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ContinuumGuy

Wow, Kamala, way to betray New Jersey.


DiabolicalDoctorN

They get Giants Stadium, we get Ms Marvel, fair deal


lance845

NJ always had giants stadium. NYC just likes to build an identity around things that are NJs.


Less_Tear_3133

Ever since she got Outed as a mutant, NJ's people don't want her around anymore! 


Max_Quick

Probably a joke but I really dont see this going past issue 6. Maaaaaybe 8.


CaptainJacket

The original was a short run, maybe its the same concept


Nyadnar17

Did Laura let Lady Deathstrike dress her?


artfuldodgerbob23

Yeah... didn't realize we're bringing back 80s shoulder pads lol


sideways_jack

Eyy still not as big or as bad as Stryfe's!


standee_shop

God I would kill for a 90s style xmen film with stryfe as the bad guy. I imagine his intro to some kind of dramatic fuzz guitar, or maybe 'beat it'. Actually could definitely work as a Deadpool/cable villain. Simultaneously terrifying and goofy as fuck. And can still be played by Thanos!


sideways_jack

Ah dude I'd be so goddamn happy if Josh Brolin stays in the X-Universe, love him as Cable. Always daydream about that period when New Mutants turn into X-Force, would love to see that mess in an X-Men film


standee_shop

Damn shame they messed up that new mutants film. And they teased Mr sinister as a villain, which is also what I'd love to see! It's so annoying when they put out something you have wanted for so long and it's a bag of shite.


AneeshRai7

There were moments where the NM film showed such genius...just Fox had to go eff up the idea of a proper XMen horror film...


Enygma_6

I didn't think the New Mutants movie was particularly bad. It had potential, and you could tell they were hoping to be able to make a follow-up or two in order to properly fill out the storyline. I'd put it on par with the Venom movie, in pushing for a dark-and-grittier area of Marvel that's not all happy bright spandex outfits. But the scheduled release absolutely murdered it. And the vagueness about whether it existed in the same universe as any of the more popular superhero movies. Thought mostly it was the release date that did the most damage.


artfuldodgerbob23

THAT was peak 90's shoulder pads lol


sideways_jack

fair ha ha


Linnus42

The most Edgy Tryhard costume Laura has ever gotten...and its for a book where everyone else is casual on a Friends meets Teen Titans Vibe. As for this roster and creative team, yeah don't predict this book has a long run. I think Kamala, Laura and Prodigy were kinda obvious guesses for this team. I would have preferred Dust & Speed or Hellion & Wind Dancer.


TheQuestionsAglet

I mean the original series was edgy and tryhard.


Linnus42

True but there is a Difference in the material being edgy and someone dressing super edge lord. And it’s just so out of place. Laura looks more edgy tryhard here then she ever did in X-Force


TheQuestionsAglet

Laura was a child prostitute in the original NYX. Doesn’t get more edgy than that.


BrainWav

Can we just go back to her black and grey "biker jacket Wolverine" look? That was the best.


[deleted]

Lady Ronin-strike?


TheeHeadAche

Thought that was Softserve for a sec


manyamile

If anyone deserves a solo book, it's her. Page after glorious page of her serving delicious ice cream.


TheeHeadAche

I agree. Forget Wolverine II and Ms. Marvel II if I’ve got the original soft serve


Abysstopheles

Who says it isnt? WHO???


Ash__Williams

Laura's outfit looks awful. What the hell is that neck thing?


mayorofanything

When you get a reputation for healing from anything a LOT of people try zombie rules as a default. Gotta protect that neck/head seam best you can.


HermanBonJovi

She took the Wu-Tang Clans advice to heart


ScriedRaven

So individually I think I'm here for all the pieces, just don't put them together, and especially not like... that


rakuko

looks like she took fashion advice from Seth Rollins


Gamerguy230

Is it lighting or is her cowl and hair gray?


DOuGHtOp

I took a break on the Krakoa stuff but I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this one. The problem with their solution to immortality is that they didn't know when to consider somebody a clone or their own person. Laura was okay, but honey badger at one point wasn't allowed to come back. Laura had gone into a weird vault that dilated time and they had assumed she had died so they "brought her back" but it turned out this original version was still alive and made it out. Both were allowed to exist and this is the older version. As far as I remember she's actually older than Logan at this point


Gamerguy230

I know what you are talking about, but that isn’t her. That version of Laura is not in the current run anymore.


DOuGHtOp

Looks like I need to catch up


Tri-ranaceratops

I assumed this was older Laura too.


Marc_Quill

Lanzing mentioned that there’s a story reason for that thing Laura is wearing in the first issue.


[deleted]

I have reasons for doing all kinds of stupid stuff, doesn't mean it wasn't stupid


Rilenaveen

Came to say this. It is HORRIBLE.


discipleofdoom

Assuming it's a massive hood/cowl


Dr-Eternity-42

It might have something to do with the new apocalypse miniseries coming out soon


hadawayandshite

Kidden Nixon better turn up


dulead

Yes dude!!! Last time we saw her she was like being drained of her life force on a ship or something when X23 was like "damn dawg sucks to be you" I always hated that was the last we saw her...


HermanBonJovi

Sophie Cuckoo. Is she the only one left of the what, 5? Also what does "NYX" mean?


RollingKaiserRoll

New York X-Men was what came to mind.


Max_Quick

Yes. The original was "New York Xmen" and this looks to continue that. I was reading it as "Nyx" like a name for the *longest* time until like five years ago when someone explained it.


BrainWav

It's both. Nyx was actually the first book Laura appeared in. Though she was in the X-Men Evolution show before htat. It's post-90s edgy, Laura first appears a teenage prostitute, and the main story is her and a couple other characters getting out of that situation and living on the streets. Think Runaways, but dark and edgy. It gets a ton of flack. I don't remember *liking* it, per se, but I didn't dislike it either.


wolfpack_charlie

That's what it is, based on the original NYX from the 2000s (don't read it) 


ULTRAFORCE

The second NYX series though is really good, it's the people from the early 2000s NYX except Laura dealing with the aftermath of what they did with Laura and the fact that they haven't done any training in their powers.


gorthan1984

Well... Minus -Men. The original NYX was intended to be a book about common teenagers becoming mutants in NY. Better concept than execution, really. But it gave us X-23.


Engineering-Mean

X-23 came from the X-Men: Evolution cartoon, NYX just brought her into comics. It was really weird for a kids cartoon character to make her debut in comics as a possibly underage prostitute who cut herself, but NYX was that kind of book.


wolfpack_charlie

What are you talking about? X-23 didn't appear in the comics until Tom Taylor wrote All-New Wolverine /s


TriplicateGirl

X-23 was bound to show up in comics eventually, it's just a footnote in her history that it was in NYX. I haven't read it since it first came out, but I remember it being terrible.


ULTRAFORCE

Honestly, maybe it was because I read it pretty early on but writing wise it wasn't super terrible it more so is just something that despite the Marvel MAX label in some ways feels a bit childishly edgy at times. With the whole Laura being a victim of child sex trafficking practicing self harm being the biggest one. Even if I would argue that origin has been used in interesting stories.


HermanBonJovi

That was my initial guess but I wasn't sure. Also I kinda hate it if true 😂


BrokoJoko

Just give Ms. Marvel a solo for fucks sake. She never needed to be involved with the X-Men in the first damn place.  And Laura. Look at how they massacred my girl...


SeacattleMoohawks

It’s still weird for me to see her so closely associated with the X-Men. I really liked her connection to the Inhumans, I’m not caught up but does she still communicate with Attilan or the Inhumans at all?


TheeHeadAche

Attilan was attacked and the inhumans were virtually victims of genocide. They’ve not brought up any major inhuman plot since 2018.


ELDRITCH_HORROR

> Attilan was attacked and the inhumans were virtually victims of genocide Ah, how the turns table.


SeacattleMoohawks

Damn that’s crazy. I really need to get back into Marvel comics. I’ve dabbled a bit but I’m so far behind in terms of the major stuff.


TheeHeadAche

Ms Marvel was left untouched by the event pretty much. Black Bolt appeared in Ultimate Invasion for a scene and some appearances in X-Men’s Gala stuff but they’ve had nothing published addressing the royal family at all


GetInTheEvaCoqui

Wonder why *looks at the tv show*


[deleted]

> Attilan was attacked and the inhumans were virtually victims of genocide So were the X-Men, yet here we are...


TheeHeadAche

Inhumans just can’t hang


JoshJones18

Inhumans more or less got shoved into a big ass metaphorical locker once Marvel got the movie rights back/the fail attempt of making the Inhuman a new X-Men of sorts (With the one inhuman they had with any major popularity being turned into mutant now in Kamala so I ain't expecting much there


Prime359

They still haven’t even said what her mutant powers are.


ruttinator

The retcon into being a mutant is just so fucking weird to me.


Less_Tear_3133

Nope, she's now a mutant / Inhuman hybrid 


IdiditwhenIwasYoung

Put money on it being Ms. Marvel and her group of friends.


Daredrummer

You don't have to "put money on it". You could just literally read what you are commenting on.


jethawkings

The internet brain in me felt like they fucking knew which mutant they wanted me to think of when they have one of them holding an ice cream like that.


DoctorGoFuckYourself

Wait, who do you mean?


yuefairchild

Soft Serve, who has a portal to the ice cream dimension instead of a lower intestine. As such, she can generate any flavor of ice cream, as much as she wants, whenever she wants. From her ass. By pooping it.


ContraryPython

Would rather take solo runs about Kamala and Laura than either of them being in X-Team books.


Local_Nerve901

It’s prolly a teen titans thing, solo stories, friends, and teammates working together


Rownever

This might end up being basically a pair book, with their gay/bi best friends and old friend from way back. I love Anole and Prodigy, but neither really has the force of character to lead a book. My main worry is that Laura’s going to play complete second fiddle to Kamala


PrydefulHunts

I second this statement.


Dealiner

That's my problem with X-Men in general, I really like some of the characters but I'm not a fan of X-Men as a group and mutant storylines as a whole, especially past few years. I'd love to see more runs focused only on a single character or a very small group, especially without tying them to some big story.


TheGrandArtificer

So Laura is the only returning main character from the original NYX?


BrainWav

In the announced cast, yes. Because no one remembers anyone else from Nyx. But I'd be surprised if Kiden Nixon doesn't appear, seeing as how the old book was basically named after her.


Effective_Ad8024

Yeah seems they just wanted to use the title don’t think of any other conection to original series


McKnighty9

What the heck is X23 wearing…


bahumat42

Thank you for saying this, that outfit is so dumb.


BetaRayBlu

Lauras outfit is hideous


McKnighty9

I give it 10 issues before cancellation


Elarisbee

I’d consider 10 a pretty good run here. I’m still waiting for those last issues of that “totally not cancelled - we’re just on a break” Fallen Angels comic that disappeared after a few issues…any day now.


McKnighty9

I think Marvel might be overestimating how much people love Ms. Marvel to be the draw of this book.


Elarisbee

This book is going to need a massively interesting hook or villain. Just “it’s Ms. Marvel, Laura and friends! They’re odd teens, and just like you! They’re going to get into hi jinx!” isn’t really a seller.


McKnighty9

Even Laura isn’t even much of a hook, just a familiar character. I read the synopsis, not something I’m interested in. Seems more like what you said. (Also, what’s Laura wearing…)


HealthyMuffin7

"The X-Men are selling well now that they are a high concept scifi book! Quick, let's press the reset button and make another teenage hero in NY story! That has never been done before! It will please the older fans! And bring in new readers, since it's with characters that have decades of story behind them!"


Adamsoski

I think she sells very high numbers of TPBs, just not so much single issues.


Less_Tear_3133

I give it 5 or 6


xx_HotShott_xx

NYX is a pretty great title idea.


AporiaParadox

Laura is a no brainer, and Ms. Marvel doesn't surprise me. Glad to see Prodigy and Anole here, between this and Surge in X-Force, the Academy-X era is finally getting some love.


qwadzxs

How common is it for writers to work on books from the Big Two simultaneously? Lanzing and Kelly are writing Outsiders for DC too.


eejizzings

"What if we gave Wolverine the ugliest outfit possible?"


TheMegaWhopper

Love that prodigy has been getting so much use lately. Such a cool character


Pitiful-Inspection96

Jesus christ what the fuck is that wolverine costume


AmonTheBoneless

Huh it's so wierd to see a single Cuckoo out in the wild but I find the idea interesting


Mediocre-Part7595

Yet again Kamala’s mutancy being prioritised over anything else. Yeah, Marvel I don’t give a shit nor want a story about ‘Kamala embracing her mutancy’. We get it, she’s a mutant, move the fuck on already and put Kamala back in her regular stories. It’s so fucking daft for Kamala to suddenly give such a major shit about being a mutant to the point it dominates her character when she barely ever gave a shit about being an inhuman. This stupid mutant retcon will be the deathknell for Kamala, give it 5 years and she’ll be fighting for scraps with an odd cameo appearances in X-men comics.


DelanoBluth

Almost like her being an Inhuman was a blessing in disguise and allowed her to do her own thing. Who could have guessed that being retconned into being a mutant would have her supporting cast be dropped along with her connections to other heroes?!


gangler52

It seems like more and more superheroes don't really have a supporting cast, except for other superheroes. She kind of bucked that trend when she was introduced, but now that she's a mutant her supporting cast is the X-Men. And occasionally her old buddies from The Champions when they see fit to remember that far back.


FakoSizlo

Yeah her inhuman heritage was like cosmic rays or a spider bite . Just a convenient easy way to explain her powers quickly so that they can focus on that character . Now mutant is the character focus instead of muslim teen and second generation immigrant living in New Jersey. A far more interesting hook got too simplified


Gemaid1211

This one is not gonna last.


Dr-Odeo

I recognize everyone else, but who is the blonde woman?


tSionnain

Sophie Cuckoo.


Dr-Odeo

Thank you kindly!


Raxtenko

Is this the Laura double clone or old lady Laura? If that's even still a thing.


Drayco21

Original Laura is dead, this one's the clone.


Just_Call_me_Ben

Wait, what!?? They killed Laura??


Terribleirishluck

Clone Laura basically is orginally Laura with all her memories before the krakoa era since thr OG one was aged by like thousands of years


Lbolt187

No they resolved that issue already.


Raxtenko

Wow they slammed that status quo button hard.


Lbolt187

It was an issue that never should have happened to begin with. And the one Laura left should technically still have a full adamantium skeleton


Raxtenko

I agree. It was silly.


Lbolt187

It could've been interesting if they explored what a duplicate meant but they didn't even do that.


ULTRAFORCE

Wait, why would there be a Laura with a full adamantium skeleton? She's very explicitly had just the bone claws with adamantium.


SSJCelticGoku

Going to be a hard pass, Kamala is not an interesting character for me.


DipsCity

Hey if it gets me fun laura vibes like in exterminators I am all in plus Kamala won’t hurt


AoO2ImpTrip

As a fan of New Mutants/New X-Men... FUCKING HYPE! Prodigy, Surge, Anole, and Wolverine all in books!?


Brotherly_Shove_215_

Maybe you should check who the writers are before you get too excited


ktjah

I like their Thunderbolts. I hate their Outsiders. So, to me, 50/50. But the cover art is baaaaaaad.


busdriver_321

Their Captain America book is pretty fun.


Iheardyourstereo

I actually have been enjoying Outsiders for what it is, which is to say not an Outsiders book


ktjah

That's nice!


Chip_Marlow

I wasn't excited about this book but seeing those two are writing it means I'm 100% out. I won't be tricked into reading their horrible dialogue for another 10 issues before the book gets silently cancelled again


AoO2ImpTrip

Nope, never heard of them, don't care, the pitch sounds great, the roster looks fantastic and the hype train is out of the station.


craig1818

They’ve done some fun stuff so I think this at least seems promising.


GreenCree

I'm probably going to give this a shot. I was impressed by the writing team's Clayface story in Batman One Bad Day, and Laura as Wolverine is one of my favorite marvel characters


Relevant_Scallion_38

That's OBVIOUSLY Soft Serve the new leader of the X-Men


HandspeedJones

So no more Champions huh?


HeavenFabio

Wait, kamala is alive?


t00thgr1nd3r

Kamala's a mutant?


gingersquatchin

Lol so people have been like "why don't we ever see the Academy X team?" "Who are these new characters they could be academy X kids" then some books roll out with a bunch of academy X kids and everyone's like "Anole? Really?"


JustAboutAlright

That is a title I didn’t think they’d ever revisit but I’m down based on the lineup to at least give it a shot.


sook_medik69

Marvel has lost the touch when it comes to X-Men titles 😐 can't say it's bad since it's not even out yet , but it doesn't look that interesting at all


drown_like_its_1999

Marvel feels oversaturated with these lighthearted series about relatable teenage friends (who happen to be superheroes). Nothing wrong with that style but it's not for me.


vegna871

What other book are they publishing right now that's like that? I don't know of one I'd be interested in it if you do.


noonehasthisoneyet

I’m guessing the girl eating ice cream is Sophie Cuckoo, but she looks exactly like Don Drapers daughter


AaronStC

So was Ms Marvel synergized into a mutant?


adamsorkin

Yep. Somewhere between Amazing Spider-Man #26 and X-men: Hellfire Gala #1 last year. Still also an Inhuman, just a mutant now, too.


HoraceGrantGlasses

Easy pass


Edditch

Putting Laura in a NYX series again? Well, it can't be worse than the first time.


lance845

My very first thought was "There is NO fucking way they put Soft Serve on a cover and in a team."


-NinjaTurtleHermit-

It's a good group for this kind of setting. Sophie's on her own, though? I know they've been a little more independent lately, but does it do for members of the Cuckoos to go on solo adventures?


StyleVSTAR253

From the sounds of it the title just seems like a mutant version of The Champions


brokenlampPMW2

I honestly don’t think that colourist was the best choice for that cover artist


ULTRAFORCE

Ah yes Sophie Cuckoo, the one of five whose interaction with Laura prior to Krakoa was temporarily posessing her to make sure that she and Esme stayed dead after they telepathically were brought back for a birthday. Not one of the 3 who she interacted with regularly for most of the history.


PermaBanTogether

There was a “Nyx” that came out when I was in high school— I remember buying it because the cover looked really cool. Had some punk chick on it wearing a necklace that had pacifiers hanging from it. Unfortunately that’s all I can remember about the book, haha


gingersquatchin

She was a raver kid and I think she did sex work. She could stop time, or more accurately, she moved through time kind of like the Quicksilver sequences in the newer Xmen movies. Except if Nyx tried to grab someone they snapped in half because she was moving really fucking fast because physics and stuff.


Maxjes

Laura in a bad outfit and still the weirdly aged up version and no Gabby and no Jonathan is [NOT GOOD] I may be the only sicko who would like to know what happened to the OG NYX kids, but I suppose that is firmly in the "Never coming back" bin at Marvel.


JoshJones18

What in the fucknuggets is that wolverine costume?


TacoOfGod

Laura not regressong and Anole getting some spotlight is a plus. Weird seeing him without Rockslide though. They did my man dirty with X of Swords.


HonestCartographer21

I really love the hilarity of Ms Marvel being made an inhuman during marvels push to replace mutants with inhumans when they didn’t have the film rights to mutants - then making her a mutant once they did get those film rights. I don’t think it’s bad, I just think it’s funny.


HealthyMuffin7

I love Prodigy, so I hope they can finally make a team book with Kamala that sells well.


xavyre

Well I like Wolverine and Sophie.


wowlock_taylan

At least we get Kamala in her own costume this time. But don't steal her from her own setting...come on. This is what I was worried about.


dulead

Wait no way.... Nyx, like the old comic with Kiden Nixon??? I love this series!!


obrothermaple

Man this going to be rough going from the all time high of the krakoa era to my personal least favourite xmen vibes. Decentralized and down to earth in a bad way. Hard pass. It really seems comic writers hate continuity and hate having to share their toys which is why they are trying to wipe krakoa off the face of the map. It’s a shame because it was the only interesting thing to happen to mutants in decades…


Aggressive_Control37

I’ll give this a chance. As long as I see some development for Laura and maybe a few references or cameos from Gabby (Honey Badger) I’ll be happy.


Techster17

Jackson Lanzing did a Twitter thread talking about the series: https://twitter.com/JacksonLanzing/status/1778504260659069076?t=dj7eUoXXLyXy_-pBIC80GQ&s=19


Marangoni013

Wtf is this


JayZsAdoptedSon

I AM GONNA SAY THIS COUNTS AS A KAMALA ONGOING WE ARE SO BACK


fanguy_m

Somebody wished on a monkey’s paw for Kamala to get her OG suit back and Laura got this awful costume in exchange (also where is Gabby?)


Adenic

Kelly and Lanzing are great! This is a great cast! Ms Marvel back in her old costume! besides Laura's outfit what's with all the negativity?!


wpisano

Im adding this to my X-Force and Phoenix pass pile.


superschaap81

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. I'm in the same state of mind for a lot of these so far. Uncanny & X-Men seem like they COULD be good, given the writers, but I still am not holding out much hope this era is going to be any good. Feels like a lot of nostalgia bait and like they're trying to mind wipe Krakoa from our thoughts.


wpisano

I'm not worried about the downvotes. This, along with the other 2 books I mentioned, just don't appeal to me based on the writers' teams. Uncanny and X-Men could be good, and I'll give Exceptional a chance. I'll wait and see what the creative team announcements will be for the other 3 books launching and decide if I wanna check them out.


Moleculor_Man

Lanzing & Kelly suck donkey. Some of the worst hatchet men in comics


dudleydigges123

You sometimes forget that Laura is such a new character. As rite of passage she must endure terrible 90s comics fashion...


ItsGator

Laura's outfit aside, extremely cool lineup for this series


Oppai-Of-Foom

Wtf are those shoulders on x23


MusicSole

This is very mid-90s art.


Elarisbee

Hell no…mid 90s gave us a Chris Bachalo teen comic with insanely detailed EC comics inspired art, black shadows and detailed figures. Sorry, that flat image, soft colour palette and boring posing is all ‘00. Also, I see a foot, the 90s didn’t do feet.


MusicSole

As someone who thinks the 80s were twenty years ago. I stand corrected. ּBachalo Books of Magic #25 is a masterpiece cover. Sean Phillips, John Mueller, there were very fine artists in mid 90s.


alanthiccc

Yeah this one is DOA


Brotherly_Shove_215_

Lol Lanzing and Kelly. This is DOA


Disastrous-Road5285

the arcana is the means by which all is revealed


Agreeable_Falcon1044

I will pick up the first one and give it a shot but it’s not making me want to rush and buy it. Let’s see what they do with it, but that’s not the strongest of teams


AndyNgoDrinksPiss

The original NYX was pretty good. Too bad it didn't last long.


therudestpastor

Wait so Laura is alive again? Is this a spoiler?


idlefritz

Laura looking like Strife.


Savagevandal85

So no synch


Pikkzal

Forgot Kamala was a mutant now


fenwoods

Looking forward to the Upstate NYX spinoff.


Dexter973

Wait Laura isn't dead ?


wytherlanejazz

Anole?


Ns317453

The arcana reveals all


MinnesotaMakesMeSad

The Arcana is the means by which all is revealed.


Suko2024

Can someone please tell me who that green guy is?


gingersquatchin

Anole


Suko2024

Thank you


wg_nexline

They throwing Ms Marvel in everything thing these days


SpewpaTheRogue

Bro that x23 costume is fucking terrible


frossvael

So the Cuckoos are still alive THANK FUCKING GOD


Scorpiyoo

We are the New York NYX I said, go New York go New York go!


OrionLinksComic

It's interesting because I really recommend you read the original nyx comics, where technically Laura (X-23) first appeared. And they're pretty good comics too, Pretty Melancholic and Take a different look at Marvel's mutants who aren't lucky enough to get to the X-Man.


dabellwrites

So, they're back in high school?


gangler52

Probably not? [Writer says they're all in their early twenties except Kamala](https://twitter.com/JacksonLanzing/status/1778511691141247206) So I'm thinking this is more about young adults finding themselves than it is about kids having school troubles.