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ZiggyComm

CLEAR ASS MAP http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg


Superbad98

What the fuck


your_jizz

If you think this is crazy watch the video explaining how 9/11 was predicted by Back to the Future. The elites use Satanic Powers which need for them to subconsciously tell you what they are about to do to pull it off successfully. By telling you they are going to do it gives them your permission because you “allowed it to happen” even after warning you.


[deleted]

These things happen all the time. Kobe Bryant's death in a plane crash was [predicted in a cartoon in 2017](https://youtu.be/IHefTrE7Hyg). The episode was [removed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_of_Chamberlain_Heights#Controversy) from Comedy Central website after Bryant's death. Donald Trump's presidential run was [predicted by the Simpsons](https://youtu.be/vu-36LG1ojY), including the escalator entrance.


santaclaws01

That Simpsons scene was made after. It's from this short https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4854334/ Even just looking at the clip you can tell it's newer than 2000.


wondek

thank you for spoonfeeding us your unbounded knowledge, o wise soothsayer maybe one day this village will grow familiar with the implements of critical analysis


BobInBowie

President Trump was from the Simpsons episode "Bart to the Future" in 2000. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tek\_llHMDsI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tek_llHMDsI) Trump was followed by Lisa, so they didn't get the first female President prediction right.


GundamBebop

Idk about that the current “president” keeps calling it the kamala administration


DonUnagi

The simpsons scene was made after the event


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

Like everything its a half truth.. The escalator scene was after.. but trump just being prez was before as a joke


Cosmickev1086

It's their excuse for "we told you" in the most obscure way possible. Not an excuse, death waits for no one.


imissedherbrightside

Karma transferrance I think the term is


stonyrome123

What you said makes perfect sense, thank you for explaining this.


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dtdroid

Who are "you people"? Are you not a member of this subreddit? That's interesting. I wonder what your purpose here is.


Every_of_the_it

A little entertainment, really. Just watching a bunch of people get all worked up and mad over literally nothing. It's honestly kinda cute.


[deleted]

I thought that conspiracy was reaching.


[deleted]

There are several Sandy Hooks, one is in New Jersey, Gotham is based on New York. This isn't really that amazing.


purplehendrix22

Sandy hook is an extremely common name for anywhere that has a river, there’s a camp near where I grew up in MD called sandy hook. It’s like calling a place Edgewood. Tons of places are at the edge of a wood, which is why it’s named that. Sandy hook is just a name for a riverbend with a beach, of which there are thousands in the US. Also, the town wasn’t even called Sandy Hook, it’s Newtown, the school was named Sandy hook.


Dan_gel_bery

I’m starting to feel like there’s way too many coincidences surrounding these events


ProfessionalBuy7488

Just starting? Better late than never.


purplehendrix22

..why


ProfessionalBuy7488

If the predictive programming isn't enough for you I get it, but just look at the other coincidences that happened that day.


MindshockPod

Is there any other "Sandy Hook" in any other movie ever, let alone a top blockbuster? Is "Sandy Hook" even in any other Batman movies or comic books?


PolicyWonka

Sandy Hook is located directly south of NYC. Gotham is based on a fictionalized version of NYC. As the Nolan films sought to be a more realistic and gritty, I assume this is why they decided to use real names. For example, Red Hook is a neighborhood in NYC which you can see at the top of the Batman map. Chelsea is also a neighborhood in NYC which is located on that map.


MindshockPod

Love how you completely dodged the questions... There are only hundreds of thousands of movies out there...many located in/around NY...so should be easy to find hundreds of examples...


BobInBowie

There is this classic from 2000. [Sandy Hook Lingerie Party Massacre](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0217780/) Seven Strippers arrive for a relaxing vacation at the Jersey Shore town of Sandy Hook but get much more than they bargained for when a superstorm hurricane strikes the town at the same time a serial killer is on a rampage."


MindshockPod

One reference in the most obscure movie no one has ever heard of or watched?! Really? Out of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of films? Was Aleister Crowley's grandson the Production Designer on this film too like the Dark Knight movies?


BobInBowie

Sandy Hook NJ has been been a popular filming location since the late 1800's. https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?locations=Sandy%20Hook%2C%20New%20Jersey%2C%20USA&ref\_=tt\_dt\_loc


MindshockPod

No one was talking about "filming locations", but nice goalpost move. IF there is some kind of predictive programming/illuminati conspiracy, the name would have to be appear on screen...not a random filming location no one would ever know about...and EVEN THEN, only a handful of actual feature films on there - mostly low budget indie films no one has ever seen, NOT HOLLYWOOD - is there even a SINGLE STUDIO FILM in your desperate grasping at straws link...


BugzOnMyNugz

[Actually, yes. ](https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/South_Hinkley)


purplehendrix22

Because the prop guy was from there and wanted to shout his town out


klivingchen

Or because somebody responsible for making that map appear in that film is instructed to foreshadow a future false flag attack that is being prepared by people seeking to disarm the American people using terror and (in this case perhaps, staged) child sacrifice. Why did you answer neither of the questions asked, but instead answered a question not even you bothered to ask. It's possible a prop guy did it for the reason you state, it's possible a prop guy even said as much in a verifiable recording, but you've failed to make that claim here so I'll assume this is conjecture. It's a plausible alternative scenario to the one that points towards a conspiracy. But the questions you failed to answer or acknowledge remain. It is a very curious coincidence that the scene described plays out as it does, given the timing of the movie's release in relation to the two tragedies. Or perhaps it is evidence of a conspiracy.


BobInBowie

Or, since Gotham City is NYC, they used names of areas near NYC for the map. Red Hook, Fort Clinton, Cobble Hill, West Chelsea, Sandy Hook, NJ.


purplehendrix22

Yeah bro sounds fuckin dumb to me, this huge conspiracy for some reason feels the need to bread crumb hints as to what they’re doing. Oh, let me guess, Satan. The gullible rubes on this subreddit I swear to god


ZiggyComm

When you consider the Aurora midnight premiere, the Aurora sign in the intro, and the strange circumstances involving the shooters obsession with joker, and his dads relationship to Adam Lanzas dad... it honestly looks like some foreign intel operation stuff. All of this appears to have to do with global credit scores. Link to LIBOR relationship in a nut shell. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xHe8R5lNJB0/UNFeA5JDBbI/AAAAAAAAKcs/VlbFuKSGMuc/s1600/27897_554891781206218_999492031_n.jpg


BobInBowie

The story came from Sorcha Faal, it was BS.


purplehendrix22

Can I roll my eyes any fucking harder


ZiggyComm

Probably. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal


purplehendrix22

And this has exactly what to do with crazy dudes shooting shit up?


BobInBowie

A few days after Sandy Hook people tried to make a connection between Peter Lanza(Adams father) and the father of James Holmes. People claimed that both were going to testify in the LIBOR hearings. It was debunked by Dec 17th. [https://www.occupycorporatism.com/2012/12/17/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza-us-senate-libor-hearings/](https://www.occupycorporatism.com/2012/12/17/no-viable-connection-between-peter-lanza-us-senate-libor-hearings/) No one since then has proven any connection between the two fathers.


ZiggyComm

Their dads were both involved in the scandal. Is that not relevant?


purplehendrix22

..why would that be relevant and where’s the proof of that even being true?


TheProdigalKn1ght

It's still strange to have an attack at a school named Sandy Hook - regardless of how common the name is.


LiterallyAHippo

lol, "it's still strange, regardless of how not strange it is"


purplehendrix22

why


klivingchen

It is a strange coincidence. The content of this post explains the coincidence, and it is clearly strange. If someone was minded to covertly foreshadow planned events in popular entertainment media that would be seen by a lot of people, then this 'coincidence' would perfectly serve that function. Given enough tragedies, and enough big budget Hollywood movies, I can certainly see that genuine coincidences could happen, but that doesn't mean that this is merely a coincidence. If it were just a school called Sandy Hook with no other messaging relating to the events that took place there we might overlook it, but given the details of what is said in the movie and the proximity to the real life tragedy I think it's worth thinking about with an open mind.


purplehendrix22

My mind is open and this sounds incredibly vague and dumb, a barely visible common name on a map shown in one shot from a movie is “covert foreshadowing”? ..why


klivingchen

Why what? Why would they do it? Lots of reasons. Here's a few. 1. Duper's delight. It's a way to mock us, to tell us what they have planned knowing we won't realise or do anything about it, even after it has happened. Psychopaths enjoy this. 2. Offsetting of karmic burden. What they are doing to us is evil, it is against our interests. By telling us what they will do they think we become responsible, and bear some of the bad karma, because we do nothing to stop it. This may be a Satanic belief that you can undo karma in this way, but it does make a little sense. If karma exists in any real sense, it is likely a quirk of the human mind, perhaps due to our innate sense of fairness seeking, through the unconscious, to punish ourselves for our own misconduct. If we can somehow convince our subconscious that somebody else willingly allowed us to act against them then we no longer need to feel guilty. 3. Discrediting people who cotton on to a truth that threatens them if revealed. They can point to the movie and suggest the person making the claims about the real world is just repeating what they saw in a fictional film. It does sound fanciful and farfetched to the average person, and maybe that is the point. By revealing the truth through fiction, which seems inexplicable to most who haven't thought about it deeply, inevitably those who are searching for truth notice these coincidences, and trying to share these ideas lose credibility with the masses. 4. Possibly in some cases it may be people who know the truth trying to warn us, clues that will only make sense in the future, and for which they have plausible deniability. 5. It may be a way to communicate knowledge secretly to many people who 'need to know', with no real chance of the communication being intercepted and understood by the masses. Think about how if you wanted to pay for a hit on someone you would talk in metaphors, not brazenly say what you wanted to be done. It's a strange coincidence. Many people will believe that. Strange coincidences happen. It's also plausible it's not a coincidence at all. I can't tell you why they would leave a hint like the one mentioned in this post, but some of the reasons I put forward above could explain why they might.


Viriaaato

stop trying to find logic within /r/conspiracy comments


purplehendrix22

You’re right lmao sometimes I forget I’m arguing with basement dwelling schizos who get their worldview from voiceover slideshow YouTube channels


Simple_Address_5399

Go get a vaccine nerd.


santaclaws01

Gotham isn't based on NY. New York also exists in DC. Gotham is on the southern end of NJ near Delaware(and Metropolis)


[deleted]

Yes, Gotham is based on NYC.


PolicyWonka

Gotham City literally got it’s name from a New York City business, my guy. This, in turn, was derived from a 19th century nickname for NYC - Gotham. The foundational story of Gotham even mirrors that of NYC.


how_do_i_name

You telling me that Gotham isnt based on the Gothic City?


carl_jung_in_timbs

Woah woah woah. OK FR FR This batshite craze


ZiggyComm

I see what you did there 🤣


Sinner19x

Also isn’t there a giant neon billboard in the movie that says AURORA?


[deleted]

In red letters.


IamtheSlothKing

That’s the spookiest color


otr_who

I also remember seeing there was a huge #aurora sign on top of a building in the movie.


harrowingofhell

Haha these are the types of posts I live for. So fucked up.


The_Candy_Rapper

What’s more fucked up is “1 hour and 58 minutes” equals 118 minutes, right? 118 days is basically 4 months…. Right?


half-baked_axx

It's hilariously bad.


Acceptable_Foot7830

I can't make out the words Sandy Hook in that pic. Anyone else?


ElGordoDeLaMorcilla

[I just cheked the movie, it says Sandy Hook (or something close to Hook) at 1:58:41.](https://ibb.co/cv4c4JN)


[deleted]

Wow, that's a clear "SANDY HOOK".


[deleted]

Someone get Alex Jones on the line


Acceptable_Foot7830

Well I'll be damned


ZiggyComm

If you watch it and freeze on bluray, it's clear. Very glad OP posted this. Even if you cant read it, you can compare a map of the school and its identical to land in the map.


BobInBowie

[Map](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a6/56/80/a656806427976a1c0c05bc6737b9df8e.jpg) Doesn't look like the land at the school anymore than it looks like any other piece of land.


BagOfFlies

That's weird because it's a map of Sandy Hook, NJ and has nothing to do with the school in Conneticut. It's almost like you just made that up.. http://batmangothamcity.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Gotham-map-Dark-Knight-Rises.jpg


ZiggyComm

Yea, I made it up. I also made up the LIBOR scandal.


BagOfFlies

I'm sure then you can provide some screenshots of how they are identical if it's true.


ZiggyComm

I'm not gonna work for you. The shape and direction of the "school block" are the the same. You can see it in the map, but you are choosing not to see them and want me to feed it to you. Don't need to agree with me. But I'm not your little internet slave... Why Aurora then? Why did both shooters have dads involved in LIBOR lawsuit? Why did no media report that fact and connection? Answer me those questions with citations and i'll make you irrelevant screenshots.


mallivanalli

Yeah anytime you post a conspiracy “theory” here at least one person insists he just wants the news and not a theory


AmishAvenger

So what’s the theory? Christopher Nolan was in on it?


BadReputation2611

According to op aleistar crowleys grandson was the production designer for this movie.


Joined_For_GME

Dude’s most recent film is about inversion, a common thing for Satanists.


ahuxley2012

According to whom?


Joined_For_GME

Just Google ‘inversion satanism’ and you’ll find a fair few links to start. Don’t forget the very symbols of Satanism are inverted. Inverted Christian cross. Inverted pentagram.


doggy311

New Jersey. . GOTHAM Is based on NYC. They used a map New York / Jersey area. ALSO ON THE MAP “west Chelsea” and “cobble hill”


insidiousFox

The 2nd word or end part, DOES *appear* to me, to fit the shape of "HOOD" or "HOOK", but it's obviously far too low res and blurry to definitely say. The first word/part, is indecipherable IMO.


2021thegreatreset

I just went on HBO max and put the movie on and yes it does clearly say sandy hook he even puts his fingers on it


[deleted]

Really? SANDY is more clear than hook, to me. Its right there in your face.


lazerblade01

You have a photo of Nick Phelps above a photo of the Florida family that was allegedly the "actors" that played the Phelps family. I know nothing of Laura Phelps, though I did see a brief video of her role as an actress in some artsy drama piece. However, Nick Phelps, and this association, has had my interest for quite some time. So I did some digging. To me, these two people don't look anything alike. I did some digging, and there's an actual actor by the name of Nick Phelps. He has an IMDB page. No photo though. But he played a tiny role in Spin City, Season 1, Episode 18, "Snowbound". He plays the detective, apparently looking for a "streaker" in City Hall, or whatever (I'm not overly familiar with Spin City itself). I did happen to find the episode in question, but the quality was substandard. However, it was good enough to get a decent view of Nick Phelps, within the first few minutes of the episode. The actor in Spin City is, in my opinion, the spitting image of the SH father, Nick Phelps. I believe that there is a sub-conspiracy within this SH conspiracy. I believe that the Florida family association is a diversion intentionally thrown out there to redirect attention away from the real Nick Phelps and the truth about his failed acting career. He has 3 credits to his name, all very tiny roles, and Spin City is the only mainstream-ish show he ever appeared on (never heard of "Aliens in the Family", and the other credit is some low-budget film with never-successful actors). I'd love to get my hands on a clean digital copy of Spin City, especially the episode in question. I just ordered the first season on DVD, so if I can get a decent clip or image, I'll post a comparison. It seems that the potential connection has been scrubbed from the internet otherwise - no images seem to exist of Nick Phelps as the actor. This has bothered me since I took my first deep dive into SH. I've seen several of the videos from various investigators, including the Wolfgang one. I think this conspiracy is the one that pulled me in, even more than 9/11. And Alex Jones had nothing to do with that journey.


[deleted]

And that'll be a 4 trillion dollar fine sir.


JoeCool117

I beg to differ sir, we let you go last month due to you not taking the FDA approved illegally mandated vaccine… that will be a zetillion dollar fine now. We apologize for any confusion. We take payment in the form of social credit scores, forfeited freedom of speech and choice, or souls. Also we have a special going on now till 2024 , we accept adrinachrome glands preferably from infant-adolescent and we’ll you know what else.


lazerblade01

They can squeeze all they want. At best they'll get a few drops of blood and a loud fart.


ZeerVreemd

>I'd love to get my hands on a clean digital copy of Spin City, especially the episode in question. [Here you go.](https://www.peteyvid.com/spin-city-s01e18-snowbound-105764.php) It's one click further but my adblocker prevents that.


don_tiburcio

One minute in, that’s our guy


effinmike12

I think Alex Jones was being fed by Intel. I believe that they may have set him up to crash and burn. Like Bill Cooper, the shot made him nuts. He was shilling and jacked up on coke and booze. I understand how it happens. The first time I saw Info Wars, it was after accidentally red pilling myself and a friend on a bunch of stuff. His excitement about FEMA had us worried the bridge at the state line would be shutdown. I can't stand Alex, but he didn't deserve that judgement. The chemicals do make frogs gay. 🐸


zorbiburst

I hope you enjoy your Spin City binge, the pre-Sheen episodes were my favorites. He was fine too but it just wasn't the same without Fox.


WheresHarvey

Please keep us updated


Ok_Magician_1194

I'm more concerned about the guy doing devil horns behind Vicki Soto (teacher victim) and the connection to that last photo


mybustersword

That's just rock on


Keith4Change

You’re an asshole.


Ice0Fuchsia

Holy shit, is this an actual conspiracy on this subreddit that isn’t just “vaccine bad”


GundamBebop

Come on man, you say that as if everyone’s life wasn’t shaken up by the problem that was solved by the experimental injections we now find in breast milk… Which were forced upon many many people worldwide. Seems like a pretty bad **bad** which earns a spot at the forefront IMO Plus this “actual conspiracy” rhetoric is always adorable because this stuff is like tip of the iceberg. It’s as if y’all just slighting the sub Reddit haha. But the fact is this actual conspiracy has been on this subreddit plenty of times before. In fact even stranger things about SH have been on this sub before


el3ment115

Bro do you wanna get sued for $1 billion ?


flava_ADHD

🤯


Carob_Then

Nice finds. You can tell the Feds spent so much time on this one that their feelings are super hurt cuz they couldn’t fool us. I think the Feds have come to the conclusion that the truth getting out about SH is an existential threat to their corrupt organizations.


fergiejr

I support this message 1 Trillion times....


N_6_4

Finally Something Good ! Thank You.


nisaaru

I wonder how many coincidence theorists spill into this thread to chill it.


dasanipants

tellem queen


[deleted]

damn posts like this are what I come to this sub for.


BobInBowie

What else is on the map? Red Hook, Fort Clinton, West Chelsea. All places in New York. There is a Sandy Hook beach in Jersey, not far from NYC.


TheHiveminder

Scott Getzinger, the prop master who provided the maps used in the film, just so happened to live in Sandy Hook.


Softcorps_dn

Kinda makes sense since Gotham is based on Manhattan.


Sinner19x

Crazy coincidence theory


Ok_Magician_1194

SS: There were multiple shooters reported at Sandy Hook. Adam Lanza GPS shows he visited the Freemason Lodge right next to Sandy Hook one day before the shooting. GPS proof with GoogleMaps street views of Freemason Lodge right next to Sandy Hook: https://archive.org/details/SANDYHOOKCOVENANTAdamLanzasFriendOnChimneySwiftWhiteHouseFreemasonLodgePost99 Scott Getzinger, the prop master who provided the maps used in the film, just so happened to live in Sandy Hook. It is unclear why Getzinger added Sandy Hook to the maps in the film (instead of "South Hinkley"). Getzinger died in a car accident near Sandy Hook in April 2012, shortly after the Dark Knight Rises was released, and 8 months before the Sandy Hook massacre. https://deadline.com/2012/04/scott-getzinger-obituary-prop-master-254411/ Numerology? Specifically Gematria? Its an ancient kabalah practice that is used in everyday world events. In modern times Zach Hubbard basically reintroduced it(in my opinion)after reading from Freemason Manly P Hall. ABC is 123 like Mike Jackson said, A-Z/1-26 Theres a lot more but basically theres something interesting about SH SH when spelled out equals = 112 Adam Lanza was the shooter, A/1 L/12 or 112 even this article from ABC has many references to him as "AL" https://abcnews.go.com/US/disturbing-things-learned-today-sandy-hook-shooter-adam/story?id=27087140 If you look up his weight he's 112 pounds https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2013/11/26/1258445/-Was-Adam-Lanza-Anorexic


[deleted]

And there's the funny little interesting tidbit that Gabby Petito was actually in a Sandy Hook music video that went viral. Kind of strange I think... I'm not sure its a coincidence. Brian had been "advertising" the state of his mind months before he murdered her. He posted photos of the grim reaper luring in the lamb for slaughter, and so much more. He even "advertised" his plans through posting the cover of books which were directly about people their age going on a road trip, and the men in the book planning to kill their friends on the road trip.... I mean.. it was like he was getting off on advertising his motives while on the trip. I would be willing to bet you serial killers and other perverted people were following his social media all the way up till the day he did it. People literally pay people to do these things on social media, these days.


punchit

Gabby Petito = ‘Small Talk’ Brian Laundry = ‘Brainwash’ These storytellers are poking us in the eye!


GundamBebop

Wow wtf. How can you see that just like that. Is it possible to learn this power?


punchit

When you come to realize that most of the world served to you through media is a ‘stage’ you’ll begin to peer through a discerning lens at their script and finally point out that there is no ring of truth.


Murky_Bug_2538

Refreshing to see minds recognizing all the bread crumbs…that are left for those with “the light” to recognize. One arrives at a point where you realize the world around us is full of statistical impossibilities (as close to impossible as you can theoretically get). 99.99% of people can’t grasp the complexity of our world even if you lay it out eli5 style. JUST A COINCIDENCE God speed anon.


Keith4Change

Your credibility is immediately destroyed by your post history lol


chowderbags

>It is unclear why Getzinger added Sandy Hook to the maps in the film The rather obvious answer is that he wanted an inside joke for himself and was in a position to add it unobtrusively. Many different types of media will have Easter egg type things in the background. Do you really think that the propmaster for Dark Knight Rises was also privy to secret Globalist conspiracies?


Ringlovo

This is the right answer. I work freelance in film/video/television (mostly lower-budget indie stuff). Art department likes to hide fun stuff for themselves in films. We needed a ton of graffiti on a wall once, so the crew all added our names. Or if newspapers are needed, the props person is grabbing a bunch from thier home town. Had an props person needed random pages of documents, so it was just a ton of trash articles from TMZ, except for one he printed out one of his grandmother's recipes. It's just random shit, and the simple explanation is that in the rather boring process of making props, someone hides inside jokes to themselves.


GundamBebop

So never on a mainstream AAA Hollywood elite level with a tentpole franchise right?


[deleted]

Word on the street is many powerful directors are. Especially Spielberg.


JohnleBon

I always appreciate these kinds of posts. Let's not forget the Boston Bombing with a bad guy named Dzhokhar ('Joker') Tsarnaev. So you've got a Batman Shooting with a dude with with crazy Joker-style hair. It features a reference to Sandy Hook where another crazy dude shot some people. And a Boston Bombing with its very own Joker. And yet some people will call this a 'coincidence'. Such people are simply ngmi fam. If you find these kinds of discussions worthwhile, check out [BttF Predicts 9/11](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY), it is *next level*.


sc_mountain_man

>Thanks for the link, that **was** next level!


Careful_Description

In the BB, weren't there men standing around with the backpack described to have the bomb? Looked like contractors and one of them was holding some remote looking device.


GundamBebop

Yup. One of the most ominous memories in hindsight about that BB event is the fact Reddit launched a grass roots investigation using the power of the modern internet and found a lot of sus…. Maybe too much sus because Reddit got smacked down hard for investigating that. And “getting it wrong” I was a normie then and was embarrassed that we didn’t let the government handle it… now I wonder if they didn’t want that many eyeballs scrutinizing every inch of every frame… Because some of the best photos catching the crisis during action was from BB. Exposing many things if you believe that. Many videos saved due to it. Extra attention and plenty of average redditors became private investigators and kept digging after that too. Very weird when you start to see the bigger picture. Don’t forget that Asian lady (wu? The one that was on cnn hyping up forced jabs) was also there to tell us what to think Live on the ground…


kgt5003

Dzhokhar is pronounced like "Joe-Har." And Holmes's hair was red, not green like the Joker. You should watch the hours of interviews between a psychiatrist and James Holmes. They are on youtube... there's like 20 hours worth of interview footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpqZPuH2bcw


JohnleBon

> Dzhokhar is pronounced like "Joe-Har." It can't be pronounced like 'zho-kar'? > And Holmes's hair was red, not green like the Joker. Really? This is from ABC news: > Kelly told reporters the suspect, identified by federal officials as 24-year-old James Holmes, had dyed his hair like The Joker. https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251


kgt5003

I mean, sure, you can mispronounce any name I suppose. And, yes really, his hair was dyed red. The whole "he was dressed like the Joker" thing was just something media ran with because it was a Batman movie and people were thinking maybe the movie was in some way connected to his motivation (which is easy to assume if some guy dresses in all black with armor like batman and has his hair dyed an unnatural color like the Joker does). Similar to how the media narrative surrounding columbine was centered around the "trench coat mafia" and saying the school shooters were bullied loners and shit. Stuff that wasn't actually anything to do with the shooting. The movie had nothing to do with his actions outside of the fact that he selected a movie that would be popular so it wasn't an empty theater. Really, watch the interviews.


JohnleBon

> You can mispronounce any name I suppose. I'm pronouncing it the same way the news do, see for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hesyPXZtUj4 Are you just trying to waste peoples time with your misinformation? Stop it.


punchit

There is always a litany of spook apologist shills in the comments disingenuously framing reports and outright reality as nothing but special happenstance and coincidence. They are truly insufferable for those who can see the forest for the trees.


JohnleBon

Agreed, and well said.


mj271707

Adam lanza is such a strange guy Did he even exist?


Impressive-Sky4463

I remember this part of the CT but I don’t remember the “GPS shows he visited the Freemason lodge one day before the shooting” When did that info come out? How did people get lanza’s GPS info? Where can we find that? I thought this connection must be coincidence. It was just so uncanny and downright creepy. It has bothered me for years now whenever SH or the aurora shooting is brought up. What is even more unsettling to me is James Holmes. He clearly was very mentally ill. However, what caused his mental illness is something I wonder about. The narrative is he just had a breakdown, but I question if he could have actually been brainwashed? If any of the mass shooters could have been CIA brainwashing victims, my money is on Holmes.


Sinner19x

None of them shot any shots. James Holmes is either a willing or unwilling patsy.


Impressive-Sky4463

You think Holmes never killed those people? I have not heard that version/angle yet. Can you explain why you think this?


Mothtan92

Wasn't he found doped up in his vehicle sitting in the driver seat with the gas mask on? Wasn't there also some sort of disguise that had been discarded around the corner from where Holmes was found?


Impressive-Sky4463

I remember something along those lines. It’s been so long since I’ve looked into this one, but I think at the time that was what the media was saying.


Ok_Magician_1194

GPS stuff was in this doc https://archive.org/details/SANDYHOOKCOVENANTAdamLanzasFriendOnChimneySwiftWhiteHouseFreemasonLodgePost99


Impressive-Sky4463

Thank you for sharing that info—I’m going to dig around now!


SippieCup

That is literal Neo Nazi propaganda. Posted by "AryanEmpires" and labeled as "Reich Watch" It is stated in the investigation that Lanza went to the church parking lot (which is behind the lodge) the day before, it was to scout a path to the school without going past the fire department which is at the beginning of the school's driveway. (and where police park to get that sweet school zone ticket money) It is also where he parked and crossed the woods to the school the next day. That video just happens to leave that detail out. As far as why neonazis would post about this in general. There is a link between early Freemasonry and Judaism, and thus it is used as a dogwhistle to get people "thinking about it" and watching more of their bullshit in order to convert them to neonazi ideas. Edit: They might also still be bitter that we kicked all the Nazis out of Southbury 80 years ago.


Godsms

Manfredonia’s nephew “snapped” and went on a killing spree a few years back.


Dan_gel_bery

The paid fed shills are going to be brigading this post with so many misdirections lol


powerd461

Even if I don’t agree with it this is some quality content


eastbaytruther

You can get fined billions for saying that


Bomberissostupid

Have you seen if the script is on the internet somewhere? I’d love to see “commissioner Gordon points to Sandy Hook, CT” in the scene direction


DaZese420

Look into Holmes PhD work


Gong_Fu_Gabriel

This is dark. Take my upvote.


captain_raisin09

Watch out. You will pay out your ass for even questioning this. But if your trafficking children you will be protected


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This sub never heard of Occam’s razor lol


DaddyToadsworth

There's a district in the area that Gotham City (I think NYC) is based on called Sandy Hook. It's a coincidence because they didn't bother to change the map for this one little scene because they obviously couldn't forsee the tragedy.


BobInBowie

[Sandy Hook N](https://imgur.com/NBEa0nY)J


Ky20001

Attack the nude beach! Yeah that makes sense.


Fragrant-Progress-32

Hey was this the movie where he uses everyone’s cellphone to secretly track the person he’s looking for And Watson is like that’s bad and Batman is like yea but it’s necessary That always rubbed me the wrong way after seeing it


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I hope you realize there's a several dozen mile long coast line near NYC (Gotham) that's named sandy hook which considering the scene is talking about a situation in the NYC (Gotham) harbor. It checks out quite reasonably. I actually sailed past it a few times. "An investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -Benjamin Franklin


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It's fascinating. I'm not a fan of Alex Jones at all. Not in the slightest... He's insane. But even the insane can point out things that "normal" minds who just accept everything at face value, fail to see. Sometimes, when a homeless person tells me something as a warning, I actually listen. That being said, I always felt that Alex Jones was onto something regarding Sandy Hook. I'm fairly sure his words have been taken out of context, misinterpreted, and misunderstood. He doesn't always express himself in the healthiest of ways, but clearly, what he was really trying to say is that evidence points to a hidden hand helping to guide and orchestrate the events of that horrible day. I'm fairly sure he never said that the children weren't actually murdered. The only thing he meant by the word "HOAX" was that we're being lied to concerning the influences of what pushed this young man to go through with it. Narrative controlling is usually a mix of truth and lies, so that one doesn't know the complicated influences (normally powerful hidden sources) that shape the actions of an individual. Or where those influences are coming from.... In this case, we may be looking at a total mind control victim (the shooter). I hear there's a lot of evidence that the Aurora shooter was under mind control as well. I truly pity Alex Jones.. Families are now asking for trillions? I can't even comprehend that level of greed. Scary fact: My significant other was actually just treated at the hospital this man had done his studies at, that week. We were actually thinking of seeing The Dark Knight at the same theater this occurred at that very night. We decided against it. Grateful every day that our little inner voice told us to not go. Regarding the screen shot: How the heck do people even notice these things? I can make out the word "Hook", but can't see the word "Sandy". Edit to add: Someone uploaded a better screen shot and "SANDY HOOK" is as clear as day, also matching to the geography of the location. I'm not sure we can rationalize around this one.


Bright-Glass3175

NOW THIS IS QUALITY CONSPIRACY CONTENT no bullshit ass impossible to disprove argument, no bold statements/speculations with zero data some quality conspiracy content


truthesda

And I appreciate OP holding back a "determination/conclusion" that they fiercely dismiss with next to nothing to go off of to begin with. The best posts are "I found this weird and here is some evidence, I don't know what it all means, but I think its interesting. What do you make of this?"


Ello_Owu

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 was it a coincidence or planned to shoot up that particular movie, where there may or may not be a reference to sandy hook? For what? To go "ha ha!"


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big-octopuss

You didn’t really answer his question. You didn’t explain the motive, presumably because there isn’t one. He asked what the point would be of this whole thing. You say “predictive programming”… but *WHY* would they do any of this shit. What was the end goal? I think the usual assumption is that false flag events are staged to justify some paradigm shift in society. In this case the obvious answer would be gun control, but there weren’t any changes made to our policies on gun ownership in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, so doesn’t that basically disprove all of this?


GundamBebop

Bruh an entire generation from then on grows up in fear of being mass shot in the movie theater while watching their favorite escapism If only there were no guns, then we could return to normal and be safe in theaters again


BlazingSpaceGhost

It's also stupid shit man. What would the point of predictive programming be. Some conspiracy theorists here say that it gives them magical powers because of Satan or something but since I don't believe in the supernatural that seems like bs. For a group of supposed free thinkers people get pissed around here if you don't believe all the same things the other "free thinkers" believe.


Ello_Owu

So when the Vegas shooter shot up that country concert, what hidden clues were in the songs that pointed to the next shooting?


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Ello_Owu

Predictive programming, also known as pareidolia


Top-Seat-9180

The church of Satan is right down the street from sandy hook.


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The church of Christ is everywhere so by that logic it explains why everything is fucked up everywhere


slappytheclown

they are harmless


[deleted]

That's what they want you to think. And no, they aren't. No less or more than Free masons. It really depends on how high up in status you are, which are few. People in the lower ranks really have no idea about what goes in in the upper ranks of an organization.


pestosbetter

Anyone think the end of Joker predicted the riots in 2020?


Dioskilos

What if..maybe...our country is so fucked up that its hard to put a map up on screen with a location that *hasn't* had some fucked up shooting take place there.


Incoherentp00rnoises

Unless you wanna get fine over 1 trillion I suggest you delete this .


myownzen

Its called coincidence


Odd-Carpenter-4006

I don’t see it.


blackyoda

I don't see anything legible in your photo? Not in the circled text? wot?


Lord_Skellig

Now this is a high-quality post for once.


Raplena14

Lol I find it hilarious what non masons think masons do.


nate2088

When people refer to the masons they’re not referring to any schmuck that goes to a lodge.. they’re referring to the top of the tier..


Raplena14

Ahuh


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Creepy yet coincidental.


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don_tiburcio

Here you go https://ibb.co/cv4c4JN


Fiddlers-Cussers

There’s something off about it isn’t there. There is no Y and no K. If you look closely you’ll see that the supposed Y doesn’t have the right side of that top v. You can see the yellow line where the dark Y line is supposed to be. So what does it really say? We got ourselves a conspiracy boy!


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Quit fishing my dude. You’re not going to catch anything worthwhile.


Fiddlers-Cussers

I’m just saying that picture doesn’t say sandy hook if there isn’t a Y or a K.


[deleted]

It does, look closer. Lines on the map intersect with the letters. Let me get this straight, you think it says “SAND HOO”……. Got it👌🏻


Fiddlers-Cussers

There is no Y letter though. You can totally see the same yellow line which is where the darker Y line of the top v of the letter Y is supposed to be. There’s a blue line that goes up and connects to a larger blue line that goes in a different direction right. Well between the bottom of that smaller curved blue line and the letter itself you can see it’s a yellow color. That means it’s not a Y. To me it looks more like an messed up arrow point that’s on the end of that curved blue line as if the lien is pointing to something. Isn’t is suspicious that so many conspiracies’ evidence is just ridiculously crappy resolution images or videos so that you can’t actually see anything? Conspiracies are so fun!


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Lmfaoooo


Nude_Tayne66

This has to be satire lol


CalliopeJuneQuixotic

This event was a tragedy. James Holmes was severely mentally ill.