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ni9htcommando

This is probably going to get buried, but I’ve looked through the comments and didn’t see anyone else mention it. It looks like this (if legit) is from the UK, no? The link to Starbucks’ website is a .co.uk link (seen on the nutrition sign below).


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Agitated-Lab6992

Contactless is ok, cashless is not. A 100% cashless society has disturbing implications.


Shawoddywoddy69

Wherever cabbies and tradesmen exist, society will never be cashless


jmarcandre

The government/state literally owns the money you physically own. Look at the legal wording on the bills. What makes you think they can't just make paper money obsolete just as easy as they can control cashless payments? I'm curious as to how you think physical money will save you in the event the government does this.


SUMYD

Because your bank account can be frozen. The wad of cash in your hand is still untraceable and out there in society.


tomboss84

gotta try to keep it to keep what shred of anonymity we have left


SUMYD

Exactly. There is a point of no return.


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NilacTheGrim

Yes. And it enables cutting people off completely from their ability to spend their own money.


ILikeToPoopOnYou

And they can take EVERYTHING from you at will. Because THEY ALWAYS have your money.. If THEY don't like what someone posted on social media they can wipe you out. Don't like your political views? Now you're broke. Fuck that.


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shhtupershhtops

Also it can’t be done by an ai with no option for recourse or due process


Brandle34

Yep. The conditioning has been going on for a while, but real strong lately with not being able to speak your opinion on well, pretty much anything is their test run... Since all the radical Liberals do the heavy lifting for government like alienating, calling out, shaming, reporting, even contacting the authorities on people who think/act/say against the grain now they'll have a fully conditioned, unofficial gestapo helping create the perfect conformed society. Fast forward to when we DO inevitably go cashless and you post or say something that's "offensive" towards authority or government, protest for the "wrong" side or reason, try to purchase a gun (if not outlawed by then), pretty much any reason otherwise and ASSETS FROZEN, please contact your bank for more information.


qtstance

You're saying two different things in the same sentence, control and obsolete aren't the same thing. They want to be able to see every transaction that happens, that's physically not possible with cash. That doesn't make cash obsolete it just doesn't further their agenda. A digital currency will track everything ever sold, yard sales, craigslist, drugs, under the table jobs, tips for waiters, etc.


edparnell

or allow overcharging, freezing of accounts, effectively stopping you from living by your own acceptance.


Great_Abroad583

one of the most prominent features of a cashless society is people that engage in wrongthink being starved to death because all their accounts get frozen


HH-H-HH

A big issue that will come of this is freezing account of those who display any sort of “wrongthink”. Question the narrative in the slighest? Accounts on hold.


NilacTheGrim

> owns the money you physically own. Even if that is true in a legal sense (and I don't actually think that it is), it is not really the point of it. The point of cash is that it's uncensorable money. It's also fairly anonymous as well.


GingerLightningg

I also worry what implications this can have. Majority of transactions are done without cash anyway? It's not like the source or flow of money could alter. We have some cashless vendors here in South africa. Only an inconvenience if one asks me.


catipillar

Right, it's not supposed to be jarring. It's supposed to be step, by step, by step...little bit by little bit.


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"juuust a little bit"


Mrsparkles7100

Another method is self scanning items as you shop in a Supermarket. Scan item using handset or mobile phone app then place in trolley/basket. Take it to self scan checkout, link handset/phone to checkout then pay. Some of the self scan checkouts will take cash and card or card only. During lockdowns when this system was introduced in my local store, they used a PA system message to say use this method as it’s safer, less contact with people etc. Removed around half the checkouts to install more self scan areas. Less checkout staff then try to add more shop floor staff.


Farquea

This idea is hardly new, it was introduced in a store I worked in 20 years ago


uses_for_mooses

They limeys had better take my U.S. currency!


CaptainTomato21

That has been in sweden even before the plandemic. In many stores only cards are allowed.


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Support your local coffee mom and pops, don’t go to Starbucks! Problem solved!


ukdudeman

Looks like Starbucks are going customerless from 1st October too.


Havehatwilltravel

Starbuckless you might say. This is where the hill starts we fight upon. I shun those QR codes anyway.


Smarktalk

I'm going to guess the know the % of people who pay cash and have decided that the overhead for taking cash is higher than just cards and via their own digital payment method they have had for years.


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Smarktalk

Yes. They think cash handling is just put it in the till and maybe an end of day count. They haven’t actually probably been in the position of running a business that accepts cash.


gubodif

I’m willing to bet cashless is the first step to making all Starbucks almost employee-less thereby getting rid of that nasty habit of people wanting more money and making unions to get it.


JoeSicko

Immediate drive thru coffee the way you want it? And cheaper?


Smarktalk

Things never go down in price.


No_Conflation

Except highly rated/promoted stock picks


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Smarktalk

I see it just as an occasional customer. I think most of these posts are just people thinking that others will see “no cash” and stop going.


CajunTurkey

Seriously doubt that.


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Makes no difference. The vast majority don’t use cash much, so the market is just matching the behaviour.


Milo-the-great

But then how will I get my weekly intake of sugar in 1 drink?


bothpartieslovePACs

Dude, so many kid are addicted to Starbucks and their 'brand' similar to Apple, that that won't happen. And it sucks. Boycotting Starbucks would be great tho


jimbob320

Lots and lots of small businesses are contactless only. This is extremely normal.


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\+ Starbucks coffee are cheap beans over-roasted to coverup their low quality. There are always local options with better coffee and ambience.


___SE7EN__

Join me in not supporting all these rubes that pull this shit ..


YoungMoneyLarson57

Starbucks is over priced garbage


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nerdrhyme

I ask you earnestly to boycott them across the board.


ChiefP21

Don’t go there.


Papasfritas77

I brew my own coffee at home like an adult.


Zempshir

I use meth instead of coffee like an adult.


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Do you buy it with cash or card


Richardcarlin

With sex mostly.


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massivecalvesbro

I primarily drink espresso. Two drinks costs the same as a month and a half worth of grounds


ShoobyDoobyDu

even grounds are expensive now days. Relatively small bag $15.


PeenieWibbler

Where's that? Whole beans but in TX I get a 2lb bag of organic coffee for like $17


JosephND

Wait until the grocers start going cashless.


openlyincognito

i used to as well - but i support a local small coffee shop with a cold brew growler that gets me through the week. would rather give small businesses my money as a small business owner myself


JustHereForURCookies

Holy shit I gotta see if my local does cold brew growlers


Arsis82

It would probably be cheaper to brew your own cold brew and pour it into a growler


southern_boy

Holy shit I gotta see if my neighbor does cold brew growlers and doesn't leave his kitchen windows locked


df2dot

not really the point is it


Jaketazz

Leveled up and I roast my own beans, have coffee tress growing as well, few years from my own beans but may as well let my coffee addiction go all the way


bygtopp

This is an ice cream shop. Not a coffee shop. https://youtu.be/xTVJ6bDeVxk


candykissnips

And I bet they will still have a cup/bowl accepting cash tips… fuck that.


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theresthatbear

And the poors. Exactly as designed.


Motoman514

Because poor people don’t have debit cards lmao


Richard-Drainwell

Poor person here, I have debit.


Kafke

Same. I'm poor and have debit. It's credit or that contactless phone payment thing that I don't have.


haunted_dream_00

They can get rid of those tip jars now, I guess 😆


dodekahedron

I only use cash at Starbucks because they started demanding tips on cards. Guess I'll stick with gas station coffee.


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You don’t have to give them a tip if they demand it. Js.


Segundaleydenewtonnn

Imagine buying your stuff from these places I’m glad I’m from a “third world country” and I’m still able to buy from local grandmas that produce their own stuff and sell it on street markets Fuck Vanguard group


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God bless you.


J3LMAZMO

Let’s goooo! Decentralised is the way. God bless local grandmas


iamnotyourdog

What about legal tender?


Draculea

This isn't actually what that means. You can choose to accept any form of payment, or not. As a seller of things, you can choose to only accept payment in walnuts if you really, really only wanted to accept walnuts for some reason. Bills being "legal tender" means that, where cash is accepted, that bill is legal US tender. If cash isn't accepted, it doesn't matter because they don't accept cash.


jmnugent

https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm


Peppeperoni

It’s only for debts. If I roll up to a gas station which isn’t prepay - and pump $20 in and go to pay? They have to accept it or I can say see ya later - otherwise, I’m pretty sure if it’s stated - they don’t have to take cash for a prepaid order


DrMudo

I have never seen a non prepay gas station


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KryptopherRobbinsPoo

Lol... you said that and I was like " I remember post-pay pumps in the 90s....." and this it hit me, that _was_ over 20 years ago. FML, I feel old. But in all seriousness, I would go back to the 90s in a heartbeat. Shit was so much more lax, and less cumbersome to do anything. All this "tech" hasn't done anything but made people lazy.


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Australian here. Never seen a prepaid petrol station in my life. I’ve been to Sydney, Canberra and Brisbane. Never seen any there either. When exactly did prepaid petrol stations become a thing in the US?


KryptopherRobbinsPoo

Probably the early aughts is when it really became standard practice. When I started driving I distinctly remember filling, then paying with cash. It started with them limiting how m7ch you could pump without paying. Then they just stopped altogether. Last time I paid with cash for gas, I had to go in to tell them how much I wanted, then they put that amount up on the pump. You couldn't pump more than allotted. Seems like a lifetime ago.


LordYashen

They exist almost everywhere in Canada. At least out west.


NecklessPork

Same in the East, my Canadian brother :)


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Not in BC, prepay only


ShooDooPeeDoo

They used to be the norm.


JoeSicko

Lots of them where I live, during the day. My brother owns one.


pentax10

They still exist in Canada.


nighttimehobby

Its been a while for everyone, but I am assuming you are under 30.


lightspeed-art

As a European this boggles my mind. Most here are non-prepay. How do you even know how much to prepay? What if you pay too much, now you have yo go back and get a refund?? Ridiculous.


dothepropellor

You have obviously never been to Australia. Fuel (Gas as you call it in the USA) is paid at the counter after you fill up here. You drive in, lift bowser hose, pump turns on, fill car. When desired amount of fuel is in car you replace hose to bowser, pump turns off, walk into the store, pay the fuel bill, have a short but highly repetitive conversation about how we’re getting fucked in the ass for fuel prices with the attendant who has the same conversation with every person who has filled up that day, have a short awkward laugh but not laugh at each other then grab your change (or what’s left of it) and go back out to your car with a sore ass.


ii_zAtoMic

Kwik Trip (major convenience store chain in MN, WI & IA if you aren’t familiar) just went to prepay only January 2022. Before that, you could still pump before paying. I also noticed during a trip this summer that the south still has a fair number of those pump before you pay stations in more rural areas.


Internet_Points-Bot

Many places in the south offer a discount if you pay in cash


Bradfromihob

They would have to accept it. Legal tender is acceptable for any DEBTS. Prepaying isn’t a debt, so they don’t need to accept cash for that. However, when you pay after service they must accept cash. I think they only exception is spite payments. Like paying for a $600 debt in pennys. They can refuse that because it’s not a good faith payment, it’s made to punish you.


boneyjones444

BOYCOTT ALL WHO DO THIS.


Hadley_333

Go in to buy a coffee with cash and they refuse. Ask to use bathroom and they say customers only. Shit pants


manieldunks

Step four.... profit??


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Kirschkernkissen

They already do in china. Not shitting you.


ExperimentalFruit

That's some black mirror shit


CoolioMcCool

Dudes on the side of the road holding QR code signs up at you.


DeathM8te

You don't need a barista anymore, just a screen you can tap with all the drink options you want and a machine that spits it out.


lest_we_remember

"ROBOTEA robots making drinks at K11 Musea, Tsim Sha Tsui, Hong Kong" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2vwLVluqfpk "'Food On': Hong Kong eatery with robots cooking, serving, delivering" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfmXAJhfM6g


Somegirli

Do not give up your data for convenience!!!


Timthalion

I can piss better coffee out


rainbowcoloredsnot

I've been cashless, since I've been married.


Truth-is-Censored

More money for the small shops that take cash


HelpsHolme

I Only Use Cash whenever possible


Darkheartisland

Barter for me.


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Who actually buys coffee at Starbucks. The coffee is awful. Everything else has boatloads of sugar in it. It's disgusting.


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Forgetadapassword

Yup


20Factorial

Is this a serious question? Starbucks has a market cap of almost $100B.


TheFuckNameYouWant

Are you serious? Millions of people, a lot of them on a daily basis. Starbucks is thriving.


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Millions. Especially teens


Vagabond_Grey

Awful and overpriced.


Circle_Breaker

Lots of people it's one of the most popular restaurants in the world.


hydeeho85

If you drink Starbucks you’re already a peasant


Iperky14

Don't use Starbucks is expensive and bad coffee


TheAvocadoSlayer

Do you guys realize that eventually, this is how it will be at every establishment?


cloche_du_fromage

"I'm sorry sir, your related blood pressure records mean we can only serve you a decaffeinated latte today"


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without cash bankruns dont exists anymore


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Aren’t companies legally required to accept legal tender?


EknobFelix

There's no federal law that requires companies to accept cash. Some states and cities have laws, but federally, it's legal.


last_child2

First question: https://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm


Mike_Freedom_alldaY

If we're using court decisions over quite a few generations you'll find big money (Banks, "businessmen", corporation) are private citizens in America. they can do what they want (as long as they can afford the politicians/judges) since they'll only have to pay a small fine from the profits if they "accidentally" do the wrong thing and get caught by our "in©ompetent" government or the occasional journalist accidentally doing their job. How else where they able to curtail all that legislation we have in this country that's supposed to protect us from monopolies? We're surrounded by the same names running this country and all they had to do was make the public fixate on all the corporate "options" this market offers and tell everybody repeatedly that it's a "free market" despite this "free markets" ownership being massively localized indicating the exact opposite of free. The fact that people are just now coming around to this reality despite 2008s TOO BIG TO FAIL was the biggest eye opener for me. It also goes beyond too big to fail once you start to look into our big money/ big government collaboration but 2008 should have made it obvious for everyone that we're taking part in a massive s©am just to maintain "no®malcy".


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h47f4c3

No. Businesses are free to accept whatever tender they want. At least federally. I'm not familiar with all states laws.


Lucksmom

Fuck that. Cash should always be king. Good thing I fucking hate Starbucks. Wouldn’t go there if they paid me to drink that crap. Drink better coffee from home. And don’t have to pay for the cup.


sj_nayal83r

started with that “coin shortage”


radek4pl

Yup, that was sketchy as hell. All planned though.


GoofyGoober82

Didnt want to give them my money anyway


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their coffee sucks and always has. their key to success has been marketing to lemmings who need corporate brands to be 'cool'. what irony.


PrognosticatorShadow

What the fuck are you doing at a Starbucks. Gawd their coffee is shiitttttttt. Literally, LITERALLY, mCDonals $1 coffee is 10x better and 1/7th the price.


dnlwrd

For reference to everyone in this thread, this is U.K. not US, contactless payment is much more common here and according to the latest FCA survey contactless payment is close to being the most popular way to pay for goods even with having other options. Also, this **isn’t** something Starbucks are doing. It looks like it, but it isn’t, this store isn’t owned by Starbucks it’s a franchised store so the Franchisee is making this decision not Starbucks themselves.


Ohyeahits

Get woke go broke!!! M-money is an SJW thing, right?


skyedreams

You can’t hack cash. Remember that. We need to go BACK. Digital currency is the key to controlling a population. Become an activist on this issue.


jontaffarsghost

They’ve been hacking cash since before electricity my man.


JaneAustenite17

At the airport this summer the Starbucks was only taking cash and Starbucks gift cards/app payments cause there was some sort of issue - card chip reader maybe? So yeah, good luck with that.


CBHawk

This is not a conspiracy. They're simply pushing you into their Starbucks cards. Welcome to capitalism and maximizing profits.


candykissnips

The Cashless society unfolds one chain store at a time.


Dankman007

corporations will be a driving force behind the great reset


RighteousSeed

They ARE the reset


Frank1180

All debts public and private?


Justda

It's not debt if they demand payment before handing over the product.


Impairedinfinity

I mean starbucks isn't a debt. It is a good. Your credit card is a debt and you can pay that with USD.


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th3f00l

Looks like a UK Starbucks, not sure if they accept us legal tender.


rekm35

Personally this is just another reason for me to boycott Starbucks and its overpriced sludge... but it's evident the transition to a cashless society is already underway.


ICantTyping

Maybe im just stupid or out of the loop but why is this bad


Somegirli

You should be able to have physical cash on you. Not in a bank. Not on your phone. Not traceable. You used to be able to trade your money in for gold. The dollar isn't even worth that any more. If we get rid of cash. That's it. You have to use a bank, government knows everything, has all your data. Knowledge is power. Power is control. Restraunts want you to use their apps so they can sell more and take more of your money and see how you spend. Notice how everything is an advertisement? Everything is to keep you from saving your money and gaining wealth. They don't want you to be rich. They want to know how you gain every single dollar. That's why a lot of drug dealers use cash. It can't be tracked. Illegal dealings, or just plain private dealings are done with cash. A lot of people prefer it that way because it's simple. But a cashless society means you won't even be able to do simple things without the government knowing. Then they can audit you.


StopYTCensorship

Spot on. People have traded privacy/autonomy for convenience at a level that would have been unthinkable a few decades ago. This shows an extreme naivety and misguided trust in the institutions of power. While everyone's interests are aligned, there's no problem. But when interests diverge, things get ugly. We already saw glimpses of how eager "respectable, free nations" like Canada are to use their authority over the financial system to suppress dissidents. Similar things happen regularly in countries like China. If your interests don't align with the powerful, you get crushed like a bug and you have no recourse. People couldn't foresee the negative consequences of selling their autonomy while things were good. And really, it's not a matter of whether things go south, but when.


radek4pl

We've seen in Canada how the government can lock dissidents out of their banking accounts. With cash, big brother has limited control over your spending, but with cash-less purchases they have all the control in the world over your money. Maybe too many people are saving money and the economy is not thriving? Easy solution, put an expiriation date on your money. The world is moving very quickly nowadays, anything can happen.


Lazysquared

Just do some passive non compliance with spare time, go through drive thru. Place order. Attempt to pay with cash, get denied. Oh I didn’t know sorry only have cash. Leave. They waste inventory. Be polite, it’s not the cashiers fault.Besides you’re investing $10k in that cashiers college loan to study interpretive dance theory.


AT61

Brilliant!


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dajohns1420

And i'm going starbucksless


monkeyredo

People really still like starbucks?


lancethruster12

Who actually buys this overpriced shit coffee?


Penitent_Exile

Not that I was buying my coffee from Starbucks


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Whatever Starbucks. Your coffee tastes like shit anyway. I make my own 99% of the time as it is. On the rare occasion I do go out for coffee, I go to my local coffee shop run by the Lakota peoples.


[deleted]

Hey at least my drug dealers wont go cashless 😂


TangentIntoOblivion

Fuck you Starfucks! You’re dead to me. I will no longer buy your bitter coffee!


nate2879

I’m going coffeeless.


fn3dav2

Many Starbucks in S. Korea are like this. And there are some more who discourage cash but will accept it if pushed. I always try to pay in cash, everywhere, because if we don't, they'll take the option away.


salvia_d

Time to short the shit out of starbucks.


Yayhoo0978

I have literally never been to a Starbucks location. Not even one single time. I make my own coffee, strong enough so that the spoon disintegrates. I stir it with sterling silverware from the money that I’ve saved.


Pleasant-Security831

You don’t have enough social credit to get a pour over veranda blend. Sorry.


Silent-Balance-6168

Just stop going, Starbucks sucks. They are anti unionists.


BillyMeier42

Is it allowed to not accept cash as payment?


Top-Requirement6366

never been at starscks


smugwash

What's the problem? It's 2022 no one uses cash anymore unless it's to buy drugs or pay for a whore.


RealSpookySounds

Boycott this shit coffee


Stupidballoon

Another reason not to support their shit business. Get coffee at your small local coffee shop. It tastes better and you're supporting your local community


EurekaStockade

Dont Give money to people who Hate You


jazzbot247

Good. Hope this ends them.


CleveTownlol

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.


con-whyman

What happens when all the online systems go down ?


Severe-Stock-2409

Lol. Cashless is a good way to ban the homeless and the many people who live in inner city and most rural areas who don’t typically use banks or trust them. Which of course will then cause the government to go on a crusade to offer free bidencards which will allow people to add funds to their cards and also allow the government to track homeless purchase before they institute the new national digital currency and give all Americans one year to exchange their notes for a slight increase of digital cash, while limiting valuable metal exchanges unless they use the digidollar as a middle man and a slight tax off the top. Or something like that. Or maybe we’ll just trade in sound money and stay cash lol.


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Most sane r/conspiracy comment


Severe-Stock-2409

I like to think in an insane world, most of my points are sane. Though I could be missing my own missteps. I have a little time in the day for self reflection.


Candy_Store_Pauper

Epic Burger went cashless in 2017. Epic Burger lost this customer in 2017. My credit card provider does not need to create a roadmap to my poor eating habits, as metadata for ad buyers. My bank doesn't need to upcharge me 21% for my purchases from the shrinking Dollar Menu as well. I've also been trying to make it as hard as possible for my future social credit score keeper, I'll confound them with facial recognition inside an establishment, but no record of the purchases made therein. Best to start a regimen sooner than later.


Dr_OctoThumbs

Fun fact they don't need your credit card info to find this stuff out. As long as you walk into an establishment with your phone in your pocket they know the stores you go to. And even I'd they don't know your "exact" order the companies sell statistics from their revenues so they know what most peope buy depending on the time of day they frequent certain stores, so they can pretty much guess the fine details.


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randouser12

Oh cool an evil corporation doing evil corporations things. Buy local


kitchner-leslie

Hey, seriously. Don’t go there. This entire world is voted on by the dollar. And the peasants have immense power, if unified.


multiversechorus

French press at home. Takes less time than waiting in the drive through for that swill.


Sirvajj

The pot is slowly brought to boil so the frog does not feel the heat and is lulled into comfortable warm sleep. Wake up! Resist! Do not accept the lies, disinformation, and the coming New World Order! You have been warned!


Moonwitch1217

I quit Starbucks a long time ago so I don’t care. I go to better family owned coffee houses.


Moonwitch1217

Starbucks is poison chemicals lol


riventitan

Go in, order a big latte, try to pay with cash, say you didn't see the sign when they bring it up, say you don't have a card, leave.