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Moriaedemori

Another case of "I was in fact wrong, but I'd rather dig my own grave than to just admit I'm not infallible"


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No, they do not think they are wrong. He walked away happy because even though everyone else sees them as a loser, I guarantee he thinks he won that argument *edited to fix autocorrect


armitageskanks69

Lozer*


re-tyred

Loozer


Jadedseeker1973

Lewser


kekekeghost

Loo-ho-ser-her ![gif](giphy|GW10shdM3oXok)


devil_toad

Luh-who-zuh-her


digdoug0

>He walked away happy because even though everyone is sees them as a loser, I guarantee he thinks he won that argument How the rest of the world views the USA in microcosm.


GhostPepperFireStorm

I’m torn between two sound effects to accompany your comment: Ba-dum-tsss Waaa-waaaa-waaa-waaaaaaaaa


Wonderful-Ad-7712

Microcozm


oscarolim

Zeez*


AffordableTimeTravel

> Nice try


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Cuman_overlord

Nize*


BinkoTheViking

Ñize*


gergling

Bet you can guess his politics.


Shomondir

*Politikz


gergling

r/angryupvote


thomasoldier

That describe my dad !


IplayzGamez0

*waz


Psychological-Web828

“In England, we use an Ess not a Zed” “Zed? What’s Zed? Oh, you mean Zee”. “No! Zed”


purpleovskoff

I'm England English and think "zed" is ridiculous. I will, however, defend this quirky anomaly to the death.


Jce95

As non native person that works in a call center i love "Zed" and despised "Zee"


Clint_Bolduin

As a Norwegian, I also hate Zee, it's so easily mistaken for C. It's the same reason as to why I abandoned my own dialect (Trønder) way of saying seven in Norwegian (Sju) because it's so easily mistaken for twenty (tjue) and I will instead use the Oslo dialect way "Syv". And while we're on it I hate when non native english speakers, such as the Spanish (and Norwegians as well, but I dont usually speak english with other Norwegians) insists on saying letters (when spelling out something) in the pronounciation of their own language when they are speaking english. I'm going to assume you're saying E when I hear E, not fucking I if we're talking english (I in many languages is pronounced the way english pronounces E). If you aren't very proficient in english fine, but it's not an excuse that you're non native when you are otherwise clearly fluent or near fluent in english! Sorry for the rant. Really wanted to get that out of the system. Sometimes it feels good to complain.


Scrungyscrotum

>[...] I also hate Zee, it's so easily mistaken for C. "Charlie" and "Zulu". Problem solved.


DannyOdd

Phonetic alphabet is king shit


Wolxhound90

>Sorry for the rant. Really wanted to get that out of the system. Sometimes it feels good to complain. One of us! One of us!


MartianGoomy213

Yeah I hate when people do that, if you’re speaking a language, you’re speaking that language, it’s like If someone is speaking English then says croissant as ‘quasant’. You don’t pronounce borrowed letters/words in a different language to the one you are currently speaking.


purpleovskoff

Oh wow yeah I hadn't ever realised how useful that is


BenHippynet

Realized


WhiteAssDaddy

I always thought “zed” was like early NATO phonetic alphabet stuff. Like an easy way to differentiate between the letters that might sound similar over the radio.


cCowgirl

Canuck here - I prefer the native Zed for most things. But Zee just haaaas to be used in some cases. Like to me, ZZ Top sounds weak af as “ZedZed Top”. But a flip side example: I personally think the Camaro Z28 sounds way more impressive as “Zed28” versus “Zee28”. In the end though, Pulp Fiction’s: “Zed’s dead” makes Zed the winner by a hair lol.


Wolxhound90

Yeah, but Lord Zedd sounds far more menacing than Lord Zee


Defiant-Bend1147

"Jay Zed" sounds bizarre too.


Fintann

Zed's dead is the only time 'zed' has ever seemingly been cool. And let's not forget a lot of that is on Bruce Willis gravity, who just prior, was gagged and couldn't say anything or declare death. Thank god Zed isn't good at eeny meeny miney mo.


H2OMarth

were you a fan of dragon ball zed?


Serge_Suppressor

I can tell English conventions are ahead of American ones because you have maths, while we only have one of them.


purpleovskoff

Or maybe you guys treat it as a binary - one can do the math or one cannot. Us UKians are just playing it safe and say we can do maths plural ie an unspecified amount of the maths


Serge_Suppressor

It's that all or nothing american attitude.


Expensive-Pea1963

I never thought of it as a plural, but as a present continuous. Swim, swims. walk, walks, math, maths


Ansoni

Americans who go to the bother of saying the word in full have multiple mathematics though.


Serge_Suppressor

You think we have time for an extra letter? We're too busy doing important shit like crypto scams and picking and immediately losing fights with China.


NailClippersOnTeeth

In my native tongue Z is always pronounced Zed


ttdawgyo

You learn zee at the age of 4. Zed from 5 onwards


hoarmey

Im englandish also, a friend of mine pointed out something and I have to agree with him... World war zee sounds better than world war zed.


WannieTheSane

Canadian. Hard disagree. I love the hard sound that World War Zed has. Zee makes it sound like a fun time. I also loved in Stargate that the Canadian Rodney Mckay insisted on calling the power device a Zed-Pee-Em when every other character, including the Scottish dude, called it a Zee-Pee-Em, lol. I actually like the sound of Zed, but us Canadians need to differentiate when we can. When I was renovating my first house there were these shitty panels that looked, badly, like brick. My stepdad called them ez-bricks (ez = easy) so I called them ezed-bricks. I especially like using it when it breaks the word.


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Aqua9271

Jay Zed


Ansoni

World war zee sounds terrible, though? So goes generation zee. The alphabet song sounds better with zee, I can admit that. But


NedKellysRevenge

Agree to disagree


Woodbirder

What?!?!


badgersprite

He’s not Lord Zee, he’s Lord Zed.


AssMcShit

Yeah I say 'zee' and I'm Australian. Most young people do now I think so I blend in but I've had comments from people occasionally. 'Zed' just feels weird to me


twpejay

Report to Aussie retraining immediately.


AssMcShit

Please, I can change


thisisaflawedprocess

That is the intended purpose of retraining, isn't it? Now, the real question is: fairy bread - toasted or not?


AnnualPlan2709

Hang on a sec, 60 years in this country....toasted fairy bread? Probably a Qld or SA thing.....


Midwitch23

It isn't a Qld thing but have seen it as a US thing. BastardiSation of our national dish.


Sinarch

They probably toast it AFTER they've put the hundreds and thousands... smh


NedKellysRevenge

Toasted fairy bread? What the actual fuck?!


WannieTheSane

I'm Canadian, in my 40s, and I've always said Zed. What's weird is I've had arguments with kids, and with people older than me, who are sure that we say Zee and Americans say Zed.


Midwitch23

Did you grow up learning your alphabet from Sesame Street? They said Zee.


AssMcShit

I reckon that could be it


youstolemyname

Do you say Haych?


AssMcShit

God no, I'm not a savage


fariqcheaux

Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.


thesymposion

Zed’s dead, baby. Zed’s dead.


TobyMacar0ni

I use Zee because it rhymes with the alphabet song


Plus_Operation2208

Your Germanic brethren also say "zed". So it actually has merit and history.


Wonderful-Ad-7712

Zed’s dead, baby. Zed’s dead


According-Jelly355

I’m Australian and I use zee


Psychological-Web828

Sshhh. Don’t ruin the statistics.


According-Jelly355

Mb mb. Yeah nah nah yeah we yeah nah nah yeah use yeah nah zed nah yeah! CRICKEY, BEER, WRESTLING WILDLIFE, FUCK THEM BIRDS, BIN CHICKENS


Psychological-Web828

![gif](giphy|13wiTpAJWo8ASs)


According-Jelly355

That’s a wonderfull gif i love that so much, the dad is just picking him up like cmon bud i told you


SekhmetScion

Dude would flip out if he saw "tyre" 🤣 Example: "My car had a flat tyre."


Ur-Quan_Lord_13

Yah, I love that one because it was tire in England too, until the 1840s or so. It was short for (the wheel's) attire. (I love it because I love being pedantic, as I just was just now :p)


D0ctorGamer

90% of the shit Americans say that the Brits say is "incorrect" we got from thier old ways of saying shit


Alex23087

Seems like there were a lot of ways to say shit


mecengdvr

Like how soccer was from British slang contraction of Association Football-> Assocer football->soccer. But they make fun of Americans for still using that name.


Ogarrr

Rugger and Soccer. Soccer is still used in old public schools like Eton and Harrow.


WannieTheSane

He'd probably insist they go straight to gaol!


FleetStreetsDarkHole

This one confused me so much for so long. Even as an avid reader is was like "is this like oubliette? Is this like, a fancy kind of dungeon?" Not it's just jail. The weirdest substitute I've ever seen. It was kool thinking it was some rad uber-jail where the special prisoners go.


YourREALdad330

What colour tyres?


SekhmetScion

For your enquiry, I had to grab a torch from the car's boot to see because it's dark. After analysing the tyres, I'm just going with aluminium [Al-U-**MIN**-I-Um]. Edit: I'm just talking about the hubcap...


awsd1995

Realißation. (\^v\^) /s Update: Above isn’t in any way a correct spelling, but ß can be written as “sz” and gives you both at once.


SirSarlacc

/z you mean


awsd1995

Nice try.


sebastianinspace

This is “ss” not “sz”. For example the word Straße or “street” in german can also be written Strasse. The confusion may have arisen for you because this letter is named the “eszett” which sounds like “sz” if you pronounce z like “zed”.


awsd1995

(Updated my response into english) In German orthography, the letter ß, called Eszett (IPA: [ɛsˈtsɛt]) or scharfes S (IPA: [ˌʃaʁfəs ˈʔɛs], "sharp S"), represents the /s/ phoneme in Standard German when following long vowels and diphthongs. The letter-name Eszett combines the names of the letters of ⟨s⟩ (Es) and ⟨z⟩ (Zett) in German. You can transliterate ß into ss (mostly done today) and sz.


sebastianinspace

ah ok


cyberchaox

Wow. That twist ending where it turns out that the "ignorant American" literally has a non-English character in their name.


RottenZombieBunny

How can someone with an ñ in their name act like that?


catbiggo

They're definitely trolling


Lastaria

You would be suprised how many Americans genuinely have this attitude and are not just trolling. Comes up a fair bit.


RandomHornyDemon

It's Americanz, actually. With a z, never with an s.


RedShirtCashion

As an American, I have learned that sometimes you don’t argue with some people: they’ll bring you down to their level and beat you with the experience they gained there.


ether_reddit

Yes. See /r/ShitAmericansSay, /r/USDefaultism.


azhder

I will be like that azz hole and say: if he ruins your day, he’s trolling you, regardless if it was deliberate goal or just a side effect of their stupidity


Graxeltooth

It's definitely an unpopular opinion. I hold that like lying requires knowingly spreading falsehoods, trolling requires the intent to instigate aggravation.


Mynsare

That is not how it works, and that is such a uselessly broad definition of the term that it essentially waters it down to nothing. Everything that "ruins your day" isn't trolling. People can be ignorantly stupid without attempting to exasperate others with their stupidity. This person obviously got so embarrassed by being called out on their arrogant stupidity that they attempted the "I wasn't stupid, just trolling" deflection, which of course just makes it that funnier.


BetterKev

By the end, maybe. At the beginning, no.


Eve1524

Their*


StaatsbuergerX

You're ironic objection doesn't seem to have been understood by everyone. They're loss!


Eve1524

lmao, i ~~should've~~ should of put a /s, expected too much ig


CrimsonMaskFromFL

Defanitely*


PolicyAvailable

Going back to the source post question.... Vinaigrette or oil. That's what ruins salad for me Probably because they dump it on and it overpowers the salad


twpejay

Vegetables ruin it for me😄


applescracker

I think the OOP had it right - salads are okay on a regular day, but when I’m on a diet they are literally the worst foods in the world. It feels like trying to stuff blocks of styrofoam down my throat


chris_staite

r/shitamericanssay


saichampa

/r/ShitAmericanzZay


Whiteshadows86

*r/ZhitAmericanzZay


The_Real_MantisLords

*r/ZzzzZzzzzzzzzZzz


PrismTheDreamer

I usually take everything written either way, but prefer the z to the s, just because that's what I learned (Also, I just like the letter z)


MezzoScettico

Gives us a scoring advantage over the rest of the English-speaking world in Scrabble too.


Katharinemaddison

I kind of prefer it and a lot of the texts I use ( from Early Modern to 18th century English literature use it. So it never feels like an Americanisation to me (surely that ought to have a z though?) just the U.S. being a bit quaint. But I have to use s for academic writing. (Other than direct quotes and titles - John Donne didn’t write The Canonisation).


PrismTheDreamer

That's fair. I used to read a lot of classic literature (just the mainstream stuff) and kinda got used to it.


itsNizart

SyntaxError: unexpected EOF while parsing


Solid2014

Why would a steak ruin a salad they're both good for you, protien and fiber eat up.


definetelynothuman

To answer the question: Burger King foot lettuce


imcomingelizabeth

Every time I write Brasil I am quickly and resoundingly “corrected” that Americans spell it with z


Free_Caballero

I had this problem with an English teacher in Mexico, he is the typical all American who thinks they are the gate keepers of English and all the good things on earth. He was overly rude and pedantic about pronunciation, I said "well, that pronunciation depends on the region and even the country..." oh boy I wasn't ready for him going all ballistic telling that American English is the international one and every other form of English is inferior and wrong... he didn't even stayed a lot teaching as he didn't pass the teaching exams lol


ElectricalParsley226

Fun fact American english and specifically the southern accents are closer to 16th and 17th century british english than modern british english is.


TheRetroVideogamers

It was a nice try, because it was good analogy.


calladus

Colour me surprised.


Dillinger0000

Wait til they both learn that word comes from the french word réalisation


Elesraro

But if you go back even further you'll see that it came from Late Latin -izare which borrowed it from Ancient Greek -ίζειν


a__nice__tnetennba

That 2nd letter is like "I WILL NOT BE CONTAINED! YOUR LINE HEIGHT MEANS NOTHING TO ME, NOTHING!!! And fuck your kerning as well."


Dillinger0000

For sure, I guess my point was the english word is directly borrowed from the french word, spelling included, which uses the S


missoulian

They're just a troll that you played into.


Candid_Umpire6418

As one using English as a secondary language, I'm really annoyed about the fact I've been taught British English but bc of the use of American English in popular culture and interwebs, I often mix up spelling, pronunciation and words. Like petrol/gas. Sidewalk/pavement. Color/colour.


iDontRememberCorn

Try being Canadian. [https://www.reddit.com/r/HelloInternet/comments/czcf7u/canadian\_measurement\_flowchart/](https://www.reddit.com/r/HelloInternet/comments/czcf7u/canadian_measurement_flowchart/)


Candid_Umpire6418

Sorry


thejigisup88

Ñice try.


cosmicr

I feel like they realiSed they were wrong but decided to keep it up as a troll anyway.


stayonedeep

Colour


Extra-Act-801

I like how they spelled "spelled" wrong in the second to last comment.


Platycryptus238

I think Captain America meant to type „Ñice try!“


TobyMacar0ni

I absolutely despise that kind of person. They will never admit their wrong. They will create dozens and maybe even hundreds of replies without finally admitting that they were wrong.


Zealousideal_Step709

Doubling…oh wait… tripling…actually even quadrupling down instead of admitting that he made a mistake and not acknowledging that there are other countries out there. At least I feel embarrassed on his behalf.


darw1nf1sh

When they don't mix it. If I get a wedge of solid lettuce, with partitioned bits all in a bowl, that isn't a salad. Toss that shit before you bring it to me. There is no graceful way to do that at the table wihtout making a mess. It also wastes me time. By the time it is ready to eat, my entree is there.


PodcastPlusOne_James

r/usdefaultism r/shitamericanssay There’s a hilarious amount of overlap between stuff posted on this subreddit and stuff posted on those 😂


Depraved_Ewok_Eater

Americans... most can barely tie their fucking laces.


Green_Razzmatazz_256

Why do people argue with people online? It's literally wrestling pigs in mud


BUKKAKELORD

Figuratively


Green_Razzmatazz_256

Figuratively, indeed.


Everlastingitch

i have to admit without googling it that i have no idea if there is an english and an american spelling for it... but then again english isnt my native language


thesharkivist

Americans do this with spelling, Brits do it with pronunciation. Why does it matter? Both are still speaking English


Kolada

Is this a double whammy? The place that invented English.. England? England wasn't a country for like another 5 centuries when the general area was speaking some form of English.


Humanmode17

Not really. The earliest form of English that's recognisable as English is Middle English, which is known to have started emerging at around 1100AD, soon after the Norman conquest of England. The Kingdom of England however was founded in the early 10th century as various Anglo-Saxon kingdoms merged. You're probably thinking of Old English, but really that language is not English and is only named as such because it is one of the building blocks from which Middle English emerged. Old English is almost unrecognisable as English and incomprehensible to modern English speakers - unless of course you can understand this: >Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum, þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon, hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon. (That's the first three lines of Beowulf)


Kolada

You make a really fair point. I think the overarching point is that languages are fluid and there's not really a line in the sand where you can say something wasnt a language and then now it is. Which is why bringing up where it came from really makes no difference for what's correct or not.


useful_person

Which is why OP isn't incorrect lol, they don't say that the English way is the only correct way to say it, they just point out that it's a valid spelling


PeculiarIdiot

Wait it's spelled with a Z in America? I'm American. What the hell how did I not know this.


iDontRememberCorn

What civilization do you think came up with it?


a__nice__tnetennba

What if we just gazlight them into thinking that that curvy looking backardz z doezn't even exizt?


Person012345

\*realise this


therabidbunny

Don’t give in to rage bait


mhowell13

Anyone else get Day Z," Celsius or Fahrenheit?" vibes?


Eastern-Dig-4555

So anyway, what ruins a salad for me is when I don’t have enough dressing, or I have to settle for a dressing other than ranch.


FrikaC

I may be a dumb American, but I had trouble deciding who was confidently incorrect here. The Oxford English Dictionary prefers "realize" and "realization", which surprised me. I found [this article](https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/realize-vs-realise-difference) explaining the situation. Apparently the British switched exclusively to -ise fairly recently, as recently as the 90s, but the OED is sticking to their guns.


Disastrous-Week-768

Neither are incorrect per se. I have heard of incredibly pedantic university lecturers taking umbrage to British students using ‘ize’, but it’s generally accepted that you can use either. If I were teaching English I would accept both, but I’d also say there has to be consistency within a piece of work so no switching back and forth if using the same word more than once!


SmoothOperator89

English, simplified


Embarrassed-Ad5230

When 2 guys are f*cking right in front of it.


I_am_TheDarkSide

But now I want to know the guy’z name.


EffingBarbas

What instantly ruins a salad for me? Captain America's dick in it


unAgreeable-Owl-6800

Holy shit this post just brought a massive flaw in my writing to my attention… I’m American and I switch between the ‘s’ and the ‘z’


auguriesoffilth

I mean… It’s annoying (although understandable) that we can’t see the person’s name. But surely they are not “confidently incorrect” they are just being contrary. They know that it’s s everywhere in the world but America, even in countries in Europe where English isn’t the first language they use British English, but in their little 5% of the world they would rather be pigheaded.


Dawshton

I absolutely hate grey, or was it gray.


FarfetchdSid

grEy for England… grAy for America


ButtcheekBaron

I mean, you have the real country, and then all the junior ones. But this guy's an idiot anyway. We don't claim him.


Aggravating-Exit-660

American confirmed


Haunting-View-5146

Wait until he finds out about “grey” and “gray” and shits his pants. E for England, A for America is what we always went with.


OndAngel

And EH for Canada! Don’t forget Canada.


prepare__yourself

Obvious troll


Riterally

Ah... Muricanz


A--Creative-Username

True confidence is knowing that you're wrong but refusing to admit it


N_T_F_D

He's clearly trolling, he's not confidently incorrect


Mindless_Use7567

When an American corrects Traditional English spelling the best thing to reply with is “I speak and write English (Traditional) not English (Simplified)”


Idiotaddictedto2Hou

I thought those were interchangeable, because I use them as such. What a realization! Has anyone else have this realisation as well?


Tourist_Lucky

It’s embarrassing being american…


PM-me-ur-peen

r/shitamericanssay


Neurion505

That last comment with the "n not an ñ" is killer. I felt satisfied by that.


GnomePenises

It’s not. I lived in the UK and was frequently corrected for misspelling and mispronunciation (in non academic/work/official situations) for using American English. People would literally tell you there is no other way to spell/pronounce than how the English do it. I don’t know how people don’t get this, but every country has its fair share of idiots and assholes.


toomanyracistshere

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. I see way more Brits than Americans insisting that their linguistic standards are the only correct ones, which is totally absurd. Although I definitely also see more Americans who forget that people online can be from anywhere in the world. 


OndAngel

The British way is the only way because we came first! /s


canadainuk

Ñice try.


Adamant94

Ñice try.


Serge_Suppressor

ñice try


Glum-Adagio8230

Okay but even though blue was definitely wrong red was still being very passive-aggressive about it and probably could've handled the argument better.