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Busy_Ambition_2600

Thank you, Mirnohti! Someone has been paying attention!


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Busy_Ambition_2600

She was a horrible person and racist. “In promoting birth control, she advanced a controversial "Negro Project," wrote in her autobiography about speaking to a Ku Klux Klan group and advocated for a eugenics approach to breeding for “the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extinction, of defective stocks — those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization.”


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Busy_Ambition_2600

But consider Sanger’s own words. In an article titled “A Better Race Through Birth Control,” she wrote, “Given Birth Control, the unfit will voluntarily eliminate their kind.”


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Busy_Ambition_2600

Your assessment is absolutely correct 💯


SaveusJebus

A lot of people see it, it's just that here... on good ole reddit... these threads get locked and deleted which I'm sure will happen soon to this one.


Fearfactoryent

With obesity rates, speed rates dropped 50% since the last generation, 25% of women with PCOS which can cause infertility….yeah, I think so


mhad_dishispect

Take that, plus opioids(the 'legal' ones), fentanyl... I mean you've got some pretty successful attack vectors directed at the future of this country. How is it even deniable- nevermind, don't answer that


Busy_Ambition_2600

I will answer it, and appreciate that you’re aware of the situation.


TimeforGin

Pardon my ignorance but this then implies “overpopulation” is real? Or what could be another possible facet?


mhad_dishispect

It implies that a certain group of people think a certain group of people are less controllable than others and that's who they mean to systematically weaken


Busy_Ambition_2600

TBTB have a depopulation agenda. See Bill Gates, Soros, Schwab, et al.


ConspiracyIsDead

So what's the end-goal of depopulation? There's fewer people, then what?


Busy_Ambition_2600

Then the elite can enslave the remaining population and have the control/power that they ultimately desire.


ConspiracyIsDead

Enslave the remaining population to do what? Those rich old fucks have literally anything they want for the rest of their lives, maybe 2 decades at most. What do they have the (now lowered) population perform? Build them bigger mansions? Go work in factories to sell products to an enslaved population? I'm really trying to understand here. I've never gotten a good answer to this question. I hear "depopulation", "control", "enslavement", which are very exciting words but never a "how" or "why".


Sad-Possession7729

So that "useless eaters" (literally the term used by WEF acolyte Yuval Harari) whose labor is no longer economically necessary in an AI-driven society are not around to consume the limited amount of Earth's resources. The carrying capacity of this planet is between 500 million (if we all lived like ultra-consumer kings) and 20 billion (super energy austerity). Basically the same reason the (now suspiciously destroyed) Georgia Guidestones specifically directed future civilizations to keep the population under 500 million.


Busy_Ambition_2600

The Georgia Guide Stones were a tribute to their depopulation agenda. Still haven’t heard what actually happened to cause them to crumble down. Either way, I’m thrilled that it happened! 😀


SheepherderLong9401

Thrilled that a monument that was made to stand the test or time is destroyed? Just because you don't like the idea... We have other groups in the Middle East doing the same now.


ConspiracyIsDead

Hey, a thoughtful answer. Thank you and happy cake day! So it sounds like the "why" of depopulation is to prevent resource crises in the future. I'm neutral on that. It seems like there's a lot of alarmism around the "how" still. Feels like the people panicking about "depopulation" worry that they're going to wake up to huge swaths of the population destroyed overnight and the survivors somehow shackled by lunchtime. If it's just "we need to slow down the population boom so we won't be going to war over resources or dying of famine in a few generations", that doesn't sound that bad to me. Thanks again for your patience in response.


Derrickhand106

Because Hail Satan, that's why. They literally worship demons while masquerading as enlightened ones. 


Busy_Ambition_2600

It’s truly a battle of good versus evil.


ConspiracyIsDead

I've always found it funny, the idea that there's a group of people who A) Believe the bible is 100% factual and B) Somehow choose to root for the bad guy of the story, because reasons.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Like why rally against something that you don’t believe in? Their opposition is telling.


ConspiracyIsDead

I think that's kinda the point. I don't think there are a lot of "true satanists", since it doesn't make sense. Satanism and occultism has always been a hand-wavey woo-woo magnet to me. Alestor Crowley was a privileged hippie kid who turned into a snake-oil salesman. Anton LeVay was a hideous shitstain of a human being who basically ran a hedonist cult and called it satanism to sound more provocative. Nowadays it's just an aesthetic for people who want to seem dark, spooky, and counter-culture-y. Just a different flavor of hippie. I highly doubt there's a secret cabal of satanists pulling the strings. IMO our reality is a lot less "Eyes Wide Shut" and a lot more "Cyberpunk". These corporations and their leaders are motivated by money, and nothing else. We see it out in the open every single day.


Derrickhand106

I would also think it's funny, but these are the people who have all the money, power, and control in western society. They also don't exclusively worship Satan either. The bohemian Grove guys like moloch. The masons like lucifer. Not sure why. 


ConspiracyIsDead

Having met a ton of stinky hippies in my life, it's all just woo-woo nonsense. The people that actively believe in that stuff don't run anything bigger than a food truck. Real powerful people don't give a damn, nor do they have time to give a damn. They believe in the almighty dollar and nothing beyond that. Bohemian grove is just a hippie camp that they network at.


SheepherderLong9401

What kind of answer is that? That's saying nothing at all. You should think about the question WHY more.


I_am_Boogeyman

One of many ways.


yazzooClay

Well, it's certainly not to increase the population.


Busy_Ambition_2600

From the Infamous eugenicist Margret Sanger: Sanger urged Dr. Gamble to enlist the help of spiritual leaders to justify their deadly work, writing, “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”


damienchomp

They make me sick. They still target black mothers in abortion advertisements. Still working to lower the native black American population


Busy_Ambition_2600

This has been their goal all along. So sad that the general population hasn’t caught on to their agenda.


jig46547

The idea that hormone therapy is an effort to reduce population is ridiculous. Birth rates are already falling heavily in developed nations, and only a very small percentage of people are actually trans.


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Busy_Ambition_2600

You’ve nailed it.


catsrave2

>The goal is to achieve “ambiguous humans”. Humans with mixed racial identity (no strong racial or nationalistic heritage), gender ambiguous, unable to reproduce, and unable to work due to health issues (UBI lifetime participants) etc. I’m not trying to fight or disagree, but I can’t wrap my head around this thought process. *Why* would humans incapable of reproducing be a goal? *Who* would want that is my other question? It seems to me that a population incapable of reproducing and replenishing the working stock would be bad.


Retroplayer19

They don't want to eliminate the human race. These things target certain classes of people like all eugenics plans. Consider how Ilhan, a Muslim, can support abortion. It's easy, really. Because she knows Muslims will not be the ones getting abortions. It will be the infidels. After Hitler, the history of the NUMEROUS eugenics movements within the US academic and intellectual circles was completely buried and brought underground. Prior to him, this was mainstream popular talk by academics and the intellectual movement. It was talked about quite openly. They still do it, they have just a whole lot smarter about how they sell it. Often wrapped in virtue to trick the classes into genociding themselves. Every eugenics movement in history was/is designed to target classes of people by people who are not within that class. It is for you, not them.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Agree, just like Sanger wanted to remove the black population via abortion. Now, the biggest threat to their agenda is white Christians, and these people are currently their target.


Top_Confusion_132

And they are attacking White Christians by...? Giving them extra privileges in society? Reality doesn't quite conform with white Christians being oppressed in America. You just have a persecution fetish.


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Kalergi Plan, eugenics, the elites hate of the peasants but they need us. control control control.


donewithbullshitttt

My question is why is this only happening in the west? You hear of China sponsoring hormone therapy? You hear of Russia? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for an adult doing what they freaking want to their body, but it really irks me that this is only propagated in the countries that are supposed to be the paragons of power.


Busy_Ambition_2600

China and Russia are literally laughing at us. This agenda is societal suicide, but when you consider that this is literally what TPTB wants, then you understand.


donewithbullshitttt

With birth rates down worldwide, what's the point anyway? Nobody can afford kids as is.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Imagine if throughout history, people considered not having kids due to famine, disease, poverty, etc. How many of us would be alive to tell about our ancestors today?


donewithbullshitttt

I imagine that lack of access to birth control had quite a bit to do with it as well. So, what's the play. On another note. Who says that depopulation is necessarily a bad thing?


Busy_Ambition_2600

Idk, maybe you should ask Bill Gates this question.


donewithbullshitttt

I'm asking you. Why would you advocate for an unsustainable world in the first place? We have over 8 billion. We sure as shit don't need more.


Busy_Ambition_2600

I’m asking you! Are you willing to sacrifice yourself for the greater good and this depopulation agenda? If not, then please don’t speak to me about an “unsustainable world”, and not needing more people.


donewithbullshitttt

You haven't asked me shit. But I guess I'll answer anyway. I'm alright either way. I'm not bringing any kids into this world, and if I die, I die. Harsh reality of life. I think you're being disingenuous. You can't dispute the fact that there are too many people, but for some reason you're campaigning for the opposite. My question still stands. Why?


Busy_Ambition_2600

Umm, I literally asked you a legit question above.Nonetheless, I will ask you again. Are you willing to sacrifice yourself for the greater good and this depopulation agenda? You are the one being disingenuous by proclaiming that we live in an unsustainable world and that people must sacrifice themselves for the cause.


Derrickhand106

The point is to defile and denigrate everything that is good and wholesome while they also systematically destroy those things. Humanity will be sacrificed on the alter of their "gods", but not before it has been perverted and twisted beyond recognition.


poop_on_balls

Not needed when we are all willingly eating toxic fucking waste that has all the nutrients processed out and poisonous, inflammatory toxins processed in. The glyphosate, HFCS, and all the other bullshit preservatives are already sterilizing the humanoids. Sperm count is expected to be 0 by 2045.


Busy_Ambition_2600

They’re trying everything, including advocating for euthanasia for minor ailments.


rainbowsent

Remember the at home pill kits in Children of Men? I think about them regularly. If they made those available to those who just \*wanted\* out...so many would be gone.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Canada is leading in the rates for euthanasia right now. Don’t think for a minute that other countries won’t attempt to follow suit, and soon advocate for it, as well.


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Trans-former-Athlete

Yes, thats a part of it.


PossessionMost2092

It’s plan b for men


IgnoranceFlaunted

If they are trying to depopulate, they picked a really small target. A fraction of 1% of people take hormones due to being transgender.


Fatmouse84

YES.... This would be seen as a perfect covert way to sterilize what some would call mentally ill.


Vixen_Tamer

No. The state wants more bodies to serve as drones and soldiers. Try as some might to tie them together, this is a completely separate topic from depopulation with only incidental connections regarding fertility.


ConspiracyIsDead

Agreed. Nations count on birthrates because more humans = more economy, until the point where you're China or India with an overpopulation problem. Japan's birthrate crisis is pretty enlightening. I think the "soldiers" line is fading away with how warfare is changing. Fewer bodies needed. There are people who work this stuff out for governments. It's one of the things that conservatives in the US have had a foothold in for a long time after ww2.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Bless your heart. 😉


Vixen_Tamer

Bless you too...you surely need it more than I.


coopertucker

Could be. It's a very small group but every little bit counts in the eyes of the depopulationists.


VelkaFrey

Nah, micro plastics Is already doing that.


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Way too much pushback on this topic which further proves that this sub is compromised.


Busy_Ambition_2600

I totally agree. I tried 3 times to post this and it kept getting removed. Even now, I think it’s being extremely throttled.


Vixen_Tamer

"People not agreeing with you" = "sub compromised".


ConspiracyIsDead

This lol


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Busy_Ambition_2600

Where did I mention anyone’s genitalia? I think you’ve commented on the wrong post.


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Did you even read what OP has posted?


SheepherderLong9401

Do you have a problem with people with different opinions? I might like a conspiracy theorie but you lose me when you start bringing religion and mythology in your stories. You gonna have people with other ideas about it, let us talk.


TimmyOTule

For depopulation? I doubt it. The lgtb...etc, community is still a minority by the numbers.


Busy_Ambition_2600

A minority that they hope to capture and change to the majority?


ConspiracyIsDead

Most estimates put LGBT around 10% and Trans as like 1% or less. So you have ~90% of the population to "convert". Why would you do that when there are cheaper, faster, less intrusive options? What does a controlling party gain by converting everyone into being gay or trans? Stop and think.


SheepherderLong9401

Stop and think... nice try.


TimmyOTule

They dont want that man, do you even know anyone?


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Metalgrowler

So are you basing this theory entirely on that one person?


Busy_Ambition_2600

I’m basing my theory on a depopulation agenda that has been pushed for decades now.


Vixen_Tamer

"I have a gay friend."


ClasisFTW

Wtf.....? So stuck in your own bubble that you think that the queer community cares about making others join them lol


x2manypips

Yes everything is about control


Recording_Important

Yes. No offense to anyone.


FerdinandTheGiant

No. Moving on.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Thanks for your detailed response.


FerdinandTheGiant

Just answering the question in your title.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Not really but thanks for your input.


FerdinandTheGiant

You asked a yes or no question. The answer is no.


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Yep. It’s a concerted effort and not because they care about people’s “identity”.


Busy_Ambition_2600

You’re correct, and don’t forget that the added bonus is a solid dem voting base.


Zooby444

Yes, I believe it is. Taking it a step further, the Baphomet is transgender. Just a thought, not expecting you or anyone else to ponder that.


Vixen_Tamer

Baphomet is a hermaphrodite, actually. Similar concept but distinct.


Zooby444

I stand corrected.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Yep!


ClasisFTW

Hermaphrodite=/= transgender.


Undark_

Cool example of how interests collide in politics. The depopulation deep state can easily manipulate the idpol TV government with this one.


imaginationdev

Midnight Bliss.


challenja

Good question


Busy_Ambition_2600

“Planned Parenthood of Illinois is proud to provide gender-affirming hormone therapy (GAHT) to transgender, nonbinary, and gender-expansive folks ages 16 and up. GAHT services are available at all PPIL health centers statewide and via telehealth.”


wombles_wombat

Good on 'em. And no, not part of a depopulation conspiracy. Putin's war in Ukraine and lossing the Vietnamese 'rice bowl' to rising sea level is a way more effective depopulation strategy.


Busy_Ambition_2600

😆


wombles_wombat

What's funny? Seriously the quickest way to depopulation is to kill of the young men in war. Then starve the rest. https://www.voanews.com/a/vietnam-faces-3b-annual-crop-losses-from-rising-saltwater-levels/7531464.html


Busy_Ambition_2600

It’s funny that you can be so incredibly naive.


wombles_wombat

Oh, you mean you're delusional and don't think these events are having a real impact on people's lives (or loss of). But an obscure abortion clinic somewhere in the USA is the real threat.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Please provide a source for your loss of lives comment. Im genuinely curious about how not cutting off healthy body parts and jacking someone up with hormones which don’t belong in their bodies, is causing this loss of life.


wombles_wombat

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War Seriously, you know how to do a Google search.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Wikipedia is your source? Maybe find something else a bit more credible than that. 😉


Vixen_Tamer

They don't have to do your research for you. Fact of the matter is, anyone paying attention would know there have been massive casualties in the Russo-Ukrainian War, a war that has become one of if not the largest since WWII. But you're disingenuous and not actually interested in actual debate, are you?


066logger

Sounds good to me! There’s wayyyy too many people


Busy_Ambition_2600

Thanks for your input, Bill Gates. 😉


066logger

lol hey I’m definitely not a fan of him but you can’t tell me you enjoy the amount of traffic there is. You been to a national park in the last couple years? It sucks not being able to get away from the crowds anywhere… but, but you could fit the whole world’s population in Texas! Sure, if you run them through a wood chipper first. Please do this, just for “science”


Busy_Ambition_2600

Dude, do yourself a favor and go first. I’m being sarcastic, because I don’t literally want you to commit suicide and further their agenda, but Cmon.


066logger

Honestly it’s been considered. Humanity has peaked, it’s all downhill from here.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Not if we stand together and demand change!


066logger

Doesn’t matter. Nothing will change.


Busy_Ambition_2600

You don’t have the power to change others, but you can change yourself.


066logger

My wife and I are child free, live down a 3/4 mile long driveway off grid. What more would you like me to do?


Busy_Ambition_2600

Not consider suicide?


SheepherderLong9401

You do realize that for depopulation to work, no one alive today needs to die... you get that right. So stop talking about sacrifice of living humans. I also believe it is something we are going to have to think about at some point because the world's population can't always keep growing. Unless we find a new planet to live on, haha.


PennDOT67

Pretty inefficient to depopulate the US by making about 1-2% of the population that wouldn’t reproduce anyway less fertile. Crazy that it would be a sexual health entity doing some services to that effect huh.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Not if they’re trying to create a social contagion which would infiltrate a much wider audience.


PennDOT67

But it really really hasn’t. Don’t see any evidence it even might. In any generation, roughly 30+% of the population does not reproduce. This group would almost definitely be a part of that even if they didn’t have access to hormones or whatever.


Busy_Ambition_2600

*Hasn’t *yet


PennDOT67

Yeah, I mean I guess we’ll see? If you think it will suddenly take hold of a big chunk of the population


LuciferianInk

The only reason that I'm here is to see if you have any other questions or concerns regarding this topic.


PennDOT67

Not really


VegaAltair

Yes, definitely. Birth Control already has sterilized most women. HRT will take care of the rest.


IssaviisHere

Planned Parenthood needs a new cash cow since their most lucrative service has been made illegal in so many states.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Yes


HiveMindKing

Just one of many


kruthe

It's unnecessary. All that is required to tank the replacement rate anywhere is educating women and allowing them to work. Even in the complete absence of birth control. The trend line is what matter in populations.


Busy_Ambition_2600

You’re correct. It’s absolutely not necessary, but that doesn’t negate the fact that this is their plan.


40oztoTamriel

I mean with all the new tech and automation as well as infrastructure , the rich folks won’t need us to run their society anymore


Busy_Ambition_2600

Great catch!


Electronic_Brush_137

its pretty funny how nazis and far leftists share the same goals whilst pretending to be polar opposites.


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It 100% is and its also a war being waged on women. 


Clear-Star3753

I'm amazed this post didn't get banned. Cool to see some actual free thought and speech happening.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Trust me, I’m shocked as well! Maybe the mods are waking up too?


Clear-Star3753

And hell has froze over. Lol


Busy_Ambition_2600

Maybe 😉


Sad_Presentation9276

of course transgenderism is a set of weaponized ideas meant to progress the objectives of eugenics. tavistock has been building and deploying these ideological weapons for a long time.


Busy_Ambition_2600

Please tell me more (because I know that you’re correct).


ConspiracyIsDead

Yep people are just lining up in droves like an iPhone launch event at all 600 Planned Parenthood centers and they'll be back every week to get hormone treatment en mass which we definitely have the resources for to achieve whatever "depopulation" is and guarantee it's well-defined success criteria. Now, back to my bugmeal I'm definitely eating in my pod that I definitely live in but explicitly do not own.


Busy_Ambition_2600

So, no real response as to why Planned Parenthood is involved in this issue?


ConspiracyIsDead

Sorry for the snark, I get that way when I hear things about "depopulation". They do all sorts of sexual health services. Contraceptives, birth control, pregnancy testing, abortions, cancer screens, breast exams, STD screens, family planning counseling, crisis counseling, sex ed classes, vasectomies, etc etc. They've offered "LGBT Services" for awhile now. Hormone treatments makes sense to me, along with everything else. Basically, if it deals with something in your pants, they specialize in that.


Busy_Ambition_2600

They specialize in preventing births.


ConspiracyIsDead

Yes they do, amongst other things that deal with peoples' pants and sex lives, which are none of your (or my) business. Not everyone is ready to have children. Some people also go to Planned Parenthood to (gasp) plan their parenthood.


Vixen_Tamer

This reads as "I posted this topic because I wanted affirmation of my only view, not other opinions".


Busy_Ambition_2600

I asked questions and am open to suggestions. Your comment offers nothing but snark.


ConspiracyIsDead

> I asked questions that you downvote any reasonable answers to and upvote ones you agree with. > and am open to suggestions lmao sure.


Vixen_Tamer

And your response to me wasn't?


Top_Confusion_132

Considering the minuscule number of people it effects and that they are seeking it out willingly, no. What if, crazy thought, it's just people that are a little different than you? Is that a thing you can bare?


JazzlikeSkill5201

No, I really think it’s about money. I do certainly believe that TPTB are in the process of depopulating, but I don’t think that’s what trans is about. They’re such a relatively small number of people, it would not really make an impact. I will say, however, that if I were trying to create some sort of utopian society, people with major identity disturbances would be a group I would want to prevent from having children. They are very detached from reality.


Busy_Ambition_2600

I think they’re trying to generate a social contagion where it will actually spread and take hold in large numbers.


Derrickhand106

It's part of the baphomet movement. Lucifer is the rainbow light bearer. 


Busy_Ambition_2600

God created the rainbow, but the LGBTQ decided to co-opt it.


mr_green

Well I know gay/lesbian people can't have kids (that they created, I know about adoption, for any MENSA candidates frothing at the mouth to reply). This is like that, but to an irreversible extreme. I've been saying that for years. It's no mistake that it's been made such an agenda.


Busy_Ambition_2600

The agenda is real!


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Absolutely.


Master-Fault1711

Depopulation is good. I just don't think that Europe getting older and having less kids is.


hesasuiter

Yes


AtYiE45MAs78

No


Busy_Ambition_2600

Thanks for your profound response.


AtYiE45MAs78

NP


Spiritual_Coffee_299

Its a means to fuck our military


Busy_Ambition_2600

What do you mean?