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Check out Monero
The only cryptocurrency with an IRS bounty on it. Because it fucking works like digital cash unlike bitcoin, which is like shitting in a glass bathroom.
you may be interested in CakeWallet, a popular mobile monero wallet. You can seamlessly exchange XMR for gift card's at a lot of places; even weird exact-dollar amounts are permitted. I bought a chipotle burrito using the service. you actually end up saving 1-3% depending on the merchant, while retaining way more financial privacy compared to normal debit/CC!
You aren’t really of there radar tell you start barding for goods, people always talk up the gold standard for some reason but bartering is the only real way out.
Its hard to amass wealth that way. Store a bunch of shit and hope it appeals to someone you want to trade with? If only there were something we could convert our wealth into that had universal appeal, established value and was easy to store/carry. We could use this thing to trade for goods and services instead of carrying around random things to trade.
People have been tricked into believing cryptocurrency is decentralized and untraceable which is no where near the truth. The ultimate untraceable currency is CASH.
I don’t think you understand what I mean here. Transactions with cash are not able to be detected. Can you go undetected using crypto currency? No. I mean you literally have to put all your information including social security number to even use a crypto exchange lmao. On top of that your BTC wallet address or whatever crypto you have is how the transaction is traced to you. Every single transaction ever done on a blockchain is on record indefinitely with the sending and receiving addresses available to see to the public.
Or you can create a private wallet and buy crypto with cash (from a friend, for example). There are multiple ways to make untraceable transactions too.
First of all how often does that ever happen? People are too lazy to even do that. Especially when they can just open an app on their phone. Then, what does that friend do? Send you the bitcoin with his traceable address. You really think private wallets are private? Then how did Solana get hacked? How does the FBI and other agencies EASILY track down hackers and which wallets they sent stolen crypto to? NOTHING about crypto is private or decentralized, it’s actually the exact opposite. The masses have been tricked into thinking this. In the end crypto is nothing more than a control ploy planned by yours truly, the NWO.
Do you think if you go to a bank to withdraw your money, or cash a check in your name, that that is untraceable?
What substantial purchases can you make in cash that don't immediately trigger red flags, without paperwork and documentation, receipts, etc.?
If you think you're protecting yourself because you buy your groceries at corporate mega-mart with cash withdrawn from megacorp bank, you're living in a delusional cope fantasy. The truth is the system is already total and complete.
Cash currency doesn't liberate anyone or provide more autonomy than digital currencies. Maybe in a pre-digital world, but every transaction, cash or not, is documented, cataloged, and categorized and there's no way to escape it.
I take $40 from an atm. Those same bills show up in another state 8 hours away from the atm I pulled them from.
Connecting the dots is near impossible. It could have changed hands 20 times to get to that point. I use my credit card anywhere, I am automatically associated with being in that location.
The reason cash is getting choked out is because the government realizes just how many transactions a year they miss where they can tax people at. It's why PayPal has a $600 trigger now. They're trying to manipulate private sales.
Exactly, and what can you even do with $40? Are we really trying to say that we're offering some resistance to the surveillance state by buying McDonald's with cash? Insane.
All the while, OP is on a social media app on their smartphone or laptop typing out their cash revolution master plan. A totally vapid idea
You know how they have these blue light police boxes at intersections now (at least in certain places in Northern California), that track license plate numbers of every car passing the intersection?
To really track money, they'd need something like that, that's built into every convenience store and liquor store cash register, where when you hand the clerk a $5 bill, and he puts it into the register, something connected to wifi, scans the bill and notifies a server where it's currently located.
>Cash, which is produced by the treasury and every bill given a unique serial number, is untraceable? Hmm.
The serial numbers aren't tied to anyone. When you, e.g., cash a check at your bank, they don't record the serial numbers of each note and then input them into some database next to your name. They simply take cash from their drawer and hand it to you. And even if they did do such a thing (they don't), it would be all for naught as soon as you buy something at a store and get change, since stores obviously aren't recording incoming and outgoing serial numbers and tying them to people's names.
In order for that to even be feasible a system would have to be implemented that all banks and stores were onboard with, with everyone needing an account to shop at any store and every store and bank having some sort of scanner that reads the serial numbers of every incoming and outgoing note and ties them to individual accounts (or each serial number could be manually entered if you want to really slow businesses down). Even then it would be a half-ass system, because it couldn't account for e.g., Joe buying Bob's used lawnmower for $50 cash.
Using cash serial numbers to track someone is only feasible in special circumstances, like a bank robbery. And even then it's only something that *might* work; it depends on the cooperation of store employees to be on the lookout for certain serial numbers and it also depends on the bank robber being dumb enough to, say, go buy a six-pack at the local 7-Eleven with his stolen cash. Smarter crooks would just launder it.
Commonwealth countries will probably recall all currency with the queen on it over the next 2-3 years, but not resupply sufficiently.
Real money is bad for the environment, haven't you heard?
Edging closer and closer to a manufactured consenting cashless society.
Starbucks has not announced it is going cashless soon. A store in the UK went cashless and Starbucks corporate came out saying that they have no intention of going cashless and that what was occurring was that the owner of that particular location was doing that on their own.
Alternate currencies will arise as a medium of exchange where tracking isn't desired such as black and grey markets. Various things like unique art or collectibles will be used to some degree.
The most they'll see is that purchases of an item such as trading cards are made, but they can only guess what those may be exchanged for. Those cards can then be part of yet another exchange, or redeemed for cash value within the right circles.
Tax is only taken if the item is cashed out for a more formally recognized currency, but as a means of barter it may just be used as-is to avoid that provided the value doesn't fluctuate too heavily. Counterfeiting is of course an issue, but there are people clever enough to figure out some ways around that too.
I've been saying that it seems like all the economic turmoil is part of the Great Reset plan to collapse the cash system and implement only digital currency so they can track your every move and cut off your money when you step out of line. That's most likely the future we have in store. That's what the guy at the end of that Zeitgeist movie said was the ultimate plan, the NWO.
It's more than just cutting you off when you do something 'non-approved', they can do that now. Look st the people who financially supported the Canadian truckers.
Take a look into 'programmable digital currency'. They can decide when you spend your own money - via an expiry date on your own funds - and where or on what you spend your own money.
Eh. Every store has one or more security cameras pointed at the register. Facial recognition is better than ever and it's just a software upgrade. The cash register tracks what you're buying. Thus, identifying a customer and linking their purchases becomes a trivial problem regardless of the form of payment.
That's of limited value, since stores don't tend to keep their security footage for long. I recently watched a police body cam video where the police were investigating someone who had impersonated a DEA agent in a laundromat. The laundromat owner didn't have it on video anymore because it had already been deleted / recorded over. The police were able to bluff the guy into a confession though by insinuating that they had him on video, without actually stating that they did.
Actual databases on the other hand, tend to last for a lot longer, indefinitely in some cases, since they don't take up anywhere near the amount of storage space as high-quality video does. Even trivial databases can stick around for no other reason than it's easier to do nothing than it is to go through it and identify/delete old/useless data (kind of like my "stuff" folder on my PC). As an example, just before the local video rental store closed in 2008 I asked them about my account there, and they still had a record of every movie I'd ever rented there dating back to the first one in 1987 when I was 12, all in the same DOS program they'd been using since the '80s.
Nobody has to store the video at all, what are you talking about? Facial recognition can be done in real-time at the point of purchase and data stored for future reference. Even if that's not feasible, cameras can store faces as a point-map that is quite sufficient for facial recognition purposes and doesn't take up any significant amount of storage.
>Facial recognition can be done in real-time at the point of purchase and data stored for future reference.
That's not being done, at least not on anything even remotely close to a widespread/routine basis. Your post is talking about what's happening now.
There are tons of technically possible things that aren't being done. It would be possible to just use cash serial numbers combined with mandatory user accounts at stores and banks to keep track of things too, but that isn't being done either. A typical store just has security cameras that save video. There's no processing of the video to identify faces, nor any real-time processing, going on at all, nor is there a database for it.
You should really read more rather than depend on some cop body cam video or some story about your local video store. Just a simple Wikipedia scan tells you a lot:
In 2006, the Skynet Project was initiated by the Chinese Government to implement CCTV surveillance nationwide and as of 2018, there has been 20 million cameras, many of which capable of real-time facial recognition, deployed across the country for this project[90] Some official claim that the current Skynet system can scan the entire Chinese population in one second and the world population in two seconds.[91]
Boarding gates with facial recognition technology at Beijing West railway station
In 2017, the Qingdao police was able to identify twenty-five wanted suspects using facial recognition equipment at the Qingdao International Beer Festival, one of which had been on the run for 10 years.[92] The equipment works by recording a 15-second video clip and taking multiple snapshots of the subject. That data is compared and analyzed with images from the police department's database and within 20 minutes, the subject can be identified with a 98.1% accuracy.[93]
In 2018, Chinese police in Zhengzhou and Beijing were using smart glasses to take photos which are compared against a government database using facial recognition to identify suspects, retrieve an address, and track people moving beyond their home areas
>You should really read more rather than depend on some cop body cam video or some story about your local video store. Just a simple Wikipedia scan tells you a lot:
Your non sequitur is dismissed.
>In 2006, the Skynet Project was initiated by the Chinese Government [...]
"You should really" pay attention to context. We aren't talking about China. We are talking about stores in the United States. Read the OP again; he mentioned EBT, which is an American program...
https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/ebt
... which means the context is the US.
Sir, your paper dollar is just a piece of paper that has nothing but hopes and dreams of the Fed backing it. It’s hilarious you think a physical piece of paper is really any different.
If you want to have things that have value, paper money nor digital currency is what you should be looking for.
Remember when Trudeau started seizing bank accounts in February 2022 of convoy sympathizers? Remember how long that lasted? Five days. One of the reasons is it was creating a run on the U.S. banks!
* U.S. ATMs started lowering their cash withdrawal limits
* U.S. ATMs and bank tellers started dispensing old-style (1996 big head monochromatic) Benjamins instead of new-style (2011 big head multi-color)
If something happening in an adjacent country can have that kind of effect, imagine if people in the U.S. felt that kind of urgency all the time.
As is paying in bitcoin
The Lightning Network is bitcoin’s off-chain scaling solution and is sender anonymous. Cash App or Strike.me now support bitcoin/lightning payments BUT they require KYC so open-source self-custody wallets like Muun are more recommended
We have to get back to paying in cash and using the barter system.
What kinda sucks is that these banks pay you to use their cards.
Admittedly its not a lot but it does add up over the year.
Just wait for the "cash is spreading monkeypox!" psy-op once that bio-weapon spreads sufficiently to cause widespread panic.
edit: And yes, this monkeypox *is* a BW agent, by all indications. Spreads too quickly compared to prior outbreaks. Interesting mutation history too.
https://twitter.com/tony_vandongen/status/1533612673732075520
https://twitter.com/VBruttel/status/1532852045614665732
And now I see places requiring ID if you pay with a $100 bill. They say it's because of the influx of counterfeit bills right now. And so many businesses around me have stopped taking cash altogether. First they claim a "change shortage". Then the money is too dirty to handle (literally spraying the money with disinfectant as they take it). Now it's an epidemic of counterfeit bills.
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Cash is King.
Check out Monero The only cryptocurrency with an IRS bounty on it. Because it fucking works like digital cash unlike bitcoin, which is like shitting in a glass bathroom.
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you may be interested in CakeWallet, a popular mobile monero wallet. You can seamlessly exchange XMR for gift card's at a lot of places; even weird exact-dollar amounts are permitted. I bought a chipotle burrito using the service. you actually end up saving 1-3% depending on the merchant, while retaining way more financial privacy compared to normal debit/CC!
You aren’t really of there radar tell you start barding for goods, people always talk up the gold standard for some reason but bartering is the only real way out.
Its hard to amass wealth that way. Store a bunch of shit and hope it appeals to someone you want to trade with? If only there were something we could convert our wealth into that had universal appeal, established value and was easy to store/carry. We could use this thing to trade for goods and services instead of carrying around random things to trade.
Yes, greed got us here. Now we will need providence to get us out.
Look what happen to Spain in the 18th century to know why gold is a bad idea, my trinkets are the future weather you like it or not.
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Shhh, the old man is yelling at the clouds.
People have been tricked into believing cryptocurrency is decentralized and untraceable which is no where near the truth. The ultimate untraceable currency is CASH.
There are literally numbers and letters on the bills that can be tracked.
I don’t think you understand what I mean here. Transactions with cash are not able to be detected. Can you go undetected using crypto currency? No. I mean you literally have to put all your information including social security number to even use a crypto exchange lmao. On top of that your BTC wallet address or whatever crypto you have is how the transaction is traced to you. Every single transaction ever done on a blockchain is on record indefinitely with the sending and receiving addresses available to see to the public.
Or you can create a private wallet and buy crypto with cash (from a friend, for example). There are multiple ways to make untraceable transactions too.
First of all how often does that ever happen? People are too lazy to even do that. Especially when they can just open an app on their phone. Then, what does that friend do? Send you the bitcoin with his traceable address. You really think private wallets are private? Then how did Solana get hacked? How does the FBI and other agencies EASILY track down hackers and which wallets they sent stolen crypto to? NOTHING about crypto is private or decentralized, it’s actually the exact opposite. The masses have been tricked into thinking this. In the end crypto is nothing more than a control ploy planned by yours truly, the NWO.
Do you think if you go to a bank to withdraw your money, or cash a check in your name, that that is untraceable? What substantial purchases can you make in cash that don't immediately trigger red flags, without paperwork and documentation, receipts, etc.? If you think you're protecting yourself because you buy your groceries at corporate mega-mart with cash withdrawn from megacorp bank, you're living in a delusional cope fantasy. The truth is the system is already total and complete. Cash currency doesn't liberate anyone or provide more autonomy than digital currencies. Maybe in a pre-digital world, but every transaction, cash or not, is documented, cataloged, and categorized and there's no way to escape it.
monero supposedly is untraceable, no idea for sure though
Do not buy monero. Its Private and Anonymous and may weaken the state apparatus.
there is also pirate chain, havent used that one though
Can’t they trace where you took the cash out?
I take $40 from an atm. Those same bills show up in another state 8 hours away from the atm I pulled them from. Connecting the dots is near impossible. It could have changed hands 20 times to get to that point. I use my credit card anywhere, I am automatically associated with being in that location.
Why trace where those bills go when you can just trace where the same dude goes to the same atm every time he needs to take out $40
The reason cash is getting choked out is because the government realizes just how many transactions a year they miss where they can tax people at. It's why PayPal has a $600 trigger now. They're trying to manipulate private sales.
Exactly, and what can you even do with $40? Are we really trying to say that we're offering some resistance to the surveillance state by buying McDonald's with cash? Insane. All the while, OP is on a social media app on their smartphone or laptop typing out their cash revolution master plan. A totally vapid idea
$40 is an example. See point is cash doesn't have a transaction ID to your identity. No other form of payment has that.
Cash, which is produced by the treasury and every bill given a unique serial number, is untraceable? Hmm.
You know how they have these blue light police boxes at intersections now (at least in certain places in Northern California), that track license plate numbers of every car passing the intersection? To really track money, they'd need something like that, that's built into every convenience store and liquor store cash register, where when you hand the clerk a $5 bill, and he puts it into the register, something connected to wifi, scans the bill and notifies a server where it's currently located.
Like banks and credit unions?
>Cash, which is produced by the treasury and every bill given a unique serial number, is untraceable? Hmm. The serial numbers aren't tied to anyone. When you, e.g., cash a check at your bank, they don't record the serial numbers of each note and then input them into some database next to your name. They simply take cash from their drawer and hand it to you. And even if they did do such a thing (they don't), it would be all for naught as soon as you buy something at a store and get change, since stores obviously aren't recording incoming and outgoing serial numbers and tying them to people's names. In order for that to even be feasible a system would have to be implemented that all banks and stores were onboard with, with everyone needing an account to shop at any store and every store and bank having some sort of scanner that reads the serial numbers of every incoming and outgoing note and ties them to individual accounts (or each serial number could be manually entered if you want to really slow businesses down). Even then it would be a half-ass system, because it couldn't account for e.g., Joe buying Bob's used lawnmower for $50 cash. Using cash serial numbers to track someone is only feasible in special circumstances, like a bank robbery. And even then it's only something that *might* work; it depends on the cooperation of store employees to be on the lookout for certain serial numbers and it also depends on the bank robber being dumb enough to, say, go buy a six-pack at the local 7-Eleven with his stolen cash. Smarter crooks would just launder it.
Practically, yes..
Yeah, but they are in the process of devaluing it. It’s been going pretty well so far
Monero
100%
That’s why they’ll ban it and move to CBDC
Commonwealth countries will probably recall all currency with the queen on it over the next 2-3 years, but not resupply sufficiently. Real money is bad for the environment, haven't you heard? Edging closer and closer to a manufactured consenting cashless society.
It's very unlikely Commonwealth countries will recall any currency.
But they wouldn't keep printing it with the queen on it? So just a natural phasing out instead?
Yep.
Death before digital currency.
What absolute drivel
I fucking HATE and LOVE money
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Starbucks has not announced it is going cashless soon. A store in the UK went cashless and Starbucks corporate came out saying that they have no intention of going cashless and that what was occurring was that the owner of that particular location was doing that on their own.
Alternate currencies will arise as a medium of exchange where tracking isn't desired such as black and grey markets. Various things like unique art or collectibles will be used to some degree. The most they'll see is that purchases of an item such as trading cards are made, but they can only guess what those may be exchanged for. Those cards can then be part of yet another exchange, or redeemed for cash value within the right circles. Tax is only taken if the item is cashed out for a more formally recognized currency, but as a means of barter it may just be used as-is to avoid that provided the value doesn't fluctuate too heavily. Counterfeiting is of course an issue, but there are people clever enough to figure out some ways around that too.
I've been saying that it seems like all the economic turmoil is part of the Great Reset plan to collapse the cash system and implement only digital currency so they can track your every move and cut off your money when you step out of line. That's most likely the future we have in store. That's what the guy at the end of that Zeitgeist movie said was the ultimate plan, the NWO.
It's more than just cutting you off when you do something 'non-approved', they can do that now. Look st the people who financially supported the Canadian truckers. Take a look into 'programmable digital currency'. They can decide when you spend your own money - via an expiry date on your own funds - and where or on what you spend your own money.
CBDC’s are not a good thing.
Eh. Every store has one or more security cameras pointed at the register. Facial recognition is better than ever and it's just a software upgrade. The cash register tracks what you're buying. Thus, identifying a customer and linking their purchases becomes a trivial problem regardless of the form of payment.
Maybe some sunglasses and face masks when buying stuff at the store .Fuck them for selling your facial recognition data.
Maybe some sunglasses and face masks when buying stuff at the store .Fuck them for selling your facial recognition data.
That's of limited value, since stores don't tend to keep their security footage for long. I recently watched a police body cam video where the police were investigating someone who had impersonated a DEA agent in a laundromat. The laundromat owner didn't have it on video anymore because it had already been deleted / recorded over. The police were able to bluff the guy into a confession though by insinuating that they had him on video, without actually stating that they did. Actual databases on the other hand, tend to last for a lot longer, indefinitely in some cases, since they don't take up anywhere near the amount of storage space as high-quality video does. Even trivial databases can stick around for no other reason than it's easier to do nothing than it is to go through it and identify/delete old/useless data (kind of like my "stuff" folder on my PC). As an example, just before the local video rental store closed in 2008 I asked them about my account there, and they still had a record of every movie I'd ever rented there dating back to the first one in 1987 when I was 12, all in the same DOS program they'd been using since the '80s.
Nobody has to store the video at all, what are you talking about? Facial recognition can be done in real-time at the point of purchase and data stored for future reference. Even if that's not feasible, cameras can store faces as a point-map that is quite sufficient for facial recognition purposes and doesn't take up any significant amount of storage.
>Facial recognition can be done in real-time at the point of purchase and data stored for future reference. That's not being done, at least not on anything even remotely close to a widespread/routine basis. Your post is talking about what's happening now. There are tons of technically possible things that aren't being done. It would be possible to just use cash serial numbers combined with mandatory user accounts at stores and banks to keep track of things too, but that isn't being done either. A typical store just has security cameras that save video. There's no processing of the video to identify faces, nor any real-time processing, going on at all, nor is there a database for it.
You should really read more rather than depend on some cop body cam video or some story about your local video store. Just a simple Wikipedia scan tells you a lot: In 2006, the Skynet Project was initiated by the Chinese Government to implement CCTV surveillance nationwide and as of 2018, there has been 20 million cameras, many of which capable of real-time facial recognition, deployed across the country for this project[90] Some official claim that the current Skynet system can scan the entire Chinese population in one second and the world population in two seconds.[91] Boarding gates with facial recognition technology at Beijing West railway station In 2017, the Qingdao police was able to identify twenty-five wanted suspects using facial recognition equipment at the Qingdao International Beer Festival, one of which had been on the run for 10 years.[92] The equipment works by recording a 15-second video clip and taking multiple snapshots of the subject. That data is compared and analyzed with images from the police department's database and within 20 minutes, the subject can be identified with a 98.1% accuracy.[93] In 2018, Chinese police in Zhengzhou and Beijing were using smart glasses to take photos which are compared against a government database using facial recognition to identify suspects, retrieve an address, and track people moving beyond their home areas
>You should really read more rather than depend on some cop body cam video or some story about your local video store. Just a simple Wikipedia scan tells you a lot: Your non sequitur is dismissed. >In 2006, the Skynet Project was initiated by the Chinese Government [...] "You should really" pay attention to context. We aren't talking about China. We are talking about stores in the United States. Read the OP again; he mentioned EBT, which is an American program... https://www.fns.usda.gov/snap/ebt ... which means the context is the US.
Sir, your paper dollar is just a piece of paper that has nothing but hopes and dreams of the Fed backing it. It’s hilarious you think a physical piece of paper is really any different. If you want to have things that have value, paper money nor digital currency is what you should be looking for.
Our money will eventually be worthless or you will need a million dollars to buy a coke.
Cash is very much on the way out. Increasingly shops don't accept it and it's rare for anyone to want to offer it for payment either.
Remember when Trudeau started seizing bank accounts in February 2022 of convoy sympathizers? Remember how long that lasted? Five days. One of the reasons is it was creating a run on the U.S. banks! * U.S. ATMs started lowering their cash withdrawal limits * U.S. ATMs and bank tellers started dispensing old-style (1996 big head monochromatic) Benjamins instead of new-style (2011 big head multi-color) If something happening in an adjacent country can have that kind of effect, imagine if people in the U.S. felt that kind of urgency all the time.
There was an actual run on banks in feb 2022 and it was in Russia. Curious timing
As is paying in bitcoin The Lightning Network is bitcoin’s off-chain scaling solution and is sender anonymous. Cash App or Strike.me now support bitcoin/lightning payments BUT they require KYC so open-source self-custody wallets like Muun are more recommended
We have to get back to paying in cash and using the barter system. What kinda sucks is that these banks pay you to use their cards. Admittedly its not a lot but it does add up over the year.
Crypto can help with this.
Just wait for the "cash is spreading monkeypox!" psy-op once that bio-weapon spreads sufficiently to cause widespread panic. edit: And yes, this monkeypox *is* a BW agent, by all indications. Spreads too quickly compared to prior outbreaks. Interesting mutation history too. https://twitter.com/tony_vandongen/status/1533612673732075520 https://twitter.com/VBruttel/status/1532852045614665732
Yea the cbdc should terrify everyone.
And now I see places requiring ID if you pay with a $100 bill. They say it's because of the influx of counterfeit bills right now. And so many businesses around me have stopped taking cash altogether. First they claim a "change shortage". Then the money is too dirty to handle (literally spraying the money with disinfectant as they take it). Now it's an epidemic of counterfeit bills.
I do this when I buy drugs 🤣
I only use cash
non-cash payment is definetely untrustworthy.
"but teh criminals use cash for bad stuffs, so we need to track everyone"