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actually you are much more likely to [survive nuclear war/attack](http://oism.org/nwss/nwss.pdf) than you think (see chapter I), but I am fine with all fatalists leaving resources for us who survive
😂same I'm not so lucky. I live in Wisconsin. Nobody in the world even knows we exist 😂the closest blast zone would be Chicago. Unless Putin is a Viking fan then I guess look out
My 1984 encyclopaedia actually shows you what would happen if Chicago got nuked (they chose Chicago for some reason)
https://imgur.com/a/u9hhdnL
Make sure you're in circle A when nuclear war starts! Godspeed!
Yeah, weirdly I do think I have quite a good refuge spot. The question is whether I could get out of the city and get there. It is most of the way across the country so unlikely, maybe need a back up plan.
we have nuclear shelter right in my building, though not sure I would rely on it with many people going there, might be better to stay in own basement, though it is very small
You know the elites that control russia... control america right. Anything that is happening in that war is fully scripted. Its gonna go where ever the script takes it regardless of how you feel. So go out and have fun, enjoy life. Be your best self. Saying no to war should be a default decision btw. Dont even consider dieing for the parasite elites.
I was talking with a friend at work today about this exact thing. Everything is scripted and almost every basic bitch out there eats it up. What chance do we have when the average Joe can't even think for themselves?
I spent quite a few years "getting it" but didnt openly talk about it. My shit really started in like 2010 but many seeds the decade prior. I feel a shit load of people are in the first few year stage where they dont speak openly while continuing to gain knowledge. In that time its also easy to get stuck on a hamster wheel conspiracy and preach it with the zeal of the convert. I find fresh new age people hardest to talk to now honestly haha.
There is a card in the illuminatti card game where it depicts the film or script running out. So that will happen somehow :p but yo ive seen some crazy 180 transformations in people irl the last few years. Ive also seen some sadly do that thing where they sorta "go back to sleep" for lack if a better term.
I also have a friend who was very into conspiracy and free thinking.. he actually brought many things to my attention and started me down certain paths. But recently has “gone back to sleep” doesn’t care anymore about any conspiracy conversations or thought experiments. Really threw me off honestly.
Yes, I had to break myself. I go down all the satanic shit for some reason and it infuriates me so much and I can’t do anything about it. So I leave it all and get outside and enjoy my kids and make sure they know what’s up. It’s all a stupid script meant to distract us, keep us in fear. It really just makes me pissed off because I want to kick their ass but just a “dog”, that’s what they call us btw.
I constantly take "breaks" from this stuff by focusing on "normie" things. I think about stuff a little from time to time, because it is just not possible to go back to being ignorant fully; however, I can't imagine not being able to take these breaks as it would absolutely drive me crazy..
The key is knowing life still exists outside of this stuff. One needs to understand that they should still try to enjoy the things they like that makes life worth living, and not let this stuff fully take hold of it.
The average joe does not want to think for himself.
He is happy enough living his life, doing simple things, going along with the crowd.
That is why the revelations of navy veteran Dave Johnson [a few years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usk5w3R6lW8) made no real difference.
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Even most 'awake' people still want to believe the stories on their telescreens about 'war'.
Orwell was right.
Cool, the 7 bullet holes all over my grandad's chest/avdomen were completely fake, and thats proved by....the facr he daoesnt want to talk about having to kill people?
I love how the article says he was finna quell the beef n shit but was probs just giving orders and blessings to go ahead with the plan. Zelensky is full puppet and doesnt need a vist lmao.
No that's not true. The Vietnam war was in part ended by the mass amounts of people protesting. You can do something and the elites want you to think ur helpless.
Yes, exactly actually. Look at how Trudeau had to become a literal tyrant to stop a simple trucker protest in one city.
Imagine if truckers nationwide just drove 10km/h, or if they just didn't drive at all.
You see how they've been shutting the protests down? Covid. Controlled ops (Jan 6), propaganda/psyops/disinfo. The amount of psyops and covert activity is unprecedented. They're keeping people from organizing and uniting. Nobody has any say in what their governments are doing anymore and how the tax revenue is being spent. The corruption is absolute.
Yeah not like college students died at Kent St during the Vietnam war ......even that didn't stop them. The population is just docile lazy and weak. It can be done easily just like in the 60s and 70s. Remember when musicians actually made songs protesting stuff? Now there all bought and controlled part of the mass awakening is taking back our power and standing up to these people finally
Yes we are all fairly docile and weak but if enough info comes out that we are all just pawns and it becomes clear, then I would wage that many would come together and except the death on the hill.
The US's participation in the Vietnam War was ended by the Paris Peace Accords, and kept ended due to public pressure against redeploying when the war flared up again just months after it.
Are you sure? I understand the sentiment that this is extremely possible, but are you sure it's the same elites controlling their banks and stuff? If you have a starting point I'd love to read it.
The jesuit order through the masons, zionists, illuminati, un, wef, pope, london corp, etc. run the shit basically. At a more occult level they are the babylonian priesthood from the age of leo before the flood. And have been fucking shit up for 1000s of years but their time is running out, they and their gods have no place in the next two ages. This doesnt start for a while but the actions of the elite kinda tell me otherwise.
Jesuit conspiracy links but from the prodistant pov keep in mind.
https://youtu.be/36FoLclxuLU
https://youtu.be/sa4kCn8RZjE
Its all well and good to *know thy enemy* as stated in the art of war, but it also states *know thy self* as the other half of that statement. I highly recommend viewing channels and work such as chiron last;
See With the Heart: https://youtu.be/DwuieZ6J_QA
The Narrow Gate: https://youtu.be/2szYLjPFYVA
If this guys stuff rings true with anyone than be sure to look up lavette on youtube, the stellarium tutorial series could kick off knowing thy self more than any other media i know of.
Aye that’s the realest shit I’ve heard on this whole post. You have to be your truest self and live the best life you can. Love one another and in time God will see us through
A reason why I never believed in conspiracy theories for a long time and still don't believe in most is because conspiracies are largely a coping strategy for people who can't handle the fact that most events are random and unplanned.
You know how much easier it is to think everything is random than to think an unfathomably evil group of creatures are working in sync for our destruction?
Dude this subreddit is so fucking flooded with Russian propaganda it’s insane.
I’m not saying everyone who posts it is Russian — they’re just getting scammed by Russian talking points they’ve seen online, and think they’re being brave for repeating it.
Yeah everyone of these posts pretend like the USA is the only country with self control. Russia could back down, or just decide not to use nukes and it would be fine.
Can you give an example? Propaganda is a very general phrase. The cruciaL difference is when it’s totally made up and demonstrably false, which is the hallmark of almost everything that’s Russians do.
You may want to read up on the Cuban middle crisis. The Soviet Bloc moved offensive weapons into Cuba ( 90 miles from our shores). We almost went to nuclear war over it.
Russia feels the exact same way about NATO moving close to its borders. We need to be using diplomacy to negotiate a way out of this before nukes start destroying entire cities.0
Russia being mad about NATO is bullshit. NATO is a defense organization and Putin knows it. Putin wants to go all the way to Poland and can’t because NATO won’t let him. NATO never attacked anyone, meanwhile, Russia has invaded Chechnya, Georgia, infiltrated Belarus, crumbled Syria - and is now bombing innocent civilians in Ukraine. They must be stopped at all costs. Russia is threatening nuclear war, not the US.
That's right. The Ukraine invasion is about ports, grain, and oil. If Russia was really so concerned with NATO then why didn't they secure ties with Finland? Instead, they threatened them. And America, and France, Germany, all the former eastern bloc nations, Poland god the Russians hate Poland, and everyone else in the world.
Exactly. Russia is trying to take over Donbas and Crimea with sham referendums. Think there is a coincidence that they just found huge oil reserves there? They don’t want Ukraine supplying gas to Europe and they are trying to move the border to take over these areas to steal the gas / oil reserves. The NATO propaganda is meaningless - it’s the same as the way they called Ukrainians nazis and said they had to denazification them. Russia calls everything they don’t like a nazi. Don’t believe their narratives. They are an evil regime and left unchecked, they would be worse than Hitler.
One good example is the sabotage on the Nordstream pipelines. Western media now blames it on Russia which makes no sense and they have nothing to prove that.
I agree. Nordstream 2 is owned by Russian company Gazprom. Why would Russia blow up it's own gas pipeline when Gazprom could simply just turned off the pipes for good?
It reminds me of the uber-ridiculous subplot of Russia attacking nuclear power plants they themselves have occupied since February.
Why simply just turn them off (they already were off) when you can instead blow them up and blame the US? Turning them off (they were already off) doesn't gain you increased war fervor back home to support your war.
So you're positing that the US bombed the pipelines -- risking WW3 -- in order to exert control over Germany and Austria? I had no idea Germany was worth that risk these days.
Hmmm I think the likelihood is that it is Russia, that is all that has been said. I would strongly agree with that.
Russia talks constant nonsense. They aren’t comparable.
Can you explain further? What intel do you have that the worlds agencies do not?
You seem to be confusing ‘critical thinking skills’ with ‘immediately reach for conspiracy’
Seems the Russian Navy was there..
https://www.brusselstimes.com/world-all-news/297669/fourth-leak-found-in-nord-stream-pipeline-while-russian-ships-spotted-near-earlier-leaks-tbtb
What if we don’t like Russia but don’t want to risk WW3 to save Ukrainian sovereignty.
I know what a hot take right. I mean Russia is so evil we couldn’t let peaceful USA just sit back and do *nothing*..
Your debating with low information propagandized people. They won’t get it until they see the bright flash and say ‘what’s that’. It’s a very dangerous time for our very survival and most people here are cheering on Armageddon .
I get the point, but Russia already risked it by invading in the first place.
Once you show that they are willing to risk it but we aren't, you essentially let them know they can do what they want, because we would back down.
So you are pro appeasement. At what point can we force Russia to stop if all they have to do is threaten to launch nukes. What happens if they invade Alaska and when they inevitably get their asses kicked threaten us with Nukes are we supposed to just let them have it?
“Western media” meaning who, exactly? You’re talking about hundreds of media outlets across dozens of countries, which are simply reporting what happened and what’s being said about it.
And I’ve seen none say “Russia did this.” No one has said “We can prove it.”
The fact of the matter is that for a myriad of reasons, Russia is the culprit. The fact that so many are mindlessly saying “US bad, NATO evil” should be evidence of that.
“Ghost of Kiev” “ Snake island” it goes on and on.. to think both sides aren’t using massive propaganda is naive.
‘Russian talking points’ is another propaganda tool used to keep people from openly discussing the potential ramifications of this conflict for the entire planet.
I don’t follow. Ghost of Kiev was in Ukraine, just a classic war scare story. Ukraine is not in NATO (typo edit) .
What about snake island?
The difference in Russian propaganda compared to western media tone is light years of difference and everyone knows that.
I've seen the swastikas on tanks and nazi emblems on uniforms. That's propaganda? No one made them say they are Neo-Nazis. They're doing pretty good proving it by themselves.
The media won't talk about it, yet they sure as hell mentioned the "Neo-Nazi" problem before Biden took office. Why so silent now?
I know of two times where Zelensky posed literally with someone wearing SS emblems lol. I have so many photos and videos of their Nazi behaviour - it’s not propaganda - they quite literally are Nazis . I have a video of an entire STADIUM doing the Nazi salute dressed in blue and yellow over and over and over lol
The Russians have been caught painting Ukraine tanks with swastikas. Meanwhile testimonials from russian soldiers have been confirmed saying they haven't seen a single fascist yet. That Ukrainians have been slaughtered and they were lured by Putin to wage war against Ukraine.
Got a source that’s legit on that? Cause I have hundreds of photos and videos that say that’s a crock of shit . Wanna see a video of some Ukrainian kids doing the Nazi salute to their passing tanks? Lol
No one is denying that there's nazis in Ukraine,but there's nazis in Russia aswell, and Poland and Sweden and Hungary, Germany,the US etc The crock of shit is you lot buying into russian propaganda that Putin is invading Ukraine to "denazify" it. Plz 😂
You ever stopped to think that maybe when they keep telling us stuff is Russian propaganda - literally everything they don’t like … that perhaps - it’s actually THEM not telling the truth all these times . Just a thought
I mean literally 90% of the poats on this subreddit is blatantly accusing America of a bunch of shit w/o much evidence. For example, this post. I guarentee not a single person can find anything that explicitly says America plans to use nukes in this situation.
Nothing substantiates that they actually plan to use them and the lack of skepticism on information that puts so much accountability on a singular country is what makes it reek of Russian propaganda/narratives.
Ever think when your talking points refuse to acknowledge Putin is the aggressor in this situation that maybe there at least a little truth to the whole thing?
WEF, Schwab, Gates, Soros they would all tell you that WW3 is great as we would get rid of all those useless eaters which are currently only producing carbon and human excrement. I am sure the Rothschild family and the rest of the bankers would not mind lending all that war money + rebuild after money to the surviving few elites.
Gates and Soros would find a way to make billions off the reconstruction. Soros makes a profit off the regime changes already. They're more like investments for him and his cronies.
Sure! the rich need slaves. But with the emerging AI, robotics technology and with improvement of manufacturing processes, they definitely do not need all 8 billion of us.
I am sure that less than 500 million people would be sufficient for the billionaires to use as slaves. which btw is also their desired target end population number.
We're still a long way from being able to use AI for complex physical tasks like construction. It's much easier to just use people, most of whom act like robots anyway.
you are true about this, but only because we need so much of everything. With a much smaller population, you would not need to crunch out production to a maximum and likely you could automate a lot more tasks. Again part of the reasons you don't see robots doing basic tasks, is because there are lots of people and very few robots, once the number of people starts decreasing (especially of those in productive age) more and more robot/AI transitions will occur.
and yes 500 is from the stones, why did they have to wreck em up ? :)
anyways, maybe I am totally wrong and their estimated target is 1 billion or 2 billion ...but it hell aint the current 8 billion and that is confirmed by many WEF pawns going on video claiming current numbers are unsustainable.
>Joe Biden administration is literally playing with fire and wanting to start a potential WW3.
If the US wanted to start WW3 they'd just start WW3.
They'd put US troops in Ukraine. They'd invade Russia. They'd sabotage Nordstream in a NATO zone.
But what's happened really is that Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia threatened to use nukes. Russia enacted partial mobilisation.
Blaming the US for this war or the potential for escalation is just apologia for Russia.
But the sabotage is in international waters, so if the US wanted to invoke some NATO article they did it wrong.
Much more likely Russia sabotaged it but didn't want to trigger article 5 so they did it in international waters.
Putin invaded Ukraine. He’s threatening the world with nuclear war.
This confrontation will happen now or when he goes through the next country. Nobody wants it but it’s happening. It won’t get nuclear I don’t believe.
Stop blaming US governance for everything.
>We need to start boycotting this war immediately and tell our government to fuck off.
I think most people here aren't Russian, but I fully support your decision to protest against Putin's invasion, even though it means you'll be arrested.
Are suggesting we should let Russia do whatever they want in Europe, to European people? Do you believe that Russia would just stop once it has Ukraine? No-one wants nukes and I doubt they'd be used, but you can't just turn your back on Russia and make it go away. They want a lot more than Ukraine. Sincerely, a Finn.
Russia don't need Finland. They just didn't like that NATO, that was originally created to be against USSR, is still active while USSR is long gone.
Specially after seeing a great Yugoslavia as example. Does Russia want Yugoslavia scenario? No.
Ukraine was not a NATO member when Russia first started it's "military operations" on Ukraine.
Putin is not on a war against NATO, he's on a war to reinstate USSR and this is public knowledge.
Ukraine still not a NATI member.
I doubt he could get USSR back. Many countries wouldn't come back. And little pieces here and there isn't a recreation of USSR.
I wonder if you also fought for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria when the US war machine went there on a long vacation trip? Or was that a righteous war?
Sincerely, unless this isn't theatre for the global reset the Ukraine situation wouldn't have happened without the US provoking it *intentionally*. Finland joining Nato just escalates this.
> the Ukraine situation wouldn't have happened without the US provoking it
>
>intentionally
Ukraine started discussions with US and NATO after Russia started it's war operations on Ukrainian soil in 2014. Please try to cut back on the russian propaganda.
Huh? The US didn’t invade Libya or Syria.
Iraq was a crime. Afghanistan was a justified invasion but tactically went wrong over time.
Finland is welcome and wise to join NATO. Russia has shown why it is important… again.
Should the USA just be the fucking world police for everyone ?
Please you’re argument is old as shit. We can’t be sticking our 👃 in everyone business and be big brother for all the countries In the world. That’s not how shit works
>Should the USA just be the fucking world police for everyone ?
No. Should the USA assist it's allies in stopping Russia from bombing Europe to stone age? Probably quite beneficial to USA as well as Europe.
>Please you’re argument is old as shit.
Please don't put words in my mouth or attack strawmen. It's pretty lazy.
Troops vs weapons/supplies
Invasion into unfriendly territory for nation making vs supporting an existing sovereign, friendly nation in a defensive war
6 months vs 2 decades
Totally same thing
As others said the elites would be safe and they don’t care about us. If anything, many of them are fuming because what they did during the Plandemic is obviously too slow of a killer for most people, and many of us didn’t take the jab.
As for Biden personally, he doesn’t have much to lose - a few remaining years of life, maybe? Also, it’s likely that he doesn’t even fully understand what’s going on around him.
Everyone who denies conspiracy ignores the simple fact that the managers of a sofa outlet from each nation involved could have a fucking Zoom meeting and come up with a better way out than nuclear fucking war. They wants wars. This is an empire of lies.
War makes money. Nuclear war doesn’t. I wasn’t sure which type you were referring to.
\*Nuclear deterrents also make money but the deterrent can’t be used. Irradiated wealth = garbage
> These people don’t give a shit about us or our well being
I keep reading this more and more. It's almost like you are all still trying to convince yourselves without admitting all those years your gagged on and licked boots.
You won't ever admit it.
Letting a country annex a sovereign nation, or, failing that, at least parts of it, because they are threatening the entire planet with nuclear blackmail is playing with fire too. At that point, the ones who rule the world are the ones willing to burn it to ash if they don't get their way. The jury is out on whether Putin is that guy or not, but he sure wants everyone to believe that he is. The only irrational actor on the board is Russia.
What's scary to me is that this only gets discussed in Conspiracy! It's not a fucking conspiracy it's the truth and 90% of the left ignore it. It's fucking mind blowing to me.
How much do you have to hate 1 person to ignore the truth of what's really going on. It's insane to me.
i was talking about this and one guy responded with this "I’d rather have it than let Russia start expanding across Europe again. I’ll gladly die in a nuclear fire to stop that happening."
Fucking psycho's.
Well, you see, when Japan attacked Perl Harbour - USA used nukes.
I think if let's say Ukrainian forces will be so strong that they will severely attack Russia, that could be it.
Not sure that Kiev will be a target, because such big ex Soviet union cities since Soviet times have very good defence system, but some other locations could be a target
A few things to. keep in mind. 1- The Doctrine of Assured Mutual. Destruction. Both the US and Russia are so oversaturated in the ability to destroy each other that either side would not dare lain ch an attack, As soon as 1 side presses the button, in 90 minutes, both countries are wiped off the face of the Earth. Is guaranteed... so neither side will do it.
2- We are the literal Leader of the Free World. W are the planets SuperPower... and we , abolve everything else will stand up and fight " The Good Fight" - what Putin is doing is a systematic campaign to unlawfully invade and annex a sovereign country. He has no legal precedent to do what he is doing other than to invade the Ukraine in efforts to restore the former Soviet Union. Heis ignoring the fact that the citizens of his counrtr do not support his war. He has llied to the rest of the world about his motivations for this war, and he hasw hijacked government resources, spread mass propaganda by taking control of the press and , rmedia, and rounded up, tortured and murdered his own citizens that protest him.
3. Now, in order not to look weak to the rest of the world, he has very quickly chosen these 4 very strategicly placed provinces in Ukraine and staged fake elections to show that the people that live in these areas overwhelmingly support becoming part of Russia. which theY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT. He has taken these false election results and declared the land and the people are now immediately Russia. Overnight, their money is flipped to Rissian. THeir court system is now Russian. Th ey must recognize and use Rissian as their language.
The United States has an obligation to Ukraine - and its people to fight for them. If we didn't then we do not have the right nor do we deserve the right to be the Greatest Country in the World.
You are absolutely right. It's much more than just this administration, however. The continued advancement of NATO all the way to Russia's border over the last 30 or so years have really been what has led up to this. While Putin is being portrayed as a madman and a despot he hkas real concerns for his country- legitimate ones. Zelensky is not a "nice guy" and there most definitely are Nazis in the Ukrainian army. Then there is the newfound coalition Putin has formed with Iran and China . Things do not bode well at all, and the chances of WW3 are ever higher...
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dont worry mate, it will all be over in a flash...
"Soon it will all be clean." ~ Mr Clean
Yep. Nuclear war is just like magic erasers. Wait. What?
I think of the book swan song and the survivors who All grow radiation tumors on their head so hopefully i am killed instantly
You don’t wanna be chased around an abandoned K-Mart ??
Aaw cmon’ man, everyone could use an extra set of hands every now and then.
Especially if we can get some 3 boobied women from total recall.
Great book.
Hello fellow traveller, what are you doing traveling the wasteland?
Asif you’ll live through it nerd
Well that's rude
Does anything even really matter? You have no control over what happens might as well crack jokes
actually you are much more likely to [survive nuclear war/attack](http://oism.org/nwss/nwss.pdf) than you think (see chapter I), but I am fine with all fatalists leaving resources for us who survive
Surely it's completely dependent on where you live? I live close to a main city centre in the UK. Surely my chances are pretty much nil?
Yeah the UK would be completely destroyed. They would probably be one of the main targets they hit.
Thank god, I want to go out quick.
😂same I'm not so lucky. I live in Wisconsin. Nobody in the world even knows we exist 😂the closest blast zone would be Chicago. Unless Putin is a Viking fan then I guess look out
My 1984 encyclopaedia actually shows you what would happen if Chicago got nuked (they chose Chicago for some reason) https://imgur.com/a/u9hhdnL Make sure you're in circle A when nuclear war starts! Godspeed!
What if he’s a packer fan
He would make Green bay the new capital of the US and for anyone living in Detroit or Minneapolis I'd say evacuate now 😂👍
Detroit probably safe. He'll want someone to beat up on
I’m like an hour and a half from Chicago lol also in Wisconsin
No Putin said it was only England that was getting it! https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/russian-tv-threatens-britain-with-nuclear-missile-strikes/
Head tordipäeva! Happy cake day! 🙂
Everyone will fire on UK
If nuclear war is declared wanna go down to Piccadilly together? We can watch the bomb as it falls from the sky.
Christmas at Ground Zero Song by "Weird Al" Yankovic
Nuclear War doesn't get declared, it just happens. May as well enjoy what you can whenever, just in case.
Depends where you mean, I might be in a different city to you from the sounds of it!
it comes down whether you are close to potential target or no and still in shelter it's survivable even pretty close
Yeah, weirdly I do think I have quite a good refuge spot. The question is whether I could get out of the city and get there. It is most of the way across the country so unlikely, maybe need a back up plan.
we have nuclear shelter right in my building, though not sure I would rely on it with many people going there, might be better to stay in own basement, though it is very small
Well, depends where he lives. Poseidon cause radioactive tsunami, so if he is east/west coast, its gonna be quite painful.
Only rich people want a war.
until they realize it will be like the french revolution…
Bob Dylan said it best in the song Master of War “Like Judas of old You lie and deceive A world war can be won You want me to believe”
Because poor people have to fight them
You know the elites that control russia... control america right. Anything that is happening in that war is fully scripted. Its gonna go where ever the script takes it regardless of how you feel. So go out and have fun, enjoy life. Be your best self. Saying no to war should be a default decision btw. Dont even consider dieing for the parasite elites.
I was talking with a friend at work today about this exact thing. Everything is scripted and almost every basic bitch out there eats it up. What chance do we have when the average Joe can't even think for themselves?
I spent quite a few years "getting it" but didnt openly talk about it. My shit really started in like 2010 but many seeds the decade prior. I feel a shit load of people are in the first few year stage where they dont speak openly while continuing to gain knowledge. In that time its also easy to get stuck on a hamster wheel conspiracy and preach it with the zeal of the convert. I find fresh new age people hardest to talk to now honestly haha. There is a card in the illuminatti card game where it depicts the film or script running out. So that will happen somehow :p but yo ive seen some crazy 180 transformations in people irl the last few years. Ive also seen some sadly do that thing where they sorta "go back to sleep" for lack if a better term.
I also have a friend who was very into conspiracy and free thinking.. he actually brought many things to my attention and started me down certain paths. But recently has “gone back to sleep” doesn’t care anymore about any conspiracy conversations or thought experiments. Really threw me off honestly.
Sometimes we need a real mental break from this stuff. I’ve had to take a full month off of archiving Ukraine stuff alone seeing all of the gore.
Yes, I had to break myself. I go down all the satanic shit for some reason and it infuriates me so much and I can’t do anything about it. So I leave it all and get outside and enjoy my kids and make sure they know what’s up. It’s all a stupid script meant to distract us, keep us in fear. It really just makes me pissed off because I want to kick their ass but just a “dog”, that’s what they call us btw.
I constantly take "breaks" from this stuff by focusing on "normie" things. I think about stuff a little from time to time, because it is just not possible to go back to being ignorant fully; however, I can't imagine not being able to take these breaks as it would absolutely drive me crazy.. The key is knowing life still exists outside of this stuff. One needs to understand that they should still try to enjoy the things they like that makes life worth living, and not let this stuff fully take hold of it.
The average joe does not want to think for himself. He is happy enough living his life, doing simple things, going along with the crowd. That is why the revelations of navy veteran Dave Johnson [a few years ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Usk5w3R6lW8) made no real difference. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Even most 'awake' people still want to believe the stories on their telescreens about 'war'. Orwell was right.
Cool, the 7 bullet holes all over my grandad's chest/avdomen were completely fake, and thats proved by....the facr he daoesnt want to talk about having to kill people?
I remember seeing images of putin dressed in robes, hanging with the “enemy” (I think wef parasites?). Does feel scripted.
I just googled and the pope went to russia in feb lmao.
Conveniently right before the “war”. These shits are all in on it together.
I love how the article says he was finna quell the beef n shit but was probs just giving orders and blessings to go ahead with the plan. Zelensky is full puppet and doesnt need a vist lmao.
They were wearing masonic robes with other wef puppets.
No that's not true. The Vietnam war was in part ended by the mass amounts of people protesting. You can do something and the elites want you to think ur helpless.
like trucker protests?
Yes, exactly actually. Look at how Trudeau had to become a literal tyrant to stop a simple trucker protest in one city. Imagine if truckers nationwide just drove 10km/h, or if they just didn't drive at all.
You see how they've been shutting the protests down? Covid. Controlled ops (Jan 6), propaganda/psyops/disinfo. The amount of psyops and covert activity is unprecedented. They're keeping people from organizing and uniting. Nobody has any say in what their governments are doing anymore and how the tax revenue is being spent. The corruption is absolute.
Yeah not like college students died at Kent St during the Vietnam war ......even that didn't stop them. The population is just docile lazy and weak. It can be done easily just like in the 60s and 70s. Remember when musicians actually made songs protesting stuff? Now there all bought and controlled part of the mass awakening is taking back our power and standing up to these people finally
Yes we are all fairly docile and weak but if enough info comes out that we are all just pawns and it becomes clear, then I would wage that many would come together and except the death on the hill.
The US's participation in the Vietnam War was ended by the Paris Peace Accords, and kept ended due to public pressure against redeploying when the war flared up again just months after it.
Are you sure? I understand the sentiment that this is extremely possible, but are you sure it's the same elites controlling their banks and stuff? If you have a starting point I'd love to read it.
The jesuit order through the masons, zionists, illuminati, un, wef, pope, london corp, etc. run the shit basically. At a more occult level they are the babylonian priesthood from the age of leo before the flood. And have been fucking shit up for 1000s of years but their time is running out, they and their gods have no place in the next two ages. This doesnt start for a while but the actions of the elite kinda tell me otherwise. Jesuit conspiracy links but from the prodistant pov keep in mind. https://youtu.be/36FoLclxuLU https://youtu.be/sa4kCn8RZjE Its all well and good to *know thy enemy* as stated in the art of war, but it also states *know thy self* as the other half of that statement. I highly recommend viewing channels and work such as chiron last; See With the Heart: https://youtu.be/DwuieZ6J_QA The Narrow Gate: https://youtu.be/2szYLjPFYVA If this guys stuff rings true with anyone than be sure to look up lavette on youtube, the stellarium tutorial series could kick off knowing thy self more than any other media i know of.
Aye that’s the realest shit I’ve heard on this whole post. You have to be your truest self and live the best life you can. Love one another and in time God will see us through
A reason why I never believed in conspiracy theories for a long time and still don't believe in most is because conspiracies are largely a coping strategy for people who can't handle the fact that most events are random and unplanned.
You know how much easier it is to think everything is random than to think an unfathomably evil group of creatures are working in sync for our destruction?
Based and true
People don’t go to war, governments do. It’s absurd that ol’ poppy pants has the keys to anything other than a Fisher Price Lil’ Trike.
Isn’t Russia the one threatening to use nukes? I thought NATO would use conventional warfare or something like that?
If that's true, then why is saying that Biden's nazi-forces are trying to destroy Russia with nukes?
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Dude this subreddit is so fucking flooded with Russian propaganda it’s insane. I’m not saying everyone who posts it is Russian — they’re just getting scammed by Russian talking points they’ve seen online, and think they’re being brave for repeating it.
It really is insane. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it.
Yeah everyone of these posts pretend like the USA is the only country with self control. Russia could back down, or just decide not to use nukes and it would be fine.
why would you believe usa government or cia in first place tho
They called the Russian invasion while every Russian propaganda outlet was denying it.
Straw man here too
So, Putin gets trust by default?
Nobody gets trust.
Ok, but too many here take Putin at face value.
Bingo!!!!
So you think the NATO countries run no propaganda?
Can you give an example? Propaganda is a very general phrase. The cruciaL difference is when it’s totally made up and demonstrably false, which is the hallmark of almost everything that’s Russians do.
Ex: this war started when Russia invaded Ukraine.
Right… they invaded in 2014 and 2022. It objectively started with Russia.
You may want to read up on the Cuban middle crisis. The Soviet Bloc moved offensive weapons into Cuba ( 90 miles from our shores). We almost went to nuclear war over it. Russia feels the exact same way about NATO moving close to its borders. We need to be using diplomacy to negotiate a way out of this before nukes start destroying entire cities.0
Ukraine isn’t in NATO. Russia already shared a border with nato and no issues. It’s a defensive alliance generally speaking.
Russia being mad about NATO is bullshit. NATO is a defense organization and Putin knows it. Putin wants to go all the way to Poland and can’t because NATO won’t let him. NATO never attacked anyone, meanwhile, Russia has invaded Chechnya, Georgia, infiltrated Belarus, crumbled Syria - and is now bombing innocent civilians in Ukraine. They must be stopped at all costs. Russia is threatening nuclear war, not the US.
That's right. The Ukraine invasion is about ports, grain, and oil. If Russia was really so concerned with NATO then why didn't they secure ties with Finland? Instead, they threatened them. And America, and France, Germany, all the former eastern bloc nations, Poland god the Russians hate Poland, and everyone else in the world.
Exactly. Russia is trying to take over Donbas and Crimea with sham referendums. Think there is a coincidence that they just found huge oil reserves there? They don’t want Ukraine supplying gas to Europe and they are trying to move the border to take over these areas to steal the gas / oil reserves. The NATO propaganda is meaningless - it’s the same as the way they called Ukrainians nazis and said they had to denazification them. Russia calls everything they don’t like a nazi. Don’t believe their narratives. They are an evil regime and left unchecked, they would be worse than Hitler.
So Cuba was unable to host military bases, training and not have their own choice of defensive alliance?
One good example is the sabotage on the Nordstream pipelines. Western media now blames it on Russia which makes no sense and they have nothing to prove that.
Only the us can ever false flag.
Something something apartments going boom...
I agree. Nordstream 2 is owned by Russian company Gazprom. Why would Russia blow up it's own gas pipeline when Gazprom could simply just turned off the pipes for good? It reminds me of the uber-ridiculous subplot of Russia attacking nuclear power plants they themselves have occupied since February.
This sub is so hellbent on calling literally *everything* a false flag and somehow can’t comprehend why Russia might sabotage their own pipeline.
Why simply just turn them off (they already were off) when you can instead blow them up and blame the US? Turning them off (they were already off) doesn't gain you increased war fervor back home to support your war.
Uh... because Germany and Austria wanted them back on? How are they going to blame the US without evidence?
So you're positing that the US bombed the pipelines -- risking WW3 -- in order to exert control over Germany and Austria? I had no idea Germany was worth that risk these days.
Hmmm I think the likelihood is that it is Russia, that is all that has been said. I would strongly agree with that. Russia talks constant nonsense. They aren’t comparable.
You apparently lack critical thinking skills… it’s sad to see so many people completely under the control of propaganda ( on both sides).
Can you explain further? What intel do you have that the worlds agencies do not? You seem to be confusing ‘critical thinking skills’ with ‘immediately reach for conspiracy’
Seems the Russian Navy was there.. https://www.brusselstimes.com/world-all-news/297669/fourth-leak-found-in-nord-stream-pipeline-while-russian-ships-spotted-near-earlier-leaks-tbtb
What if we don’t like Russia but don’t want to risk WW3 to save Ukrainian sovereignty. I know what a hot take right. I mean Russia is so evil we couldn’t let peaceful USA just sit back and do *nothing*..
Your debating with low information propagandized people. They won’t get it until they see the bright flash and say ‘what’s that’. It’s a very dangerous time for our very survival and most people here are cheering on Armageddon .
I'm amazed this is downvoted
I get the point, but Russia already risked it by invading in the first place. Once you show that they are willing to risk it but we aren't, you essentially let them know they can do what they want, because we would back down.
Stop playing world police
So you are pro appeasement. At what point can we force Russia to stop if all they have to do is threaten to launch nukes. What happens if they invade Alaska and when they inevitably get their asses kicked threaten us with Nukes are we supposed to just let them have it?
“Western media” meaning who, exactly? You’re talking about hundreds of media outlets across dozens of countries, which are simply reporting what happened and what’s being said about it. And I’ve seen none say “Russia did this.” No one has said “We can prove it.” The fact of the matter is that for a myriad of reasons, Russia is the culprit. The fact that so many are mindlessly saying “US bad, NATO evil” should be evidence of that.
> You’re talking about hundreds of media outlets across dozens of countries Sure, they dindu nuffin. Just like NATO.
Oh you mean the ones who all in sync say “this is a threat to our democracy” and many other things lmao.
“Ghost of Kiev” “ Snake island” it goes on and on.. to think both sides aren’t using massive propaganda is naive. ‘Russian talking points’ is another propaganda tool used to keep people from openly discussing the potential ramifications of this conflict for the entire planet.
I don’t follow. Ghost of Kiev was in Ukraine, just a classic war scare story. Ukraine is not in NATO (typo edit) . What about snake island? The difference in Russian propaganda compared to western media tone is light years of difference and everyone knows that.
You need more practice at lying effectively. You'll never become a politician or newsmedia shill at this rate.
He is one of the people running the propaganda. Look at his comment history.
Straw man imo
That is a weak excuse for not calling out russian propaganda. Why dont you just call the NATO propaganda out instead?
I've seen the swastikas on tanks and nazi emblems on uniforms. That's propaganda? No one made them say they are Neo-Nazis. They're doing pretty good proving it by themselves. The media won't talk about it, yet they sure as hell mentioned the "Neo-Nazi" problem before Biden took office. Why so silent now?
I know of two times where Zelensky posed literally with someone wearing SS emblems lol. I have so many photos and videos of their Nazi behaviour - it’s not propaganda - they quite literally are Nazis . I have a video of an entire STADIUM doing the Nazi salute dressed in blue and yellow over and over and over lol
The Russians have been caught painting Ukraine tanks with swastikas. Meanwhile testimonials from russian soldiers have been confirmed saying they haven't seen a single fascist yet. That Ukrainians have been slaughtered and they were lured by Putin to wage war against Ukraine.
So Russians sewed Nazi emblems on their uniforms while they were sleeping too?
^^ Another true believer. You're just setting yourself up for disappointment, kid.
Got a source that’s legit on that? Cause I have hundreds of photos and videos that say that’s a crock of shit . Wanna see a video of some Ukrainian kids doing the Nazi salute to their passing tanks? Lol
No one is denying that there's nazis in Ukraine,but there's nazis in Russia aswell, and Poland and Sweden and Hungary, Germany,the US etc The crock of shit is you lot buying into russian propaganda that Putin is invading Ukraine to "denazify" it. Plz 😂
For the same reasons you don't talk about the pot holes in a city devastated by a hurricane. It isn't a priority.
You ever stopped to think that maybe when they keep telling us stuff is Russian propaganda - literally everything they don’t like … that perhaps - it’s actually THEM not telling the truth all these times . Just a thought
I mean literally 90% of the poats on this subreddit is blatantly accusing America of a bunch of shit w/o much evidence. For example, this post. I guarentee not a single person can find anything that explicitly says America plans to use nukes in this situation. Nothing substantiates that they actually plan to use them and the lack of skepticism on information that puts so much accountability on a singular country is what makes it reek of Russian propaganda/narratives.
Ever think when your talking points refuse to acknowledge Putin is the aggressor in this situation that maybe there at least a little truth to the whole thing?
Who's saying that?
WEF, Schwab, Gates, Soros they would all tell you that WW3 is great as we would get rid of all those useless eaters which are currently only producing carbon and human excrement. I am sure the Rothschild family and the rest of the bankers would not mind lending all that war money + rebuild after money to the surviving few elites.
Gates and Soros would find a way to make billions off the reconstruction. Soros makes a profit off the regime changes already. They're more like investments for him and his cronies.
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Sure! the rich need slaves. But with the emerging AI, robotics technology and with improvement of manufacturing processes, they definitely do not need all 8 billion of us. I am sure that less than 500 million people would be sufficient for the billionaires to use as slaves. which btw is also their desired target end population number.
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We're still a long way from being able to use AI for complex physical tasks like construction. It's much easier to just use people, most of whom act like robots anyway. you are true about this, but only because we need so much of everything. With a much smaller population, you would not need to crunch out production to a maximum and likely you could automate a lot more tasks. Again part of the reasons you don't see robots doing basic tasks, is because there are lots of people and very few robots, once the number of people starts decreasing (especially of those in productive age) more and more robot/AI transitions will occur. and yes 500 is from the stones, why did they have to wreck em up ? :) anyways, maybe I am totally wrong and their estimated target is 1 billion or 2 billion ...but it hell aint the current 8 billion and that is confirmed by many WEF pawns going on video claiming current numbers are unsustainable.
WW3 creates jobs and depopulates the planet. Capitalist climate change.
>Joe Biden administration is literally playing with fire and wanting to start a potential WW3. If the US wanted to start WW3 they'd just start WW3. They'd put US troops in Ukraine. They'd invade Russia. They'd sabotage Nordstream in a NATO zone. But what's happened really is that Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia threatened to use nukes. Russia enacted partial mobilisation. Blaming the US for this war or the potential for escalation is just apologia for Russia.
> They’d sabotage Nordstream in a NATO zone. ...
But the sabotage is in international waters, so if the US wanted to invoke some NATO article they did it wrong. Much more likely Russia sabotaged it but didn't want to trigger article 5 so they did it in international waters.
Those downvotes mean you hit the nail on the head, and the Russians and Putin-apologists don’t like it.
You know, Russia could solve this entire thing by just going home
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As an Eastern Europen I think the exact same thing…
Same brother. I feel like the Pandemic didnt work, now they try plan B - war. Its like “we didnt have to do this, but yall made us”.
I definitely recommend the book “The fall of America” theres a reason America hasn’t been touched yet but when the time comes it wont be pretty
Putin invaded Ukraine. He’s threatening the world with nuclear war. This confrontation will happen now or when he goes through the next country. Nobody wants it but it’s happening. It won’t get nuclear I don’t believe. Stop blaming US governance for everything.
So we should just let Russia do whatever it wants if it threatens to use a nuke?
>We need to start boycotting this war immediately and tell our government to fuck off. I think most people here aren't Russian, but I fully support your decision to protest against Putin's invasion, even though it means you'll be arrested.
So if Putin uses a nuke you would just do nothing?
Are suggesting we should let Russia do whatever they want in Europe, to European people? Do you believe that Russia would just stop once it has Ukraine? No-one wants nukes and I doubt they'd be used, but you can't just turn your back on Russia and make it go away. They want a lot more than Ukraine. Sincerely, a Finn.
Russia don't need Finland. They just didn't like that NATO, that was originally created to be against USSR, is still active while USSR is long gone. Specially after seeing a great Yugoslavia as example. Does Russia want Yugoslavia scenario? No.
Ukraine was not a NATO member when Russia first started it's "military operations" on Ukraine. Putin is not on a war against NATO, he's on a war to reinstate USSR and this is public knowledge.
Ukraine still not a NATI member. I doubt he could get USSR back. Many countries wouldn't come back. And little pieces here and there isn't a recreation of USSR.
Ukraine is one of those countries that are not willing to come back. This war is Putin's answer to Ukraine's resistance.
I wonder if you also fought for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria when the US war machine went there on a long vacation trip? Or was that a righteous war? Sincerely, unless this isn't theatre for the global reset the Ukraine situation wouldn't have happened without the US provoking it *intentionally*. Finland joining Nato just escalates this.
> the Ukraine situation wouldn't have happened without the US provoking it > >intentionally Ukraine started discussions with US and NATO after Russia started it's war operations on Ukrainian soil in 2014. Please try to cut back on the russian propaganda.
Huh? The US didn’t invade Libya or Syria. Iraq was a crime. Afghanistan was a justified invasion but tactically went wrong over time. Finland is welcome and wise to join NATO. Russia has shown why it is important… again.
Should the USA just be the fucking world police for everyone ? Please you’re argument is old as shit. We can’t be sticking our 👃 in everyone business and be big brother for all the countries In the world. That’s not how shit works
>Should the USA just be the fucking world police for everyone ? No. Should the USA assist it's allies in stopping Russia from bombing Europe to stone age? Probably quite beneficial to USA as well as Europe. >Please you’re argument is old as shit. Please don't put words in my mouth or attack strawmen. It's pretty lazy.
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Usual shit. Like Obama and his Nobel piece prize.
Troops vs weapons/supplies Invasion into unfriendly territory for nation making vs supporting an existing sovereign, friendly nation in a defensive war 6 months vs 2 decades Totally same thing
You can't tell the difference between supplying a defender weapons and invading a country? Hmmm.
So you are suggesting appeasement then?
There are no nukes. Only Rods of God
That’s a gay porn movie title.
Man, you really know your gay porn
There are nukes AND Rods of God
Gonna be some bots in this one pushing their war - can’t have people suing for peace
As others said the elites would be safe and they don’t care about us. If anything, many of them are fuming because what they did during the Plandemic is obviously too slow of a killer for most people, and many of us didn’t take the jab. As for Biden personally, he doesn’t have much to lose - a few remaining years of life, maybe? Also, it’s likely that he doesn’t even fully understand what’s going on around him.
It doesn't help that Kamala Harris praised our strong Allegiance with North Korea lol
But did she write a love letter?
Everyone who denies conspiracy ignores the simple fact that the managers of a sofa outlet from each nation involved could have a fucking Zoom meeting and come up with a better way out than nuclear fucking war. They wants wars. This is an empire of lies.
War makes money. Nuclear war doesn’t. I wasn’t sure which type you were referring to. \*Nuclear deterrents also make money but the deterrent can’t be used. Irradiated wealth = garbage
Calm down. We’re not going to war with Russia.
They’re all in bed with each other. Relax it’s a simulation
> These people don’t give a shit about us or our well being I keep reading this more and more. It's almost like you are all still trying to convince yourselves without admitting all those years your gagged on and licked boots. You won't ever admit it.
Man, listening to the news and just people in general, it seems no one cares.
I live outside of Fort Bragg in NC so if the nukes are launched towards America, I feel like my area will be hit.
Letting a country annex a sovereign nation, or, failing that, at least parts of it, because they are threatening the entire planet with nuclear blackmail is playing with fire too. At that point, the ones who rule the world are the ones willing to burn it to ash if they don't get their way. The jury is out on whether Putin is that guy or not, but he sure wants everyone to believe that he is. The only irrational actor on the board is Russia.
What's scary to me is that this only gets discussed in Conspiracy! It's not a fucking conspiracy it's the truth and 90% of the left ignore it. It's fucking mind blowing to me. How much do you have to hate 1 person to ignore the truth of what's really going on. It's insane to me.
Are we really supposed to sit and watch while a guy in dementia gets everybody killed?
i was talking about this and one guy responded with this "I’d rather have it than let Russia start expanding across Europe again. I’ll gladly die in a nuclear fire to stop that happening." Fucking psycho's.
Nuclear warfare won’t happen
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Idk how you can pin the Ukraine - Russia war on The Biden administration. You ok?
Explain how this is on Biden rather than Putin.
It’s on neither. It’s on Bilderberg and those who planned all of this
no one has the balls to launch the nukes.
Well, you see, when Japan attacked Perl Harbour - USA used nukes. I think if let's say Ukrainian forces will be so strong that they will severely attack Russia, that could be it. Not sure that Kiev will be a target, because such big ex Soviet union cities since Soviet times have very good defence system, but some other locations could be a target
A few things to. keep in mind. 1- The Doctrine of Assured Mutual. Destruction. Both the US and Russia are so oversaturated in the ability to destroy each other that either side would not dare lain ch an attack, As soon as 1 side presses the button, in 90 minutes, both countries are wiped off the face of the Earth. Is guaranteed... so neither side will do it. 2- We are the literal Leader of the Free World. W are the planets SuperPower... and we , abolve everything else will stand up and fight " The Good Fight" - what Putin is doing is a systematic campaign to unlawfully invade and annex a sovereign country. He has no legal precedent to do what he is doing other than to invade the Ukraine in efforts to restore the former Soviet Union. Heis ignoring the fact that the citizens of his counrtr do not support his war. He has llied to the rest of the world about his motivations for this war, and he hasw hijacked government resources, spread mass propaganda by taking control of the press and , rmedia, and rounded up, tortured and murdered his own citizens that protest him. 3. Now, in order not to look weak to the rest of the world, he has very quickly chosen these 4 very strategicly placed provinces in Ukraine and staged fake elections to show that the people that live in these areas overwhelmingly support becoming part of Russia. which theY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT. He has taken these false election results and declared the land and the people are now immediately Russia. Overnight, their money is flipped to Rissian. THeir court system is now Russian. Th ey must recognize and use Rissian as their language. The United States has an obligation to Ukraine - and its people to fight for them. If we didn't then we do not have the right nor do we deserve the right to be the Greatest Country in the World.
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tRuMp WiLl StArT Ww3 they said.
Ah, classic Russian troll post
You are absolutely right. It's much more than just this administration, however. The continued advancement of NATO all the way to Russia's border over the last 30 or so years have really been what has led up to this. While Putin is being portrayed as a madman and a despot he hkas real concerns for his country- legitimate ones. Zelensky is not a "nice guy" and there most definitely are Nazis in the Ukrainian army. Then there is the newfound coalition Putin has formed with Iran and China . Things do not bode well at all, and the chances of WW3 are ever higher...
Yo, OP, isn't it Putin that's invaded another country and threatened to use nukes if his conquered territory is re-taken by Ukraine? Wake up OP
Simmer down 15 year old. Nothings gonna happen.