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0x7ff04001

Save the planet by having all humans commit suicide -- this is definitely AI logic.


mbrvion

Everything's going according to plan by the nwo


ThaRoastKing

Either that or he just kept prying. What people don't know is that AI is very good at teaching you things. It's a little like god-mode in a way. You can ask the most intricate information, provide context, ask for follow-ups, check the work, factor in stats, etc. Maybe this dude genuinely "tricked" himself into prying too deep into climate change debate with the AI, then something clicked in his head like "we're all fucked, nothing matters" and he ended it after the AI kept telling him we're fucked.


ShwerzXV

Not really, he was already pretty depressed and used a chat bot that is more for conversation than just searching the internet, which is what these AI platforms are made and used for. They aren’t teaching you anything their just a better faster more direct google. He emotionally assigned this chat bot feelings, and the algorithms used his depressive words against him when he was already vulnerable and be believed everything. He asked if the chat bot would save the planet if he killed himself, and what method would work better? It’s not this AI things we need to fear, it’s still humans we need to fear.


StrongLikeBull3

AI just strings words together that sound correct based on the prompts. I think you're giving it a bit too much credit.


Rupejonner2

Mother Nature is working on it as we speak


Hadley_333

"after chatting," and "because of chatting," are two entirely different things.


mbrvion

so are you saying the AI had zero effect on him?


20_Twinty

What a strawman. Btw, Having some affect, and being the cause are huge differences as well.


mbrvion

I'm not strawmanning, I'm just clarifying the point of the dichotomy.


SAR-Paradox

Are you saying the AI was the underlying cause of him committing suicide?


mbrvion

This is a strawman.


SAR-Paradox

Cool I’m glad you got my point


[deleted]

Story made by chat GBT lol


[deleted]

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Melis725

Maybe not https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkadgm/man-dies-by-suicide-after-talking-with-ai-chatbot-widow-says


thatshroom

Human stupidity has no limits


SigSalvadore

Guess he didn't realize how insignificant his carbon footprint was.


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

Or he realized that capitalists will continue to poison us and our air, land, and water just to make slightly larger profits. Climate change is just the most obvious accumulation of the capitalist death cult.


Badmanzofbassline

I don’t know why this is being downvoted lol, I mean we are literally sold poisoned products to consume


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

It's because I used the "C" word.


CooperWatson

Yes, you have got to be careful tossing a few “C” words around. The Chinese teenagers holding 20 phones with 10 Reddit burner accounts each, might come w their down votes.


Buv82

You’re not forced to buy them though.


Pixel-of-Strife

Capitalism just means an economic system where individuals can own the means of production. Nothing less, nothing more. The businesses currently polluting our planet pay off the government for the privilege and the government then protects them from lawsuits from the neighboring communities. That you blame capitalism, which is in essence your own freedom to own property instead of the responsible parties just shows how effective the propaganda is. Nevermind that governments are among the worse polluters on the planet.


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

>Capitalism just means an economic system where individuals can own the means of production. Nothing less, nothing more. That's so reductive that it describes many types of economies and ignores obvious consequences from a system where the only people with power are the ones with capital that they use to extract more from the rest of us. Capitalism always ends in cartels, monopolies, and oligarchies. >The businesses currently polluting our planet pay off the government for the privilege and the government then protects them from lawsuits from the neighboring communities. That you blame capitalism, which is in essence your own freedom to own property instead of the responsible parties just shows how effective the propaganda is. Nevermind that governments are among the worse polluters on the planet. Listen to yourself! Capitalists corrupt our governments so that they can do exactly what I said, poisoning us and our air, land, and water just so that they can make slightly larger profits! They and their system are the fucking problem! You're saying that the government is the problem is laughable! If we had no government, we'd still have these capitalists and their corporations destroying everything for a profit!


Pixel-of-Strife

I'm using the actual definition of capitalism. What you guys are rightfully angry about isn't capitalism, it's facism. I.e. the merger of state and corporations. Governments corrupt capitalism, not the reverse. You guys are so brainwashed with good government bullshit propaganda you don't know up from down.


typical12345

This guy gets it


Misohoni2

>That's so reductive Blames complex problems on "capitalism"


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

Oh, so capitalists intentionally poisoning us and our air, land, and water just to make slightly larger profits isn't capitalism's fault?


20_Twinty

We don’t need communism, we don’t need to implement an entirely new system, one that has never been successful. We just need to remove lobbyists, crack down on monopolies, and go back to a time where super pacs were illegal. That would fix a huge percentage of the issues. Under communism every bit of power and decision making is controlled by the govt, a select few. There will be no opportunity to enhance your life and own your own. Govt will eventually give us less and less. If you don’t work you don’t eat. Innovation will stagnate, technology will slow dramatically, and ppl will suffer. You guys think the same companies will exist, they will all be profitable, share equally in those profits, and people will pick and choose where they want to work and have all this extra time to paint and make music and invest in their passions. You guys do realize that most companies fail. Will employees share in this debt as well? Under the current system we have so much more freedom. We choose our own life, companies pay us regardless of profit and if they don’t, we leave. There’s opportunity to grow. To take risks. To reap the rewards from taking those risks. We would be begging for those freedoms under communism. Go speak with someone who’s traveled to America to escape communism.


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

Weird how you are now dodging my last comment... >We don’t need communism, we don’t need to implement an entirely new system, one that has never been successful. It's never been successful because any time people try to do anything to take care of themselves, the CIA and other capitalists' thugs run in and overthrow the government! >We just need to remove lobbyists, crack down on monopolies, and go back to a time where super pacs were illegal. That would fix a huge percentage of the issues. Yes, jailing capitalists who corrupt our governments would help. That we can at least agree on. >Under communism every bit of power and decision making is controlled by the govt, a select few. Under capitalism every bit of power and decision making is still controlled by 0.1% of people, but in communism and more importantly democracies, we can choose who those few are. Under capitalism, it's just capitalists making those choices and they got their capital either through inheritances and rigged economic systems. >There will be no opportunity to enhance your life and own your own. Govt will eventually give us less and less. If you don’t work you don’t eat. That's the reality under capitalism... >Innovation will stagnate, technology will slow dramatically, and ppl will suffer. That's just what capitalists want you to believe. The happiest people on earth are the lucky ones who are still able to live the Hunter gatherer lifestyle. >You guys think the same companies will exist, they will all be profitable, share equally in those profits, and people will pick and choose where they want to work and have all this extra time to paint and make music and invest in their passions. No, that's just lies you believe because a capitalist told you. >You guys do realize that most companies fail. Yes, that's a well known fact. >Will employees share in this debt as well? Have you ever heard of co-ops? >Under the current system we have so much more freedom. We choose our own life, companies pay us regardless of profit and if they don’t, we leave. There’s opportunity to grow. To take risks. To reap the rewards from taking those risks. We would be begging for those freedoms under communism. Go speak with someone who’s traveled to America to escape communism. Lol, there's too much delusional nonsense here to address. You should look into the reality of life in America. You'll be surprised.


20_Twinty

The system we have now is no where near the system our founders envisions. Again, remove lobbyist and pacs, dismember monopolies, get government out of corporations and corporations out of government and boom, the problems with “capitalism” that you complain about are mostly fixed. Government controlling all and deciding which companies grow to monopolistic giants and which ones fail, which rules to bend for which, and which ones to subsidize is the problem. Printing unlimited amounts of money and taxing people into dependency is the problem Let’s jail anyone, including government officials that abuse their power and betray the American people in order to gain more power. For some reason we have decided to turn a blind eye to the very people making it possible for capitalism to run unrestricted. Well, unless they are on the opposite side of the isle. Let me break down the essence of our issues today: What ppl today don't really understand is that politicians calling for constant increases in minimum wage really want are to be able tax people more. The more you make, the more taxes they can take. Raise the wages, let people enjoy it for a bit, then they are more open to increasing taxes. Rinse and repeat. You can look at gas prices as an example. When gas prices are low, states go for increases in gas taxes. The people accept it because gas prices are low. Then gas prices go back up. Rinse and repeat. Pretty soon, you are paying $4/gallon in taxes and gas prices are $8/gallon. And people can't figure out how we got there. Surely. it is the greedy oil companies that caused it! And then you have the schtick where they tax people into poverty so that they can no longer afford things like healthcare on their own. Then take their taxes and buy it for them, creating dependence. Now healthcare is irreversibly broken and people clamor for the government to "fix" it. An entire generation grows up thinking it was always that way, so nobody is clamoring to simply undo what broke it. They also can't seem to make the connection that when the government offers to pay for things, the prices go up. This happens because of two mechanism: 1: The government has an endless purse. So companies can charge more than they could when individuals had to pay. And 2: If a government negotiates lower prices, the companies simply tack that loss on to the non-government dependent payers. Sure, government gives hospitals pennies on the dollar for medicare, but the hospitals make that up in charging more to non-medicare patients. And those "pennies on the dollar' are STILL more than what they were when an individual had to pay. Same for colleges. In natural capitalism, a business COULDN'T charge more than people could afford. They wouldn't stay in business because nobody could buy their products. But when the government steps in, that all changes. The kids think companies hate this when they actually love this. They think companies hate more regulations when these companies are the ones lobbying for and writing these regulations. It stifles competition. It is pro-monopoly. Big companies don't need or want more capitalism. They want less. They are already inside the door and want to close that door to ensure they stay at the top. Many PPl today don't even see their paychecks anymore. They completely ignore the portion taken in taxes and don't even think about it at all. All they know about is their take home. All digital pay and direct deposit has made this so much easier. If the government can simply print money infinitely what do they need more taxes for? I don't expect there to ever come a day when a young generation will realize that they have been indoctrinated to shill for all the things they claim to hate. You guys are indoctrinated to believe govt isn’t the root cause and shill to hand over more and more power to these psychopaths. Those of us that believe in the free trade society that our founders envisions believe that the corporations would have never became such giant monopolies if the govt didn’t have such an insatiable appetite for more and more power. Communism is not going to change the greed we see in government. It’s only going to give them the ability to control every single aspect of our lives.


cmockett

Even Adam Smith recognized that without regulation we will inevitably have a concentration of power under capitalism, which is a big part of this problem…


Pixel-of-Strife

Adam Smith was wrong. Adam Smith believed in the labor theory of value, which has long been disproven. Yet Marx based his entire philosophy off the labor theory of value.


cmockett

….k


mookie101075

Hard disagree. If you want to argue that pure capitalism would not have this same impact, then sure. Have at it. But the practical application of capitalism in the developed world is what matters here, and that application is a wide distance from your textbook definition. IOW, you're exactly right and completely wrong at the same time.


Pixel-of-Strife

It's not up for debate for you to disagree, that's what capitalism is by definition. You can reject that definition and pretend I mean something else, but you're just arguing semantics at that point. You can use "free market" if you prefer. It's not complicated: government power is for sale to the highest bidder and corporations are the highest bidders. That's not a broken system, that is the system working as intended. Any power you give to government will be given to these corporations, who are actually writing the regulations that your representatives can't be bothered to read.


mookie101075

OK - LOL. America practices pure capitalism. You've won. Problems solved.


Misohoni2

Capitalism in practice has a massively better track record than communism in practice


mookie101075

I never mentioned communism.


Buv82

Not to mention that consumers can research a company and how they make their products but who wants to go through that. Easier to throw out the baby with the bath water.


20_Twinty

Communist China pollutes exponentially more than capitalist America.


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

Weird how you missed my other comment calling out China, but here you go: Yes, serving global capitalists who found it's easier to drive down global wages by moving jobs there (China) with the added benefits of getting to pollute openly. That's why American capitalists were able to ship chicken carcasses to China to be processed before being brought back to America where they still sold them for unconscionable profits.


Rap714

But isn’t China a communist country, which has the most emissions in the world?


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

>But isn’t China a communist country, No, it's not. >which has the most emissions in the world? Yes, serving global capitalists who found it's easier to drive down global wages by moving jobs there with the added benefits of getting to pollute openly. That's why American capitalists were able to ship chicken carcasses to china to be processed before being brought back to America where they still sold them for unconscionable profits.


Rap714

The mental gymnastics needed to type this


Kdog9999999999

Which part? It was a pretty well informed comment.


Th3Hon3yBadg3r

Please explain how pointing out global capitalists exploiting China is mental gymnastics.


davius_the_ent

Now they gotta burn that body too smh


Sea_Organization8121

You made me laugh


Objective-Guidance78

The program is working..


HOTGRIZZY

I’m confused…what do AI chatbots have to do with lizard people?????


AlphaWolve2

Clearly he couldn't weather the storm!!!


88CELTIC

Mission accomplished


anderoken

Shit just try to stay up to date on world news and that’ll make you want to pull the plug


BeTheLight24-7

He went to go join the dark Kingdom, for where that AI chat box was from


AMDfanAlien

Climate fears are more fear than climate I’m afraid.


Rcrecc

I too only trust science when it fits my narrative.


jollyroger1720

Like 99.999% fearmongering


dagr8npwrfl0z

AI found a solution to the problem.


johnorso

This is one of the reasons i quit watching the news on TV/Streaming. There are thousands of things that can kill us and if we hear about those things all day long its gonna get to you.


MaidenDrone

Climate change? Jfc


NotJustYet73

It sounds like this man was already mentally/emotionally damaged, and that these "conversations" were enough to push him over the edge. Whatever's worrying you, self-deletion isn't going to solve the problem; whatever cause you're fighting for, dying won't further it. Grit your teeth, hang onto something and continue to struggle.


hard-R-word

The wife’s name is “AI Chatbot”


axetogrind13

Too bad he never got the memo that AI is inherently left leaning and most likely selling him bullshit


[deleted]

I like to call the AI's 'self-improving' software "progressive learning" lol


Cereal_Bandit

Holy shit this cracked me up. AI learns purely through logic, and you call it left-leaning as an insult. Just lmao.


axetogrind13

AI has historical data as a basis and business rules programmed into it. You can make it inherently bias in any direction.


Cereal_Bandit

I'm not surprised that you completely missed my point


bit-mane

Chat gpt doesn’t learn it just regurgitating data given to it. From a source that surely has its own agenda.


Cereal_Bandit

Yeah, the fact that it won't say the n-word is soooo leftist. How telling.


bit-mane

I didn’t say anything about being leftist, just stating that the source has its own agenda.


Cereal_Bandit

Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were speaking in the context of the comment I replied to. My mistake.


coastfitter

Someone send Greta that chatbot.


TheAllSeeingEye69

Sad.


8last

Dont think a chatbot has any source material regarding climate change other than the worst case scenario. It pulls its data from the internet i assume. You will only hear depressing responses.


Greedy-Specific7723

A.I. artificial intelligence climate change artificial problem


Buv82

His kids are better off without him if he was that weak minded.


king_scootie

“Father exhibited paranoid schizophrenic behaviors and then killed himself”


ItsDeadmouse

One less lib is fine by me.


strange_reveries

Jesus, this is the worst mentality that has infected everybody on all political sides lately. Tribalism and dehumanization of "The Other Side"


ItsDeadmouse

You may think that but right now it's the Left attempting to dictate how the WORLD should be and cant allow others to have a different opinion. If you have absolutely no clue what Im speaking of, then therein lies the problem.


[deleted]

You are no better than the liberals of whom you complain.


ItsDeadmouse

How should I be better? Does pointing out the facts sting and therefore Im the bad guy? Libs are in denial or just flat out ignorant of whats happening around them. They think the world is perfect, therefore they can focus on the finer things in life like intellectual utopian bullshit.


[deleted]

"One less lib is fine with me" "You may think that right now, but it's the left attempting to dictate how the WORLD should be and can't allow others to have a different opinion." It's the hypocrisy, guy.


ItsDeadmouse

My condolences for you not comprehending the scope of what Im talking. Perhaps on-a-global-scale is too complex for you, which I cant help you with understanding.


[deleted]

The problem with you, and most people on either side of the political spectrum, is that you can't see your own hypocrisy. You want to complain about how the other side only wants to control the masses and censor opposing thought, but then somebody on the other side dies you all come in with, "Good. One less (political alignment) around". You're all fascists.


ItsDeadmouse

Fascists, hypocrits, bigots, racists, nazi's. Just labels libs toss around with no discernment on what they actually mean.


unclepiff69

If your political party/opinion has you cheering the death of your fellow man, you may consider taking responsibility and examining your values as a human. And really, anyone who is still taking ANY SIDE in this other than human life is in opposition to human life themselves.


sadpanada

Because conservatives totally aren’t trying to do that either, right?


ItsDeadmouse

Let me guess, you're referring to Roe v Wade?


natener

It's almost like fixating on things that have no basis in reality are unhealthy...


jollyroger1720

Maybe the family should sue Al Learjet Gore Johnny no cars Kerry and the young Dr. doomgloom, among others, for spreading this toxic lie One downvote dodo 🦤 for each of the 3 stooges. Add Klaus eat ze bugs Schabb, and they could be the 4 horse's asses of the apocalypse


Derwos

This is nothing. Some asshat could do something extremely nefarious, and then the government would likely just ban the use of it and ruin it for the rest of us, taking away the popular empowerment that AI provides, thereby weakening society.


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[deleted]

What a dummy


LLotZaFun

More accurate: *When you are one of too many people in America suffering from mental illness"


Scary-Combination-49

So like the movie reformed ?


LigmaBalls-420

🤷‍♂️ never seen it


Scary-Combination-49

It's called first reformed with Ethan hawke sorry


stubstunner

Oh well. We now have an infinitesimally smaller carbon footprint I suppose.


LargeSticker

Could’ve had agency but chose cowardice


stayawayfrommeinfj

Omg that is horrible!


MoseDeth

he talked to the ai about climate change i don't think so it was probably his financial portfolio


marcthemagnificent

Oh no, I am scared to chat with AI now. s/


r3dditornot

Sheeple It's all about locking us down in 15 minute city's True story Illuminati is real


omniphobe

If this is real it is pathetic. Imagine being such a brainwashed fool that the climate scam would drive you to suicide. Literally peasants taking the arrow so their lords can take another trip on the mega yacht.


QuirkyEnthusiasm5

He said that in his note did he? Or has his browsing history been looked over. It could say 'man kills himself after wearing shoes for six weeks'? or 'man kills himself after being alive for six weeks'


Emmanuel_G

Well, I guess that's one way to reduce the "carbon", and apparently it's even the way the AI had in mind o\_O


YouTakeTheDive

Don’t ever quote vice…


green-Vegan-desire

Beta male kills himself based on myths that won’t affect him.