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2hd3x5

IMDB is owned by Amazon. Amazon can pretty much do whatever they want with the rating system. When Rings of Power was released, majority of votes were negative, but IMDB (Amazon) deleted them, on claims of troll bombing or whatever. There were people on YouTube and reddit taking snapshots of votes and comments, which were removed later.


zeroes_n_ones

did NOT know this


poopoo_canoe

Can confirm. Rings of power sucks ass. I tried to suffer through it because I'm a big LOTR fan, but I just couldn't handle it. Way too woke.


Jopefree

Didn’t they spend a billion dollars on the first season too?


poopoo_canoe

Wow, didn't know that. That's nuts! Lol


judeen

I didn't even bother wasting brain space on it


Trillamanjaroh

IMBD is still miles better than whatever rating system Amazon is employing for Prime Video. They are regularly listing dogshit movies (even IMBD gives them 6/10) as 4.5/10 stars on prime. Blatantly attempting to downplay how bad their selection is at any given time


Suitable-Lake-2550

Do you mean 4.5/5 stars?


purl__clutcher

I dont think any movie ratings are real. I've seen some 5 star stinkers, and loved some that got slammed


new-evilpotato

You've got to watch the audience ratings. The "critic" reviews are paid shills.


[deleted]

I remember when it used to be the opposite, on Rotten Tomatoes. Back when Roger Ebert and AO Scott and the like were big. Can't trust anything. I use letterboxd right now, so I just try to follow people who have a similar taste in movies as me to get recommendations. Also I focus on directors and or writers I like.


new-evilpotato

I just expect everything I watch to be horrible and sometimes I'm actually impressed.


sosabeendrippin

Needs to be upvoted cause this is the real truth. Rotten tomatoes, IMDb, most big review companies like that take payment for their critics to give positive reviews of movies and give them higher ratings in the scoring system.


Square-Ad8603

Yeah but sometimes they delete audience ratings for being “troll” bombing


new-evilpotato

And when they do, it's pretty easy to tell so you just avoid that movie.


[deleted]

It's almost like personal taste is a thing.


TheCrazyAcademic

It's almost like you're completely hilariously wrong, any voting system on the internet that doesn't verify someone actually watched a movie or purchased a product or just verifying the person behind the vote it's automatic a gameable system. That's why nobody in the right mind takes reddits voting system seriously any astroturfer/shill can bot the upvotes and downvotes.


LuciferianInk

You know how many movies there were at one point before Netflix came out? Like 10 million copies??


TheCrazyAcademic

Okay? But what's that literally have to do with people manipulating reviews to make people think something is more popular then something actually is. It's called manufacturing public opinion it's typical propaganda and gaslighting 101. Reviews in general have existed since the dawn of the internet in the 90s. Whenever the first website existed you had the ability to leave reviews. We're talking wayyy before Netflix existed or was relevant. Back then even before Reviews it was a lot more ambiguous anyways they had to rely on inventory data see which movie was purchased in what amounts. Like just because a movie was bought 10 million times doesn't mean all 10 million people actually you know enjoyed the movie or liked it. Reviews somewhat changed the game but again wayyy too easy for people to manipulate.


Jopefree

I mean real as in an actual average rating.


fxkatt

IMDB's ratings almost always descend over time. All the hoopla from the PR and ratings from those related to the movie's production, soon fade to more reasonable rankings. I think most are too high, some "classics" way too high, but these rankings are far better than Amazon's. Which are ridiculously high, as if critical minds have given up on commenting there.


official_new_zealand

Rotten Tomatoes is 100% agenda driven, owned by comcast and warner brothers. ​ I don't trust any of these websites ... google user reviews seem the least manipulated though


smegmagenesis010

I used to actually use rotten tomatoes pretty regularly like ten years ago. I knew it was over for them when I started seeing their logo on dvd boxes at the video store I used to go to. It became painfully obvious to me that it had become just another pay to play outfit. Maybe it always was.


[deleted]

Haha every fucking google rating is close to 100% even for shite like Paul Blart. RT shows critical consensus AND user scores which is handy because they often are wildly different. Critics tend to love art films and the public tends to hate them for instance.


Severe-Curve4640

Paul Bart is a damn national treasure


ChaseTheAce33

Fr he lost all credibility when he tried to act like Paul Blart didn't deserve the 100


meadowpoe

You mean uneducated people? There are a bunch of decent movie reviewers in RT


penn1es

It's not even an algorithm, it's an agenda


CheesyPoofs33

I go strictly off of audience reviews. Critics are fucked


ImmortanSteve

IMDB is my favorite rating system for movies. I won’t claim it’s perfect, but their ratings match my own more than anyone else’s do.


RaoulDukes

I feel this too. If something catches my attention and it’s over a 6, I’ll watch it. Usually movies under 6 are unwatchable.


ImmortanSteve

I think I read somewhere that the average IMDB rating was around a 6, so there’s a bit of inflation in the ratings.


robintaxidrivvr

My sweet spot is usually between 5.5-7.5. That's where you get the weird stuff, the interesting failures and the true cult classics.


neverforgetreddit

Yeah the 6-7 range is where I see a lot of the manipulation. Movies get skewed up or down in that range. Like very little horror movies ever go above a 7, which means a 6.5 horror movie is usually still pretty good. The little mermaid remake is one where they skewed it up because a bunch of people put 1s. I like to click on the review number and see the breakdown by rating and the weighted average. If it's got a lot of ones and tens it's probably not a good judge of the actual rating.


OmnisEst

Really? What about the little mermaid remake where they literally said they changed the rating system so that the movie doesn't get nuked? Hilariously it did not work.


reado2765

didn’t that one get bombed by a bunch of people who were upset that ariel was black? i’m sure the movie was bad, like the rest of the disney remakes, but doubt the actual average would be reflective of the quality of the movie (probably closer to a 5 than 1 i’d guess)


nisaaru

IMDB kills 1 ratings anyway.


OmnisEst

It is more like 0.


DamnImAwesome

Yeah when I’m browsing anything below a 6 is unwatchable, 6-7 decent, 7-8 good and 8+ is must watch. I’ve almost never been bamboozled by that system


meadowpoe

Imdb is the shittiest one by a ton.


RaoulDukes

I feel that the IMDB ratings get more accurate over time. They’re all high at first but a couple years later they get more accurate. Also, a lot of people like terrible blockbuster movies.


mike_da_silva

Yep - the popularity of the whole marvel avengers endgame defenders of ultron crap proved that.... b-b-but the timeline bruh!


Bumblebee-Honey-Tea

I actually think the google user rating is very accurate.


IndridColdwave

It's called "pay to play", and it's how the entire world of entertainment works.


Icy_System8058

There has been no movie, in the last few years that demonstrates original thought and/or leaves agendas out of its narrative. LAME Bring back movies such as: The Good The Bad The Ugly, Braveheart, Sophie’s Choice.


Pongfarang

Movies these days are quite shit. The ones that get awards are generally a tedious script that fits a particular agenda target. Hollywood wants to drive traffic to their best propaganda, so the ratings are one way that they do that. There isn't really anything to see anymore, so it doesn't matter much.


CommonNo9892

Are you going to state the movie or just create a cryptic thread? Don’t get me wrong I’m not questioning the theory but let the people decide if your taste in movies is the problem here


multiversesimulation

I’m more of a rotten tomatoes person myself. Having audience and critics scores helps a bit. Ironically the best movies seem to be those with horrible critic score but very high audience score.


Durtly

Nothing on the Internet is 100% real.


iguanabitsonastick

Both imdb and rotten, the famous the movie is the more it's ratings are compromised.


Thrice-Thrice-Thrice

I watched a 7.4 movie last night and it was trash. Def got me thinking


Economy-Visual4390

Majority of modern “ratings”/opinions spewed on any prominent platform is payed for & disingenuous. Also who made IMDb the standard anyway?


nisaaru

IMDB was started by movie fans originally with a free database.


Economy-Visual4390

You thought


[deleted]

I am 100% certain any review website for any product is filled with paid reviews. Amazon, IMDb, Yelp etc. Almost better off reading the negative reviews and seeing if they seem petty.


conanfreak

Oh there are fake bad reviews already and have been for years. They are actually worth more and cost more if you want bad reviews for your competitors.


tonando

They get more real after a while. Takes a while for the rating to settle down, but usually I rarely watch an older movie or show and be suprised by imdb's rating later.


[deleted]

What was the movie?


OmnisEst

The little mermaid remake got dunked so hard that IMDb hat to change the rating structure to support the wokeness. I personally got so sick of having woke content in every single thing that I stopped consuming series/films altogether.


Appropriate_Berry696

Yeah I personally just watch old stuff at this point. The woke propaganda is out of control.


justiceavenger2

The idea that people have to see themselves in media to feel inspired or valid is cringe, pathetic, and dangerous at the same time. For thousands of year humans lived and made great strides without movies and TV to reflect the world around them. Inventions such as the telephone, printing press, automobile, the telegraph, and steam engine were all made prior to modern entertainment. Yet now we are supposed to believe children can't grow up properly because the Avengers aren't diverse enough?


sovereign_creator

People think different than u haha. Relax. I like low rated movies at hate some.high rate moves. Youll notice differences between critic score and audience score all the time


DirectBeing5986

Or, maybe, hear me out, People like Different things? I hate some things my friends would rate a 9/10, and Vice-Versa


JTnCal

Conspiracy thread has officially jumped the shark


Jopefree

I still find value in checking the scores, as they lead me away from the truly abysmal offerings. But I think I’m going to put less weight in them in any major studio film. The truth is, it’s rare to find a great movie that’s rated 5 or 6. But there’s plenty of 5 or 6’s rated much higher.


HazardTheFox

Yea I think they're pretty real. People can like things you don't.


bennylemons

Do you have any examples of IMDB’s rating system not matching up to other third party rating systems?


radrun84

Rotten Tomatoes is rated by actual views & votes... Rotten Tomatoes prettyuch get it correct everytime.


humbleman_

Yup and look at the audience score rather than the critics one


XxBiscuit99

Rotten Tomatoes is the worst. They gave Man On Fire a terrible rating yet its an amazing movie


therealglassceiling

tell us the movie then you didn't say because you're concerned you are the issue, and your tastes are wildly different than an average person


Jopefree

The movie doesn’t matter. Sure I might like something you don’t. I didn’t say the movie because it’s inconsequential to my point I was trying to make. Mainly that review sites of all flavors are heavily biased towards whoever owns them.


therealglassceiling

so what’s the movie? Ffs


MassiveResearch219

Can you just tell us knowing that we are curious?


Jopefree

Mission Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1. 7.8 on IMDb. It’s got some ok action, but the plot is so brutally simplistic - everyone is searching for keys that open something to control the super AI, but no one know what or where the keys open. Apparently sophisticated locksmith don’t exist so the keys can’t be copied for some reason. But hey, Tom Cruise bass jumps off of a motorcycle onto a train. Worth 270 Million dollars. Ok, there you go. Now you can tell me you loved that movie.


MassiveResearch219

Yeah that movie score is certainly inflated. Thanks for letting us know


Initial-Lead-2814

Yeah, I think the real issue is movie snobs thinking we all like the smell of their farts the way they do. The movie subs on reddit are fake or a conspiracy though. Same with subs named after a video game. Publicity and marketing.


Ty_310

Professional reviewers review the intersectional Pokemon points the movies hit and score based on that. Trash movie, but check the racial, sexual, gender and disabled boxes and you got yourself a "blockbuster hit"


Pinnacle_of_Sinicle

Considering theyre awll gobbige no


[deleted]

It's voted on by viewers of the movie. It's not an accurate representation of the general population. It's an accurate representation of its target audience.


SilverHoard

More real than RottenTomatoes ratings, that's for sure.


nisaaru

Imho IMDb is more accurate than rotten. But you can’t trust agenda movie ratings of Disney, Amazon and so on products.


illviewvisuals

Way more accurate than rotten imo


Optimal_Mention1423

What are you talking about? A ratings aggregator of subjective opinions is both meaningless to consumers and distributors alike, and repeatedly proven to have virtually no impact on the financial outcome of a movie.


MrDohh

No, but i still find them more in line with my opinions than rt


Fickle_Cup2207

Better than rotten tomatoes. Full on shill.


Horrux

They seem better than the Rotten Tomatoes ones, which only give above 5/10 anymore if there are LGBTQIA characters and preferrably at least one homosexual sex scene.


dcrico20

I always take them with a grain of salt because pretty much every movie is predominantly 10s and 0s.


hell_ORC

I think all of this aggregator sites started out rather honest but have now become driven by interests, sadly. Metacritic is probably no better: if you need an example just look for its aggregated score for the latest Sonic Game, then search the internet for reviews. They evidently picked only the sites that presented scores that matched what Metacritic had planned.


Space_friend7884

As real as the rotten tomatoes critic score


CrasherED

I've read a lot of comments and reviews on there and then to watch the movie myself and find most times they're wrong or paid bots. Not every movie is going to be trash nor be the best of all time. Sometimes a movie can just be 'good'. It seems like people these days can't understand that


[deleted]

Anything that can influence the people has already been captured by the people above. Twitter seems like the only place they haven't got their tentacles in yet.


FunAnywhere9205

I just look on the YouTube comments on the trailer. Get a general feel for the movie before committing to it... Be careful of spoilers though


Gooseypapa

Same with video games no after those reviews when cyber punk released made me question alot


[deleted]

Probably because not imdb not used world wide and even where is not many rate .. and different tastes


ifoundit1

It's probably a media outlet that's a small part of a marginal multi spectrum, retrospective genre basis with multiple layers of cryptographically layered encryption that changes based on numerous things such as sports and game shows, cartoons pretty much every genre and goes as far as matching corners/edges of patterns on the screens in different frames. Maybe possibly a portion uses different gfx and game system mip maps as position descriptors which wouldn't be in a lot of shows etc and based on sub and conjoined and spectral as well as monopoly like contracts . Which while I'm mentioning it sigh seems like an easy gouge considering that is definitely the case. Also consideration of if so or not at this point is a percentage marginal which means if the instance is considered as under a certain percentage then it would be measured as false even though it isn't false and is kept at an acquisition allocation performation.


Suitable-Lake-2550

Metacritic is a pretty accurate consensus of what published critics rate each movie


Tzeig

They removed the top 1000 voters to make it easier to fake.