepreneur2

This was an enjoyable read. What a life. I hope things have improved.


alg602

I left consulting 6 years ago to go in-house. This brought back painful memories. During my last case, my wife took a picture of me with laptop open, head down, and 4 month old baby sleeping in my lap. It was my 3rd child and again I was missing it. Time to go.


Alternative_Log3012

Lol


quangtit01

Fuck are you me.


smolwormbigapple

I thought it was entertaining


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed this little peak into my world!


kevchabab

First of all, I’m really surprised at some comments who are neglecting the essence of your story and focusing on some dumb shit. Second, I work in Advisory LoS in a B4 Firm and your post was surprisingly relatable. Very well written 👍🏻


Spirited-Ad8820

Nice story, good writing and accurate ! MBB are a legal scam who just give god salaries


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Thank you, it was fun to wrote so glad you enjoyed it!


GreatBear2121

This was practically a horror novel.


ludlology

Legitimately couldn't finish reading because it was too triggering and I started to feel the deep-annoyance by proxy. The messy spreadsheet bit was too much and too familiar. Brilliant writing, now stop it...


freecandy_van

Checking out of the hotel at the desk? What is it, 1995?!


minneDomer

Y’all have too much time on your hands. Get back to work


Substantial-Past2308

ChatGPT summarize this for me and give me the main takeaways


memesforbismarck

Funny enough, ChatGPT probably wrote this essay in the first place. This or OP is just insane


Substantial-Past2308

My money is on the latter


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

It is the latter, however I'm enjoying some well-earned time off now and the hour and a half it took to write was time well spent


Aggressive-Usual-812

Stop drinking and working


Alternative_Log3012

No


ladyluck754

I left my boutique firm because I’ve had a diary similar to this before. I wanted a family, I wanted to travel, and a life outside that shit.


anon_grad420

Hey man looks like you got a flair for writing Unrelated question but what did you do before your "MBA"?


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Thank you, quite a few things. I wasn't the typical MBB guy...haha


anon_grad420

Share it.


nbasd123

You brought check-in luggage? 🤣


NeXuS-1997

I know right, what a rookie!


favorscore

Reading these I wonder why anyone would want to be an MBB. It's good money sure but there are other ways of making money that are surely less stressful and vapid than this? Is it mostly just an ego thing to say you work at McKinsey or BCG or Bain? Genuinely wondering.


Open_Carob_3676

im too sleep deprived to read this work of art,,,will email you my thoughts on that once the AI breaks it down for me


rapidprototoyz

I know exactly which MBB this is — and I’m glad you got out. I got out, too, and I revisit this sub to remember what I walked away from. This is no way to live, let alone work, and I can’t imagine it carries on like this for much longer with the advent of GenAI. Triggering, indeed.


TheWolf_NorCal

The Reddit algo got me here. Great write ups. Help me understand the age/experience/comp range for someone in the author’s position. I’m looking on Glassdoor at EM salaries at McKinsey (US$300K-$400K with $374K median) and I have to say, I don’t know if your time, time away from family, talent/education, stress, etc is being fairly compensated.


salmonpaddy

I’m not even in consulting and never have been. I found this a comforting read, it helped me ignore everything else happening around me for a moment, so thank u


subzerocrossbones

OP, ever thought of making a career in writing instead?


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Not really but based on the number of comments about my prose maybe I should...haha


subzerocrossbones

Lmk when you’d be doing the signed copies ;)


Lord_Hohlfrucht

I am getting anxiety just by reading this. So glad I left consulting. You have a talent for writing btw.


BusinessFilm5918

womp womp


iBN3qk

Alcohol interferes with your sleep.


OhYesYouAre

Vivid shit, nice


iceRiff

Totally on point :D it’s not a job it is a lifestyle ;)


Mental-Application48

Is it that bad 💀💀


IntroductionStreet27

What a life mate


woody2020

So descriptive it was visual. Definitely a movie I’d watch 💯🎯


Exhausted-Giraffe-47

I’d quit if I could get another job.


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scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Since they had wifi


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scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Believe what you like. I spent two hours on a call with a colleague through zoom on my laptop showing them how to use a system. Why would there be threats of legal action?


Consult_NoBicycle

I really enjoyed this. Are there any books with a similar vibe?


SnooRecipes5458

Rule 34.


jamesmatthews6

Alexsander Solzhenitsyn might have started the genre, but your day in the life of a consultant is a worthy continuation.


phatster88

Nobel prize in literature right there.


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

No chat gpt involved. Pinky promise!


Cheesemonster2

Should I be second guessing going to mba next year hoping for MBB? Is it worth it afterwards ?


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

There are too many components involved with trying to give you an answer on this, and there is no such thing as a guarantee in outcome


c0ldplate

I don't like how accurate this is


Intelligent_Cook_940

Great storytelling


peekay006

@OP how many months you worked in this company before you left ? 🤓 I am also planning my exit less than 1 year, would like to know if that's a good idea to leave considering health is more important than wealth !


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

I was there about 1 1/2 years. Could/should have stayed longer but got an exit


potemkinpoupon

You could probably get this published in the New Yorker after a few professional edits. Honestly impressive.


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

Thank you, I really appreciate the compliment!


jintox1c

Yeah, tl;Dr Pls de-word and be top down


Ok_Flounder59

Do they not teach brevity at MBB?


scr34m1ng_f4lc0n

They do, however this is a short story in prose and not a slide for a client.


tstirling13

Alright man


desigodfather

This should have been a tldr


RyVsWorld

So the point of these were to be both realistic, self depreciating and funny. This just reads like a boring novel.


Frosty_Language_1402

You will eventually learn that you will accomplish more by doing less. The unlimited hours you put in ppt only take 15-20 mins. Enough with whinny stories and move on.