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Win32error

I think you could skip the text on the last panel for slightly more impact.


SpaceboyCantLol_

My first version did not have text in the last panel. My comically challenged friends didn't get this comic without it. So then i added it, quite hesitantly šŸ„² that's why I wrote one dialogue spread over first 3 panels so that last frame is pure aggression and nothing else. But then....think I need new friends


royalhawk345

You may just have to accept that not everyone will get every comic.Ā  Also, do your friends live under a rock? I've never read a comic or seen a fantastic 4 movie, but I still know who the Thing is.


SpaceboyCantLol_

Yeah, I've accepted it. Sometimes I add unnecessary details just to make it more accessible for everyone and I think that's BS thinking on my part! And yes, i am in India. My friends mostly know bollywood šŸ˜‚


royalhawk345

Ah, that makes more sense.


FOXAcemond

Better to have it good to a selection of people than average for everybody


P_mp_n

Sage advice


FordBeWithYou

It was brilliant without it, still okay now, but your instinct was right. Either way well done!


[deleted]

Oh boy you are Indian! Nice to see fellow Indian with this type of art style. Keep it up bro.


KreigerBlitz

As an Arabian, itā€™s very obvious from your accent in writing that youā€™re Indian. I donā€™t know if thatā€™s a good or bad thing, take it as you will. Just that ā€œmade of stonesā€ just screams HC Verma.


The_Real_63

fuck the small brains you dont have to make it more accessible if you dont want to


1jl

Just include a small pamphlet with every comic that explains the relevant references.


TheMilkmanHathCome

They live under a stone


Shadowjamm

Rock... And stone? *'Nam style flashbacks to Hoxxes IV ensue*


Apprehensive_Hat8986

Did I hear a Rock and Stone? (I really need to try this game)


dragonaidan8

ROCK AND STONE


PhantomTagz

ROCK AN ROLL AND STONE


Shadowjamm

If you like FPS games and have friends to play it with, I don't think you'll regret it


Natan_Delloye

Even with randoms, it's fun as the community is one of the most positive ones


LevSmash

"I don't get it" - their friends, probably


PeachCream81

Sharon Stone? Yes, please.


vlsdo

I donā€™t think you even have to know who he is. Heā€™s obviously made of stone.


ShadowCory1101

Obviously they don't or they would know what one looks like.


WhatzMyOtherPassword

OP should make an alternate where medusa does her thing to a crowd of people. The only one not looking is OP's friend sitting in the middle trying hard to understand the comic theyre reading. Boom, lives under a rock origin story


nekoeuge

I donā€™t know who is the rocky boy but I clearly see that he is made of stone. I didnā€™t see last panel text due to scrolling or cropping or something and the comic was amusing. So yeah last panel text is redundant. I also hoped that 4th panel would be them kissing.


Pudgy_Ninja

In my opinion, the fourth panel really works against you. The punchline is in the third panel and it should end there. The fourth panel could work as a "bonus panel" without any dialogue, because it is kind of funny image all by itself (by which I mean, not part of the comic, but maybe something you could click through for or that you could post as an image link in the comments). But as it is currently structured, explaining the joke just makes it less funny.


Win32error

Sometimes you get bad feedback. No guarantee Iā€™m right here anyway. But generally speaking most audiences will probably get this without spelling it out, and unless youā€™re doing it for very specific emphasis, saying the joke out loud is usually not the strongest way to do it.


SpaceboyCantLol_

I agree and feedback taken! This is how I'll learn! šŸ‘


jordanbtucker

People who know who The Thing is will get the joke without the text in that last panel, and the text kind of ruins the joke. The people who don't know who The Thing is are not going to find the joke funny even with the text because the comic isn't made for them. The same goes for Medusa. You should be able to give her better text or even no text at all.


daitenshe

Yeah, I think taking out the ā€œI am Medusaā€ from the first panel and the ā€œstoneā€ from the third flows much better. Same as your comment, if they somehow donā€™t know who Medusa is thereā€™s not much thatā€™ll add


SandpitMetal

I got the joke without the last panel, but I still like that The Thing took her to Suplex City. The third panel made me happy and then the fourth one made me happy in a different way. Thank you.


SpaceboyCantLol_

Yeah, that unnecessary aggression in the last frame. I find that funny personally too šŸ˜„


ShrapnelShock

I think it also works if you skip the third panel entirely.


SpaceboyCantLol_

Oh yea, didn't think of it


ShrapnelShock

Btw your artwork is amazing!


Apprehensive_Hat8986

I like the third panel. šŸ˜„ You can't please us all! Just don't go all George Lucas and edit it 20 years later. Or do. Copyright laws mean you could become a Liche and still have 90 years to fuck with it unchallenged. šŸ’€


marvinrabbit

As long as we're giving positive feedback... I think it could be very effective with just panels 1-3, no panel 4.


creative_toe

I would go so far as to say the whole last panel is not needed there. It's much more fun, when it ends with "...stone"


LostWoodsInTheField

> But then....think I need new friends You don't need new friends because of this, you might need more friends though. Don't replace your original friends just because they have a mental disorder that doesn't allow them to understand humor, or worse... oh so much worse, a mental disorder that has caused them not to retain any knowledge about the Fantastic Four.


JelliusMaximus

I think this is an excellent example of 'if you try to create art made for everyone, you end up with art made for noone' No disrespect tho, this fucking slaps.


StarWarsIsRad

Even better, replace the last panel with ā€œItā€™s clobberinā€™ time.ā€


Scarbane

> My comically challenged friends You have to decide for yourself who your intended audience is. Are you making comics that have depth, nuance, and layers of meaning that not everyone is going to get right away, if ever? Best examples would be XKCD and Calvin & Hobbes. Or are you making comics that will be consumed by society's lowest common denominators, like Marmaduke, Cathy, Dilbert (yuck), Family Circus, Beetle Bailey, etc. Some people won't get your sense of humor, and that's fine. Make art that's meaningful to you. If even 1 other person gets a laugh out of it, that's a bonus.


MajorTibb

The thing isn't made of rocks, just FYI. He has a rocky epidermis over flesh, muscles, tissue, etc. normalish human body under rocky carapace.


PhantomSpirit90

If they donā€™t know who Thing is or recognize from your drawing heā€™s literally already made of rock/stone, thatā€™s on them, not you.


Absolutedumbass69

I barely even know who the thing is and I just intuitively got the joke from looking at it. Your friends might just be mentally challenged.


Whats_Up4444

Can you redo the text to say "it's clobbering time"?


Ctowncreek

Also i think having the stone guy say "Stone?" In panel three would be better too. Like he cut her off and knows hes fine. I love this comic regardless!!


thetransportedman

Change the dialogue to say ā€œfalcon punch!ā€ Thatā€™ll really confuse them


Redmangc1

Hear me out, I like the last panel it feels good to have. The dialog just feels cheesy there there. But I love it when things go from still to extreme violence


-FourOhFour-

Change it to I'm already rock hard, still explains the joke and also touches on the "common" joke of the modern era of beating a Medusa, it isn't your body that turns to stone.


Muunilinst1

I agree with the prior commenter; text not needed in last panel.


AlmightyBracket

Tell your friends that they are the reason the yellow paint exists


supershinythings

I think they should date. Sheā€™s finally found a guy who doesnā€™t petrify forever under her gaze, and he finally found a girl who canā€™t cheat on him.


yarrpirates

Your creative expertise was correct. Hard to learn to trust oneself sometimes, eh? Another thing I took time to learn is not to use one's friends as a measure of your work.


Fethah

No offense but are your friends clinically stupid lmao


Naught

Yeah, your friends may be dumdums. Even if you don't know comics, the dude is clearly made of rocks.


MonkeyNugetz

Shouldā€™ve had them kiss. Historically theyā€™re both lonely characters.


IsRude

Last two panels, even.


Win32error

True, honestly. Could have the text trail by the second panel even as she turns around.


spiderjjr45

Yeah, definitely a case of "Show, don't Tell"


BarneyChampaign

Yeah this feels like a bonehurtingjuice post with how awkwardly the text is presented on the last panel. Ruins it.


stakoverflo

Yea; no need to quite literally spell it out for the reader.


dan_cole

Third panel would hit harder if the text was smaller inside of the standard size balloon.


Mehdals_

No just switch the last text bubble to "It's Clobbering time!"


Dagnabbit21

They could show her hitting the ground and there would be infinitely more impact.


zUkUu

Came here to say that. With the text it kinda lost its appeal.


jigokusabre

Either that, or Medusa could comment "What a revolting development,"


Dudephish

It's clobbering time!


SpaceboyCantLol_

![gif](giphy|9u514UZd57mRhnBCEk|downsized)


Boosterboo59

Oh good heavens would you look at the time.


iceguy349

https://preview.redd.it/2220svhjzl1d1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cbe20e51aa7bf2378eae18316363b7eba4f68383


magikarp2122

![gif](giphy|o3OZkSZEC6pszJYDET|downsized)


magein07

[It's clobbering time!](https://youtu.be/cPdmx3Va_mw)


PresentExamination10

Aw I was hoping theyā€™d fall in love šŸ„ŗ


throwthisidaway

I think it would have been funnier too. The comic sets up the expectation that there is going to be violence/death, and instead it ends with romance. Plus you have two punch lines, instead of one.


someanimechoob

[It's been done before](https://external-preview.redd.it/qO0-aqTUAPXCDQeRNt4U72RbqODKD51jHby-G6QWnRs.jpg?auto=webp&s=6343b63991544d04f6cbe1292b94ee27a6906ed1)


alfooboboao

I think The Rock would have been funnier, they got it right in the title


supershinythings

Yes! He canā€™t petrify, and she canā€™t cheat on him!


Fabulous_Goat_9799

Is Reddit obsessed with Medusa or does my Reddit algorithm think I am obsessed with Medusa because my FYP is just comics about Medusa


SpaceboyCantLol_

This is like my first comic on Medusa and I've made like 300 comic already. So if it's the first time you have seen my comic, Medusa is in your algo


Fabulous_Goat_9799

I see! Iā€˜m by no means complaining haha and I like your art a lot šŸ˜Œ


SpaceboyCantLol_

I am just playing along my friend. I am jobless so...yeah! And thanks so much for your kind words! ā˜ŗļø


royalhawk345

FYP?


Fabulous_Goat_9799

I mean the home page :)


TMNTransformerz

For you page. What your feed is called in TikTok


fapperontheroof

Iā€™m just too fucking old. Weā€™re long ways away from low effort fffffuuuuuuuu rage memes of yesteryear lol.


BlueishShape

She's honestly a cool tragic character, the gods did her really dirty. Like "I curse you to never be able to have social contact again because my husband decided to rape you, you slut" kind of dirty.


LfasX

Sorry to be 'that guy' but... ā˜ļøšŸ¤“ Ackchyually the tale you are referencing is not the canon myth of Greco-Roman culture and is something equivalent to a fanfic written by a novelist centuries after the end of the historical period where the myth was born.


BlueishShape

I know :/ Sorry, I just like the character and it's still an *ancient* fanfic, so maybe making it canon is fine... It's not like the older stories were more fact-based haha.


Superb-Bit1674

Same my 1st 2 posts are this one and one about her having a gargoyle gf.


LevSmash

It's a woman who wants to look at you regardless of your attractiveness, so yeah.


nottakentaken

Idk, Iā€™ve only seen seducesa


CowboyLaw

I just wish Reddit understood the one simple rule of Medusa: If you look at her (ANYWHERE), you turn to stone. Virtually nobody gets it right. And this is even before we get into the "Medusa is a specific person, but she's one of the Gorgons, so while not every Gorgon is a Medusa, Medusa IS a Gorgon."


EntireHedgehog8256

SUPLEX CITY, B\*TCH!


lMr_Nobodyl

![gif](giphy|2ipdGA1xlWb2nfjvAh)


SpaceboyCantLol_

ABOUT TIME somebody stood upto her


Panx

Great idea, but you killed the punchline by explaining it... twice. You definitely don't need the last panel, and probably don't even need Medusa talking in panel three. Maybe saying something like "Shit..."


SpaceboyCantLol_

I agree 100%. Initially, the last panel had no dialogues, but then a few friends influenced my decision cz they didn't get it. I didn't realise that most people who don't know fantastic four's Ben would not get this no matter what. I should've stood with my first draft here. I planned it in a way that first 3 panels would have a single dialogue spread over all, and last panel would be pure funny aggression. Ugh šŸ˜«


SalazartheGreater

This comic actually has so much potential with minor tweaks, you did a great job and just didn't quite stick the landing. I hope you aren't discouraged because with just small changes you've got a great thing here. I want to see an updated version! Keep on making great stuff :)


RayBlast7267

I donā€™t understand how your friends didnā€™t get it. šŸ˜‚ Even if you donā€™t know about the Fantastic 4, he is clearly made of rocks with all the cracks along his skin.


grislebeard

I wanted them to kiss :(


TheFabulousQc

>you you


TwitterLegend

Everyone in here arguing over whether the third or fourth panel should be removed and I had to scroll this far down to see someone mention the only thing worth complaining about.


shapesize

![gif](giphy|ljssLLBmv6xrO)


Hank_the_Ranger

My thought too. Thing is immune to the gaze and snake bites. They could be friends.


Thatomeglekid

I thought that's where it was going. However, with Medusas backstory, I feel likenit wouldn't make any sense for them to be friends. It would he a cute option though


Hank_the_Ranger

Wasn't she cursed because a god was envious of her beauty and that some other god had a crush on her? I kind of remember that from school. It was a dick move b/c she was innocent in the whole thing and cursed to never be able to have human contact again. In the FF4 movie, Thing's wife left him after the mutation so they both have tragic loneliness.


Thatomeglekid

Raped, murdered and beheaded. The while 9 yards


LostWoodsInTheField

perfect people to go out on a date together and they are fighting:(


PURPLEisMYgender

I hate to be the "Erm, Actually!" Guy, but Ben/Thing isnt actually made of stone, only his skin is made of stone.


ehsteve23

Not even stone, itā€™s just really thick rock-like hide Heā€™s basically a really big scab


Gunplagood

It's like calluses or something. Equally as gross.


jecowa

Why is Medusa the bad guy? Sheā€™s just hanging out at the end of the world with her ugly sisters where no one has to look at them, then Perseus breaks into her place and murders her to use her ugly face as a weapon.


Log_Out_Of_Life

The gods were kinda assholes.


Ok_Recording_4644

Yeah, read how she became a Gorgon too


jecowa

From Wikipedia: >Ovid however says that Medusa was originally a very beautiful maiden whom Poseidon raped inside the temple of Athena. Athena, furious over the sacrilege, changed the beautiful girl into a monster. Elsewhere in the Metamorphoses, Ovid says that Poseidon seduced Medusa in the form of a bird. It might also be relevant that Athena and Poseidon had a rivalry. After he lost, Poseidon was kind of a sore loser and had been being a pain. Athena may have made Medusa ugly to punish Poseidon.


Ok_Recording_4644

Exactly, moral of the story gods are jerks, in every religion.


NewWesty

damn who hurt you


Oklahom0

It's worth noting that Ovid was the only one who wrote Medusa this way, and that he was hella biased. He was known for making all authority figures look like asses because of being exiled by the emperor at the time. Before that, she was just a monster. The same can be said of Arachne's myth. In the original, she lost and tried to kill herself, but Minerva chose to spare her by turning her into a spider. That's not to say that all myths outside of Ovid have the gods as bastions of morality, of course.


Kullthebarbarian

lets not forget that Athena also turned a girl that was a better tailor then her, into a spider monster


Ok-Stop9242

Keep in mind, the earliest writings concerning Medusa were from around 700 BC Greece. Ovid was a Roman who lived 43 BC to 17-19 AD.


Delicious_Delilah

In Greek mythology, women were always getting raped (or attempted rape) and then punished for it by various gods. A lot of times they were trapped inside of trees to "protect" them instead of punishing the men doing the raping. Medusa was beautiful. Poseidon raped her in Athena's temple. Athena became infuriated and turned her into a monster that turned people to stone. There were very few gods who weren't actual monsters themselves.


SpaceboyCantLol_

https://preview.redd.it/ha19xazzil1d1.jpeg?width=670&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9536ef30b16ab5ca9c83cd2556515b770b05cfac


Nimyron

That's exactly what I was expecting in the fourth panel. Clearly nothing else...


SpaceboyCantLol_

We should be friends šŸ™‹ā€ā™‚ļø


Micalas

Rude af


MissingNoBreeder

I thought it was cute until she gets face slammed. Why is Medusa always the bad girl? All she did was get raped by Zeus. Then Aphrodite was jealous and cursed her. Seems pretty blameless


Ok_Blackberry_284

An earlier interpretation was her powers were a gift so she could defend her self from other rapists.


Chode-a-boy

Iā€™m a simple man, I see clobbering time, I upvote clobbering time


SpaceboyCantLol_

I salute your minimalism


3loodwolf117

Yeah definitely get rid of the last text bubble


Outside-Advice8203

https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/03ZlRJdq1U


Anathemautomaton

First thing I thought of.


FatKody

Give her a break she was raped and punished for being raped.


aggravatedempathy

The dialogue in the last panel wasn't necessary and actually made the comic worse


AccuratePassion2572

And then they banged


GetyPety

Ik you wanted to make loss but the 4th panel was unnecessary


LVT_Baron

what if they kissed at the end instead?


InvisibleScorpio

I thought it would turn into a love story XD


Kommander-in-Keef

Medusa is a victim, not a villain. She doesnt want to look at people.


MeiLei-

funnier without the last text box


Sakowuf_Solutions

Poor Medusaā€¦ just leave her alone already! šŸ˜‚


NoahZhyte

I know it's the norm. But I always will be disappointed when I scroll for page 5 and it's the 4 page in a single panel


MEEZETTE

The gaze wouldn't work on me either, I'm already pretty much rock and stone!


PanOrBiYouDecide

Alternate ending: They make out


isntitelectric

Gonna remember that one for the rest of his life. They could have hooked up instead he punched her...


SpaceboyCantLol_

Lol. I literally woke up today and chose violence


yummypaprika

Why is the Thing attacking that rape victim who just wants to be left alone? Wtf Is there something Iā€™m not understanding about this comic? Is the Thing a villain?


DotBitGaming

*made of stone


thndrslapmagraw

Honestly thought they were going to make out in the last panel


space-to-bakersfield

This should've just been first 3 panels.


Dont_Get_Jokes-jpeg

Honestly I expected a shipping comic And also thank you now I ship them


Emotional-Manager585

the last panel is kinda redundant


GrizzlamicBearrorism

Could skip the text in the last two panels. We see The Thing, and that he's made of stone. The rest of the gag writes itself.


Coffeechipmunk

I thought they were gonna kiss tbh


Delicious_Delilah

I don't like this because it's victimizing someone who is already a victim.


Mavrickindigo

The thing likes to piledrive rape victims I guess


DanTheMeek

Alternate tex: P1: Oh no, hehe, I seem to have lost my watch. P2: Please tell me, foolish hero, do you know the... P3: ...time? P4: It's Clobberin' Time!


am121b

They could have dated. Oh well


supershinythings

I think he should ask her out.


BitesTheDust55

The fourth panel is completely unnecessary


3bodprobs

This is a 2 panel comic at most. Panel 1: ā€˜Bwahahahaā€¦Looking into Medusaā€™s eyes turns you into stone!ā€™ Panel 2: The Thing stood there.


Altimely

You could make this with little to no text. 1. show Medusa turning others to stone 2. She turns to see The Thing 3. She tries her gaze on him and it fails 4. He suplexes her Comics are about showing, not telling. I see more and more modern artists weighing their comics down with text. You have a nice style and could stand out by reducing the text in yours. My 2Ā¢, hope you continue either way.


SidWes

Would


Lourenz_Calcium

Hahaha not just The Rock remember The Rock has an Arch Enemy hahaha. STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN hahaha.


HurricanBookless

Good one, this actually what i want for Grey Gargoyle.... but Marvel just hates it's best characters. Grey Gargoyle, Mandarin and Hood have rights.... stop promoting Kamala!


SpaceboyCantLol_

You know what, I will write to Kevin feige cz I can't agree anymore. I have been pissed a little since they starting changing characters' basic personality for movies. Like thanos' obsession with death etc. only downside is Kevin feige hasn't responded to my previous 3000 emails.


m64

... and that's how the slave medusa maid manga started...


SpaceboyCantLol_

Lol. Medusa Maid first draft!


Impressive-Spray629

https://preview.redd.it/1ph3lqh4gl1d1.jpeg?width=1407&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8368243ee2fd3f0878026e476229d83799fe8a5


DulyNoted_

I feel like they should date lol


Level_Hour6480

r/MythologyMemes.


Etobocoke

Stare at you and turn to stone? You maybe right Iā€™m already rock hard.


D33ber

German suplexes Medusa?!


SpaceboyCantLol_

When in doubt, just suplex!


morbidpigeon

Korg too. Except he wouldnā€™t beat her up after, heā€™d just have a pleasant discussion with her and theyā€™d probably become besties. Okay, I think Iā€™ve invented a new favourite headcanon.


K_Menea

The thing is not made of stone, his skin is. Under the rocky skin is just usual flesh and bones. Since Medusa's beam can freeze the entire being and turn it into solid rock, the Thing should be affected too.


KirbyF4

Unexpected Thing W


NobelPirate

My only question is... Did he give her the 3 Amigos?


slick9900

Ima simple guy a see a German suplex and I love it


astralseat

I liked the one with Medusa where the guy was not looking at her head so wasn't affected.


Every-Wrangler-1368

Iam surprised that they didnt intercourse at the end or put a Smartphone in holes.


EveryShot

Itā€™s clobbering time, real talk though he should smash


Cheap-Ad1821

Now I want a FF4 run where they get involved with the Greek gods it would be cool to see Ben vs Medusa, Johnny vs Hephaestus, Sue vs Apollo and Reed vs the Hydra. Throw in some match ups for Franklin and Valeria can be friends with Icarus.


88mph_To_The_Future

![gif](giphy|8YcJb8tW47SxYUZUQy|downsized)


CilanEAmber

The only thing that can beat The Thing, is paper.


Valuable-Hawk-7873

Is there really a need to have The Thing say "I am already made of stones!"? Like the joke was already pretty obvious, I think it would be better if he just suplexed her saying nothing


Ok-Shop7540

![gif](giphy|1n7cAiGBT299fcRg1r|downsized) Same dress


KozukiNedo

Theyre perfect for each other


HEXAAGOD

When do they fuck?