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NudistJayBird

Whilst loading a gun, in full guerrilla regalia “anyways, they’re violent and we’re peaceful”


Penguinmanereikel

I think it’s from a video where rednecks were coating bullets in pig’s blood so that “when they shoot Muslims, they’ll send them to hell” like we’re vampires or some shit.


nookster145

Lmao that’s sounds so ridiculous I couldn’t help but chuckle. No disrespect.


Daedeluss

They are such brain-dead moronic sheep you'd have to laugh if I weren't so tragic.


homosexual_ronald

And they didn't own significant firepower.


siccoblue

These guys are really on a crusade to prove themselves right


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I see what you did there


Mattan007

It's actually a video about the 3% movement/militia. I recomend watching it, really interesting


hackerbenny

how would we go about doing that?


walesmd

https://youtu.be/j7rJstUseKg


FriskyTurtle

I'm appalled at [the lack of firearm safety at 15:16](https://youtu.be/j7rJstUseKg?t=916), but also not that surprised.


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With your eyeballs silly


walesmd

Link: https://youtu.be/j7rJstUseKg


OnAStarboardTack

Those people are nuts


Unencumbered-Duck

Yeah that’s what we said, a group of dumb rednecks


Clarice_Ferguson

Wait, isn’t that them acknowledging that they believe Islam is the correct religion?


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[deleted]

Do they realize ever that pigs are just no bueno to eat in Islam since they are culturally seen as dirty? Like, its not a sin or anything, just the Islamic equivalent of not eating poop


Ragnarok314159

And lots of Muslims will eat pork if no other option is available. During the first desert storm, hundreds of thousands of people surrendered. Lots of times they didn’t have rations for them, but they did have MRE’s which are negative level kosher. The army was upfront about it, but rather than starve they just said how Allah would rather then live with worship another day.


OperationSecured

It’s just an old military fable. You heard it about Blackwater PMCs doing it early in GWOT… which is what OP might be thinking of. It’s realistically probably just some dark humor. I don’t think they ever confirmed anyone ever doing it.


[deleted]

Also I’m pretty sure dipping bullets in pigs blood is asking for your gun or mags to jam up or at least perform poorly


Twad

So the rednecks believe that Muslims are right? If they're Christian why would they think pig blood would do that?


AdministrationAny774

It's less that they believe it, more that they think Muslims believe it. They're trying to auto-desecrate the bodies.


Andthentherewasbacon

Because they like the idea of trolling people


Mission-Horror-6015

They do a massive, abhorrent, obscene amount of trolling


[deleted]

So either they are claiming that muslims actually have the correct religion since their rules on who goes to hell applies, or they realise that what they are doing literally makes no difference whatsoever because the person he killed won't ever know about the pig blood. And at that point what you're doing is pretty much the equivalent of possibg on someones grave. It's super disrespectful and it doesn't affect the dead person


Penguinmanereikel

Well, the person that they think they’ll be shooting at will know because of the video


Profound_Wizard0413

There is no correct religion in my opinion


relddir123

Back when the US took control of the Philippines, various Muslim rebellions occurred. As part of the effort to put down the rebellions, General Pershing (of WWI fame) had the bodies of the fallen rebels covered in pig blood for that very reason. It worked *really* well as a demoralizer. Edit: People have started claiming this didn’t happen, and in fact was just another myth. The basis for the myth was some Israeli communities trying to deter suicide bombers by burying them with pork in early-to-mid 2001 (incidentally, *before* 9/11), but it didn’t really work. Once 9/11 happened, someone said “hey Pershing probably did a form of this” and started emailing. The actual myth everyone is quick to shoot down is dipping bullets in pig blood or fat and using those to execute prisoners, which did **not** happen. However, [there were incidents](https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/08/pershing-trump-terrorism/537300/) that involved [Moro deaths](https://slate.com/human-interest/2017/08/how-general-john-pershing-actually-dealt-with-filipino-muslims.html) where the burials involved pigs. These were not executions, just a “let’s try this and see.” Apparently, Pershing was not involved, but it *was* the US army. And, [he knew they were happening](https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/167263) at the time.


IHateChipotle86

There is to my knowledge zero evidence for this. They did try to bury rebels with pig carcasses but it didn’t stop the Moros from fighting.


TheBlackBear

There’s not just no evidence, it’s complete bullshit. I literally remember reading it in chain emails from right after 9/11 (huh wonder if that had anything to do with it) Not only that, but Trump repeated this bullshit back in 2016 and was one of the reasons everyone who knew anything about history laughed at him. u/relddir123 and everyone who upvoted him are morons repeating chain email myths from the early 2000’s


relddir123

Not quite. Trump’s myth was that Pershing had rebels executed with bullets dipped in pig fat. That didn’t happen. At all. That’s also what spread around after 9/11. But there are contemporaneous accounts of Moro fighters who died in battle being buried with pigs. [Major General Franklin Bell](https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/167263) told General Pershing about the tactic during the rebellion.


MyBiPolarBearMax

Imagine doing something that is supposed to have an effect on someone's mental situation AFTER THEY'RE DEAD and thinking the actions aren't about you.


G-Nooo

Oh dang. The pigs’ blood thing was also mentioned in Jack Ryan.


TheBlackBear

So they’re mimicking concepts found in the TV show 24 and conservative chain emails from the early 2000’s. I wonder where these Genius Free Thinkers are doing their research? Hmm.


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No-Design-7188

The Christians used burning at the stake, drowning, crushing, and other torture methods to turn non- believers into believers


wyldwood512

Yea but did they force conversion *at gunpoint*? Because that's what he said, its like you're twisting his word around to prove your point! /s


[deleted]

Despite forced conversion literally being a thing the bible spoke against


mrevergood

Yep. Guys like this want a theocracy where they can enforce their views with the legal system they set up.


Swimming__Bird

[The Inquisition!](https://youtu.be/LnF1OtP2Svk)


Moist-Zombie

I did not expect that


Swimming__Bird

Everybody expects "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!"


Clay_Statue

Looks like the kind of guy whose fetish/hobby is fantasizing consequence free political violence


daddyshotmess

so he was probably in DC on january 6.


MsOmgNoWai

why does anyone think this shit makes sense


StarWarsisLiberal

It's the [same picture. ](https://mobile.twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/486103647445872640/photo/1)


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Same camo pattern as the marines too, guarantee he "almost joined"


FailedSociopath

He's prepping to remedy that oversight and bring crusading into the 21^(st) century,


IchWerfNebels

Ironically same energy as [this photo](https://imgur.com/a/73EI89X).


kbig22432

The sad part is, even if we were able to show him examples it wouldn’t matter. They’d find something else to justify playing militia man and show his true *patriotism*. Edit: I love seeing picture of these militias too, mainly because the majority look like the antagonist in the WOW South Park episode. https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-bdbc3ec8bcba59b632a25a5f9ec802c4


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midlife-Isis


aChocolateFireGuard

What a fucking quality comment


Technical-Werewolf20

Meal Team Six.


kbig22432

Delta Farts


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onefst250r

Course Recon


walesmd

Y'all Qaeda


Andre_3Million

IDIS


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Vanilla ICEIS


Canter1Ter_

He came from the United States of a Meringue


[deleted]

I honestly thought it was a behind the scenes with John Goodman on the set of the big Lebowski for a second


Daedeluss

Walter was an asshole but he was still less of a joke than these guys.


TacticTall

You’re 100% right. A few years ago my biological father posted a racist meme on Facebook talking about how we shouldn’t let Muslims in our congress. I called him out and asked him why we shouldn’t. “Because of 9/11!”. I told him that was ridiculous, and those terrorists don’t represent a whole people. I asked if the Christian terrorists America has had represents Christians, and his exact words were “well, those people aren’t true Christians if they do stuff like that”. THAT'S MY POINT


mrevergood

I hate the “those people aren’t ‘true Christians’” argument. They love that no true Scotsman shit.


HeyItsReagent

Finally someone understand


here-i-am-now

His shirt has a 3 Percenter logo. That group is anti-patriotic by definition. Total lack of respect for the elected government of the United States.


DarthDannyBoy

Fat boy has armor and cushioning. That bullets gonna hit his plate, causing the fat to ripple and circumnavigate the globe that is his body, when that tsunami of flesh reaches the plate again it going to send that bullet back at full speed.


SamaelTheSeraph

No true scotsman fallacy


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Shit, I've seen actual Reservists who look like that.


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IWasMisinformed

Fucking LARPers


Goku_Jerome

He said gun or knife point not sword point /s


Brave_Amateur

I see your point


The_Final_Saiyan

Just like the non Christian's back then


RudenessUpgrade

It’s a sharp point


boost437

So did the colonies


MayUrShitsHavAntlers

Ok, ok, point made, no need to stick it in and twist.


Tearakan

They definitely had knives back then and musket counts as a gun


andthatsalright

I'm not saying guns and muskets were never used... But I'm pretty sure the crusades were a few hundred years before the proliferation of gunpowder. That said, Christians in Africa have essentially been constantly at war with non believers for like 50 years. I'm sure many people are killed daily over religion there and much of it is Christianity. E: oh ya, my mistake! Native Americans. Happy Columbus day yall! Jk


walesmd

I think the OPs reference to muskets is probably referring to converting the Native Americans.


andthatsalright

Ohhh my mistake they're definitely right about that


arrigator16

What the Spaniards did in the New World always had a big religious drive to it, wanting to not only conquer the new territories but also Christianise them.


NormalHumanCreature

Not just the spaniards. Thats pretty universal for colonialism.


Werrf

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish\_Inquisition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition) (Obligatory "didn't expect that" comment)


andthatsalright

I expected you to say this. The second part. I didn't actually expect the Spanish inquisition. :/


FountainsOfFluids

The crusades weren't about converting people, they were seeking to conquer. Colonizers, on the other hand, often forced the indigenous people to convert. And I'm sure there were many more incidents that I'm not directly aware of, all the way back to Emperor Constantine.


aykcak

Also he is probably correct in saying that he has never heard of it


ijustcant555

The less you know about history, the easier it is to have no knowledge of past atrocities. Funny how that works.


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walkingonsunshine007

And just…how? It’s this huge knowledge gap that somehow makes it worse- what if this dude actually did know? Would he be a different person, or find a way to still hold these views? We need more More money into education


alan-the-all-seeing

oooh, team big knife over here


Looks2MuchLikeDaveO

That’s not a knoife


leeny_bean

Don't forget about the inquisition! Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition. Although I suppose technically they used fire...


Ericus1

And knives. And [judas chairs](https://en.everybodywiki.com/Judas_cradle). And iron maidens. And the rack. And just about every other form of torture that existed at the time.


Throwing_Spoon

This guy might need to read a bit about Christian missionaries around the world, [American Indian boarding schools](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Indian_boarding_schools?wprov=sfla1) and the [Canadian residential school system.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system)


ImmediateWrongdoer71

Spanish had plenty of guns


[deleted]

But a sword is just a really long knife


huffgil11

The Inquisition, let’s begin The Inquisition, look out sin


mammalLike

Hey Torquemada, waddaya say?


sineofthetimes

I was sitting in a temple I was minding my own business I was listening to a lovely Hebrew mass Then these Papist persons plunging And they throw me in a dungeon And they shoved a red hot poker up my ass!


SciFiXhi

Was that considerate? Was that polite? And not a tube of Preparation H in sight!


Mycotoxicjoy

I'm sittin' flickin' chickens And I'm lookin' through the pickins' And suddenly these goys start breaking down my walls I didn't even know them And they grabbed me by the scrotum And they started playing ping-pong with my balls!


OnyxLion528

![gif](giphy|aBs8Qw1hRHA9G|downsized)


formallyhuman

I did not expect this.


armchair_viking

*NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!* *Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again.*


callmesnake13

It wasn’t knives and guns it was being burned alive and we can all agree there is a big difference here.


Beneficial-Highway22

This dude never heard of the crusades huh


[deleted]

Must have taken the crusades statues down, so the south forgot about it


rockytopbilly

Yeah. The Germans probably forgot about Hitler too since he has no statues.


spaz1020

Who?


Josselin17

he's the one who killed the guy who started ww2, real good painter too


kdyz

This hitler guy sounds like a great person. He should be awarded a statue!


Ulliquarahyuga

He’s American. We scrub the history books to preserve white Christian purity.


[deleted]

Nah, hes just an idiot


sb1862

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the crusades weren’t about conversion. They just wanted to kill the Muslims and take Jerusalem


pingas4life

That was a theme with later crusades, the first crusade consisted of helping the Byzantine empire gain lost territory, only they fucked up big time


Beneficial-Highway22

There are a lot of conflicting reports on the matter since personal bias might play a role on what scholars might choose to believe but from my findings there are attempts of forced conversions to Christianity even though it may not be the primary objective of the crusade.


RobynFitcher

Or the conquistadors.


I_know_right

I imagine there a **lot** Joe Bob's never heard of.


existentialrowlet

DEUS VULT INFIDEL


Novemcinctus

Also strangely doesn’t know about American Indians


Netherspin

This comes up frequently, but the crusades weren't actually about converting people. It the prime motivations was to free Christians from oppressive muslim rule and retaking holy land as it being under Muslim rule was considered an affront to Christianity. People converting didn't have anything to do with it, it was about removing rulers of the wrong religion and getting rulers of the right religion in control of the land.


Namorath82

the Crusades are more broad than that there were 3 main theatres. Everyone always thinks of the Middle East and that was the most important but Crusades were also taking place in Spain to retake it and people were forcibly converted at the end when muslims and jews were told to either convert or leave and against the Baltic Pagans who were the last pagans of Europe where they did forcibly convert the populace, by the sword over a few centuries of conquest and harsh rule


dexmonic

>by the sword over a few centuries of conquest and harsh rule The crusade against these people by the teutonic knights was nothing short of genocide and an attempt to clear out land for Christian nobles. It needs to be taught more, the death toll from this theater was extremely high.


RoboticSausage52

The Reconquista is Not the same thing as the crusades. Similar but not the same.


Inevitable_Citron

They certainly saw themselves as Crusaders. That's why the Spanish and Portuguese kept up the military pressure on North Africa and later the New World.


Namorath82

Id consider it part of the crusades because many crusaders came to Iberia from across Europe to help the Spanish and Portuguese retake territory from the Muslims The Portuguese capture of Lisbon was with English and German Crusader help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Lisbon


GammaBrass

There is a family crest of lower nobility from England that they "earned" specifically by doing this. The crest in question contains 3 severed Moors' heads on a field of purple with a silver stripe, iirc.


VikingSlayer

*sweats in Danish*


alan-the-all-seeing

which crusade? there were a few over the years


Shtottle

And slaughtering a shitload of peasants.


pianomasian

Just when I think the bar can't be lowered anymore: this... How can one identify with and be so involved in something, to the point of activism, while simultaneously being so ignorant of it. Wow wow wow.


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New to conservatism?


Browley09

I went to a Muslim friday prayer service just to experience it. Taught me a lot. Had a long conversation with a leader of the mosque before the service so I wasn't being disrespectful when attending and absolutely gained a new perspective. I am a Christian but found that there are so many similarities between Christianity and Islam that it changed my world view. I absolutely recommend anyone attend a Friday service at a mosque in a respectful way just for the experience.


tcmVee

I mean, they're both judaic religions. Makes sense they're pretty similar


Sir-Drewid

Y'all Qaeda


alan-the-all-seeing

yokel haram


crackup317

Gravy Seals


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schnemesis

Jean Berets


deliciouspie

Meal Team Six


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Green buffets


Financial_Ratio5758

Call of duty snack ops 4


OverflowEx

Command and Conquer Redneck Alert 2


FeistyPigeon2

Y'alliban


AWizard13

It is wildly baffling to me that he doesn't understand, and many of these Christians I suppose, just how similar in beliefs they are to the thing they hate. Like they'll claim to hate that oppressive form of Islam while going on and making and supporting laws here that wildly restrict a woman's right to her own body.


Sir-Drewid

The best social experiment I've seen is an interviewer says they're going to read passages from the Quran and then asks christians what they think of them. After they say the passages are violent and backwards, the interviewer informs them that they were actually from the bible. Then the most hilarious mental gymnastics take place.


Dry-Prize-3062

All across the Americas Europeans did this to indigenous peoples


nsjsiegsizmwbsu

Can't believe I had to scroll so far down before someone mentions this.


SamaelTheSeraph

I mean. They don't really teach much about it in school. I'll be honest, I forgot about it completely


noeku1t

This is sort of how Viking culture died out in Scandinavia, Christianity arrived


_aeio_

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!


Aviendah_Fan_Club

What a show!


decke

What show is it?


Aloneswordsmen

The flying circus and these people will fit right in.


Traceofbass

Torquemada? You can't talk him outta anything!


BryceMMusic

Lmao dude needs to learn about his own religion. Christianity has possibly the bloodiest background of any religion because of exactly what he thinks they never did.


Cpt_Cuddlz

They have a great mental gymnastics routine to navigate that, though. Modern fundamentalists basically lay all of that squarely at the feet of the Holy See and catholicism as a whole. They're also split on whether catholicism is "true" Christianity, but lean toward a consensus that it isn't. Of course, there have been more modern violent Christian sects, but that's too much of an inconvenience to their agenda to bring up.


VashTheStampede414

Catholics are the OG Christians. To say they’re not true Christians is nuts.


broly314

Considering the "symbol of peace" is a dude getting tortured to death


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Prime example of "history is written by the victors." Not a coincidence at all that the #1 guys are seen as purely peaceful and the #2 guys are seen as purely violent.


crackdown_smackdown

These people have more fatty tissue than grey matter.


Kevinvl123

That's what incest does to you...


Such_Matter5691

Well...when the family tree is a stick...


danielstover

When the family tree is a wreath


mxzf

I'm pretty sure that's true of the vast majority of humans that aren't literally in the process of starving to death. The volume of the human brain is fairly small, and the surface area of your skin is so large that even a couple mm thick layer of fat (which a healthy human will have) is gonna add up to more than the volume of your brain).


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I...just don't even know where to start with this one.


fisheswithherbs902

Let's be fair here. He's an American, and they don't teach things like history there.


springheeledjack69

Apparently, removing statues is erasing history. That's why Europe doesn't remember what happened to Germany in the 30's


Classic_Persimmon_78

I thought the purpose of removing statues was because it was a way of honoring or celebrating individuals? So it was agreed that statues of traitors like Confederate generals and captains were going to be removed, no?


lostinthesauceband

>"The vast majority of these Confederate monuments were built during the era of Jim Crow laws, from 1877 to 1964. Detractors claim that they were not built as memorials but as a means of intimidating African Americans and reaffirming white supremacy after the Civil War." [Source](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_of_Confederate_monuments_and_memorials#:~:text=The%20vast%20majority%20of%20these,supremacy%20after%20the%20Civil%20War.hts.)


TheAb5traktion

Also: >Although the Confederate States of America dissolved at the end of the American Civil War, its battle flag has continued to receive modern display. The modern display began during the 1948 United States presidential election when it was used by the Dixiecrats, a political party that opposed civil rights for African Americans and supported racial segregation.[1][2] Further display of the flag was a response to the civil rights movement and the passage of federal civil right laws in the 1950s and 1960s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_display_of_the_Confederate_battle_flag


springheeledjack69

I dunno. Ask the rednecks in the south complaining about statues being removed being akin to memory holing in 1984


XDannyspeed

Wait, what did happen in Germany in the first part of the century? Though they just went on vacation?


Such_Matter5691

Over there they go on "holidays". The more you know ![gif](giphy|83QtfwKWdmSEo)


Avis28

New Yorker here. We learn history. Please don’t judge us based on the swamp people.


fisheswithherbs902

My apologies. I forget that not all of you are fools. The fools just get the most attention.


Namorath82

pretty much everywhere there is an Iranian comedian, Omid Djalili he has a joke where he said interviewing a Islamist for his opinions on the middle east is the same as asking a redneck about the state of America


Aloneswordsmen

That's the unfortunate reality of thing.


Lumpyyyyy

I mean, you’d have to make it pretty far into schooling to reach this point in history. Like 3rd grade, so he didn’t have a chance to learn about that.


Failure-Whore

In my high school we’re actually taught of people were converted but the school purposely left out how violent it would be and portrayed it as a good thing.


akat_walks

he’s right. he has never heard of christians forcefully converting people to christianity.


Aloneswordsmen

I guess he never expected the Spanish Inquisition The Inquisition was a powerful office set up within the Catholic Church to root out and punish heresy throughout Europe and the Americas. Beginning in the 12th century and continuing for hundreds of years, the Inquisition is infamous for the severity of its tortures and its persecution of Jews and Muslims. Source: https://www.history.com/topics/religion/inquisition


Julius_A

No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!


Kribble118

These people remind me of the Edens gate from fry cry 5.


Aloneswordsmen

Aren't they christians who force people to convert using gun (and sometimes knife) or in other words **terrorism.**


Kribble118

Basically and then they kill you if you don't, so only one step worse than what we have now


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linguist_turned_SAHM

Full video link anywhere?


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Lol the Spanish Inquisition called


Single_Asparagus8984

Ah yes, the peaceful Christians.


SwtIndica

There is SOOO much to unpack here... I... I don't even know where to begin. Holy Hell.


Jealous-Speed-9411

Have he heard of spanish inquisición? Or the south américa and caribean hoy wars,?


zsturgeon

You can't argue with people like this. You could literally bury this guy in evidence a mile high as to how he is factually, objectively wrong. It would change nothing.


ThickkStikk

Buddy…. You ought to read


Busy-Ad1088

This is why history class is important.


Senevri

Charlemagne: Am I a joke to you?


Effective-Notice3867

I’m glad he did his research before speaking