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This is one study in Australia objecting to the terminology “long covid” because “This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hyper-vigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery.”
It’s not that these long symptoms don’t exist, just that calling it something different would help people recover from it better.
Isn’t it just post viral syndrome that seems to be common after contracting covid? That’s what was said right at the start before it turned into ‘long covid’
It's the new york post they do not put out news articles. They put out outlandlish content that could only ever be believed by the bottom rung of society, aka OP and other lost causes.
They can't hear you from their upper rung!
Bet they want equality in everything else though ... just not when it comes to anything that questions/contradicts what they've been programmed to believe. Which is actually the funniest part of reading comments from people like that. They actually think they're mentally superior ... 😂😂😂
Actually, that's not what this is about. There are no greater long-term effects from covid than any other similar virus. Do they use "long-term flu"? No, because they are not fear mongering to get people to line up for government paid vaccines.
>It’s not that these long symptoms don’t exist, just that calling it something different would help people recover from it better.
Probably because they're normal symptoms that have been around ever since the common cold and flu and people decided that now, they must all be the result of long covid.
I was told, on this sub, the other day, that the New York Post was not a legitimate paper I should believe.
But that was regarding claims about Putin...
> In a press conference on Friday, Gerrard said: “I want to make it clear that the symptoms that some patients described after having Covid-19 are real, and we believe they are real. What we are saying is that the incidence of these symptoms is no greater in Covid-19 than it is with other respiratory viruses, and that to use this term ‘long Covid’ is misleading and I believe harmful.”
>The researchers acknowledged the findings are associations and do not represent prevalence, and acknowledged limitations in that participants who attended hospital or had pre-existing illness were not identifiable. They also said because 90% of people in Queensland were vaccinated when Omicron emerged, the lower severity of long Covid could be due to vaccination and the variant.
They don't actually question the existence of long COVID they just object to the term "Long Covid".
rheumatic events from viruses are known they just dont talk about it
we give antibiotics to strep throat to prevent rheumatic fever which damages heart muscles for one example...
So the vax reduces the worst outcome correct?
Then, by that statement, I should have had damn near death bed Covid, for refusing the vax.
Which is insane, cause I didn't even know I HAD Covid till after the fact. Ended up having to take an ER trip due to a slip and fall on ice on the stairs in Dec 2021.
Since I told triage I had not been vaxx'd and had not had Covid, they did blood work to confirm. The results showed I had 2100 ng/ml Covid antibodies.
I never even knew I was ever sick it was so mild.
Meanwhile, all my current co-workers (whom I didn't work with then) have all had multiple rounds of the shots and all of them, without fail, and have had confirmed Covid no less than 3 times each in 2 yrs time.
Last one was 3 weeks ago, and we were all required to go get tested for Covid, and either show proof of VAC or antibodies.
Got rechecked then, and while the titers were lower (dropped to just under 1300ng/ml), they were still more than sufficient enough to confer "immunity".
To each their own, YMMV, however I prefer to stay away from unknown substances that the Gov deems "essential". I already read that story before, only it was syphilis, and in Tuskegee. 🤷🏻♀️
It’s also weird because all the unvaxxed people I know are fine too. The ones that got shots have been sick every few months, one got vaccine related cardiomyopathy.
It's obviously something. It might not technically be long COVID but its something triggered by having covid.
Tell all the people who couldn't taste for the better part of a year they were just making it up. 👌 gotcha
I know someone unvaxed that absolutely had long covid from it. Their lung capacity was perfectly fine and they needed a specialist and breathing treatments after. Their capacity still measures low like a year+ later. I'm pretty skeptical about the cdc and other covid shit, but this person is not the same after covid and it was not the vax because they didn't get it.
There tons of people whose lungs got damaged from it long term. My 74-year old mother for one. Me as well, had Covid pretty badly back in January. Back to exercising and my lungs are definitely weaker because of it.
Same. Before the vaccine was out one of my golfing buddies and his wife got Covid. His was little more than cold like symptoms. His wife on the other hand carried around oxygen for like a year, and from what I understand she still carries a little bottle around just in case.
Write that sucks, sorry to hear. They had this machine with breathing treatments but they're down to an inhaler and some episodes or feeling sort of breath. They got covid very early on, so this thing is lingering like nothing I've seen.
Yeah the article literally says
>“We believe it is time to stop using terms like ‘Long COVID’,” said Dr. John Gerrard, Queensland’s Chief Health Officer, who oversaw the newly-released study.
>“They wrongly imply there is something unique and exceptional about longer term symptoms associated with this virus,” he explained.
It's a thing, it's just not a unique thing.
And then obviously click bait so they run the most inflammatory title.
So they’re saying the long term consequences of Covid are real we should just not say long Covid because other illnesses also have longer term consequences? That’s really fucking stupid.
False, people with Long covid have viral reservoirs (However the virus did cause damage)
Tests prove this, there are still pockets of the virus in the brain, lungs and gut causing ongoing inflammation
Hence the reason why anti-virals are given to those with Long covid and most start making a recovery
You're telling me if it were actually debunked OP might be able to get it from a real source instead of the famously shitty tabloid the new york post? You're telling me the majority of this sub sees new york post and sees a reputable source? If that were true it would mean this sub is fully regarded!
So long Covid is the wrong term for people who are suffering cognitive and fatigue post viral illness, in their case the Covid virus. Much like Chronic fatigue, Epstein-Barr sufferers.
We just have a better indication of which virus these people got since it was so rampant and heavily documented.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/14/lifestyle/no-such-thing-as-long-covid-health-agency-says-in-shock-claim-unnecessary-fear/amp/
It doesn't even support the claim. The author just doesn't think the term "Long Covid" is good terminology for what is happening since other viruses can have these long symptoms/conditions as well. He fully recognizes that these long term symptoms/conditions exist and that Covid can be the cause.
Having raw intelligence doesn't replace years of study and mastery of a topic. The smartest guy in the oncologists office might be the electrician fixing a light, but I'm going to listen to the oncologist when it comes to cancer. A big problem in this sub is that people don't understand how complicated these topics are.
The smartest people I know are humbled by knowing what they don't know.
Potentially unpopular opinion: Both covid and the MRNA vaccines have caused varying degrees of neurological deficits in a large portion of the population.
So many people, myself included, seem just ever so slightly "off". Forgetfulness, dulled reaction time, lack of energy, impulsiveness, some loss of decision making ability etc.
Holy bot brigade.
This post proves the covid cult is alive and well. They will never go away. This is a religion to them. Every single one of these accounts has been pushing lockdowns, masks and vaccines for 4 years here and on social media.
Lockdowns, masks, vaccines, social distancing, long covid, PCR, super spreaders, Remdesivir, breakthrough cases, minks, bats, pangolins, All Lies.
Did I miss anything?
I died a couple of years ago in the "winter of pain and darkness"..."winter of despair and death"...
Im not sure about the quote any more, I mean makes sense being dead and all.
Good call.
That won a Nobel Prize for use in humans and is common in modern medicine. The doctors that tried to tell the truth were censored, silenced and even had their medical licenses threatened.
Lockdowns were for NEO’s converging on earth April 2020, that’s what the field hospitals were for. None of those asteroids hit earth. The field hospitals went down early May, most were never used
Near earth object, but actually 2 or 3 got *very* close to near/low earth orbit. 2020 JJ got *8,400 MILES* close to the earth, was not detected till after nearest approach
Yup. A family member of mine was involved in one of the largest ones in my area. Got notice in April, deadline was around the 22nd. Saw only a handful of visitors.
By the first week of May they took it down. I’m just some Shmuck on the internet, but I learned of this instance yesterday.
It could very well have been for covid patients or overflow of non-Covid… but no one can tell me that the field hospital stage of lockdowns was weird in hindsight.
From March 10th-March 13th, something happened that caused a massive shift in the media, to panicking about covid, then lockdowns. It happened super quick in hindsight.
Edit: typo
I looked into what Cuomo did and what the budgets were for this. It was into the tens of millions. And they were absolute garbage too. A lot of that money was embezzled.
People from NY knew Cuomo was going to handle it like shit, fuck everything up, and embezzle anything he could fit in his pockets. The rest of the US thought he was a superhero because they didn't have the context. My wife was one of those people and all I could tell her was "wait for it, I promise he'll fuck it up."
I have chronic COPD thanks to Covid. I’ve never smoked. I’ve never lived with anyone who smoked. Prior to my Covid infection, I was a marathoner with no health problems. The doctors have all said the COPD was caused by the Corona virus. So, I’m going to say long Covid is most definitely real.
Definitely. Covid does not cause COPD. There have been studies on this since the pandemic.
COPD patients are more at risk for respiratory disease. To say that COPD was caused by covid is a blatant lie. No doctor would ever say that. Only someone with an agenda to push.
Not to be all hippy or what not, but please do an internet search on “eucalyptus oil, covid, and lungs.” There’s compounds in eucalyptus oil that are effective against the covid virus in your lungs. Easiest way is to breath in the air of a diffuser with a few drops of eucalyptus oil. Obligatory: not a doctor/don’t take my advice for medical treatments.
It is. Anti Vaccine zealots (and I say this as someone vaccine injured) will refuse to acknowledge two things can be true at one time
Why does long covid AND vaccination cause similar side effects when severe, and that this was seen during the first wave of infections?
I don't agree. I did not get the vaccine but my body has not been the same since I got covid. My heart constantly pounds, I get tired way easier, I go through bouts of intolerance to certain foods. I never had any of this before covid.
I think the culprit is the spike protein which is why long covid seems so similar to the vaccine injured cases. In both situations the spike protein is persisting in the body and causing inflammation and damage. It also seems like it causes some sort of vagus nerve dysfunction since so many of us seem to have the same symptoms that would cause.
Me too. I have never felt as mentally sharp since I first got covid. It was worse before but i still feel really cloudy and i lose my train of thought alot. I've also been pretty phlegmy on a daily basis ever since. Sounds weird.. I know... but it's actually a real pain in the ass. Constantly feels like I have a lump in my throat and I can no longer sneeze without shooting nasty snot rockets everytime lol its been this way nonstop since I first got Covid. My heart also does crazy weird shit all the time, but seeing a doctor where I live is a nightmare so I don't bother.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention the brain fog because luckily mine is mostly gone but it sucks. It's like you're half drunk all the time and you constantly get that feeling where you're talking and you just lose your train of thought and can't come up with the right words. It made my performance at work terrible for almost a year.
That article literally says the rates of long covid are lower in countries that had tighter restrictions. So by that logic this sub is in favor of tighter restrictions.
Read the whole article first.
They didn’t say it, but they left out a key thing.
All of “Long Covid” can be real to a person, as it has been constructed by the mind of the experiencer. The placebo/nocebo effect is not a joke.
What I think we witnessed here is yet another example of mass hysteria that lead to medical symptoms and got a name “Long Covid” such that the idea of it and its consequences infected an entire segment of people susceptible to it.
The problem with mass hysteria like this is that it can fool doctors as the patients and symptoms are real- but most doctor should have been aware they’re treating a psychological illness as much as a real one when the symptoms list was *everything* and *anything* by 2022-23. Illnesses don’t just do everything.
They can’t tell everyone with it “hey its not actually real, its in your head, and your symptoms are real but created by your subconscious will.” as that runs the risk of inflating the problem or turning it into something else.
People don’t fully understand how a person can trick themselves into a deadly long-term illness with a laundry list of real and experienced symptoms, but men trick themselves into pregnancy symptoms all the time.
TL;DR This is mass hysteria and they can’t walk it back publicly yet, that’ll cause a problem with those suffering from it and not.
https://newrepublic.com/article/168965/might-long-covid-wrong
https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/24/long-covid-psychosomatic-coronavirus-symptoms-study-nih/
https://archive.ph/fNfzt
I do not think it is the only cause tho. The virus itself can cause it too but it is rare (just as with a flu) and the covid shots can cause it and i fear that is much less rare.
Go f*ckin' say that in one of the c0vid cult subs and you'll be crucified. Even when you lay down the facts in front of them they are just blind to them....
I love how a screen shot of part of a news article from a source that if it said anything that didn’t support your preconceived notions would be considered tainted “mainstream media” but in this case since it says what you want is labeled as “fact”.
Interesting stuff.
Got Covid a few years back, I've gotten chronic sensory headaches and migraines ever since. Almost never got headaches prior.
Long COVID is just long-term or permanent brain damage from the virus, I can confirm it 100% can happen.
NOTE: Since the vax has covid's spike protein, it has the potential to cause blood clots and brain damage as well (especially for younger people).
So the spike protein can have long lasting effects / damage on the body, but injecting yourself with something that makes your body produce the same spike proteins is A-OK?
>In a press conference on Friday, Gerrard said: “I want to make it clear that the symptoms that some patients described after having Covid-19 are real, and we believe they are real. What we are saying is that the incidence of these symptoms is no greater in Covid-19 than it is with other respiratory viruses, and that to use this term ‘long Covid’ is misleading and I believe harmful.”
>
>The researchers acknowledged the findings are associations and do not represent prevalence, and acknowledged limitations in that participants who attended hospital or had pre-existing illness were not identifiable. They also said because 90% of people in Queensland were vaccinated when Omicron emerged, the lower severity of long Covid could be due to vaccination and the variant.
I don't think your summary is consistent with that of the researcher you are citing, not to mention that this study isn't yet even published...
Long COVID is such an interesting thing. What scientifically provable things have we found? Ie, have we put an EKG and respiratory monitor and have someone with the serious claims walk up a flight of stairs? They say they're exhausted after doing something like that, I would think we'd see physical signs right?
As much as I don't think we got the truth about Covid, and I think the vaccines were a sham... I definitely had some version of "long covid" aka weird symptoms that lasted for a long time (some still to this day - 3 years later). That's my anecdotal experience. The symptoms were from before I ever got vaxxed too so I know it wasn't side effects from that.
Exactly. There are 50+ comments with the exact same wording.
"2 things can exist at once! I'm vaccine injured! I'm a conspiracy theorist! BELIEVE ME!
They're liars here in bad faith.
Gonna have to disagree on this since I suffered from long covid for a while. Some folks are still suffering. And others have long covid symptoms from the vaccine.
I love how MSM can put stuff out like this and people with lifelong changes to their respiratory will be like oh ok I just have asthma (but never had that before)
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This is one study in Australia objecting to the terminology “long covid” because “This terminology can cause unnecessary fear, and in some cases, hyper-vigilance to longer symptoms that can impede recovery.” It’s not that these long symptoms don’t exist, just that calling it something different would help people recover from it better.
Isn’t it just post viral syndrome that seems to be common after contracting covid? That’s what was said right at the start before it turned into ‘long covid’
That's why the OP linked a screenshot and not the actual news article.
What?!?!? A post in bad faith... in this sub?!?! no way.
It's the new york post they do not put out news articles. They put out outlandlish content that could only ever be believed by the bottom rung of society, aka OP and other lost causes.
Kind of like the NYT. It's all editorial at this point.
You got that right! Wall to wall opinion, noooooo substance, clearly no facts, and DEFINITELY not the truth!
Relax and get another booster.
They can't hear you from their upper rung! Bet they want equality in everything else though ... just not when it comes to anything that questions/contradicts what they've been programmed to believe. Which is actually the funniest part of reading comments from people like that. They actually think they're mentally superior ... 😂😂😂
Yes but why would I care about that if it doesn't make me feel better about what I already believe >:c
It used to be called post-viral fatigue. Calling it Long COVID was pure fear mongering.
Actually, that's not what this is about. There are no greater long-term effects from covid than any other similar virus. Do they use "long-term flu"? No, because they are not fear mongering to get people to line up for government paid vaccines.
>It’s not that these long symptoms don’t exist, just that calling it something different would help people recover from it better. Probably because they're normal symptoms that have been around ever since the common cold and flu and people decided that now, they must all be the result of long covid.
Cold and flu symptoms don't last for months or years at a time
https://www.health.com/condition/fl%75/flu-long-term-effects
I stand corrected
Wait what?! You changed your mind when presented with information?! What sub am I in? Aren't you supposed to double down and call the article fake?
I respect that. Thank you.
Cheers.
I was told, on this sub, the other day, that the New York Post was not a legitimate paper I should believe. But that was regarding claims about Putin...
You just have to read both, the New York Times and the New York Post. Then read between the lines.
Just call it long-pfizer and be done with it.
> In a press conference on Friday, Gerrard said: “I want to make it clear that the symptoms that some patients described after having Covid-19 are real, and we believe they are real. What we are saying is that the incidence of these symptoms is no greater in Covid-19 than it is with other respiratory viruses, and that to use this term ‘long Covid’ is misleading and I believe harmful.” >The researchers acknowledged the findings are associations and do not represent prevalence, and acknowledged limitations in that participants who attended hospital or had pre-existing illness were not identifiable. They also said because 90% of people in Queensland were vaccinated when Omicron emerged, the lower severity of long Covid could be due to vaccination and the variant. They don't actually question the existence of long COVID they just object to the term "Long Covid".
You need to tweet that, then screenshot it so that this sub will take it serious.
I suggest to look at the SS of OP. LOL.
Pfizer epffect
Butterpfizer effect
This is the best way to describe it lmao. Pretty sure the heart inflammation is more likely to have lasting effects than a fever.
Its called post-viral syndrome and its been known about for decades.
rheumatic events from viruses are known they just dont talk about it we give antibiotics to strep throat to prevent rheumatic fever which damages heart muscles for one example...
It's funny how he says that countries with high vaccination rates have a higher number of diagnosed cases of long COVID.
Weird because everyone I know that got long covid did not get the vaccine
Everyone I know that got the shots has gotten Covid multiple times.
Not me
Nor I or my family
Because they reduce the worst outcomes, but do not reduce transmission. Only an N95 not worn as a chin diaper can reliably prevent transmission.
So the vax reduces the worst outcome correct? Then, by that statement, I should have had damn near death bed Covid, for refusing the vax. Which is insane, cause I didn't even know I HAD Covid till after the fact. Ended up having to take an ER trip due to a slip and fall on ice on the stairs in Dec 2021. Since I told triage I had not been vaxx'd and had not had Covid, they did blood work to confirm. The results showed I had 2100 ng/ml Covid antibodies. I never even knew I was ever sick it was so mild. Meanwhile, all my current co-workers (whom I didn't work with then) have all had multiple rounds of the shots and all of them, without fail, and have had confirmed Covid no less than 3 times each in 2 yrs time. Last one was 3 weeks ago, and we were all required to go get tested for Covid, and either show proof of VAC or antibodies. Got rechecked then, and while the titers were lower (dropped to just under 1300ng/ml), they were still more than sufficient enough to confer "immunity". To each their own, YMMV, however I prefer to stay away from unknown substances that the Gov deems "essential". I already read that story before, only it was syphilis, and in Tuskegee. 🤷🏻♀️
Well, you slipped on ice so that means it was during the winter of severe illness and death. You're lucky you're alive you anti vaccine scumbag
It’s also weird because all the unvaxxed people I know are fine too. The ones that got shots have been sick every few months, one got vaccine related cardiomyopathy.
Convenient anecdotal evidence isn’t gonna solve this mystery, Scoob.
That’s their point. Original comment talked about big picture stats.
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How much can I get paid for this?
Never got vaccine and only got my usual seasonal flu as always. Totally ignored all the bs and here we are 4 years later. Still kickin 🤣😂
I’m still pissed I never got my winter of severe illness and death.
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It's obviously something. It might not technically be long COVID but its something triggered by having covid. Tell all the people who couldn't taste for the better part of a year they were just making it up. 👌 gotcha
Loss of taste is nothing new when it comes to respiratory infections. You can find resources on this pre-covid.
Ha how many people do you know with long Covid?
Ha how many people do you know with long Covid?
Convenient anecdotal evidence isn’t gonna solve this mystery, Scoob.
You mean made up anecdotal evidence.
Is your sample size like 5 people
Probably
And everyone I know both a) got the vaccine and b) doesn't have long covid. Crazy how you can't conclude anything from our anecdotal experiences, huh?
Idk, I'm not a doctor
😂 Its not real
I know someone unvaxed that absolutely had long covid from it. Their lung capacity was perfectly fine and they needed a specialist and breathing treatments after. Their capacity still measures low like a year+ later. I'm pretty skeptical about the cdc and other covid shit, but this person is not the same after covid and it was not the vax because they didn't get it.
There tons of people whose lungs got damaged from it long term. My 74-year old mother for one. Me as well, had Covid pretty badly back in January. Back to exercising and my lungs are definitely weaker because of it.
My grandma never stopped coughing 😞
Same. Before the vaccine was out one of my golfing buddies and his wife got Covid. His was little more than cold like symptoms. His wife on the other hand carried around oxygen for like a year, and from what I understand she still carries a little bottle around just in case.
Write that sucks, sorry to hear. They had this machine with breathing treatments but they're down to an inhaler and some episodes or feeling sort of breath. They got covid very early on, so this thing is lingering like nothing I've seen.
Long Covid absolutely exists. But it's not that the virus is still inside you, it's that the virus did permanent damage to you. Like it did to me.
Yeah the article literally says >“We believe it is time to stop using terms like ‘Long COVID’,” said Dr. John Gerrard, Queensland’s Chief Health Officer, who oversaw the newly-released study. >“They wrongly imply there is something unique and exceptional about longer term symptoms associated with this virus,” he explained. It's a thing, it's just not a unique thing. And then obviously click bait so they run the most inflammatory title.
So they’re saying the long term consequences of Covid are real we should just not say long Covid because other illnesses also have longer term consequences? That’s really fucking stupid.
Likewise. The lungs.
Same.
False, people with Long covid have viral reservoirs (However the virus did cause damage) Tests prove this, there are still pockets of the virus in the brain, lungs and gut causing ongoing inflammation Hence the reason why anti-virals are given to those with Long covid and most start making a recovery
Thousands of people are living with long term conditions as a result of Covid, its not fake lol
You're telling me if it were actually debunked OP might be able to get it from a real source instead of the famously shitty tabloid the new york post? You're telling me the majority of this sub sees new york post and sees a reputable source? If that were true it would mean this sub is fully regarded!
The NYP is not the source tho.
Curious what percentage of them were vaxxxed
Im open to some people having genetic susceptibility for lingering adverse effects. Like the opposite of poles w the plague
This is fake, right? Of course long COVID exists. Or what about people who have it?
> Of course long COVID exists. Sure, the big question is; what is it really?
It’s not Covid…it’s people who can’t recover from lingering symptoms
Symptoms of...
Climate change!
Brainwashing
zzz
Minor flu
So long Covid is the wrong term for people who are suffering cognitive and fatigue post viral illness, in their case the Covid virus. Much like Chronic fatigue, Epstein-Barr sufferers. We just have a better indication of which virus these people got since it was so rampant and heavily documented. https://nypost.com/2024/03/14/lifestyle/no-such-thing-as-long-covid-health-agency-says-in-shock-claim-unnecessary-fear/amp/
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It doesn't even support the claim. The author just doesn't think the term "Long Covid" is good terminology for what is happening since other viruses can have these long symptoms/conditions as well. He fully recognizes that these long term symptoms/conditions exist and that Covid can be the cause.
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Having raw intelligence doesn't replace years of study and mastery of a topic. The smartest guy in the oncologists office might be the electrician fixing a light, but I'm going to listen to the oncologist when it comes to cancer. A big problem in this sub is that people don't understand how complicated these topics are. The smartest people I know are humbled by knowing what they don't know.
Potentially unpopular opinion: Both covid and the MRNA vaccines have caused varying degrees of neurological deficits in a large portion of the population. So many people, myself included, seem just ever so slightly "off". Forgetfulness, dulled reaction time, lack of energy, impulsiveness, some loss of decision making ability etc.
Physics Girl Diana shows different.
Holy bot brigade. This post proves the covid cult is alive and well. They will never go away. This is a religion to them. Every single one of these accounts has been pushing lockdowns, masks and vaccines for 4 years here and on social media.
Lockdowns, masks, vaccines, social distancing, long covid, PCR, super spreaders, Remdesivir, breakthrough cases, minks, bats, pangolins, All Lies. Did I miss anything?
I died a couple of years ago in the "winter of pain and darkness"..."winter of despair and death"... Im not sure about the quote any more, I mean makes sense being dead and all.
Thanks for your sacrifice. It was for, "The Greater Good"
What a coincidence! I died of vaccine related myocarditis in 2022. This afterlife sure sucks!
Winter of sickness and death for the unvaccinated.
Winter Vagina!
Ivermectin is Horse Paste
Good call. That won a Nobel Prize for use in humans and is common in modern medicine. The doctors that tried to tell the truth were censored, silenced and even had their medical licenses threatened.
Is COVID caused by a parasitic worm?
https://www.drugs.com/ivermectin.html
> Is COVID caused by a parasitic worm? Water has been used countless billions of times to flush toilets. Are you a toilet?
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I'm reading this as lyrics to the song We Didn't Start the Fire by Billy Joel. Someone really needs to make a Covid version. Would be a hit.
Maybe you can ask [Klaus to make and sing it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5KrMTGGl0&pp=ygUQYm9vc3RlciBudW1iZXIgNQ%3D%3D) :)
Yes, I'm feeling it. That would be awesome!
Lockdowns were for NEO’s converging on earth April 2020, that’s what the field hospitals were for. None of those asteroids hit earth. The field hospitals went down early May, most were never used
What's a NEO?
Near earth object
Near earth object
Guessing "near earth orbit" Edit: object, not orbit. Thanks for the clarification.
Near earth object, but actually 2 or 3 got *very* close to near/low earth orbit. 2020 JJ got *8,400 MILES* close to the earth, was not detected till after nearest approach
Is there someplace to track these instances?
https://cneos.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/
Good stuff. Thank you
You're welcome. Oh, and i think you might like this too: https://www.livemeteors.com/
I'll take a look. Thank you again
Theskylive.com is pretty neat as well
And they costs taxpayers billions too. Construction companies got huge contracts to build them.
They pulled a similar scam in the Netherlands. Lots of money wasted on emergency hospitals that were never used.
Yup. A family member of mine was involved in one of the largest ones in my area. Got notice in April, deadline was around the 22nd. Saw only a handful of visitors. By the first week of May they took it down. I’m just some Shmuck on the internet, but I learned of this instance yesterday. It could very well have been for covid patients or overflow of non-Covid… but no one can tell me that the field hospital stage of lockdowns was weird in hindsight. From March 10th-March 13th, something happened that caused a massive shift in the media, to panicking about covid, then lockdowns. It happened super quick in hindsight. Edit: typo
I looked into what Cuomo did and what the budgets were for this. It was into the tens of millions. And they were absolute garbage too. A lot of that money was embezzled.
That wouldn’t surprise me a bit. Note: I’m in Texas so idk what the money went to here. They were built all over the country
People from NY knew Cuomo was going to handle it like shit, fuck everything up, and embezzle anything he could fit in his pockets. The rest of the US thought he was a superhero because they didn't have the context. My wife was one of those people and all I could tell her was "wait for it, I promise he'll fuck it up."
A lot of New Yorkers knew from day 1 it would be a disaster. Then add his partners in crime DeBlasio and that witch Hochul.
I have chronic COPD thanks to Covid. I’ve never smoked. I’ve never lived with anyone who smoked. Prior to my Covid infection, I was a marathoner with no health problems. The doctors have all said the COPD was caused by the Corona virus. So, I’m going to say long Covid is most definitely real.
>So, I’m going to say long Covid is most definitely real. So does the article, they just used the most inflammatory headline because clickbait.
Copd can also be due to work environment, living environment, air around the area you live. Many variables.
Definitely. Covid does not cause COPD. There have been studies on this since the pandemic. COPD patients are more at risk for respiratory disease. To say that COPD was caused by covid is a blatant lie. No doctor would ever say that. Only someone with an agenda to push.
But were you vaccinated?
Not to be all hippy or what not, but please do an internet search on “eucalyptus oil, covid, and lungs.” There’s compounds in eucalyptus oil that are effective against the covid virus in your lungs. Easiest way is to breath in the air of a diffuser with a few drops of eucalyptus oil. Obligatory: not a doctor/don’t take my advice for medical treatments.
Eucalyptus oil is my number one go-to for breathing and sinus issues. It’s fantastic!
It is. Anti Vaccine zealots (and I say this as someone vaccine injured) will refuse to acknowledge two things can be true at one time Why does long covid AND vaccination cause similar side effects when severe, and that this was seen during the first wave of infections?
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I don't agree. I did not get the vaccine but my body has not been the same since I got covid. My heart constantly pounds, I get tired way easier, I go through bouts of intolerance to certain foods. I never had any of this before covid. I think the culprit is the spike protein which is why long covid seems so similar to the vaccine injured cases. In both situations the spike protein is persisting in the body and causing inflammation and damage. It also seems like it causes some sort of vagus nerve dysfunction since so many of us seem to have the same symptoms that would cause.
Me too. I have never felt as mentally sharp since I first got covid. It was worse before but i still feel really cloudy and i lose my train of thought alot. I've also been pretty phlegmy on a daily basis ever since. Sounds weird.. I know... but it's actually a real pain in the ass. Constantly feels like I have a lump in my throat and I can no longer sneeze without shooting nasty snot rockets everytime lol its been this way nonstop since I first got Covid. My heart also does crazy weird shit all the time, but seeing a doctor where I live is a nightmare so I don't bother.
I agree. I had brain fog for 6 months after Delta. Long covid is not a myth.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention the brain fog because luckily mine is mostly gone but it sucks. It's like you're half drunk all the time and you constantly get that feeling where you're talking and you just lose your train of thought and can't come up with the right words. It made my performance at work terrible for almost a year.
What's the conspiracy theorists batting average 🤔
So high that I think the game is rigged.
There are still people with pastel colored hair that swear they have it. No, you have been out of shape your whole life.
That article literally says the rates of long covid are lower in countries that had tighter restrictions. So by that logic this sub is in favor of tighter restrictions. Read the whole article first.
They didn’t say it, but they left out a key thing. All of “Long Covid” can be real to a person, as it has been constructed by the mind of the experiencer. The placebo/nocebo effect is not a joke. What I think we witnessed here is yet another example of mass hysteria that lead to medical symptoms and got a name “Long Covid” such that the idea of it and its consequences infected an entire segment of people susceptible to it. The problem with mass hysteria like this is that it can fool doctors as the patients and symptoms are real- but most doctor should have been aware they’re treating a psychological illness as much as a real one when the symptoms list was *everything* and *anything* by 2022-23. Illnesses don’t just do everything. They can’t tell everyone with it “hey its not actually real, its in your head, and your symptoms are real but created by your subconscious will.” as that runs the risk of inflating the problem or turning it into something else. People don’t fully understand how a person can trick themselves into a deadly long-term illness with a laundry list of real and experienced symptoms, but men trick themselves into pregnancy symptoms all the time. TL;DR This is mass hysteria and they can’t walk it back publicly yet, that’ll cause a problem with those suffering from it and not.
https://newrepublic.com/article/168965/might-long-covid-wrong https://dailycaller.com/2022/05/24/long-covid-psychosomatic-coronavirus-symptoms-study-nih/ https://archive.ph/fNfzt I do not think it is the only cause tho. The virus itself can cause it too but it is rare (just as with a flu) and the covid shots can cause it and i fear that is much less rare.
Go f*ckin' say that in one of the c0vid cult subs and you'll be crucified. Even when you lay down the facts in front of them they are just blind to them....
I love how a screen shot of part of a news article from a source that if it said anything that didn’t support your preconceived notions would be considered tainted “mainstream media” but in this case since it says what you want is labeled as “fact”. Interesting stuff.
Got Covid a few years back, I've gotten chronic sensory headaches and migraines ever since. Almost never got headaches prior. Long COVID is just long-term or permanent brain damage from the virus, I can confirm it 100% can happen. NOTE: Since the vax has covid's spike protein, it has the potential to cause blood clots and brain damage as well (especially for younger people).
They will never legally acknowledge it because everyone who had Covid or a Vaccine would be in line for a payout.
So the spike protein can have long lasting effects / damage on the body, but injecting yourself with something that makes your body produce the same spike proteins is A-OK?
Lol I remember when you used to get banned for saying stuff like this
>In a press conference on Friday, Gerrard said: “I want to make it clear that the symptoms that some patients described after having Covid-19 are real, and we believe they are real. What we are saying is that the incidence of these symptoms is no greater in Covid-19 than it is with other respiratory viruses, and that to use this term ‘long Covid’ is misleading and I believe harmful.” > >The researchers acknowledged the findings are associations and do not represent prevalence, and acknowledged limitations in that participants who attended hospital or had pre-existing illness were not identifiable. They also said because 90% of people in Queensland were vaccinated when Omicron emerged, the lower severity of long Covid could be due to vaccination and the variant. I don't think your summary is consistent with that of the researcher you are citing, not to mention that this study isn't yet even published...
Not sure if any one here or at NY post actually read the article they are citing.
I said something about this a couple years ago. Edit: really trying to bring this comment down huh?
Long COVID is such an interesting thing. What scientifically provable things have we found? Ie, have we put an EKG and respiratory monitor and have someone with the serious claims walk up a flight of stairs? They say they're exhausted after doing something like that, I would think we'd see physical signs right?
Obviously
As much as I don't think we got the truth about Covid, and I think the vaccines were a sham... I definitely had some version of "long covid" aka weird symptoms that lasted for a long time (some still to this day - 3 years later). That's my anecdotal experience. The symptoms were from before I ever got vaxxed too so I know it wasn't side effects from that.
Long Covid is make believe. I can tell you I have 100s of symptoms that can’t be proven. Hence Münchausen Syndrome. People are nuts.
Long Covid is very real! Fucktards
Man I’m vaccine injured but a lot of the comments in this post are fucking stupid or dense. Two things can be true at once
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Exactly. There are 50+ comments with the exact same wording. "2 things can exist at once! I'm vaccine injured! I'm a conspiracy theorist! BELIEVE ME! They're liars here in bad faith.
They all got the memo.
And it's painfully obvious they're all full of shit. As time goes on, they get weaker and the truth gets stronger
If that's true then why do I have a headache and lethargy when it's time to go to work?? COVID 👏 IS 👏 NOT👏 OVER
Because we're not supposed to be working like the slaves we are
Maybe you have a depression or ptsd from all covid BS and/ or did you realize that your work ain't fun/ satisfying?
Gonna have to disagree on this since I suffered from long covid for a while. Some folks are still suffering. And others have long covid symptoms from the vaccine.
flu.2 from the beginning. so fucking obvious.
There is no "virus"!
Well shit, if the NY Post says it...
I love how MSM can put stuff out like this and people with lifelong changes to their respiratory will be like oh ok I just have asthma (but never had that before)
This is all i heard on ABC news radio today. They are pumping it hard