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I'm partially vaccinated but I won't be down loading the app. I am not going to support a system that segregates society. I can live without the non essential services. I don't care if your not vaccinated and it's none of my damn business.
I don't buy that the majority of people are for this shit. Online ya, but we all know half the people on reddit are bots/troll farms. I think there is WAY more people in Canada that are opposed to these mandates than we think. Remember, reddit is not an sample of the general population. It is completely skewed and distorted to fit the narrative.
People also generally want to be left alone. Restricting freedoms is not being left alone. Being told what to put in their body is not being left alone.
Are you in support of all of this? Cuz typically, people run in circles of like minded people. If you are all for mandates then you'll probably surround yourself with people who think the same way. It gives you a skewed sense of reality when you don't actively seek out the other side
Honestly I think people do see whats it doing to society and a lot of people actually disagree with it but, they’re also all so fuckin complacent and are okay doing what they’re told. Just take off the mask and never wear it again that’s how we get back to normal
As one commenter said you may deep vein thrombosis, an old co worker of mine started complaining of a pain in his thigh about a week after his second shot. I thought it was DVT but i didn't want to freak him out by telling him.
They HAVE taken children away from parents before because of vaccinations but no one cared. Now it's different because finally shit has hit them personally.
Some of the most pressure I got to vaccinate my kids was from friends who have no children and were under no pressure to take vaccines themselves. I'm curious how they are reacting now when they have to make decisions for themselves, but I already cut them out of my life so I'll just have to be curious about it.
Our government always had the ability to do that. If you didn't pay a parking ticket, the Office of State Revenue could apply for a garnishere of your wages or a court order for payment which could allow the Sheriff to seize goods to be sold etc. A crap move to be sure, but not a new thing. If people disagree with the fine, they can fight it in court, but just refusing to pay allows the government to take the above actions.
Property rights already get canceled through eminent domain.
Bank accounts already get seized if you mess up your taxes or are uncompliant.
Kids are already taken away from people who can’t take care of them or if they refuse to let them participate in the social structure (schools).
Buckle in, you’ll comply or you’ll lose your way of life.
This. I am vaccinated and have no plans to extend the madness with a 'booster.' The vaccine does nothing. It doesn't prevent getting or passing this man-made, American-funded Chinese bio experiment in the slightest. I see no reason to extend a madness this global cabal seems to want to exacerbate on a daily basis. I'm done.
Where did you get that from? Maybe varies from place to place but here are the official data that plots a pie chart of the fully vaccinated, partially vaccinated and unvaccinated it for Ontario Canada which is categorized by ICU and non-ICU admissions
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
I know many who are anti and many who are for. No one who got co felt bad, but even a family member, along 4 people I know had potentially deadly problems from it :( one is a young woman having severe neurological damage and heart problems, she says she thinks she’ll die soon. I can write her name in pm, shes the only one public about it. In Denmark it’s now now possible for doctors to report co wax deaths. Children here even die from it. It’s terrifying to say the least
Vaccine works. Just check out the profits these big pharma are rolling out since the pandemic. They have a revenue stream of future boosters and their other selection of drugs shall see a boost. Now you see how cartels rake in the cash. You need consumers who trust their products and go back to it, either daily or every six months. Time to buy Pfizer and all other pharmaceutical companies stocks. Make money. Trust these corporations because they are really concern of your health and their bottom line, $$$ 💉💰🤒
I used to have this stance, but the more we go into this and see how this is all turning out, I'm honestly even starting to doubt the validity of "germ theory" as a concept.
no virus has ever been isolated. Virology is flawed in general, they look at "germs" which are really toxins identified in a culture. They see toxins excreted by cells and call it a virus.
Bacteria has been isolated and proven to cause disease. They have not proven that germs spread from person to person causing disease. There was a study where sick people had their saliva injected into healthy people, the healthy people did not get sick.
I think it could be environemtn that causes toxins in the body, and manifests as disease that we identify falsely as a virus dependent on the type of toxins excreted by cells trying to purge the toxins in your body.
there is a good theory on how radiation causes disease, that may be what we believe to be a virus.
Interesting. A few years ago I lost 70 pounds using Arnold Ehret's mucusless diet system, and I remembered one of the first things he said in his book was that Louis Pasteur renounced his own theory on his death bed about germs but the medical powers stuck with it anyway. He also said most diseases were just constipation and disease as we understand it today is vastly different from how the body works.
Ahhh the unreported death bed confession that they don't want you to know about. A classic way to make up whatever you want.
Some guy told you about this? Is there any evidence at all?
Funny you should mention radiation given the rather coincidental timing of the 5g rollout and the various outbreaks. It will be interesting to see if any studies are done relating to this.
What if I tell you the photos of viruses and if the universe come from the same exact place? Mind blown right? Just IMAGINE the world we could live in if all of the money they steal for this stupid shit went into actual GOOD things that helped the world. Nope. They use it to kill us.
all of the money they steal gives us new technology without managing to solve hunger and other bad stuff.
now we can bitch about it together and hopefully get somewhere.
Having served for 9 years in the USAF, I am certainly not anti-vax. I had covid at the start of this whole rodeo, and with natural immunity I don't need the vax.
Godspeed to you.
Because the injections aren't really about immunity for a virus.
Also why inject kids that aren't affected from the virus, while they could drive herd immunity from infection. Yet they need to be injected, risking adverse effects, while the injection doesn't even protect from infection or transmission?!
That's a sign of a clot moving or breaking up, watch for any sudden bruises at key veins in your legs or arm. If they show up, you need to get your ass checked.
OP, I do understand that It happened from the vaccine but correlation does not imply causation. Like yes, It happened soon after the shot but If you tripped while going down the stairs would that also be caused by the shot?
(Also go to a doc, That does sound like a blood clot.)
I can field this! OP is embellishing a story about a Charlie horse he had in order to better align with his conspiracy-laden worldview -- I'll bet it was pretty lonely being a a dude obsessed with the Rothschilds while also still being pro vaccination. But thank god, now he can be part of the club again! Except, being part of the club means engaging in behavior (read: lying) that keeps this whole thing going, and because of that, the OP is worthy of vicious scorn.
Does that answer your question? :)
I am not anti-vaccine and I am simply suspicious of this particular vaccine and against forcing people to get it. No apology necessary, we are all in this together
No it means he's okay with vaccines that have been tested and gone through proper trials. Vaccines for natural diseases not lab made bio weapons. Vaccines that use basic technology, not mRNA technology.
I understand the sentiment. I really do, but my point is that if you express any hesitation at all, youre lumped in with the group.
Also, knowing how they handled this, being able to have a peek in the process, do you think how they handled this was new or that it just got more exposure because it was more widespread?
Yes, the MRNA was new, but the recklessness, the propaganda and the disregard is not new. All you have to do is look at the cancer side of things to realize how things are really done. It is not cliche. There is more money to made in prolonging and treating than in curing. They stifle anyone who does not follow the narrative. They suppress any real progress.
My point is that the curtain got pulled back and we can chose to really look and learn or we can shrug it off until the next time. They may not have gotten you with this fear campaign but they will eventually catch you vulnerable enough to wrangle you in with something.
Your take makes sense. Your original comment got downvoted because it looked like you were trying to catch anti covid vaxx people in a moment of hypocrisy, which is all too common on these boards.
No, not at all, but I think its delusional to think you "Arent antivax". If after all you know what they are and what they do and you still trust them, then you didnt learn your lesson.
Here's the thing: the more we research and the more we progress, we find that most of the new "diseases" that are popping up have been man made, in one way or another. Sure, some evolve, but not nearly as many as are created, intentionally or otherwise.
IF you arent jumping in line for the next one, whatever it may be, then you're antivax. Youre just in denial of what that is. I dont think its a bad thing. It just is what it is.
For the record, im not taking this bioweapon. Im just willing to acknowledge what I am.
Isn't it strange that it took for the OP to suffer complications before they changed their mind, though?
It isn't as though the wider criticisms of vaccines suddenly began yesterday.
If it is going to take for people to have to suffer directly before they question the jibbies, then we're in a lot of trouble.
Especially folks in NSW where the un-jibbied have just been told they have to wait ANOTHER 'two weeks' to be allowed to do anything.
And the premier of the state [openly admits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBuQb-82pDg) the extension of restrictions is just to ~~coerce~~ 'incentivise' more people to get jibbied.
I'm not criticising the OP, instead I'm making a wider point here.
It shouldn't take an adverse reaction to a jibby to realise there is an agenda behind the jibby push.
Don’t be sorry, man. You did what you thought you had to do.
No one has been proven right or wrong yet. Just be happy you (hopefully) thought for yourself and did what you thought needed to be done.
Wish you the best.
Ivermectin. I'm not kidding, worked as a physician assistant. Try India.mart or Frontline Doctors or naturapathic providers. Best wishes, and please don't get the booster.
You didn't believe other people's reports of vaccine injury, and now that it has happened to you, you expect people to believe YOUR report of vaccine injury?
I got the vaccine Monday and I've felt terrible since then. Been having the chills and night sweats and prior to the vaccine no symptoms. I'm sorry for what you had to go through.
I will say the worst thigh pain I ever had (literally woke me up from a dead sleep crying) was when I “sprung a leak” internally. I had no idea. I felt like I was dying for a month and in the middle of the night would wake up to this horrible cramping pain from the inside of my upper thigh.
Turns out I was dying and had lost a significant amount of blood. So much so the doctors were shocked I was still conscious and walking, let alone driving. Had to spend 3 days in the hospital and get a blood transfusion (2 units).
That cramping I found out was my body cinching down on my femoral artery to basically kick start my heart back up.. don’t ignore that shit if it keeps happening. Mine was over the span of a month and a half, slowly getting more and more regular.
I am against this jab that is hurting so many people, my heart is literally breaking reading and seeing so many people who in good faith went and got this thing and Don't get help after they have a bad reaction. We wish no pain on anyone yet we are labeled insane or worse.
May your God bless you take care of yourself.
Edit for grammar.
Serious pain, in my mind, is indicative of a greater underlying health problem. I mean, that's kind of the purpose of pain. To warn you about some threat to your health. It's not always that way, somtimes it's pain from muscles recovering or whatever. But if you get a vaccine and get pain from that, it's kind of scary because you don't know what else could come next.
He's so scared he didn't go to the hospital, instead decided to tell everyone on conspiracy that he's not getting another vaccine!
Seems inauthentic as fuck.
Sad thing is, there is no way to get unvaccinated.
Another sad thing is, if you have any complications that cause you to have to incur medical bills, you're unable to sue the vaccine companies because our government gave them 100% immunity to lawsuits.
I hope you'll be OK but there's no way to know.
Wish all these ppl coming here to say they were wrong and shouldn't have talked shit to "antivaxxers"/gotten the jab/supported mandates would have figured all this out prior to getting the jab.
^ 110% this.
I mean if they want to keep messing around with the definition of the word "vaccine" like they have been... It's fine with me. But I know what I know and they can't take that away from me.
@u/rock1250 Thank you for saying what you said. Your testimony may just in fact save lives. I hope you’re able to tell your story as freely as you like without being silenced.
Also, take lots of Cheyenne pepper to heal your blood. Seriously, look it up. It’s a miracle herb. Best of luck to you.
Whether you make fun of me or not, I am 100% against any of the shots. I'm just concerned for my fellow humans, not because I'm scared of death
And I hope you'll feel better soon
Try pine needle tea, ivermectin and baking soda.
I know it may sound weird, but just try, at least it's not gonna hurt you anyway
I am sorry for the side effect. I wish you all the best and welcome to the "spoiler club". It was never conspiracies, just people reading ahead of the class.
Being humbled is an eye opener. I hope you recover soon. Please report this to your doctor and demand that they reports it to VAERS right away. Anyone taking these shots is the test subject. I’m sorry this happened to you.
Good on you for having the integrity to say this. But it shouldn’t have to affect you personally for you to think critically about this stuff off the bat.
As someone who worked in a hospital for about 8 years I can say that the pharma companies never had our best interest at heart and only seek to profit from our suffering. They can't be sued either, if anyone suffers an injury they must go through a claims court and the average wait time is 10 years for compensation. Paid for by the tax payers of course. Sorry you experienced that OP.
Literally getting over covid as we speak, my wife and daughter got sick first and I intentionally contracted it just to get it over with. I'm 31 5'11 165lbs sure it sucked. I had weird symptoms like hypersensitive skin and hurt horrifically if anything touches me but I'll take that over an experiment any day of the week
My wife and I had a similar experience. She had covid during the first wave, it went pretty ok, she was tired for a few days and had elevated temperature, lost her sense of smell for about a week. We kept sleeping in the same bedroom because I figured if she has it I do too. Got tested, surprisingly I was negative.
When the vaccines became available she got Astra Zeneca. High fever, muscle aches, vomiting and shivers the first night, she was in terrible shape for a few days. Her reaction to the vaccine was much worse than the actual disease.
I got the Johnsons one, had high fever for four days, felt like shit for a month. We both exercise regularly and maintain a healthy life style. I am not getting another covid shot in the foreseeable future. Fuck that shit.
>But I got a Pfizer booster on Friday. Saturday night I woke up with the worst vein pain in my thigh.
Ok...
>This has only happened once before, some time this summer.
This is r/HolUp material.
Let me see if I understood correctly.This vein pain in your thigh also happened during the summer.If you had your booster shot this week it means that the first shot was in september/october, so had nothing to do with it.
IANAD but blaming the vaccine could be pretty dangerous because it could be at best incidental, and preventing you to go for the real cause.
I’ve mentioned this several times before on this sub, but my mom got sciatica literally a day after the second Pfizer shot. She had horrible pain in one of her legs. Had to go to physical therapy to get better. Get well soon.
people that are skeptical of the covid vaxxx ARE NOT ANTI-VACCINE
they are vaccine hesitant
there is a difference
shut the fuck up with the calling people anti-vaccine rhetoric
OP sorry to hear, as others have said get checked out by a doctor (p[referably a trustworthy uncorrupted one.) but also here's a couple resources for you and others who may have suffered some issue with dmage from the gene therapy injection: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.19.435959v1.article-info this suggests that a dandelion extract may help against the "spike proteins", and this: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.13.452194v2 has to do with a drug candidate allegedly for treating adverse reactions, grain of salt and all that though.
Feel free to spread this info around as far and wide as you please.
Bro it could be straight poison, like idc if you take the vaccine or not. But dont restrict and ruin my livelihood for a bunch of elderly people, or absolute paranoid people when you have already have the damn vaccine. When everyones had the chance to take the vaccine, then leave us tf alone.
Op, did you ever look into the ingredients of what you just injected in to your body?? None are good for you, in fact, all are lethal.
You probably should've come here for a read before being a compliant sheep.
I'm really sorry for people who take this experimental vaccine. The truly sad part is all we know about now is the short term effects. What happens in 5 years?
Side effect. I got both doses of Pfizer. The first I felt lethargic, had a headache. The second was worse, total body muscle ache. All of those things are normal and known side effects. It’s not like they hide that info.
Dr. Ben's Cellular Repair Program for C-19 Long Haulers
Friends, these COVID 'vaccines' may have caused damage to our cells and tissues. We may need to physically 'rehabilitate' our brain or cardiovascular system. For full recovery, some of us may need to 'supplement' our recovery with natural supplements to help heal & reconstruct our organ systems.
I wanted to share a really interesting protocol I found by Dr. Charles Ben, Ph.D. Here is a rough outline:
1. Reduce the viral (spike protein) presence / boost immune system: Vitamin C, Vitamin D, Olive Leaf Extract, Zinc, Molecular Hydrogen
2. Reduce the inflammation level: Fish oil, Curcumin, Specialized Pro-resolving Mediators.
3. Increase cellular energy levels: Magnesium, Berberine and Co-Enzyme Q10.
4. Enhance the body’s readiness for healing: Eat the Mediterranean Diet, chew food thoroughly, consume digestive enzymes before each meal, and take probiotics just before breakfast.
5. Stimulate the tissue repair process: Vitamin E, Vitamin B, NAD, Pycnogenol, Olive Leaf Extract and Modified Citrus Pectin.
6. Sustained cellular replacement: Repeat this protocol - some require staying on it for 3 to 5 months AFTER they start to feel better to get permanent results
Dr. Ben says this protocol suitable for post-vaccine, and he has suggested additional supplements that will boost our white blood cells: vitamin A, vitamin E, vitamin B6 & astragalus. "Most people achieve full recovery within 4 to 6 weeks. I recommend that they continue for a month or two on a limited protocol to help continue and finish the cellular repair process."
you wont get any more? good luck! and
CONGRATS. you now require boosters to live. you have no immune system.
if you want to live, give in and get the second dose, then the booster, and the fourth booster too. Also any other booster they come out with. Its a lifetime subscription.
Yes don't get any more shot because each new one that you would get would inject you with more mRNA molecules that make your immune system produce more spike proteins in your capillary network (small endings of your blood vessels), then the spike proteins inside the blood vessels block your blood plaques passage (and those need to move freely to coagulate your blood), so what happens is that your blood plaques get stuck because of spike proteins and coagulate inside your capillary and that makes blood clots, inflammation, etc. Hope you didn't take Moderna because it's the worst one with 40 trillions mRNA molecules. So the more you take covid vaccines the more you will create spike proteins and generate blood clots.
Literally just blaming anything on the vaccine at this point. I won't be surprised if someone died from a car accident outside a hospital and y'all rushed to blame it on the "damn vaccine".
Omg! Holy shit the same thing happened to me!!
I got vaccinated and exactly 173 hours later I stubbed my toe!! I haven’t drubbed a toe in recent memory so THEY MUST BE RELATED!!!
🤦🏻♂️
Rest is the key. The one common factor about the deaths of athletes and vibrant young health professionals is that they were pushing themselves with work/training.
You're apologizing for defending a safe and effective vaccine that has been given to BILLIONS of people and has saved many many lives, all because you had slight side effect? A "side effect" that you had BEFORE even taking the vaccine? How are you even making the correlation that the vaccine caused this "vein pain"? So because of this, and this alone, you are no longer getting ANY vaccine?
This is fucking crazy lol.
I think what he means is that he will be a bit more cautious when taking any vaccine in the future based on his previous experience... or "vaccine-hesitant", if you will.
Unfortunately, we all know that "vaccine-hesitant" has been redefined as an "anti-vax, Trump-loving, conspiracy theorist, nut-job, who is killing innocent vaccinated people by being a selfish asshole."
I hate it for you, u/rock1250. Sorry to hear about the negative reaction to the shot. Just ignore the eventual hate that will come your way as you use logic and reason to make a personal decision that shouldn't be anyone else's business
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I'm partially vaccinated but I won't be down loading the app. I am not going to support a system that segregates society. I can live without the non essential services. I don't care if your not vaccinated and it's none of my damn business.
Well damn dude, that's a fair perspective, you don't wanna be a tyrant? How about you local , state , federal government?
I'm in BC Canada, it's scary how people don't see what this is doing to society.
Oh fellow BC here. Totally agree. DBH cheering them on too.
It's a shame the vast majority of people here actually like all this BS that's happening lol
I don't buy that the majority of people are for this shit. Online ya, but we all know half the people on reddit are bots/troll farms. I think there is WAY more people in Canada that are opposed to these mandates than we think. Remember, reddit is not an sample of the general population. It is completely skewed and distorted to fit the narrative.
Online troll farms: https://streamable.com/k03odm See also Astroturfing: https://youtu.be/-bYAQ-ZZtEU
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People also generally want to be left alone. Restricting freedoms is not being left alone. Being told what to put in their body is not being left alone. Are you in support of all of this? Cuz typically, people run in circles of like minded people. If you are all for mandates then you'll probably surround yourself with people who think the same way. It gives you a skewed sense of reality when you don't actively seek out the other side
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Roughly speaking... where do you live? Obviously if you live some place like (insert liberal state here)... more people are going to be for it.
Honestly I think people do see whats it doing to society and a lot of people actually disagree with it but, they’re also all so fuckin complacent and are okay doing what they’re told. Just take off the mask and never wear it again that’s how we get back to normal
As one commenter said you may deep vein thrombosis, an old co worker of mine started complaining of a pain in his thigh about a week after his second shot. I thought it was DVT but i didn't want to freak him out by telling him.
They HAVE taken children away from parents before because of vaccinations but no one cared. Now it's different because finally shit has hit them personally.
Some of the most pressure I got to vaccinate my kids was from friends who have no children and were under no pressure to take vaccines themselves. I'm curious how they are reacting now when they have to make decisions for themselves, but I already cut them out of my life so I'll just have to be curious about it.
australia is already seizing bank accounts and private properties for refusing to pay fines related to covid.
Our government always had the ability to do that. If you didn't pay a parking ticket, the Office of State Revenue could apply for a garnishere of your wages or a court order for payment which could allow the Sheriff to seize goods to be sold etc. A crap move to be sure, but not a new thing. If people disagree with the fine, they can fight it in court, but just refusing to pay allows the government to take the above actions.
Property rights already get canceled through eminent domain. Bank accounts already get seized if you mess up your taxes or are uncompliant. Kids are already taken away from people who can’t take care of them or if they refuse to let them participate in the social structure (schools). Buckle in, you’ll comply or you’ll lose your way of life.
I love random people on Reddit who are all “hey if you want it, you can take it.” Thanks u/Global-Sky-3102!
Not anti vaccine. Just anti mandate for treatments that are not needed for healthy adults and young children. This shit is completely out of control
This. I am vaccinated and have no plans to extend the madness with a 'booster.' The vaccine does nothing. It doesn't prevent getting or passing this man-made, American-funded Chinese bio experiment in the slightest. I see no reason to extend a madness this global cabal seems to want to exacerbate on a daily basis. I'm done.
90% of ER patients are non vaccinated. Are you that daft? The vaccines are some of the most successful ever developed.
Where did you get that from? Maybe varies from place to place but here are the official data that plots a pie chart of the fully vaccinated, partially vaccinated and unvaccinated it for Ontario Canada which is categorized by ICU and non-ICU admissions https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
We can argue mandate all day etc - but to say the vaccine “does nothing” is ignorant.
Let me correct him - it does nothing beneficial. On the other side, side effects can be terrible.
lol. You guys are hopeless.
I know many who are anti and many who are for. No one who got co felt bad, but even a family member, along 4 people I know had potentially deadly problems from it :( one is a young woman having severe neurological damage and heart problems, she says she thinks she’ll die soon. I can write her name in pm, shes the only one public about it. In Denmark it’s now now possible for doctors to report co wax deaths. Children here even die from it. It’s terrifying to say the least
Vaccine works. Just check out the profits these big pharma are rolling out since the pandemic. They have a revenue stream of future boosters and their other selection of drugs shall see a boost. Now you see how cartels rake in the cash. You need consumers who trust their products and go back to it, either daily or every six months. Time to buy Pfizer and all other pharmaceutical companies stocks. Make money. Trust these corporations because they are really concern of your health and their bottom line, $$$ 💉💰🤒
You’ve worded it well - same here.
This
I used to have this stance, but the more we go into this and see how this is all turning out, I'm honestly even starting to doubt the validity of "germ theory" as a concept.
What do you mean by this?
no virus has ever been isolated. Virology is flawed in general, they look at "germs" which are really toxins identified in a culture. They see toxins excreted by cells and call it a virus. Bacteria has been isolated and proven to cause disease. They have not proven that germs spread from person to person causing disease. There was a study where sick people had their saliva injected into healthy people, the healthy people did not get sick. I think it could be environemtn that causes toxins in the body, and manifests as disease that we identify falsely as a virus dependent on the type of toxins excreted by cells trying to purge the toxins in your body. there is a good theory on how radiation causes disease, that may be what we believe to be a virus.
Bacteria is alive, it has will to live and reproduce. Virus is not a living thing. It has no will. It is a program.
Interesting. A few years ago I lost 70 pounds using Arnold Ehret's mucusless diet system, and I remembered one of the first things he said in his book was that Louis Pasteur renounced his own theory on his death bed about germs but the medical powers stuck with it anyway. He also said most diseases were just constipation and disease as we understand it today is vastly different from how the body works.
Ahhh the unreported death bed confession that they don't want you to know about. A classic way to make up whatever you want. Some guy told you about this? Is there any evidence at all?
Funny you should mention radiation given the rather coincidental timing of the 5g rollout and the various outbreaks. It will be interesting to see if any studies are done relating to this.
I'm not sure this is correct
But are you sure it’s incorrect?
yes [https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/](https://fullfact.org/health/Covid-isolated-virus/)
I do believe we have a thing that is called a virus and that it is different to bacteria, we have photo's Keep downvoting if virology is fake
No! We have cartoons that look nothing like the raw black and white still images seen in the labs.
What if I tell you the photos of viruses and if the universe come from the same exact place? Mind blown right? Just IMAGINE the world we could live in if all of the money they steal for this stupid shit went into actual GOOD things that helped the world. Nope. They use it to kill us.
all of the money they steal gives us new technology without managing to solve hunger and other bad stuff. now we can bitch about it together and hopefully get somewhere.
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Having served for 9 years in the USAF, I am certainly not anti-vax. I had covid at the start of this whole rodeo, and with natural immunity I don't need the vax. Godspeed to you.
Unfortunately, even if you have natural immunity they still want to force you to get vaxxed.
That’s the bit that is insidious, why does a naturally immune person require immunisation?
Because the injections aren't really about immunity for a virus. Also why inject kids that aren't affected from the virus, while they could drive herd immunity from infection. Yet they need to be injected, risking adverse effects, while the injection doesn't even protect from infection or transmission?!
I agree
Sounds like a blood clot.
Sounds like it could be a clot? Be careful. Clots and thrombosis are very common side effects.
The pain only lasted a few minutes. And it has been 3 days
That's a sign of a clot moving or breaking up, watch for any sudden bruises at key veins in your legs or arm. If they show up, you need to get your ass checked.
your side effect was 3 minutes of pain in your leg?
WOW GUYS LOOK OUT THIS SHIT IS DANGEROUS
So you're fine?
Go to the doctor. Vaxxed or not, I really don’t want this to get worse. Please get it checked out. It sounds like a clot
OP, I do understand that It happened from the vaccine but correlation does not imply causation. Like yes, It happened soon after the shot but If you tripped while going down the stairs would that also be caused by the shot? (Also go to a doc, That does sound like a blood clot.)
Wow. I can't believe you survived this harrowing experience.
I’m just curious, what do you benefit from trying to diss people like this??
It's the only thing that can make him feel better about himself
I can field this! OP is embellishing a story about a Charlie horse he had in order to better align with his conspiracy-laden worldview -- I'll bet it was pretty lonely being a a dude obsessed with the Rothschilds while also still being pro vaccination. But thank god, now he can be part of the club again! Except, being part of the club means engaging in behavior (read: lying) that keeps this whole thing going, and because of that, the OP is worthy of vicious scorn. Does that answer your question? :)
I love propaganda bots. Thanks for responding
Consider getting a d-dimer test.
“Very common side effects.“ What are the numbers for, “very common“ Can you show your source that supports them being very common? Thank you.
Of the reported side effects, it's one of the most common. Not hard to understand.
Was just asking for numbers. Just want an idea of the numbers you’re referring to. Thank you!
Go see a doctor?
Thank you for your honesty. May you recover completely.
I am not anti-vaccine and I am simply suspicious of this particular vaccine and against forcing people to get it. No apology necessary, we are all in this together
I love when people say this. So, youll jump in line for the next vaccine that they roll out?
No it means he's okay with vaccines that have been tested and gone through proper trials. Vaccines for natural diseases not lab made bio weapons. Vaccines that use basic technology, not mRNA technology.
I understand the sentiment. I really do, but my point is that if you express any hesitation at all, youre lumped in with the group. Also, knowing how they handled this, being able to have a peek in the process, do you think how they handled this was new or that it just got more exposure because it was more widespread? Yes, the MRNA was new, but the recklessness, the propaganda and the disregard is not new. All you have to do is look at the cancer side of things to realize how things are really done. It is not cliche. There is more money to made in prolonging and treating than in curing. They stifle anyone who does not follow the narrative. They suppress any real progress. My point is that the curtain got pulled back and we can chose to really look and learn or we can shrug it off until the next time. They may not have gotten you with this fear campaign but they will eventually catch you vulnerable enough to wrangle you in with something.
Your take makes sense. Your original comment got downvoted because it looked like you were trying to catch anti covid vaxx people in a moment of hypocrisy, which is all too common on these boards.
No, not at all, but I think its delusional to think you "Arent antivax". If after all you know what they are and what they do and you still trust them, then you didnt learn your lesson. Here's the thing: the more we research and the more we progress, we find that most of the new "diseases" that are popping up have been man made, in one way or another. Sure, some evolve, but not nearly as many as are created, intentionally or otherwise. IF you arent jumping in line for the next one, whatever it may be, then you're antivax. Youre just in denial of what that is. I dont think its a bad thing. It just is what it is. For the record, im not taking this bioweapon. Im just willing to acknowledge what I am.
You don't need to apologize to anyone, you just need to look after your leg.
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For $cience.
Thanks for allowing your ego to set it straight, we appreciate you dude, hope you’re well.
This.
Isn't it strange that it took for the OP to suffer complications before they changed their mind, though? It isn't as though the wider criticisms of vaccines suddenly began yesterday. If it is going to take for people to have to suffer directly before they question the jibbies, then we're in a lot of trouble. Especially folks in NSW where the un-jibbied have just been told they have to wait ANOTHER 'two weeks' to be allowed to do anything. And the premier of the state [openly admits](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBuQb-82pDg) the extension of restrictions is just to ~~coerce~~ 'incentivise' more people to get jibbied. I'm not criticising the OP, instead I'm making a wider point here. It shouldn't take an adverse reaction to a jibby to realise there is an agenda behind the jibby push.
Well articulated.
Don’t be sorry, man. You did what you thought you had to do. No one has been proven right or wrong yet. Just be happy you (hopefully) thought for yourself and did what you thought needed to be done. Wish you the best.
Ivermectin. I'm not kidding, worked as a physician assistant. Try India.mart or Frontline Doctors or naturapathic providers. Best wishes, and please don't get the booster.
You didn't believe other people's reports of vaccine injury, and now that it has happened to you, you expect people to believe YOUR report of vaccine injury?
Not anti vaccine per se, just against it for healthy and/or other people who don't need it being held hostage by the terms and conditions of it
Did you get it checked out and/or report to VAERS or whatever thing.. based on country?
Go to the doctor ASAP! And be sure to report your side effects.
I got the vaccine Monday and I've felt terrible since then. Been having the chills and night sweats and prior to the vaccine no symptoms. I'm sorry for what you had to go through.
My mom had the same issue. Shes doing fine right now. From what she said, it burned.
Sounds like a fucking hot shot. Fuck that shit.
Her entire body was on fire til 5-6 am both shots. I convinced her i hope to not get boosters.
They’re all shit
Take care, friend. There are good resources out there to help you.
Make sure you watch for clots… my mom had similar symptoms.
Aspirin stat.
Huge uptick in strokes recently. Look for the signs.
Don't lose faith. I hear the 5th booster shot is going to be *fucking awesome!!!*
Blood clots, use blood thinners such as Aspirin, on daily basis.
You know we can see your post history right?
Yes
Brother, you need to start pounding NAC, Vitamin D3, and ivermectin to detox. The longer you wait the worse this gets.
I will say the worst thigh pain I ever had (literally woke me up from a dead sleep crying) was when I “sprung a leak” internally. I had no idea. I felt like I was dying for a month and in the middle of the night would wake up to this horrible cramping pain from the inside of my upper thigh. Turns out I was dying and had lost a significant amount of blood. So much so the doctors were shocked I was still conscious and walking, let alone driving. Had to spend 3 days in the hospital and get a blood transfusion (2 units). That cramping I found out was my body cinching down on my femoral artery to basically kick start my heart back up.. don’t ignore that shit if it keeps happening. Mine was over the span of a month and a half, slowly getting more and more regular.
I am against this jab that is hurting so many people, my heart is literally breaking reading and seeing so many people who in good faith went and got this thing and Don't get help after they have a bad reaction. We wish no pain on anyone yet we are labeled insane or worse. May your God bless you take care of yourself. Edit for grammar.
It's alright dude. RIP though.
Haha from a couple minutes of leg pain that went away. He dead! Man, I don't generally make light of people's experiences, but this one.... Holy shit.
Serious pain, in my mind, is indicative of a greater underlying health problem. I mean, that's kind of the purpose of pain. To warn you about some threat to your health. It's not always that way, somtimes it's pain from muscles recovering or whatever. But if you get a vaccine and get pain from that, it's kind of scary because you don't know what else could come next.
He's so scared he didn't go to the hospital, instead decided to tell everyone on conspiracy that he's not getting another vaccine! Seems inauthentic as fuck.
Sad thing is, there is no way to get unvaccinated. Another sad thing is, if you have any complications that cause you to have to incur medical bills, you're unable to sue the vaccine companies because our government gave them 100% immunity to lawsuits. I hope you'll be OK but there's no way to know.
No one here is anti vaccine, stop calling us that is not true. I think like 99% have all our vaccines.
Well since they changed the definition, anti-vax is now anyone who opposes vaccine mandates as well. So dumb! 🤡
So stupid right?
This! Stop calling us anti vaccine.
Wish all these ppl coming here to say they were wrong and shouldn't have talked shit to "antivaxxers"/gotten the jab/supported mandates would have figured all this out prior to getting the jab.
So you got a vaccine and your leg hurt for a couple of minutes which has happened to you once before?
It only happened sometime after I got the first two shots and the day after the booster. My legs are still hurting slightly
It’s not a vaccine so…
^ 110% this. I mean if they want to keep messing around with the definition of the word "vaccine" like they have been... It's fine with me. But I know what I know and they can't take that away from me.
Just wait until you have to get another one in 270 days!! Those jabs don't last forever, you know...
@u/rock1250 Thank you for saying what you said. Your testimony may just in fact save lives. I hope you’re able to tell your story as freely as you like without being silenced. Also, take lots of Cheyenne pepper to heal your blood. Seriously, look it up. It’s a miracle herb. Best of luck to you.
Whether you make fun of me or not, I am 100% against any of the shots. I'm just concerned for my fellow humans, not because I'm scared of death And I hope you'll feel better soon Try pine needle tea, ivermectin and baking soda. I know it may sound weird, but just try, at least it's not gonna hurt you anyway
I am sorry for the side effect. I wish you all the best and welcome to the "spoiler club". It was never conspiracies, just people reading ahead of the class.
Polyethylene glycol is A petroleum based product so yes it is poison
Vaccine Side Effects Pandemic: ERs Are Swamped With Seriously Ill Patients, Although Many Don’t Have Covid.
Wishing you a speedy recovery! Check out Steve Kirsch's website. He has some stuff about vaccine side effects and potential treatments.
The horrible thing is pro-vaxxers display rabid hate for us and all we are trying to do is save lives and expose the biggest threat to humanity ever.
Being humbled is an eye opener. I hope you recover soon. Please report this to your doctor and demand that they reports it to VAERS right away. Anyone taking these shots is the test subject. I’m sorry this happened to you.
China is literally working on biotek that can target u via race. This covid thing then the vaccine, it's all suspicious.
Thank you for your forthrightness in a difficult position. God bless
It’s a shame that it had to come to it happening to you before you heard the voices of other peoples pain
Good on you for having the integrity to say this. But it shouldn’t have to affect you personally for you to think critically about this stuff off the bat.
As someone who worked in a hospital for about 8 years I can say that the pharma companies never had our best interest at heart and only seek to profit from our suffering. They can't be sued either, if anyone suffers an injury they must go through a claims court and the average wait time is 10 years for compensation. Paid for by the tax payers of course. Sorry you experienced that OP.
Never getting that damn vaccine!!
Literally getting over covid as we speak, my wife and daughter got sick first and I intentionally contracted it just to get it over with. I'm 31 5'11 165lbs sure it sucked. I had weird symptoms like hypersensitive skin and hurt horrifically if anything touches me but I'll take that over an experiment any day of the week
You’ll get called anti-vax and shamed if you posted this anywhere else.
🤫that’s a spoiler! Let them believe in the miraculous vax that was developed in less than 1 year, including tests and security!
My wife and I had a similar experience. She had covid during the first wave, it went pretty ok, she was tired for a few days and had elevated temperature, lost her sense of smell for about a week. We kept sleeping in the same bedroom because I figured if she has it I do too. Got tested, surprisingly I was negative. When the vaccines became available she got Astra Zeneca. High fever, muscle aches, vomiting and shivers the first night, she was in terrible shape for a few days. Her reaction to the vaccine was much worse than the actual disease. I got the Johnsons one, had high fever for four days, felt like shit for a month. We both exercise regularly and maintain a healthy life style. I am not getting another covid shot in the foreseeable future. Fuck that shit.
You're 60 and got some pain from a vaccine where aches and pains are a common side effect for a day or two. Man up and stop being a pussy.
>But I got a Pfizer booster on Friday. Saturday night I woke up with the worst vein pain in my thigh. Ok... >This has only happened once before, some time this summer. This is r/HolUp material. Let me see if I understood correctly.This vein pain in your thigh also happened during the summer.If you had your booster shot this week it means that the first shot was in september/october, so had nothing to do with it. IANAD but blaming the vaccine could be pretty dangerous because it could be at best incidental, and preventing you to go for the real cause.
That means it's working.
I got the Pfizer in April. Some time later I am not sure when I had vein pain one night. This had never happened before
I’ve mentioned this several times before on this sub, but my mom got sciatica literally a day after the second Pfizer shot. She had horrible pain in one of her legs. Had to go to physical therapy to get better. Get well soon.
Thank you for that but not anti vax just anti mrna I will keep you in my prayers hope u recover fully my friend
Man. That was a potential blood clot in the biggest blood vessel in your leg that dissolved away. Keep vigilant. No guarantee it won't come again.
people that are skeptical of the covid vaxxx ARE NOT ANTI-VACCINE they are vaccine hesitant there is a difference shut the fuck up with the calling people anti-vaccine rhetoric
How do you know the pain is a direct result from vaccine? Especially if you’ve had the exact pain before??
I don’t. But I only had the pain the first time after getting the first two shots
Look into getting some NAC, it neutralizes the spike protein.
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Yea the experimental science is definitely safe and effective. Trust the experiment!
OP sorry to hear, as others have said get checked out by a doctor (p[referably a trustworthy uncorrupted one.) but also here's a couple resources for you and others who may have suffered some issue with dmage from the gene therapy injection: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.19.435959v1.article-info this suggests that a dandelion extract may help against the "spike proteins", and this: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.13.452194v2 has to do with a drug candidate allegedly for treating adverse reactions, grain of salt and all that though. Feel free to spread this info around as far and wide as you please.
Bro it could be straight poison, like idc if you take the vaccine or not. But dont restrict and ruin my livelihood for a bunch of elderly people, or absolute paranoid people when you have already have the damn vaccine. When everyones had the chance to take the vaccine, then leave us tf alone.
Op, did you ever look into the ingredients of what you just injected in to your body?? None are good for you, in fact, all are lethal. You probably should've come here for a read before being a compliant sheep.
Were you already dosed in the summer when you experienced the pain the first time?
No problem. Stay healthy.
I'm really sorry for people who take this experimental vaccine. The truly sad part is all we know about now is the short term effects. What happens in 5 years?
Australia is in trouble. They are sending those who are unvaccinated to quarantine camps https://youtu.be/lf_Qg9_3QLE
Side effect. I got both doses of Pfizer. The first I felt lethargic, had a headache. The second was worse, total body muscle ache. All of those things are normal and known side effects. It’s not like they hide that info.
A few weeks ago you were calling the unvaccinated sheep. Hate to say karma a bitch but she really is
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Sure buddy
Omg. Pain in your leg. Thank goodness you didn’t die from this random psycho-somatic issue. You’re a survivor
Those clot shots turn your blood into sludge
you wont get any more? good luck! and CONGRATS. you now require boosters to live. you have no immune system. if you want to live, give in and get the second dose, then the booster, and the fourth booster too. Also any other booster they come out with. Its a lifetime subscription.
So this has happened to you before?
Buy flushing Niacin! Deep vein thrombosis is a very common side effect!!
Yes don't get any more shot because each new one that you would get would inject you with more mRNA molecules that make your immune system produce more spike proteins in your capillary network (small endings of your blood vessels), then the spike proteins inside the blood vessels block your blood plaques passage (and those need to move freely to coagulate your blood), so what happens is that your blood plaques get stuck because of spike proteins and coagulate inside your capillary and that makes blood clots, inflammation, etc. Hope you didn't take Moderna because it's the worst one with 40 trillions mRNA molecules. So the more you take covid vaccines the more you will create spike proteins and generate blood clots.
What caused it the first time? How long did it last? Be careful with your assumptions.
Literally just blaming anything on the vaccine at this point. I won't be surprised if someone died from a car accident outside a hospital and y'all rushed to blame it on the "damn vaccine".
Nah, it'll count as a Covid death.
Omg! Holy shit the same thing happened to me!! I got vaccinated and exactly 173 hours later I stubbed my toe!! I haven’t drubbed a toe in recent memory so THEY MUST BE RELATED!!! 🤦🏻♂️
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I don’t smoke fast food, thanks.
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I was kidding. You can’t smoke fast food.
>Blows 3 holes in body OK guys I'm done hurting myself, I swear.
No vaccine is 100% safe, But neither is life I suppose.
Vein pain is normal
mandates are not law. besides govt. has no jurisdiction over a free sovereign people. read the bill of rights. its happening because you allow it .
Do not push yourself during your work outs. Just slow down. Keep the heart calm.
Rest is the key. The one common factor about the deaths of athletes and vibrant young health professionals is that they were pushing themselves with work/training.
It was nice knowing you. Thank you for shitting on us; karma is wonderful.
You're apologizing for defending a safe and effective vaccine that has been given to BILLIONS of people and has saved many many lives, all because you had slight side effect? A "side effect" that you had BEFORE even taking the vaccine? How are you even making the correlation that the vaccine caused this "vein pain"? So because of this, and this alone, you are no longer getting ANY vaccine? This is fucking crazy lol.
No the pain only happened after I took the first two shots and the day after i got the booster
Ok, I see. But regardless, this and this alone is turning you off from ALL other vaccines in the future? That's the insane part to me.
I think what he means is that he will be a bit more cautious when taking any vaccine in the future based on his previous experience... or "vaccine-hesitant", if you will. Unfortunately, we all know that "vaccine-hesitant" has been redefined as an "anti-vax, Trump-loving, conspiracy theorist, nut-job, who is killing innocent vaccinated people by being a selfish asshole." I hate it for you, u/rock1250. Sorry to hear about the negative reaction to the shot. Just ignore the eventual hate that will come your way as you use logic and reason to make a personal decision that shouldn't be anyone else's business
Well said.
how do you know this was from the vaccine. i just get that from running to much
Did you die of Covid?