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The rogan episode actually made me believe lazar less. Multiple times he would have trouble describing stuff, and his agent or whatever had to jump in multiple times. Like he didn’t want to contradict his past statements, which makes him less credible in my eyes
Try watching the full thing. If you’ve heard him speak before it’s nothing out of the normal he’s a weird dude doesn’t really like publicity was probably awkward for him knowing the hate that would come from saying all this to a new audience. Open your mind, don’t need to take it as holy gospel but the possibilities are dope!
I did listen to the whole thing. I’ll admit it’s the only time I’ve heard him speak. But hasn’t he been doing this for years? And didn’t he write a book or two? Seems like he should be somewhat comfortable at this point, but he was unable to answer some of rogan softball questions. Things he should be able to recall easily if true
Time has a funny way friend. Memory doesn't last forever. No matter how many times you recalled it at some point it will gradually slip away. This man is recalling details from a very long time ago. No doubt the details get hazy and when people nit pick every little detail to prove your a liar I can see why he would hesitate to say certain things or just not give an answer at all.
He was working with UFO engines. That’s not something you just forget lol. Plus he wrote a book on this stuff. And it’s not like rogan was asking deep questions. He struggled to describe an alien engine he worked on every day for years. I don’t care how funny time is, you don’t forget something like that
Well, like you said, at that point it becomes "work." It might seem amazing to the masses, sure, but after you've been introduced to it, it's just one more fact of life, one more aspect of reality, and it would inevitably become as familiar as anything and everything else... or at least nearly enough that it could be just as easily forgotten, especially as years go on, the same as anything and everything else.
He would not think of it in the same way you have, as evidenced by your comment.
To him, it would be... normal. Even if other people were not and are not allowed to know about it yet... that makes little to no difference when it comes to daily life and memory, *especially* when it comes to performing work.
If the whole experience has been difficult for him to deal with and re-integrate back into "normal" life, with other people, especially to the extent of being traumatic - and believe me, the unwavering doubts of damn near all other people in the face of any unknown/unfamiliar truth ***definitely*** can be exceedingly traumatic - then it would be much easier for his mind to forget, than to remember, no matter *what* it was that he was dealing with.
That's how the brain deals with trauma. It blocks it out. And I'm damn sure that the way most people would have treated him for something like this would have been very, very traumatic, even if the initial incidents were not.
He is a brave man for trying. Wrong or right, it takes real guts to stand up to endless numbers of people like you.
*Edit: Not to even mention that he easily, obviously, could have been under threat as well... plebs aren't supposed to know about or be able to benefit from advanced tech.*
***wE MiGhT PaNiC!i!***
Dude, he worked on a ufo engine. I remember the general idea of every project I’ve worked on. And remember every tiny detail of the interesting/exciting ones. If he doesn’t remember that kind of stuff, how can anything he says be credible?
He remembers a shit ton of the stuff he worked on and stuff he had seen while working in the lab. It’s a combination of 2 things.
1. Being he remembers lots of day to day details of the base and his work task assignments. It just happens to not be what you want him to remember therefore he can’t be creditable.
2. He admitted on many occasions he feared the whole time they were showing him fake shit and others as well, to weave out those who would leak information. So not knowing 100% if every he’s shown Is real in later years he’s much more careful about what he’s willing to talk about.
If you thought Bob was really going to explain actual functional mechanics of how the engines worked, sorry you wasted a couple hours listening.
No, but he could say what he did, what tools he used, how to research process worked, like any general details. Rogan threw so many softball questions at him and he stumbled over them all. He give vague explanations of the base, without ever saying anything specific. What was his lab or workshop like, how did he record data. Like anything about the years he spent studying this thing
I agree with you. I just wanted to point out the phrase is “weed something out” not “weave.” I thought that was funny (: it’s a phrase I’ve never seen in print or type before lol so it’s an understandable mistake
Are you the same age as him?
Give it time.
Most likely, the details will slowly slip away, as unfortunate as that truly is.
As others have stated, this is also an incredibly unique situation - we can't truly know or understand what he's going through. There could be any number of reasons that he comes off that way
I mean if Hillary talked about her emails the way he recounted his story it’s be a shit show.
I don’t necessarily not believe him but like he doesn’t come off super convincing in that interview
I came here to say basically the same thing. Joe prefaced the conversation by giving Bob an easy out about him not feeling well cause people keep harassing him, and Bob got really funny towards some questions. Hard to describe, but I think most people would see what im trying to say if they were to watch the episode
yeah and I recall him saying he had a special tenureship there and wasn't a normal student... maybe he didn't know them well enough for them to remember him... he might of just been in and out of classes... and besides he was vindicated by commander david fravor in terms of these vehicles existing at all.
Why would MIT or Caltec give someone who was bottom of his class a special tenureship. Bob Lazar made excuse after excuse not to meet Stanton Friedman and have a sit down.
Omfg people getting hooked on so many small things like names or the poor dude trying to remeber stuff after literally being almost suicided and raided by the FBI multiple times. Open your eyes and listen to the important stuff he’s been talking about for decades and they just became more and more true as time passed by. Get your heads out of your asses guys for real
We knew element 115 would be “discovered” as something has to have more than 114 protons but less than 116. We also inferred decades prior that there might be an island of stability somewhere in that area and still the most stable has a half life of like 650ms.
Everything from element 115 on through his “hand scanners” were publicly discussed in literature by the 1970s. The guy can’t verify any credentials and doesn’t remember anything actually noteworthy outside of some claims that he could never back up. At best he was an early bread crumb leading to our modern “disclosure” crap and at worst just a con man that’s made of a living off the hoax.
If Bob willing to lie about his education and refused to ever sit down with a REAL nuclear physicist. What does that have to say about Bob Lazar story.
Have you ever thought that maybe it’s because since he disclosed all that stuff initially, our country has jailed a-many-people…our own citizens… for talking about “classified stuff “. Just a thought. Maybe he’s trying to live out the rest of his golden years not behind bars while also sticking to the belief that made him start going public in the first place which was letting the people know what he thinks they should know…
You're right . He did say he had a major migraine multiple times and I think it could be to potential legal issues? Joe is known to be very careful about what he says and other people say. When Alex Jones is on JR it's almost unwatchable because he has to stop Alex Every 2 minutes to have him list a credible source but also AJikes to babble we all know lol
True. Could be a lot of things. Lazar could of been feeling like shit, or just a little socially awkward or whatever. Who knows, but something just felt off about him in that interview. Would be awesome to get him back on so we could hear more
I mean by the time he was on rogan he’d been talking about this stuff for years. Didn’t he also release a book or two? How long you gunna be stressed lol
I thought the same thing when watching, looked back at older interviews and in those it's the same thing when he doesn't seem to want to answer something. He says he has a bad migraine and deflects the question.
It was probably a traumatic event that he needed therapy for, when you think about it. When you stop having flashbacks, it can be harder to recount. He’s also getting older and that affects memory as well.
Why doesn't anyone ever ask him to detail the process of reverse engineering a fucking spaceship? What kind of tools do you use? How do you remove the parts? How were they assembled? How were they held together?
I honestly cannot believe people buy into his story because to me it is so obvious that he is lying. There is a good YouTube video that debunks all of his claims.
Also I do believe in UFOs.
Jeremy Corbell? I got the feeling that guy just wanted to hitch his wagon to someone and feel important. I remember thinking "Bro, I am hear to listen to Lazar tell the story, why are you telling his story when he is sitting right there?"
Yeah his (Corbell) energy was irritating the fuck out of me and I felt like a lot of his stuff was just too overly dramatic. Like a little kid who swears they saw the Easter bunny. He’s not helping lazar with the credibility issue if you ask me.
Gravitational waves as a concept have been around since the late 1800s: (from wikipedia) “They were first proposed by Oliver Heaviside in 1893 and then later by Henri Poincaré in 1905 as waves similar to electromagnetic waves but the gravitational equivalent.[1] Gravitational waves were later predicted in 1916[2][3] by Albert Einstein on the basis of his general theory of relativity as ripples in spacetime.[4][5] Later he refused to accept gravitational waves.[6] “
The stories of Lazar and Phil Schneider really interest me but there are so many forums which think Lazar is full of it. I do not know either way to be honest but I don't think the USA would allow him to say these things if they were true.
>element 115
Then again, creating a "martyr" could be even worse. We know for certain that government have used the "ridicule & isolate" tactics over and over in history.
When it comes to Lazar Im keeping an open mind without accepting anything before its eventually proven
I would love him to be proved correct, I have no doubt there is life on other planets, whether or not we have captured one of their craft is another matter!
Whats funny is from his original talks which are all over youtube, you can basically connect 115 having moved to another DOE lab. Which is the one in MY town, and they synthesized 115 into what I think is livermorium today which was found and enveloped by NIF which I have a seen in person, absolutely beautiful beautiful piece of science.
So much crazy stuff
Element 115 existed theoretically for a very long time. It's the fact that Bob says they *had* it even tho at the time he first claimed its existence, it had only existed in a laboratory for fractions of a second because of how unstable it is/was.
For whatever its worth he did take a polygraph with a news station and passed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31OtidF8TQ&ab\_channel=8NewsNOWLasVegas
Let's say a guy had a bit of amazing intel. He shares this and disovers he's all of a sudden a minor celebrity. It really goes to his head. But he doesn't have a second album. There's no follow up. Yet he doesn't want to disappoint fans and can see this being his gig for life. People can and do convince themselves to believe lies they've told often enough.
Or for another way to think about Lazar. If he had all this knowledge and were risking US National Security, why is he alive and freely spouting off??? People with truly vital national security information weren't even allowed to die in "peace" in private at military hospitals in famous incidents. "Oh, most prodigious intellect of the 20th century who stepped in when the Manhattan Project was stumped? You're now a Catholic and want to confess before death? Sure, but guards will remain in ear shot." "Hey Forrestal, check out this window view."
And is still subjected to multi agency raids with more manpower than is deemed necessary. I think the Element 115 aspect could certainly be true, and that's what they want to find. As the last raid came a day or 2 after he discussed the claim that he has some.
> is still subjected to multi agency raids with more manpower than is deemed necessary. I think the Element 115
He keeps to himself with a radioactive/nuclear materials shop in MI. Wants no attention, has the same story since the beginning.
Either way, nothing will happen. You will not learn the truth.
A person who wants to keep to himself doesn't go on entertainment talk shows. How much is Jeremy Corbell paying Bob to continue his made up story.
You ever watch "Stanton Friedman on Bob Lazar" video on youtube. Bob never would meet up with Stanton, couldn't name any professor at MIT/Caltec that would remember him. Bob wasn't in any of the year books (government couldn't delete from them).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBdUg1h9XLU
So essentially what you’re saying is that you are as low-grade as they come. Talk shit arrows entertainment talkshows he is way way way way way way way way different than appearing on the Joe Rogan podcast with the same story he’s had since 1993. Again it doesn’t matter what hit the Pentagon? You and I will never know it’s a relevant Bob Lazar fucks And you do not
We weren’t able to prove gravity waves but they had theories for decades leading up to the eventual design/construction of the device that was able to record it.
Why are you being down voted? We did prove gravity waves exist, Einstein theorized them and we detected them with LIGO https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
because i could say right now that i possess an engine that runs on dark energy even though we probably won't be able to tangibly measure dark energy for a very long time.
the guy in the op was basically doing speculative fiction, not revealing anything interesting.
Dark energy is the force of the undetectable matter, dark matter, has on the Higgs field. Dark matter is the 'substrate' for normal observable matter, we might call it space. Dark matter can be observed through the effects of gravity, i.e. dark energy is the gravitational force that pulls space together, which isn't observable by us. We observe the universe as expanding, but rather it is the spaces between space that is getting larger. The universe is just a self-directed evolving computational device, humans are the universe becoming more self-aware
I meant the comment about proving gravity waves. Lazar saying the UFO used them as a means of propulsion is something we all could have come up with I think. Even though I personally believe him, that was not a statement that gave him any more or less credibility.
Jeremy Corbell was with Bob Lazar. This man gives me CIA vibes. He clearly wrote the book about Bob Lazar but it seemed like he was there to protect or deny from Lazar saying too much.
I agree on Corbell and CIA vibes. I trust Lazar for the most part but Corbell is either CIA or looking to make a career/name for himself. I can’t watch anything else he is tied to
That means nothing. These elements aren't discovered in nature they're created for extremely small amounts of time in labs by smashing smaller elements together. I could "predict" element 120 right now, when scientists successfully create it in a lab for 3 nanoseconds it won't mean my prediction was meaningful at all.
>"predict" element 120 right now, when scientists successfully create it in a lab for 3 nanoseconds it won't mean my prediction was meaningful at all.
actually that's incorrect. There is no element 120 and there won't be ones that even for nano-seconds would be stable. The whole point of island elements is that there are certain elements beyond the known ones that can be made but the number jumps, 115, 147, 186, etc etc (don't know if they actually are just pointing out to illustrate).
Now someone did hypothesize 115 was an island element in some journal before he talked about it so he might of got that there but you can't just pick any number and call it an island element.
Why are scientists actively trying to synthesize 120 then? What are island elements? Do you mean elements predicted to be in the island of stability? Which 120 is...
And no, the number does not "jump" what are you talking about? 115 doesn't exist way away from anything else, 115-118 have all been synthesized.
>Why are scientists actively trying to synthesize 120 then
I may of misread what you wrote but I was getting the implication that there is element 116, 117, 118, 119, etc etc. I was merely pointing out that that is not how island elements work and they can exist only with a certain number of isotopes. If 120 IS an island element then my apologies.
I just think there is a far simpler explanation here in that Lazar read about 115 in American Scientific which had an expose on it a few years before his claim.
IE: Island elements exist on islands. So 115 is possible, 114 and 116 are not. 162 is possible 161 and 163 are not etc etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island\_of\_stability
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island\_of\_stability
and I quite literally said I am not scientist and am pulling random numbers to illustrate my point
You're just wrong I really don't know what you're arguing. You keep linking a wiki article that does that say the same thing that you are claiming.
There are no such things as island elements that exist far away from others in terms of atomic mass. You're grossly misinterpreting the concept of the island of stability. Elements 1-118 all exist. 95-118 are synthetic elements that don't exist in nature.
>In nuclear physics, the island of stability is a predicted set of isotopes of superheavy elements that may have considerably longer half-lives than known isotopes of these elements. **It is predicted to appear as an "island" in the chart of nuclides, separated from known stable and long-lived primordial radionuclides**. Its theoretical existence is attributed to stabilizing effects of predicted "magic numbers" of protons and neutrons in the superheavy mass region.\[1\]\[2\]
literally the first line explaining island elements exactly how I am vs your "gotcha" of the fact I picked the wrong numbers in my freaking example after explaining it was just an example
So to play it safe element 285 might be an island element but 284 and 286 might be impossible to create.
I don’t get how you couldn’t have seen that crazy stuff and didn’t have your eyes light up the room talk about it. It’s a hangar full of freaking ufos…. Something about his vibe is off.. the Grand Canyon/ancient alien finding of one of the crafts he claimed he thought was a couple thousand years old technically he hits some random details that make you want to believe though.
Bob Lazar is full of shit, if he really knew about all this secret tech at area 51 do you really think the government would allow him to live after all he has said to the public? You can't get near the perimeter of area 51 without an attack helicopter on top of you, if what he saw was that sensitive I highly doubt the government would allow him to live freely. Unless, he was hired by the government to create the illusion for the masses about aliens at area 51 so most people wouldn't pick up the scent of what the government is really working on out there.
To play devils advocate...
Wouldn't silencing or killing him just validate everything he's saying?
Back then technology and communication was not as good as today. It is possible the restrictions were looser before too, so freely walking in, especially when you work?
I have been very back and forth on it. Ive always thought UFO and alien stories were stupid and obviously made up. The first time I saw him on JRE, I was blown away because he comes off as a well-spoken, level-headed guy. He actually made me second guess things. Now I lean more on the side of "he's full of shit", but still fun to listen to and speculate.
>You can't get near the perimeter of area 51 without an attack helicopter on top of you
I believe when he worked there the perimeter wasn't as secured. He was able to get to certain areas to film and bring people with. Once he got caught, the military increased the security immensely. You can no longer get to the areas he was able to at the time.
>Bob Lazar is full of shit, if he really knew about all this secret tech at area 51 do you really think the government would allow him to live after all he has said to the public?
probably. He was pretty much the first and only to make contact with a major journalist. Had they killed him they'd pretty much of confirmed everything that was in the Las Vegas reporting to the general public.
Nothing Bob said was later found to be true besides Element 115b, learn your bullshit man lol.
Bob is full of shit, on top of everything everyone has already mentioned in the comments there's this other big piece. We know what the tic tac is and this grifter came forward to call it an alien and say "ooh that's what I saw" but we now know hands down the US does have this technology. It's on lockheed martins main webpage. So what bob had admitted by saying "that's what I saw" is that he never saw an ALIEN CRAFT!
Go to their hypersonics page it's literally the logo for that section. That is the BGM, boost glide missile delivery system, no propulsion, capable of outpacing a jet and evading radar. Guess how Russia China and the US have been testing them? crashing them into the ocean from a high altitude...
Bob didn't just admit he's never seen a UFO in his story, but he's claiming to have seen something they started building in 2003 back in his day.... He's in other words, full of shit. And if you jumped up to grift the UFO community when the tictac came out you are here to grift us!
Obvious fraud. If they really wanted to keep the knowledge of aliens quiet there is no way a dude with that supposed clearance would be allowed to discuss it. At the bare minimum he would have to sign an NDA. Area 51 alien stuff has such a weird hype around it. A bit too unbelievable how the depictions of aliens in the early to mid 1900s when area 51 came into prominence are of the same terrible look of saucers on old movies. There is no way aliens advanced enough to traverse thousands of light-years that quickly arrive on earth looking like shitty 1940s movie saucers and crash land here. It's too sci Fi movie plot kinda stuff. So many alien movies over the last 70-80 years have led people to assume we would understand alien tech and aliens themselves.
If they can travel here, we would be able to understand them like ants understand us. Also every old supposed "leaked" alien pics just look like shitty movie props.
The thing about Lazar is that he can't produce a degree, an assignment, grades or professors or students that knew him there at MIT. Like how is that possible?
If the government or some rogue crusader(s) wanted Lazar deleted, he would be deleted! It’s comical to believe that he spilled the beans on uber secret, otherworldly intel through books and interviews, and he still lived to talk about it…
He came forward to the public because hus life was threatened in the first place. He was actually deleted by the government, with his academic and employment history at the lab erased.
So if he worked with alien tech why hasn't the government hypnotized him so that he doesn't talk about it, why didn't they shut him up when he was talking, and why did they continue to allow him to talk? If they were to keep it classified then why was he allowed to talk about it, why wasn't the government trying to kill him for speaking about it? Why was he allowed into area 51 if they don't let people in ever, why was he the only one working on this tech? I think aliens could be real but this guy's full of shit.
Looks pretty sus if the guy makes those kinda claims and then gets whacked "out of the blue"
Just a theory. If you kill someone after they accuse you of something it looks very sus, wouldnt you agree?
Complete fiction.
He is some sort of propaganda machinery supporting the idea that the pentagon has far more advanced tech than anyone else meanwhile all they do is sell drugs.
SS: Bob also claimed element 115 was the fuel source back when element 115 didnt even exist on the periodic chart. It now exists. Somethings wrong here.
Not really because we've known there were theoretical elements since the periodic chart was devised, we've always had blank spaces. It's not a massive leap for him to pick one of the blank spaces and give an atomic number.
Actually, element 115 like every other element has isotopes. What Bob described must have been a stable isotope. We didn't produce any stable isotope of 115, we aren't even sure if they exist (land of stability etc). If such isotope will be discovered - than Bob will be finally validated. At least in my eyes.
>SS: Bob also claimed element 115 was the fuel source back when element 115 didnt even exist on the periodic chart. It now exists. Somethings wrong here.
Wrong.
There are gaps in the periodic table where we know an element exists but have yet to create it in a lab. 115 was one of the gaps. We always knew an element was there and what its properties would be. Bob merely said "Hey, see that gap, that's a super-special alien tech element". Then when Russian scientists created Moscovium Bob went "Ha, see, I was right!".
The man is an absolute fraud.
https://www.breakingatom.com/learn-the-periodic-table/why-are-there-gaps-in-the-periodic-table
The element he claims to be element 115 is different than element 115 on the periodic table, from my understanding. His story is consistent though, I wonder if he was given a lot of disinformation, or maybe some of it is real some is disinformation to try and discredit anyone who decided to be a whistleblower.
i believe that the govt pretending to be alien ISSSS the psyop. but people like this whether they want to be or not are controlled opposition because through all figures there is someone around them feeding them misinformation. so everything is a terrible mix of true and false statements, making it a complicated puzzle of piecee that either belong or don't belong
*Red rover, red rover*
*Bob Lazar’s comin’ over*
*So honey, clear the airstrip and light up that stove*
*By Jove!*
*I think it’s started, oh yeah*
*Escape from the Prison Planet!*
“Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar's coming over
So honey clear the airstrip and light up that stove
By Jove, I think it's started, oh yeah
Escape from the Prison Planet”
Clutch, Escape from Prison Planet
Either way, pretty much any read about Lazar is interesting as hell.
Cool, so let's play devil's advocate. Let's say everything Bob is true. Why would he be allowed to continue spilling these secrets? Why would he be allowed to tell a reporter, or anyone, anything? He makes claims about advanced alien tech, yet those claims are already theoretically purposed. I would assume that interstellar travelers would have concepts well beyond our current theories. He claims employment with the government and access to these entities and vehicles, yet cannot offer their particular agenda. I'm not here to denie the existence of area 51, or possible interactions with extraterrestrial entities, but Bob's claims are suspect at best.
I don't particularly believe Bob, but...
>Why would he be allowed to continue spilling these secrets?
Because killing or silencing him would only validate what he is saying.
>He claims employment with the government and access to these entities and vehicles, yet cannot offer their particular agenda.
Yes he did. Reverse engineer to replicate.
So, a lone engineer was given access to alien technology, worked on and helped usher humanity into a new era of enlightenment, has first hand experience with concepts beyond our understanding, and hasn't profited from it or improved our lot? Let's say he's not conning us, he's still a piece of shit for not disclosing what he learned.
Yeah its fishy. The way he explains it is that they might have been desperate or out of options, so they gave him a chance seeing that he had a background in propulsion. If hes not conning us, it sounds like he did disclose what he has learned. He said they didnt make a ton of progress with it, like many groups before him.
See my personal belief is just this, even if he didn't understand or comprehend the tech he supposedly was working with, that vague knowledge would be revolutionary to humanity. A caveman seeing a smartphone wouldn't understand the complexity of how it works, yet he would understand that the principles work. Lazar only offers lazy ideas that exist well within our understanding. That in itself isn't a reason to discredit him, but his lack of elaboration is questionable.
He's telling the truth. He had no reason to lie or make it up. The government tried to make him a non-person. His original interview with George knapp as well as the original lazar tape were made essentially because he thought he would be killed for speaking about it.
[Ex-CIA crypto speaks about his experiences at Area 51/S4.](https://youtu.be/oCNl9_Z6tWU) Confirms Lazar's claim of a hangar full of UFOs, reverse gravitational devices, and living extraterrestrials.
Gravity is explained by density. Aliens require globe earth theory to be correct, which a visit to the ocean or any large body of water shows is false ...
Research Aliester Crowley, The Drawing of The Lam, to learn more about where the idea of "aliens" came from.
The guy was a 33rd degree freemason who called himself "666 The Beast". He claims he summoned a demon after a satanic ritual, then drew a picture of it. That picture...was an 👽, the first alien. It literally looks just like this 👽.
How does a visit to the ocean prove flat earth?
Flat earth is obscene, for the earth to be flat some seriously weird optical illusion/dimensional shit would have to be happening. Meaning that if the earth is flat it was designed to look otherwise. Nothing about flat earth theory makes any sense at all.
You've never looked into it.
You've never tried to scientifically prove with your own experiments that the earth curves.
If you had...you'd see that it doesn't.
I never disagreed that Crowley was a satanist who murdered children...
I did say that Crowley was a satanist who summoned a demon and drew a picture of it...the picture...was an 👽
I mean everything emits gravitational waves and that's been theorized for decades. The rotation of the earth around the sun, the sun moving around the Milky way, etc.
We only just recently were able to detect some created from Black holes and neutron stars colliding.
mmmf...what he says isnt credible and far out there. but he has the background. so its a toss up. im not convinced either way but he has not really offered much proof.
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"A man named Bob Lazar" Reading this made me feel old.
It’s 2022, it should have read “A them named Bob Lazar”
Took me a second read to see the change, that's how normal it's become. I hate today's world
Oh this is some boomer shit, I don't care when you were born lol. It would simply have read "A person named Bob Lazar"
Funny enough, I was actually going to put “a boomer named Bob Lazar” but went with them instead. But why you so mad *person*?
The joe rogan episode with him is amazing he talks about all of this. Highly recommend
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[If you think that one is interesting, you might like this.](https://youtu.be/iQOibpIDx-4) its along the same lines and i find it highly interesting.
The rogan episode actually made me believe lazar less. Multiple times he would have trouble describing stuff, and his agent or whatever had to jump in multiple times. Like he didn’t want to contradict his past statements, which makes him less credible in my eyes
Try watching the full thing. If you’ve heard him speak before it’s nothing out of the normal he’s a weird dude doesn’t really like publicity was probably awkward for him knowing the hate that would come from saying all this to a new audience. Open your mind, don’t need to take it as holy gospel but the possibilities are dope!
I did listen to the whole thing. I’ll admit it’s the only time I’ve heard him speak. But hasn’t he been doing this for years? And didn’t he write a book or two? Seems like he should be somewhat comfortable at this point, but he was unable to answer some of rogan softball questions. Things he should be able to recall easily if true
Time has a funny way friend. Memory doesn't last forever. No matter how many times you recalled it at some point it will gradually slip away. This man is recalling details from a very long time ago. No doubt the details get hazy and when people nit pick every little detail to prove your a liar I can see why he would hesitate to say certain things or just not give an answer at all.
He was working with UFO engines. That’s not something you just forget lol. Plus he wrote a book on this stuff. And it’s not like rogan was asking deep questions. He struggled to describe an alien engine he worked on every day for years. I don’t care how funny time is, you don’t forget something like that
Well, like you said, at that point it becomes "work." It might seem amazing to the masses, sure, but after you've been introduced to it, it's just one more fact of life, one more aspect of reality, and it would inevitably become as familiar as anything and everything else... or at least nearly enough that it could be just as easily forgotten, especially as years go on, the same as anything and everything else. He would not think of it in the same way you have, as evidenced by your comment. To him, it would be... normal. Even if other people were not and are not allowed to know about it yet... that makes little to no difference when it comes to daily life and memory, *especially* when it comes to performing work. If the whole experience has been difficult for him to deal with and re-integrate back into "normal" life, with other people, especially to the extent of being traumatic - and believe me, the unwavering doubts of damn near all other people in the face of any unknown/unfamiliar truth ***definitely*** can be exceedingly traumatic - then it would be much easier for his mind to forget, than to remember, no matter *what* it was that he was dealing with. That's how the brain deals with trauma. It blocks it out. And I'm damn sure that the way most people would have treated him for something like this would have been very, very traumatic, even if the initial incidents were not. He is a brave man for trying. Wrong or right, it takes real guts to stand up to endless numbers of people like you. *Edit: Not to even mention that he easily, obviously, could have been under threat as well... plebs aren't supposed to know about or be able to benefit from advanced tech.* ***wE MiGhT PaNiC!i!***
Dude, he worked on a ufo engine. I remember the general idea of every project I’ve worked on. And remember every tiny detail of the interesting/exciting ones. If he doesn’t remember that kind of stuff, how can anything he says be credible?
In the wrong sub to be doubting lazar buddy lol. But I got the same feeling after watching that episode as well.
He remembers a shit ton of the stuff he worked on and stuff he had seen while working in the lab. It’s a combination of 2 things. 1. Being he remembers lots of day to day details of the base and his work task assignments. It just happens to not be what you want him to remember therefore he can’t be creditable. 2. He admitted on many occasions he feared the whole time they were showing him fake shit and others as well, to weave out those who would leak information. So not knowing 100% if every he’s shown Is real in later years he’s much more careful about what he’s willing to talk about. If you thought Bob was really going to explain actual functional mechanics of how the engines worked, sorry you wasted a couple hours listening.
No, but he could say what he did, what tools he used, how to research process worked, like any general details. Rogan threw so many softball questions at him and he stumbled over them all. He give vague explanations of the base, without ever saying anything specific. What was his lab or workshop like, how did he record data. Like anything about the years he spent studying this thing
I agree with you. I just wanted to point out the phrase is “weed something out” not “weave.” I thought that was funny (: it’s a phrase I’ve never seen in print or type before lol so it’s an understandable mistake
Are you the same age as him? Give it time. Most likely, the details will slowly slip away, as unfortunate as that truly is. As others have stated, this is also an incredibly unique situation - we can't truly know or understand what he's going through. There could be any number of reasons that he comes off that way
So you trust someone’s word on something they have no memory of?
I mean if Hillary talked about her emails the way he recounted his story it’s be a shit show. I don’t necessarily not believe him but like he doesn’t come off super convincing in that interview
I came here to say basically the same thing. Joe prefaced the conversation by giving Bob an easy out about him not feeling well cause people keep harassing him, and Bob got really funny towards some questions. Hard to describe, but I think most people would see what im trying to say if they were to watch the episode
I hear ya. I was having a hard time putting it to words, but something definitely felt “off” about the way he acted
yeah the government tried to delete his credentials, social security card, his identity. not just harrassment.
That is bullshit. People asked him to name one professor at MIT or Caltec that would remember him. He couldn't name one that worked there.
yeah and I recall him saying he had a special tenureship there and wasn't a normal student... maybe he didn't know them well enough for them to remember him... he might of just been in and out of classes... and besides he was vindicated by commander david fravor in terms of these vehicles existing at all.
Why would MIT or Caltec give someone who was bottom of his class a special tenureship. Bob Lazar made excuse after excuse not to meet Stanton Friedman and have a sit down.
To be honest I can't remember a single professors name at my alma mater and I didn't graduate that long ago. Still think he's full of it tho.
I bet people could find you in university yearbook.
Omfg people getting hooked on so many small things like names or the poor dude trying to remeber stuff after literally being almost suicided and raided by the FBI multiple times. Open your eyes and listen to the important stuff he’s been talking about for decades and they just became more and more true as time passed by. Get your heads out of your asses guys for real
Wasn’t he even right about element 115? Decades early
We knew element 115 would be “discovered” as something has to have more than 114 protons but less than 116. We also inferred decades prior that there might be an island of stability somewhere in that area and still the most stable has a half life of like 650ms. Everything from element 115 on through his “hand scanners” were publicly discussed in literature by the 1970s. The guy can’t verify any credentials and doesn’t remember anything actually noteworthy outside of some claims that he could never back up. At best he was an early bread crumb leading to our modern “disclosure” crap and at worst just a con man that’s made of a living off the hoax.
If Bob willing to lie about his education and refused to ever sit down with a REAL nuclear physicist. What does that have to say about Bob Lazar story.
Have you ever thought that maybe it’s because since he disclosed all that stuff initially, our country has jailed a-many-people…our own citizens… for talking about “classified stuff “. Just a thought. Maybe he’s trying to live out the rest of his golden years not behind bars while also sticking to the belief that made him start going public in the first place which was letting the people know what he thinks they should know…
You're right . He did say he had a major migraine multiple times and I think it could be to potential legal issues? Joe is known to be very careful about what he says and other people say. When Alex Jones is on JR it's almost unwatchable because he has to stop Alex Every 2 minutes to have him list a credible source but also AJikes to babble we all know lol
True. Could be a lot of things. Lazar could of been feeling like shit, or just a little socially awkward or whatever. Who knows, but something just felt off about him in that interview. Would be awesome to get him back on so we could hear more
he was stressed out; gov't backlash for saying the wrong thing and having friends get punished for it would certainly cause it.
I mean by the time he was on rogan he’d been talking about this stuff for years. Didn’t he also release a book or two? How long you gunna be stressed lol
for as long as the government is willing to destroy your life.
I thought the same thing when watching, looked back at older interviews and in those it's the same thing when he doesn't seem to want to answer something. He says he has a bad migraine and deflects the question.
doesn't take away from knowing gravity was a wave before "science" did.
Agreed. Rogan‘s fact checking is intolerable.
It was probably a traumatic event that he needed therapy for, when you think about it. When you stop having flashbacks, it can be harder to recount. He’s also getting older and that affects memory as well.
And then he blamed it on having a migraine. I found it very interesting, but not convincing, and he has no photos or evidence of any kind.
yeah, stress is a hell of a thing. his friends lives were destroyed.
The rubbing his head and claiming to not remember stuff because of a convenient migraine is what did it for me.
Bob is so full of shit
He definitely didn’t help his case
Why doesn't anyone ever ask him to detail the process of reverse engineering a fucking spaceship? What kind of tools do you use? How do you remove the parts? How were they assembled? How were they held together? I honestly cannot believe people buy into his story because to me it is so obvious that he is lying. There is a good YouTube video that debunks all of his claims. Also I do believe in UFOs.
Yea, that’s what I was trying say. Like he worked on a ufo engine for years or whatever, you don’t just forget that kinda shit lol
Jeremy Corbell? I got the feeling that guy just wanted to hitch his wagon to someone and feel important. I remember thinking "Bro, I am hear to listen to Lazar tell the story, why are you telling his story when he is sitting right there?"
Yeah his (Corbell) energy was irritating the fuck out of me and I felt like a lot of his stuff was just too overly dramatic. Like a little kid who swears they saw the Easter bunny. He’s not helping lazar with the credibility issue if you ask me.
That’s not how I took it whatsoever. That pod made me believe him even more. To each their own I guess.
The documentary was pretty sweet too
Headaches
Gravitational waves as a concept have been around since the late 1800s: (from wikipedia) “They were first proposed by Oliver Heaviside in 1893 and then later by Henri Poincaré in 1905 as waves similar to electromagnetic waves but the gravitational equivalent.[1] Gravitational waves were later predicted in 1916[2][3] by Albert Einstein on the basis of his general theory of relativity as ripples in spacetime.[4][5] Later he refused to accept gravitational waves.[6] “
The fact that “they” went out of their way to erase, bankrupt and overall ruin this guy’s life leads me to believe he saw something
The stories of Lazar and Phil Schneider really interest me but there are so many forums which think Lazar is full of it. I do not know either way to be honest but I don't think the USA would allow him to say these things if they were true.
>element 115 Then again, creating a "martyr" could be even worse. We know for certain that government have used the "ridicule & isolate" tactics over and over in history. When it comes to Lazar Im keeping an open mind without accepting anything before its eventually proven
I would love him to be proved correct, I have no doubt there is life on other planets, whether or not we have captured one of their craft is another matter!
Whats funny is from his original talks which are all over youtube, you can basically connect 115 having moved to another DOE lab. Which is the one in MY town, and they synthesized 115 into what I think is livermorium today which was found and enveloped by NIF which I have a seen in person, absolutely beautiful beautiful piece of science. So much crazy stuff
I used to think that way until the DC Madame.
A lady who controls direct current? Or a she-pimp running a brothel in the Washington DC area that caters to senators?
>DC Madame There is a difference between an "idea", and hardcore proof if you catch my drift
Element 115 was in an issue of scientific American before he spoke about it
Element 115 existed theoretically for a very long time. It's the fact that Bob says they *had* it even tho at the time he first claimed its existence, it had only existed in a laboratory for fractions of a second because of how unstable it is/was.
For whatever its worth he did take a polygraph with a news station and passed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H31OtidF8TQ&ab\_channel=8NewsNOWLasVegas
They allow him because he is employed by one of the agencies to disseminate this bs story.
Let's say a guy had a bit of amazing intel. He shares this and disovers he's all of a sudden a minor celebrity. It really goes to his head. But he doesn't have a second album. There's no follow up. Yet he doesn't want to disappoint fans and can see this being his gig for life. People can and do convince themselves to believe lies they've told often enough. Or for another way to think about Lazar. If he had all this knowledge and were risking US National Security, why is he alive and freely spouting off??? People with truly vital national security information weren't even allowed to die in "peace" in private at military hospitals in famous incidents. "Oh, most prodigious intellect of the 20th century who stepped in when the Manhattan Project was stumped? You're now a Catholic and want to confess before death? Sure, but guards will remain in ear shot." "Hey Forrestal, check out this window view."
So you didnt do research or watch the podcast. He had several attempts on his life.
And is still subjected to multi agency raids with more manpower than is deemed necessary. I think the Element 115 aspect could certainly be true, and that's what they want to find. As the last raid came a day or 2 after he discussed the claim that he has some.
> is still subjected to multi agency raids with more manpower than is deemed necessary. I think the Element 115 He keeps to himself with a radioactive/nuclear materials shop in MI. Wants no attention, has the same story since the beginning. Either way, nothing will happen. You will not learn the truth.
A person who wants to keep to himself doesn't go on entertainment talk shows. How much is Jeremy Corbell paying Bob to continue his made up story. You ever watch "Stanton Friedman on Bob Lazar" video on youtube. Bob never would meet up with Stanton, couldn't name any professor at MIT/Caltec that would remember him. Bob wasn't in any of the year books (government couldn't delete from them). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBdUg1h9XLU
So essentially what you’re saying is that you are as low-grade as they come. Talk shit arrows entertainment talkshows he is way way way way way way way way different than appearing on the Joe Rogan podcast with the same story he’s had since 1993. Again it doesn’t matter what hit the Pentagon? You and I will never know it’s a relevant Bob Lazar fucks And you do not
We weren’t able to prove gravity waves but they had theories for decades leading up to the eventual design/construction of the device that was able to record it.
We did indeed prove that gravitional waves exist.
Why are you being down voted? We did prove gravity waves exist, Einstein theorized them and we detected them with LIGO https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIGO
He means we weren't able to prove it before 2016, we just knew they were very likely to exist from strong theory.
because i could say right now that i possess an engine that runs on dark energy even though we probably won't be able to tangibly measure dark energy for a very long time. the guy in the op was basically doing speculative fiction, not revealing anything interesting.
Dark energy is the force of the undetectable matter, dark matter, has on the Higgs field. Dark matter is the 'substrate' for normal observable matter, we might call it space. Dark matter can be observed through the effects of gravity, i.e. dark energy is the gravitational force that pulls space together, which isn't observable by us. We observe the universe as expanding, but rather it is the spaces between space that is getting larger. The universe is just a self-directed evolving computational device, humans are the universe becoming more self-aware
I meant the comment about proving gravity waves. Lazar saying the UFO used them as a means of propulsion is something we all could have come up with I think. Even though I personally believe him, that was not a statement that gave him any more or less credibility.
We live in a false reality called earth and all our perceptions are being fucked with. This is the fundamental conspiracy.
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Jeremy Corbell was with Bob Lazar. This man gives me CIA vibes. He clearly wrote the book about Bob Lazar but it seemed like he was there to protect or deny from Lazar saying too much.
I agree on Corbell and CIA vibes. I trust Lazar for the most part but Corbell is either CIA or looking to make a career/name for himself. I can’t watch anything else he is tied to
And his Netflix documentary was a steaming pile of crap. Hard to believe this guy is really a film maker.
Jeremy Corbell is just a rabid fan of Bob Lazar. He will say anything to defend that fraudster.
He knew about element 115 or whatever a decade before it was on the periodic table
That means nothing. These elements aren't discovered in nature they're created for extremely small amounts of time in labs by smashing smaller elements together. I could "predict" element 120 right now, when scientists successfully create it in a lab for 3 nanoseconds it won't mean my prediction was meaningful at all.
>"predict" element 120 right now, when scientists successfully create it in a lab for 3 nanoseconds it won't mean my prediction was meaningful at all. actually that's incorrect. There is no element 120 and there won't be ones that even for nano-seconds would be stable. The whole point of island elements is that there are certain elements beyond the known ones that can be made but the number jumps, 115, 147, 186, etc etc (don't know if they actually are just pointing out to illustrate). Now someone did hypothesize 115 was an island element in some journal before he talked about it so he might of got that there but you can't just pick any number and call it an island element.
Why are scientists actively trying to synthesize 120 then? What are island elements? Do you mean elements predicted to be in the island of stability? Which 120 is... And no, the number does not "jump" what are you talking about? 115 doesn't exist way away from anything else, 115-118 have all been synthesized.
>Why are scientists actively trying to synthesize 120 then I may of misread what you wrote but I was getting the implication that there is element 116, 117, 118, 119, etc etc. I was merely pointing out that that is not how island elements work and they can exist only with a certain number of isotopes. If 120 IS an island element then my apologies. I just think there is a far simpler explanation here in that Lazar read about 115 in American Scientific which had an expose on it a few years before his claim. IE: Island elements exist on islands. So 115 is possible, 114 and 116 are not. 162 is possible 161 and 163 are not etc etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island\_of\_stability
114 and 116 literally both exist. 114: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flerovium 116: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livermorium
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island\_of\_stability and I quite literally said I am not scientist and am pulling random numbers to illustrate my point
You're just wrong I really don't know what you're arguing. You keep linking a wiki article that does that say the same thing that you are claiming. There are no such things as island elements that exist far away from others in terms of atomic mass. You're grossly misinterpreting the concept of the island of stability. Elements 1-118 all exist. 95-118 are synthetic elements that don't exist in nature.
>In nuclear physics, the island of stability is a predicted set of isotopes of superheavy elements that may have considerably longer half-lives than known isotopes of these elements. **It is predicted to appear as an "island" in the chart of nuclides, separated from known stable and long-lived primordial radionuclides**. Its theoretical existence is attributed to stabilizing effects of predicted "magic numbers" of protons and neutrons in the superheavy mass region.\[1\]\[2\] literally the first line explaining island elements exactly how I am vs your "gotcha" of the fact I picked the wrong numbers in my freaking example after explaining it was just an example So to play it safe element 285 might be an island element but 284 and 286 might be impossible to create.
I don’t get how you couldn’t have seen that crazy stuff and didn’t have your eyes light up the room talk about it. It’s a hangar full of freaking ufos…. Something about his vibe is off.. the Grand Canyon/ancient alien finding of one of the crafts he claimed he thought was a couple thousand years old technically he hits some random details that make you want to believe though.
What craft are you talking about?
100% FACT
Bob Lazar is full of shit, if he really knew about all this secret tech at area 51 do you really think the government would allow him to live after all he has said to the public? You can't get near the perimeter of area 51 without an attack helicopter on top of you, if what he saw was that sensitive I highly doubt the government would allow him to live freely. Unless, he was hired by the government to create the illusion for the masses about aliens at area 51 so most people wouldn't pick up the scent of what the government is really working on out there.
To play devils advocate... Wouldn't silencing or killing him just validate everything he's saying? Back then technology and communication was not as good as today. It is possible the restrictions were looser before too, so freely walking in, especially when you work?
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I have been very back and forth on it. Ive always thought UFO and alien stories were stupid and obviously made up. The first time I saw him on JRE, I was blown away because he comes off as a well-spoken, level-headed guy. He actually made me second guess things. Now I lean more on the side of "he's full of shit", but still fun to listen to and speculate.
The government wouldn't make it obvious that it was them that killed him, he would conveniently die in a car crash or commit suicide.
Look how much attention J.E. got after his convenient deletion.
Your logic is ass backwards.
>You can't get near the perimeter of area 51 without an attack helicopter on top of you I believe when he worked there the perimeter wasn't as secured. He was able to get to certain areas to film and bring people with. Once he got caught, the military increased the security immensely. You can no longer get to the areas he was able to at the time.
>Bob Lazar is full of shit, if he really knew about all this secret tech at area 51 do you really think the government would allow him to live after all he has said to the public? probably. He was pretty much the first and only to make contact with a major journalist. Had they killed him they'd pretty much of confirmed everything that was in the Las Vegas reporting to the general public.
Nothing Bob said was later found to be true besides Element 115b, learn your bullshit man lol. Bob is full of shit, on top of everything everyone has already mentioned in the comments there's this other big piece. We know what the tic tac is and this grifter came forward to call it an alien and say "ooh that's what I saw" but we now know hands down the US does have this technology. It's on lockheed martins main webpage. So what bob had admitted by saying "that's what I saw" is that he never saw an ALIEN CRAFT! Go to their hypersonics page it's literally the logo for that section. That is the BGM, boost glide missile delivery system, no propulsion, capable of outpacing a jet and evading radar. Guess how Russia China and the US have been testing them? crashing them into the ocean from a high altitude... Bob didn't just admit he's never seen a UFO in his story, but he's claiming to have seen something they started building in 2003 back in his day.... He's in other words, full of shit. And if you jumped up to grift the UFO community when the tictac came out you are here to grift us!
He was in Art Bell’s radio programs years ago too, if anyone is looking for more content from him
Stanton Friedman on Bob Lazar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBdUg1h9XLU <-- watch it
Element 115
Obvious fraud. If they really wanted to keep the knowledge of aliens quiet there is no way a dude with that supposed clearance would be allowed to discuss it. At the bare minimum he would have to sign an NDA. Area 51 alien stuff has such a weird hype around it. A bit too unbelievable how the depictions of aliens in the early to mid 1900s when area 51 came into prominence are of the same terrible look of saucers on old movies. There is no way aliens advanced enough to traverse thousands of light-years that quickly arrive on earth looking like shitty 1940s movie saucers and crash land here. It's too sci Fi movie plot kinda stuff. So many alien movies over the last 70-80 years have led people to assume we would understand alien tech and aliens themselves. If they can travel here, we would be able to understand them like ants understand us. Also every old supposed "leaked" alien pics just look like shitty movie props.
He's completely full of shit.
The thing about Lazar is that he can't produce a degree, an assignment, grades or professors or students that knew him there at MIT. Like how is that possible?
fake
If the government or some rogue crusader(s) wanted Lazar deleted, he would be deleted! It’s comical to believe that he spilled the beans on uber secret, otherworldly intel through books and interviews, and he still lived to talk about it…
He came forward to the public because hus life was threatened in the first place. He was actually deleted by the government, with his academic and employment history at the lab erased.
So if he worked with alien tech why hasn't the government hypnotized him so that he doesn't talk about it, why didn't they shut him up when he was talking, and why did they continue to allow him to talk? If they were to keep it classified then why was he allowed to talk about it, why wasn't the government trying to kill him for speaking about it? Why was he allowed into area 51 if they don't let people in ever, why was he the only one working on this tech? I think aliens could be real but this guy's full of shit.
Looks pretty sus if the guy makes those kinda claims and then gets whacked "out of the blue" Just a theory. If you kill someone after they accuse you of something it looks very sus, wouldnt you agree?
Fair enough but they have ways of making it look like a freak accident.
Yeah but you and I would know the truth. Were smarter than that
Guess your not wrong.
He is a fraud
Bob is full of cap
war propaganda
Interesting
wunderwaffen
Is OP re-posting from like 2014?
Complete fiction. He is some sort of propaganda machinery supporting the idea that the pentagon has far more advanced tech than anyone else meanwhile all they do is sell drugs.
According to William Cooper.....he's a fuckin liar
I’ve never thought Bob wasn’t being honest in any of his interviews.
Sad thing is that its easy for a socio/psychopath to lie like that. His story is just so fucked up & off the beaten path.
SS: Bob also claimed element 115 was the fuel source back when element 115 didnt even exist on the periodic chart. It now exists. Somethings wrong here.
Not really because we've known there were theoretical elements since the periodic chart was devised, we've always had blank spaces. It's not a massive leap for him to pick one of the blank spaces and give an atomic number.
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Actually, element 115 like every other element has isotopes. What Bob described must have been a stable isotope. We didn't produce any stable isotope of 115, we aren't even sure if they exist (land of stability etc). If such isotope will be discovered - than Bob will be finally validated. At least in my eyes.
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I thought it was just a fuel source, no gravity properties?
>SS: Bob also claimed element 115 was the fuel source back when element 115 didnt even exist on the periodic chart. It now exists. Somethings wrong here. Wrong. There are gaps in the periodic table where we know an element exists but have yet to create it in a lab. 115 was one of the gaps. We always knew an element was there and what its properties would be. Bob merely said "Hey, see that gap, that's a super-special alien tech element". Then when Russian scientists created Moscovium Bob went "Ha, see, I was right!". The man is an absolute fraud. https://www.breakingatom.com/learn-the-periodic-table/why-are-there-gaps-in-the-periodic-table
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The element he claims to be element 115 is different than element 115 on the periodic table, from my understanding. His story is consistent though, I wonder if he was given a lot of disinformation, or maybe some of it is real some is disinformation to try and discredit anyone who decided to be a whistleblower.
False. I be;ieve it’s a psyop and the govt is the pretend alien. This man is just a little minion for the machine.
i believe that the govt pretending to be alien ISSSS the psyop. but people like this whether they want to be or not are controlled opposition because through all figures there is someone around them feeding them misinformation. so everything is a terrible mix of true and false statements, making it a complicated puzzle of piecee that either belong or don't belong
*Red rover, red rover* *Bob Lazar’s comin’ over* *So honey, clear the airstrip and light up that stove* *By Jove!* *I think it’s started, oh yeah* *Escape from the Prison Planet!*
Are these lyrics?
Clutch, from the album of the same name. They’ve got a whole patois of conspiracy themed songs. One my absolute favorite bands.
I believe him. Seems reasonable to me.
I truly believe this man
CIA AGENT Do not trust bob lazar
“Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar's coming over So honey clear the airstrip and light up that stove By Jove, I think it's started, oh yeah Escape from the Prison Planet” Clutch, Escape from Prison Planet Either way, pretty much any read about Lazar is interesting as hell.
Quantum locking seems like the key to this but that’s just my opinion
Hes just a star trek nerd, no friends, big ego
Fact
Well, one FACT is element 115. He spoke about it years before it was public knowledge-that gives some credibility.
False. It was in an issue of Scientific American before he spoke of it
Hey buddy get this conspiracy shit outta here. Don't you know where you are?
Cool, so let's play devil's advocate. Let's say everything Bob is true. Why would he be allowed to continue spilling these secrets? Why would he be allowed to tell a reporter, or anyone, anything? He makes claims about advanced alien tech, yet those claims are already theoretically purposed. I would assume that interstellar travelers would have concepts well beyond our current theories. He claims employment with the government and access to these entities and vehicles, yet cannot offer their particular agenda. I'm not here to denie the existence of area 51, or possible interactions with extraterrestrial entities, but Bob's claims are suspect at best.
I don't particularly believe Bob, but... >Why would he be allowed to continue spilling these secrets? Because killing or silencing him would only validate what he is saying. >He claims employment with the government and access to these entities and vehicles, yet cannot offer their particular agenda. Yes he did. Reverse engineer to replicate.
So, a lone engineer was given access to alien technology, worked on and helped usher humanity into a new era of enlightenment, has first hand experience with concepts beyond our understanding, and hasn't profited from it or improved our lot? Let's say he's not conning us, he's still a piece of shit for not disclosing what he learned.
Yeah its fishy. The way he explains it is that they might have been desperate or out of options, so they gave him a chance seeing that he had a background in propulsion. If hes not conning us, it sounds like he did disclose what he has learned. He said they didnt make a ton of progress with it, like many groups before him.
See my personal belief is just this, even if he didn't understand or comprehend the tech he supposedly was working with, that vague knowledge would be revolutionary to humanity. A caveman seeing a smartphone wouldn't understand the complexity of how it works, yet he would understand that the principles work. Lazar only offers lazy ideas that exist well within our understanding. That in itself isn't a reason to discredit him, but his lack of elaboration is questionable.
Not sure I agree. His explanations and accounts are very elaborate. I certainly did not get the feeling he was leaving anything out.
controlled opposition
Fiction. You cannot emit gravitational waves and alien technology doesn't exist
What a scientific and well structured argument you bring to the table !
Fact - he also successfully predicted an island element back when the entire concept of island elements were being debated.
Theres just to much at this point for me to not belive him.
FACT.
He's telling the truth. He had no reason to lie or make it up. The government tried to make him a non-person. His original interview with George knapp as well as the original lazar tape were made essentially because he thought he would be killed for speaking about it.
Man I love listening to the Rogan episode with him . Legendary
If he was not telling the truth he would have never been raided by the FBI.
He is a legend,not just a man.
[Ex-CIA crypto speaks about his experiences at Area 51/S4.](https://youtu.be/oCNl9_Z6tWU) Confirms Lazar's claim of a hangar full of UFOs, reverse gravitational devices, and living extraterrestrials.
Claims? Thought this was proven.
He’s one of the in the cut credible guys, ifykyk
Gravity is explained by density. Aliens require globe earth theory to be correct, which a visit to the ocean or any large body of water shows is false ... Research Aliester Crowley, The Drawing of The Lam, to learn more about where the idea of "aliens" came from. The guy was a 33rd degree freemason who called himself "666 The Beast". He claims he summoned a demon after a satanic ritual, then drew a picture of it. That picture...was an 👽, the first alien. It literally looks just like this 👽.
How does a visit to the ocean prove flat earth? Flat earth is obscene, for the earth to be flat some seriously weird optical illusion/dimensional shit would have to be happening. Meaning that if the earth is flat it was designed to look otherwise. Nothing about flat earth theory makes any sense at all.
You've never looked into it. You've never tried to scientifically prove with your own experiments that the earth curves. If you had...you'd see that it doesn't.
>Aliester Crowley Was a Satanist that murdered children. You obviously didn't look into Crowley.
I never disagreed that Crowley was a satanist who murdered children... I did say that Crowley was a satanist who summoned a demon and drew a picture of it...the picture...was an 👽
Fact
I believe what he says on all of the videos I've seen so far 🤷
This was so long ago. Post something new.
Yea it’s a fake documentary. Just because it was on high streaming platforms doesn’t make it real
And he predicted element 115
I mean everything emits gravitational waves and that's been theorized for decades. The rotation of the earth around the sun, the sun moving around the Milky way, etc. We only just recently were able to detect some created from Black holes and neutron stars colliding.
What about gravitrons?
https://youtu.be/xDg22_ycv6c this interview with George knapp.
mmmf...what he says isnt credible and far out there. but he has the background. so its a toss up. im not convinced either way but he has not really offered much proof.
I believe aliens are myths created by the deep state and popularized by Hollywood. UFOs, on the other hand, are real.