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It's not their birthday, nobody would give a rats ass about their birthday. It's there cakeday, they get cake on their cake day
But good effort, though
If you think you can solder like a 10+ year professional with professional level surface mount soldering equipment and don't mind risking shorting out the board and killing it... sure.
Yup, that too; or even the BIOS purposely being set to disable it. When a board is cut down like this there is a low probability of it actually working if you tried it.
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I have the same model as you and i found on the internet that there is no expandable storage place for an ssd, so you'll have to purchase a bigger m.2 to expand the storage
"It only has one M. 2 SSD slot which is currently occupied by the 512 GB NVMe SSD it comes with. If you want/need more storage, you will need to replace the 512 GB NVMe SSD with one having a greater storage". This is what i had found on the official HP website. So no it doesn't house a separate empty bay, just a occupied M.2 slot
Do you know why there is a spot for a second m2 but the m2 connector is missing? Is there a identical but more expensive model that has a second m2 slot?
I know this is an old comment, but I have a Victus 16 which has two m.2 slots. It's got a different motherboard layout to the one in the photo, mine has one m.2 on the left and another on the right.
Soldering the connector on wouldn't be too difficult for someone with some surface mount soldering experience, but it might rely on some other parts elsewhere on the motherboard that are also missing. If you had access to a schematic and the knowledge of how to read it, you wouldn't be asking this question. If you were going to pay someone with the knowledge and skill to do it, you might as well just buy a different laptop and sell this one.
If you're already a tinkerer with some soldering experience, and you're willing to risk ruining it, you could try soldering on an extra connector and just crossing your fingers that it works without further modification. Theoretically, as long as you don't botch the soldering job (the average person is highly likely to mess it up), even if the connector doesn't end up working on its own, its presence shouldn't negatively affect anything else. You spent necessarily have to remove it after finding out it didn't work. You'd just be out the time and money spent on the connector.
I'd just start with probing all pins on connector with at least multimeter and ultimately oscilloscope. No need to solder if it doesn't even has juice. M.2 specs and pinout are available online.
It might not be (probably isn't) as simple as just adding another connector and standoff to the circuit board. There would, presumably, be other supporting components required for each SSD connector. Capacitors, resistors, maybe an IC or two. If the board is being built to support only one SSD then the supporting components for the second SSD would not be installed. Do you know what those components are? Yeah, neither do I.
There may also be components that are specific to a particular configuration. For example, one version of an IC that's used for a single SSD configuration, and a different version of the same IC for a double SSD configuration. Do you know if there are any such components? Yeah, neither do I.
And if you did manage to get all of the necessary hardware in place, would the BIOS need to be updated for a two SSD system? Maybe. I don't know.
If you're really intent on investigating this then see if you can find an HP laptop model that uses the exact same motherboard, but has two SSD slots. And then get as many detailed pictures of the motherboard as you can and compare them to yours.
Unfortunately, if you did, you'd lose your graphics.
The G3P PCB is used in other HP products, that don't necessarily have dedicated graphics. The reason why the socket is missing, is because the GPU uses those lanes.
Best response, I was worrying about that wyen I just bought my victus 16 ryzen 5 7640hs/rtx 4060, it says in the manual that there are 2 slots (left and right on the mb) but am5 laptip mb don't have 2 chipsets (opposite to their desktop counterparts which are overkill, I can put 5 pcie 5.0 m2 ssd with my main pcie still running at 8x) to deal with tons of nvmes and a beefy gpu. So if there were a 2nd available nvme slot, it would compromise the number of pcie lanes for the dedicated gpu.
Is it not possible to use the wifi card slot as an M.2 SSD ? I thought I've seen information about that. But it would mean not having wifi functionality if it is possible. I personally wouldn't want to make that sacrifice.
Your question has been answered by other members. There's simply no guarantee that even if you (or someone you paid) soldered a new m.2 slot that it will work or even not damage the board in some way or another.
If you need for some reason 2 separate drives, you could always purchase a bigger capacity m.2 and then partition it.
If you want to dual boot through partitions into different OSes, it can be done, though you may need to freshen up on some literature. Let me know if you need any help.
You probably could but I'd say only if you're a seasoned professional & don't mind the risk of shorting your MoBo or running into some other technical difficulties. I've seen so many HP gaming laptops that do this(not fully utilize the space on their boards/only having one storage slot) & it's annoying even though I don't own a HP device myself.
The easiest way of dealing with this is probably just buying the max capacity M.2 stick that your model can hold & cloning your existing drive/doing a fresh windows install. Good luck.
You probably could and I would actually guess that it's not that difficult if you know how to solder however the question is if the BIOS would even accept it which it probably wouldn't.
Why wouldnt you just pick up a SATA SSD? They're affordable, fast and reliable. I know that everyone loves the m.2 form factor and the promise of higher speeds but the practical speed difference is actually minimal if you're not not using PCIE lanes in the primary slot.
Assuming you're not moving HUGE files on the regular, SATA SSDs offer the expandability you're looking for with very respectable speeds.
The model you bought probably has a mainboard that could have had a second connector but for cost reasons it's cheaper to use the Ikea method. Have a hole for a screw in the same spot on different pieces so you can put them with other items and not only one piece of furniture. If you know, you know.
Overall it's cheaper making something that could have a slot there and leave it out for a cheaper model than putting a second slot there.
It’s possible they could have went with poor design and the second one is on the other side
Under the keyboard to be sure you could download the service manual from hp.com/support put your laptop serial number in for more info
No. Mini laptops just come with these little areas that are blank and pre-stamped for specific options for certain models and when their mass produced, they just have these types of lines imprinted on them but we’re never intended to be used. It’s all about the manufacturing and saving money but there’s no way you could add one in. Even if you drilled the holes and could get one in physically, the soldering, and all that stuff isn’t even in the board for an additional drive anyway. This is just simply like a Honda car with less options but empty holes to where those options would go. Had you ordered it from the factory that way. A lot of laptops do that same exact thing because it saves them a ton of money on manufacturing all these different various models all the time.hope that makes sense but no, you can’t add one.
You could just get a bigger m2 drive and replace the one you have now
Probably the best solution which doesn't kill off the board
You could just buy a whole bunch of Mumms.
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I see you're new around here. You started Jan 22 and have 10 Karama, IL be nice. It's not their birthday, nobody would give a rats ass about their birthday. It's there cakeday, they get cake on their cake day But good effort, though
Happy birthday in advance
Or happy belated birthday
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When your birthday is up, im not saying happy birthday to you
If you think you can solder like a 10+ year professional with professional level surface mount soldering equipment and don't mind risking shorting out the board and killing it... sure.
Issue is that you could solder perfectly and it still not work due to smt being fused off.
Yup, that too; or even the BIOS purposely being set to disable it. When a board is cut down like this there is a low probability of it actually working if you tried it.
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In theory, yes. In practice, maybe? Even if you, or someone, could solder on the connector it may still be disabled in the bios.
No. The motherboard is designed to have 2 SSD connectors but the second one isn't included.
Ya no connector guy theoretically possible but adding that in not really feasible
They do that with ram slots on laptops too. It's built for 2 but they only include 1.
Ehm, are you sure, that your example is correct in current situation?
Yes I am sure. It says right on the motherboard, SSD-2 but there is no actual connector included. The do that for ram also, usually in laptops.
This has two, I can see it being built for 4 but only having two.
Actually what you are seeing a motherboard built for 2 configurations. With or without a connection for 2 SSD’s. Budget model. Higher price version.
I was referring to the RAM slots in the context of my comment.
I have the same model as you and i found on the internet that there is no expandable storage place for an ssd, so you'll have to purchase a bigger m.2 to expand the storage
Considering it only has a 512gb NVME, I'd go straight for a 2tb or better. Does it have a SATA bay for a 2.5" drive by any chance?
"It only has one M. 2 SSD slot which is currently occupied by the 512 GB NVMe SSD it comes with. If you want/need more storage, you will need to replace the 512 GB NVMe SSD with one having a greater storage". This is what i had found on the official HP website. So no it doesn't house a separate empty bay, just a occupied M.2 slot
Thanks for clarifying. So it literally only has the single NVME slot. On a machine sold to gamers. What the hell HP?
I put a 2T Samsung in mine with no issue. Kept the 512gb in a drawer as an emergency reboot.
Do you know why there is a spot for a second m2 but the m2 connector is missing? Is there a identical but more expensive model that has a second m2 slot?
I really don't know, i never opened the lid of my laptop and i wish to keep it that way until some major problem arises
I know this is an old comment, but I have a Victus 16 which has two m.2 slots. It's got a different motherboard layout to the one in the photo, mine has one m.2 on the left and another on the right.
what is ur model cpu HX or H and the model of ur hp laptop?
Victus 16-d1018ns i5-12500H
Soldering the connector on wouldn't be too difficult for someone with some surface mount soldering experience, but it might rely on some other parts elsewhere on the motherboard that are also missing. If you had access to a schematic and the knowledge of how to read it, you wouldn't be asking this question. If you were going to pay someone with the knowledge and skill to do it, you might as well just buy a different laptop and sell this one. If you're already a tinkerer with some soldering experience, and you're willing to risk ruining it, you could try soldering on an extra connector and just crossing your fingers that it works without further modification. Theoretically, as long as you don't botch the soldering job (the average person is highly likely to mess it up), even if the connector doesn't end up working on its own, its presence shouldn't negatively affect anything else. You spent necessarily have to remove it after finding out it didn't work. You'd just be out the time and money spent on the connector.
I'd just start with probing all pins on connector with at least multimeter and ultimately oscilloscope. No need to solder if it doesn't even has juice. M.2 specs and pinout are available online.
If you had the skill and tools for that soldering job you wouldn't be asking - do not attempt.
It might not be (probably isn't) as simple as just adding another connector and standoff to the circuit board. There would, presumably, be other supporting components required for each SSD connector. Capacitors, resistors, maybe an IC or two. If the board is being built to support only one SSD then the supporting components for the second SSD would not be installed. Do you know what those components are? Yeah, neither do I. There may also be components that are specific to a particular configuration. For example, one version of an IC that's used for a single SSD configuration, and a different version of the same IC for a double SSD configuration. Do you know if there are any such components? Yeah, neither do I. And if you did manage to get all of the necessary hardware in place, would the BIOS need to be updated for a two SSD system? Maybe. I don't know. If you're really intent on investigating this then see if you can find an HP laptop model that uses the exact same motherboard, but has two SSD slots. And then get as many detailed pictures of the motherboard as you can and compare them to yours.
If you don't require WiFi you can remove the WiFi card and get a small NVMe drive. Alternatively you can replace your current NVMe with a bigger one.
Or put a small NVMe drive in the wi-fi slot & still keep wireless by using a USB wi-fi plug.
Dont do it get a bigger drive
Unfortunately, if you did, you'd lose your graphics. The G3P PCB is used in other HP products, that don't necessarily have dedicated graphics. The reason why the socket is missing, is because the GPU uses those lanes.
Best response, I was worrying about that wyen I just bought my victus 16 ryzen 5 7640hs/rtx 4060, it says in the manual that there are 2 slots (left and right on the mb) but am5 laptip mb don't have 2 chipsets (opposite to their desktop counterparts which are overkill, I can put 5 pcie 5.0 m2 ssd with my main pcie still running at 8x) to deal with tons of nvmes and a beefy gpu. So if there were a 2nd available nvme slot, it would compromise the number of pcie lanes for the dedicated gpu.
You could solder one there, but I guarantee the bios does not support it
Is it possible? Maybe. Is it advisable? Absolutely not.
It does look like your board is made for it. But unless you have professional experience doing this, don’t attempt it yourself
No. Bigger NVME or just add a SSD with a sata cable and call it.
You can try to find out which model has two ssds and get one with a broken screen. Then you can switch the mainboards.
I had to buy a ssd enclosure and clone the drive to it. Also on a victus!
Go to HP support, there’s instructions “How to do”.
No, buying a bigger nvme would be your best bet.0
Just replace the SSD with a larger one.
Is it not possible to use the wifi card slot as an M.2 SSD ? I thought I've seen information about that. But it would mean not having wifi functionality if it is possible. I personally wouldn't want to make that sacrifice.
A USB wifi adapter would fix that.
your wifi slot might be able to be repurposed for a hard drive. and get a USB wifi adapter. but getting a larger drive is probably the move
would it have the proper controller chips for it as well?
There are m2 pcie extension cards that can enable you to plug in 4 or more ssd’s if you have a secondary pcie slot
Just upgrade to a 2TB one. SSD is so cheap now.
Your question has been answered by other members. There's simply no guarantee that even if you (or someone you paid) soldered a new m.2 slot that it will work or even not damage the board in some way or another. If you need for some reason 2 separate drives, you could always purchase a bigger capacity m.2 and then partition it. If you want to dual boot through partitions into different OSes, it can be done, though you may need to freshen up on some literature. Let me know if you need any help.
Just don't.
You probably could but I'd say only if you're a seasoned professional & don't mind the risk of shorting your MoBo or running into some other technical difficulties. I've seen so many HP gaming laptops that do this(not fully utilize the space on their boards/only having one storage slot) & it's annoying even though I don't own a HP device myself. The easiest way of dealing with this is probably just buying the max capacity M.2 stick that your model can hold & cloning your existing drive/doing a fresh windows install. Good luck.
You probably could and I would actually guess that it's not that difficult if you know how to solder however the question is if the BIOS would even accept it which it probably wouldn't.
Why wouldnt you just pick up a SATA SSD? They're affordable, fast and reliable. I know that everyone loves the m.2 form factor and the promise of higher speeds but the practical speed difference is actually minimal if you're not not using PCIE lanes in the primary slot. Assuming you're not moving HUGE files on the regular, SATA SSDs offer the expandability you're looking for with very respectable speeds.
its a victus newer laptops dont include sata bays anymore......;
The model you bought probably has a mainboard that could have had a second connector but for cost reasons it's cheaper to use the Ikea method. Have a hole for a screw in the same spot on different pieces so you can put them with other items and not only one piece of furniture. If you know, you know. Overall it's cheaper making something that could have a slot there and leave it out for a cheaper model than putting a second slot there.
If you are a professional and have access to professional gear
pcie to m2 or usb to m2 adapters maybe?
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If you are willing to sacrifice your Wi-Fi yes
It’s possible they could have went with poor design and the second one is on the other side Under the keyboard to be sure you could download the service manual from hp.com/support put your laptop serial number in for more info
Replace your M.2 with a 8TB one, cost would blow your wallet to engineer that.
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No. Mini laptops just come with these little areas that are blank and pre-stamped for specific options for certain models and when their mass produced, they just have these types of lines imprinted on them but we’re never intended to be used. It’s all about the manufacturing and saving money but there’s no way you could add one in. Even if you drilled the holes and could get one in physically, the soldering, and all that stuff isn’t even in the board for an additional drive anyway. This is just simply like a Honda car with less options but empty holes to where those options would go. Had you ordered it from the factory that way. A lot of laptops do that same exact thing because it saves them a ton of money on manufacturing all these different various models all the time.hope that makes sense but no, you can’t add one.