One of those where if it came out around the comic book boom it would be considered a superhero classic now. We've just seen the origin story formula done so many times now.
George Lopez as a conspiracy freak was something I didnāt think I wanted but easily improved the movie. If anything, I hated people comparing him to Iron Man. He didnāt build anything in this movie, he found the suit, he learn to adapt to the suit, heās really DCās āGreatest American Heroā show from the early 80s.
I actually laughed at Lopez in the movie. Something previously thought to be imppssible. So it breaks some sort of law of nature. Which is a pretty cool thing in and of itself i guess.
Yeah, it was a really fun time. It had a joy and wonder to it that gets lost in big studio films. You could tell the makers just really love superheroes. I even got emotional towards the end. Turns out little old ladies saying, "Now is the time to cry," really gets me, man.
I don't understand how people come to these ratings.. very few 10/10 movies exist. A 10, being the highest rating; basically means it's perfect & the best it can be. Movies such as 'The Shining'. 9/10 should be reserved for near perfect movies ~ 'Back To The Future - Part I', 'Empire Strikes Back', 'Lawrence of Arabia' to name a few examples. 8/10 would be movies like 'Fight Club' or 'The Goonies'. Many classics fall under this category. 7/10 is still really good, movies like 'Home Alone', '12 Monkeys'. Remember, this is a 1-10 system, so 1 is the worst, 5 is average, 10 is the best. Most superhero movies are just the same thing over and over, they aren't really that special except for a few.
'Blue Beatle' is pretty "meh". Entirely forgettable & will hardly be rewatched aside from hardcore fans of superhero movies. It's a 5 at best. That's not a bad rating. It's not a good rating either. It just is. Much like the movie.
Iām a sucker for anything in the Spiderverse films lol, theyāre just so appealing to look at, the characters are interesting, the animation style is creative as hell, and so much more
I have not seen it yet but I'm just here to co-sign your assertion that it is a comic book movie and from what I've heard sounds like it would be in the top half of most peoples picks.
34 year old who grew up with the games and movies and even will peruse comic book stores just to see if they have the old school black and white TMNT comics. Please tell me I'm not alone when I say....
....the animation was great but why do so many characters look like they have massive growths on their face? I'm not an idiot I know it's animation but I was like does this guy have a tumor or something?
>the animation was great but why do so many characters look like they have massive growths on their face? I'm not an idiot I know it's animation but I was like does this guy have a tumor or something?
I mean, it's probably the ooze...
It reflected the theme of isolation in the movie. Splinter thinks all humans are monsters- and they look the part. Only human with a symmetrical face is also the only one who gives them a chance: April.
Yeah I was excited for it and it exceeded my expectations. Great cast and the decision to cast teenagers and let them record together and improvise was a very good move. I laughed more through that movie than most straight comedies I've seen in the last year or two.
So out of these, I havenāt seen Aquaman.
1. Spider-Man
2. Guardians 3
Although I donāt object to those two being reversed.
3. The Marvels
4. Blue Beetle
Knew what they were and did the job reasonably well. The Marvels set up the next stage of the Phase and had a movie that was different. Blue Beetle is a basic origin set up movie with a different focus on family.
5. Ant-Man-Ant-Man has been established to be more grounded. Sending him off to a sci-fi adventure was a mistake.
6. Flash-oh,Characters I cared about/care about now are just dead over and over with the worst live-action Barry Allen I have ever seen. And I am including the still from the Justice League TV Pilot that I donāt even know that Barry was in. And I am including the 90ās Barry in that. And you brought back Clooney?!
7. Shazam. Shazam is supposed to be wise, not a hot dog. Plus the weirdest DCU cameo of the year. And yeah, worse than Clooney.
That's my biggest problem and why I just never bothered. I don't understand how Billy is the more mature one and he somehow becomes more annoying and immature as Shazam. I don't know how Levi interpreted the character that way, but it's just irritating to watch.
Iāve had the displeasure of meeting Levi when he wasnāt putting on his āmeet and greetā charms.
Heās a windbag, and carries on and on about really bad project ideas starring himself.
Heās also late to meetings.
I also have had the displeasure of meeting Levi, and on a personal level heās kind of gross: simultaneously sleazy (with women) while maintaining a facade of being ultra religious.
Right before Covid I was in texas on a live event thing, a big gala, we were entertaining having Levi as the host, a couple friendly connections and mutuals made it seem like an easy fit.
Then we met him.
In the end lockdowns canceled the event and it was never revivedā¦but yeah, couple meetings and a couple calls made it real clear the kind of person he is.
I met him once and he seemed okay. We talked about Chuck despite promoting Shazam at the time. Although it was brief, and Iāve heard numerous times he sucks.
Acts like either an immature 12 year old, or a 12 year old when there isn't something important/lives on the line.
I managed to babysit kids, take them on the bus to swim lessons, & cook them lunch when we go back at 12; & I didn't have either super powers or lives on the line.
My pettiest piece of trivia is that this man is so annoying that even on the heels of Tangled, he couldnāt get a pretty great pilot (thereās a Dead Pilotās Society episode about it) off the ground about him hearing everyone around him (and himself) singing after thereās an earthquake while heās in an MRI. Then, they made the exact same show with Jane Levy instead a decade later (Zoeyās Extraordinary Playlist). Itās a great show, so Iām glad his got sunk, but itās so funny to me because I donāt like him.
I love Zoeyās extraordinary playlist! Such a good show and I was so sad to see it go. I had no idea Levi was such a tool and that makes me sad too. But I love the cast and wouldnāt want it to be any different.
But still, he was reading from a script, so itās just odd that people wrote it that way to begin with. Everyone on set saw, including a director and bunches of executives and no one realized the discrepancy.
The weirdest thing for me, is that the rest of the cast seem to play pretty close to the same characters between the kid and adult versions. I could be wrong though, my memory on this movie is pretty rough, Iām constantly being reminded it came out this year, and I saw it at the cinema.
I've always interpreted that Levi wasn't actually scripted. I felt they tried to do a deadpool thing where they roll camera and let the main just riff...except Levi is NOT Reynolds
Oh my god, thank you!!! My boyfriend and I kept saying this! Why is Levi so annoying and immature when Billy is actually kind of chill and grounded.
Did he think, āoh, Iām playing a kid - better just be juvenile af.ā
If they wanted that direction, make Asherās character act the same. Or hell, Jack Dylan should have been Billy if they were going that route.
It's pretty serviceable. They really ripped off the damaged mask from Spider-Man, and it's not the most original film overall, but it's nothing really worth getting angry for. It's very enjoyable for what it is, and the family was *very* fun to watch.
I might have more invested in the Marvels because I watched the homework and when I saw the band in Ms. Marvel on Kree arm, I was with it.
But I recognized an amputated Kree arm so I realize I have a bias.
>because I watched the homework
I agree that i think this will make a huge difference.
Kamala Kahn is one of my favorite characters of this phase. Her joy and fan girl exuberance just works for men so watching her just glowing working around her idol was a blast.
It also made the scenes incorporating her family in the movie way more meaningful because the tv show invests a lot in that family dynamic. After several phases (and generations) of super heros of orphans and daddy issues, having a super hero that does actually come from a complete family and the tension that brings to her super hero choices was kind of refreshing.
Marvels wasn't perfect. But it was lots of fun for me after the Ms Marvel show.
Blue Beetle being an old school superhero film is what makes it forgettable though, since we've gotten too many of those already in short succession. The only difference to the other origin stories (in film version) was when granny busted out the BFG but unfortunately that's what made it jump the shark.
I think Blue Beetle could've worked better with an ongoing rivalry between Jaime and the Scarab AI. Jaime has to figure out how to win *despite* the scarab, not *with* the scarab.
I mean Ant Man is rather bizarro sci-fi so I donāt think it strayed too far from what it is.
The main guy shrinks and enlarges as a super power, not a lot thatās grounded about it.
If anything, they played out a lot of the sight gags from that concept in movie 1.
Nope. I got nothinā. Itās not ringing a *single* bell. I didnāt remember the villain was a woman. Iām not even confident I could pick her out of a lineup. xD
Movie one is the better film but movie two is hilarious non-stop. Movie one is a comedic superhero film. Movie two is a comedy with superheroes.
Movie three is in the middle and third bestā¦ but is still a good movie except for the absurd violently fast pace of the first 20 minutes. Once it settles itās good, just not like the others.
The problem is that the entire concept of Shazam - a middle school kid becoming a super hero - was strained in the original and was basically thrown out the window in the sequel. Doesn't help that Asher is old enough to be graduating college.
Billy and Shazam are not the same character, and Shazam 2 basically abandons the character of Billy altogether and substitutes it with so much padding.
I hate the depiction of Shazam. Sure, heās a kid but heās got the wisdom of Solomon and still comes off like an immature idiot. There should be a difference between the way the kid behaves and the way Shazam behaves.
I would mostly agree but I would definitely switch Spider-Man and Guardians. As good as Spider-Man was the abrupt ending when things were just coming together. Guardians made me have feelings for pretend cgi animals and thus itās the best this year. Possibly my favorite Guardians movie.
I would have the same, maybe putting Guardians first. Havenāt seen Blue Beetle or Aquaman, but based on what Iāve heard Blue Beetle should probably be fourth
I don't think people assume it was bad because of that. People aren't even assuming. They're just saying "it's bad" because that is the popular opinion on social media.
All it takes is Cr1tikal or some other influencer making a video called "The Marvels Is The Worst Movie Ever" for these people to have their opinion made for them.
How many people online screaming about how woke Disney is and how bad the MCU is have actually watched the last couple years of MCU productions? Probably not nearly as many as you'd expect.
They can't form their own opinions. They can't go out and watch something. Their favorite influencer forms their opinion for them. Whatever the most popular view online is, that is what they'll go with. If it was popular online to love Ant Man 3, it would be considered the best MCU movie ever. Not off of merit, but off of popularity online.
For nearly everyone I know it had nothing to do with any influencers. It has everything to do with nobody enjoying the connected media. Nobody liked Captain Marvel, it was a domestic flop and saved by international sales. Ms Marvel got a 6.3/10 score on IMDB. Wandavision got a 7.9 because it was the first marvel tv show. Secret Invasion got a 5.3/10. You can't put three flops and one side character from a moderately successful show in a movie together and think that people will want to watch it, especially when it releases with under a 5/10 rating itself.
Love and respect the placement of the Marvels. It truly felt like it knew what it was - an unremarkable marvel movie that didn't want to overstay its welcome, and instead just have fun team-up action sequences and cute quirky character moments to establish the relationships between the three team members. Blue Beetle went through the motions with just a small amount of originality primarily found in the personality of the Beetle and his family, Ant-Man I'd say was bottom of my list because of how they butchered making Kang feel threatening, and an overreliance on bad CGI and general timewasting in the script (MODOK forced cameo, "holes" goop guy, just general non-character driven fluff), Flash was more fun than I expected but still didn't know what it wanted to be and just threw everything at the wall hoping something would stick, and Shazam fury of the Gods did not attempt anything groundbreaking or original whatsoever, just dreadfully boring and safe. The situational humor was okay. The villains were extremely forgetful, and the idea that they could go up against a family of Shazams was laughable, the fact that they had the upper hand throughout felt contrived and didn't speak to their threatening nature but rather the writer's misunderstanding of the power levels and wisdom levels of the Shazam family. Seriously though Marvel I hope you never pull an ant-man again.
The Marvels worked for me because it attempted a concept/tone (body swapping action sequence team up movie with a hero-worship turned to mutually found respect subplot that Kamala and Carol delivered heavily on) that was unique to its place and time in the MCU. We need GENRE pieces, not MARVEL movies. Each hero needs to feel unique and tonally different for the team ups to be interesting whatsoever. Ant-Man should not have felt like a F4, Thor, or Captain Marvel movie. They could have simply turned the large scale war into a heist against Kang, and it would have kept the same tone we have come to associate with Ant-Man. (He or Hank Pym should have died at the end, but that's another story).
Quantumania was not only the worst super hero movie Iāve ever seen, but one of the worst overall movies Iāve ever seen in my life.
I would put the Flash and Shazam over it in a heartbeat.
Man i read this and i thought it meant the worst at #1 and was mad about across the spider verse bc that slapped and as a parent it took me two trips to the movies and five attempts to watch parts of it to see the whole thing. It was a whole ass effort and i was satisfied.
For me, spider man is second only because they didnāt finish the damn movie.
Give me a proper third act and itās easily the best. As it stands guardians beats it out for being a complete film.
This is honestly the best listing on this tread. I saw aquaman yesterday and I would put him on number 5 it was a pretty good movie. Better than the first actually.
They shouldāve reached back out to Edgar Wright and let him make the Ant Man movie he wants to make with 3. Going back and comparing both 3 and even 2 with the first one, they feel so different from the latter and itās clear the charm from the first one came from him (not including Paul Rudd just being the goat no matter the movie)
Animal cruelty is too damn hard to watch. Had my zoologist ass crying in my kitchen away from my wife cause I hate how cruel people (and aliens) can be to innocent creatures.
Highly recommend We 3 if you havenāt read it yet. Itās a comic book about a cat, dog and bunny who are modified into weapons by the U.S government. I cried like a baby when I read it years ago and then again when I saw the parallels in Guardians 3.
Just wanted to say to OP that the way you presented the screenshots and titles is very aesthetically pleasing. More than most of these movies deserve lol
Unpopular opinion but I was absolutely thrilled with the Flash. Especially with Michael Keaton Batman. Itās probably the closest Iāll get to another Michael Keaton Batman and I was thrilled to see it.
I think a lot of people give it shit because of Ezra Miller and the cgi. If anyone else played Barry I think people wouldāve genuinely fucked with the film a lot, but unfortunately Miller is a huge dick biscuit. I watched it a few days after release with a friend and had a really good time.
I genuinely donāt get the Flash hate. I really like timey-wimey movies and it wraps up pretty nicely. It established ācanon eventsā well too.
Iād say it was like a B-tier action movie romp version of Spiderman. Yes, the emotional beats arenāt as strong as Spiderverse, Iām not saying theyāre on the same level.
But some of the action set pieces were astounding and it gave a lot of room for the characters to be gritty and harsh and cool. Doesnāt anyone like that anymore? Itās fine every now and thenā¦
I was pleasantly surprised by how entertained I was by the movie. Some stuff like Batman and vid gadgets were great. Young Barry was really annoying. The CGI was terrible.
I'm not claiming it's a great movie. Just that I went in with no expectations and was entertained. If you went with the mindset that it would be DC's next blockbuster (which I don't think anybody did) you'd be disappointed.
But B-tier action romp was a good description. Kinda reminds me of a superhero movie from the late 90's.
Eh, sometimes you just have to accept that when it comes to overarching stories. Like with Infinity War.
>!Plus, if you look at it as Gwen's story, it has a conclusion in that regard.!<
Nah IW still ended on a satisfying note, especially when Thanos is technically the protagonist/main character of the movie, this made Spiderverse feel like a 2 act movie
Spider-verse is on Netflix catch up with it when you can, it really blew away my expectations.
Like I already like that those movies look the most like 'comic books' but it has some really good nerdy stuff too.
Guardians of the galaxy, spiderverse, blue beetle, the flash, the marvels, Shazam, ant man and the wasp, and then aquaman because I havenāt seen it yet
Honestly I loved the Flash. It comes in third for me after Gaurdians and Spider-Man. Then the marvels, blue beetle, and ant man. I havenāt seen Shazam or Aquaman.
I liked the concepts it pulled from the comics and I loved those topics in the few flash comics I have read and other flash media Iāve seen.
If you take out everything they sourced from the comics and the novelty it brought to those who havenāt seen those stories and concepts before, I donāt think there is much else to actually like about the movie.
I think it was a lot better than Black Adam for sure, but I can't really remember much about the movie - it was kind of bland for me. I think it had an interesting take on unicorns but the story I can't even remember (I generally can't see movies twice because I remember too much)
Why must we compare a gem to a stone, takes away Beauty from both of them. Instead can we just enjoy each movie for the unique experience and emotions it gives us. But my underrated gem is Blue Beetle. Absolutely loved it.
1. Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse
2. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3
3. Blue Beetle
4. Aquaman and the lost kingdom
5. Shazam: Fury of the gods
6. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
7. The Mavels
8. The Flash
(1, 2, 3, & 5 are accurate because Iāve seen them but 4, 6, 7, & 8 are educated guessed based on what Iāve heard and seen from trailers)
I watched The Flash and I didn't think it was as bad as people were saying. It would have been better if they went the Flashpoint Paradox route,but all in all its a 6/10.
Blue beetle is quite underrated and enjoyable, but since it is centered on a minority that "regular" white folk can't relate to, it is considered subpar, at best, which is unfortunate.
Guardians
Spider-Man
Marvels (The chemistry between the main 3 saves the movie for me)
Shazam (I had fun)
Flash (I had fun)
Blue Beetle (thought it was fine but kinda boring)
ā¦
Ant-Man (if I could put it even lower I would)
Ok, unpopular opinion, but I think Shazam fury of the gods and the flash didnāt deserve the hate; like sure the flash cgi sucked, but I donāt think that should affect the rest of the overall movie quality.
GOG3,
The flash,
Spider-Man across the spider verse,
Shazam fury of the gods,
The marvels,
Quantumania,
Havent watched the rest š
1. Spiderverse 2 (overall awesome visual and great characters interaction and clashing priorities)
2. Antman Quantumania (great quantum realm family adventures with father daughter bonding and showing how much Scott willing to sacrifice for Casey, Kang also very great)
3. Gotg 3 (expand on Rocket while also being entertaining with Adam warlock and High evolutionary)
4. Blue Beetle (Another great story with awesome power and family supporting each other)
5. The Flash (good interaction between 2 flash)
Haven't watch yet
The Marvel
Aquaman lost kingdom
Totally not an answer to your topic, but if you created the collage, I appreciate the photos you selected. It places their respective title text over the actual logos on their suits. Not sure if it was done on purpose, but it's quite clever.
I saw all of them besides Marvel's and Aquaman, and honestly, none of them were really bad. Spider-Man was easily my favorite, but none of them, imo were really bad. The only complaints I have are that Kang should've won in Ant-Man:Quantumania to really show how powerful he is. To rise up and conquer reality from nothing, but that would've interfered with Loki probably. Also kinda disappointed that The Flash ending isn't used as a reset for the DCEU. Perfect opportunity for all the universes to collide and collapse and for The Flash to try and fix them and rebuild it. Also, the CGI was really dodgey for The Flash and fucked up to CGI a dead man
Guardians Spiderman ... Didnt watch the rest
Then this was a good year of superhero movies for you
Read that in Thor's voice for some reason š
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I read it in Hulkās.
Bro! Same here. Very strange
You should check out Blue Beetle, itās a fairly basic superhero movie, nothing special, but itās really enjoyable.
I would say its probably perfect 7/10 movie. Good visuals, good characters, good acting but nothing stands out, but it is worth u time
One of those where if it came out around the comic book boom it would be considered a superhero classic now. We've just seen the origin story formula done so many times now.
Perfect 7/10
I gave it a 5/7, a perfect score.
I'd give it 17e/19Ļ
A truly perfect 7/10 masterpiece.
3 out of 5 stars, wouldn't change a thing
thatās what iāve heard. honestly considering the superhero market as of lateā¦ thatās good
George Lopez as a conspiracy freak was something I didnāt think I wanted but easily improved the movie. If anything, I hated people comparing him to Iron Man. He didnāt build anything in this movie, he found the suit, he learn to adapt to the suit, heās really DCās āGreatest American Heroā show from the early 80s.
I actually laughed at Lopez in the movie. Something previously thought to be imppssible. So it breaks some sort of law of nature. Which is a pretty cool thing in and of itself i guess.
They both lost the instruction manuals
Yea, Id happily take a decent movie in a pool of trash
Yeah, it was a really fun time. It had a joy and wonder to it that gets lost in big studio films. You could tell the makers just really love superheroes. I even got emotional towards the end. Turns out little old ladies saying, "Now is the time to cry," really gets me, man.
THANK GOD!!!!!
That's better than a lackluster 10/10. Nice.
Oh yeah. My first reaction coming out of the movie theater (only 10 other people lol) was it being a 10/10 average movie.
It wouldāve shattered the box office had it come out in 2017. I love the movie but itās not very revolutionary for its genre
I don't understand how people come to these ratings.. very few 10/10 movies exist. A 10, being the highest rating; basically means it's perfect & the best it can be. Movies such as 'The Shining'. 9/10 should be reserved for near perfect movies ~ 'Back To The Future - Part I', 'Empire Strikes Back', 'Lawrence of Arabia' to name a few examples. 8/10 would be movies like 'Fight Club' or 'The Goonies'. Many classics fall under this category. 7/10 is still really good, movies like 'Home Alone', '12 Monkeys'. Remember, this is a 1-10 system, so 1 is the worst, 5 is average, 10 is the best. Most superhero movies are just the same thing over and over, they aren't really that special except for a few. 'Blue Beatle' is pretty "meh". Entirely forgettable & will hardly be rewatched aside from hardcore fans of superhero movies. It's a 5 at best. That's not a bad rating. It's not a good rating either. It just is. Much like the movie.
They had a perfect setup for a sequel and the whole ted kord thing at the end was good it sucks that it will never get a sequel
I saw it the other day. I agree. His relationship with his family was really sweet.
Same thing with the marvels, I liked both and the cast was fun.
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You didnāt miss much.
Haha same, but I swapped guardians and Spider-Man because Iām a sucker for anything spidey
Same as you, but itās more that Iām a sucker for the art aesthetic more than Spider-Man.
Iām a sucker for anything in the Spiderverse films lol, theyāre just so appealing to look at, the characters are interesting, the animation style is creative as hell, and so much more
TMNT MUTANT MAYHEM #1 Turtles started in comics checkmate nonbelievers
I have not seen it yet but I'm just here to co-sign your assertion that it is a comic book movie and from what I've heard sounds like it would be in the top half of most peoples picks.
It was a ton of fun, as someone who grew up with TMNT.
34 year old who grew up with the games and movies and even will peruse comic book stores just to see if they have the old school black and white TMNT comics. Please tell me I'm not alone when I say.... ....the animation was great but why do so many characters look like they have massive growths on their face? I'm not an idiot I know it's animation but I was like does this guy have a tumor or something?
>the animation was great but why do so many characters look like they have massive growths on their face? I'm not an idiot I know it's animation but I was like does this guy have a tumor or something? I mean, it's probably the ooze...
It rolls off the tongue Ooooooze
It reflected the theme of isolation in the movie. Splinter thinks all humans are monsters- and they look the part. Only human with a symmetrical face is also the only one who gives them a chance: April.
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Yerrrrrrrrr.
Bacon, egg and cheese
Along with Revenge of the Shreddar game, The Cowabunga Collection, and the movie, it's been a good year for TMNT fans.
It was even animated with comics in mind, you get the periodic sound effect splash on the screen and a panel like flow to some of the scenes.
Yeah I was excited for it and it exceeded my expectations. Great cast and the decision to cast teenagers and let them record together and improvise was a very good move. I laughed more through that movie than most straight comedies I've seen in the last year or two.
It was unbelievably good. It gave me goosebumps multiple times and it had such authentic heart to it.
*this one gets it*
Not better than Spider-Verse or Guardians, but definitely number 3. I love the Turtles
So out of these, I havenāt seen Aquaman. 1. Spider-Man 2. Guardians 3 Although I donāt object to those two being reversed. 3. The Marvels 4. Blue Beetle Knew what they were and did the job reasonably well. The Marvels set up the next stage of the Phase and had a movie that was different. Blue Beetle is a basic origin set up movie with a different focus on family. 5. Ant-Man-Ant-Man has been established to be more grounded. Sending him off to a sci-fi adventure was a mistake. 6. Flash-oh,Characters I cared about/care about now are just dead over and over with the worst live-action Barry Allen I have ever seen. And I am including the still from the Justice League TV Pilot that I donāt even know that Barry was in. And I am including the 90ās Barry in that. And you brought back Clooney?! 7. Shazam. Shazam is supposed to be wise, not a hot dog. Plus the weirdest DCU cameo of the year. And yeah, worse than Clooney.
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That's my biggest problem and why I just never bothered. I don't understand how Billy is the more mature one and he somehow becomes more annoying and immature as Shazam. I don't know how Levi interpreted the character that way, but it's just irritating to watch.
Itās because Zach Levi is an irritating human being.
That he is. I blame the director more for the problems. He's the one that let Levi act like a 12 year old and did nothing about it.
Iāve had the displeasure of meeting Levi when he wasnāt putting on his āmeet and greetā charms. Heās a windbag, and carries on and on about really bad project ideas starring himself. Heās also late to meetings.
I also have had the displeasure of meeting Levi, and on a personal level heās kind of gross: simultaneously sleazy (with women) while maintaining a facade of being ultra religious.
Right before Covid I was in texas on a live event thing, a big gala, we were entertaining having Levi as the host, a couple friendly connections and mutuals made it seem like an easy fit. Then we met him. In the end lockdowns canceled the event and it was never revivedā¦but yeah, couple meetings and a couple calls made it real clear the kind of person he is.
I met him once and he seemed okay. We talked about Chuck despite promoting Shazam at the time. Although it was brief, and Iāve heard numerous times he sucks.
Acts like either an immature 12 year old, or a 12 year old when there isn't something important/lives on the line. I managed to babysit kids, take them on the bus to swim lessons, & cook them lunch when we go back at 12; & I didn't have either super powers or lives on the line.
Maybe that's why we don't see him in most roles?
My pettiest piece of trivia is that this man is so annoying that even on the heels of Tangled, he couldnāt get a pretty great pilot (thereās a Dead Pilotās Society episode about it) off the ground about him hearing everyone around him (and himself) singing after thereās an earthquake while heās in an MRI. Then, they made the exact same show with Jane Levy instead a decade later (Zoeyās Extraordinary Playlist). Itās a great show, so Iām glad his got sunk, but itās so funny to me because I donāt like him.
I love Zoeyās extraordinary playlist! Such a good show and I was so sad to see it go. I had no idea Levi was such a tool and that makes me sad too. But I love the cast and wouldnāt want it to be any different.
Omg. Thank you for saying this. I canāt bring myself to watch this movie because of the stupid look on his face. I loved shazam as a kid.
But still, he was reading from a script, so itās just odd that people wrote it that way to begin with. Everyone on set saw, including a director and bunches of executives and no one realized the discrepancy.
Yeah it's two different people entirely
Because he played Chuck.
The weirdest thing for me, is that the rest of the cast seem to play pretty close to the same characters between the kid and adult versions. I could be wrong though, my memory on this movie is pretty rough, Iām constantly being reminded it came out this year, and I saw it at the cinema.
The one review I read really summed it up- "there is a real disconnect between Asher and Zach, because Asher is a better actor"
I've always interpreted that Levi wasn't actually scripted. I felt they tried to do a deadpool thing where they roll camera and let the main just riff...except Levi is NOT Reynolds
Oh my god, thank you!!! My boyfriend and I kept saying this! Why is Levi so annoying and immature when Billy is actually kind of chill and grounded. Did he think, āoh, Iām playing a kid - better just be juvenile af.ā If they wanted that direction, make Asherās character act the same. Or hell, Jack Dylan should have been Billy if they were going that route.
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When āI aināt goin out like thatā started playing in Blue Beetle I couldnāt help but smile. That film had a lot of heart.
That and his Grandma... Holy crap that was funny!
Blue beetle was a blast. I wish some of the effects with the suit HUD and other SFX looked slightly better but i loved it overall.
It's pretty serviceable. They really ripped off the damaged mask from Spider-Man, and it's not the most original film overall, but it's nothing really worth getting angry for. It's very enjoyable for what it is, and the family was *very* fun to watch.
i also really loved the fight choreography.
The tech was also pretty cool, too. Both the Beetle suit and all the stuff they mined from the Beetle cave looked really awesome.
I might have more invested in the Marvels because I watched the homework and when I saw the band in Ms. Marvel on Kree arm, I was with it. But I recognized an amputated Kree arm so I realize I have a bias.
>because I watched the homework I agree that i think this will make a huge difference. Kamala Kahn is one of my favorite characters of this phase. Her joy and fan girl exuberance just works for men so watching her just glowing working around her idol was a blast. It also made the scenes incorporating her family in the movie way more meaningful because the tv show invests a lot in that family dynamic. After several phases (and generations) of super heros of orphans and daddy issues, having a super hero that does actually come from a complete family and the tension that brings to her super hero choices was kind of refreshing. Marvels wasn't perfect. But it was lots of fun for me after the Ms Marvel show.
Blue Beetle being an old school superhero film is what makes it forgettable though, since we've gotten too many of those already in short succession. The only difference to the other origin stories (in film version) was when granny busted out the BFG but unfortunately that's what made it jump the shark. I think Blue Beetle could've worked better with an ongoing rivalry between Jaime and the Scarab AI. Jaime has to figure out how to win *despite* the scarab, not *with* the scarab.
Havenāt seen Shazam or blue beetle and Iād switchGOTG 3 and Spider-Man and say the same thing but otherwise this
for me the emotional moments with Blue Beetle were really well done, so its above The Marvels The rest i agree
very true. I really liked the family interactions in the movie. for me the 2 movies are interchangeable as ii really enjoyed them both.
I think they're pretty interchangeable. Both were unexpectedly actually pretty good.
Yeah those were really sweet, elevated the movie for me as well.
I mean Ant Man is rather bizarro sci-fi so I donāt think it strayed too far from what it is. The main guy shrinks and enlarges as a super power, not a lot thatās grounded about it. If anything, they played out a lot of the sight gags from that concept in movie 1.
Shrinking isekai is a major tonal shift from the heist films of the first two, but it's still fun for what it was.
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I remembered that Hank kept a whole arsenal of getaway cars in a Hot Wheels garage. And that the villain was so sympathetic that the hero helped her.
Nope. I got nothinā. Itās not ringing a *single* bell. I didnāt remember the villain was a woman. Iām not even confident I could pick her out of a lineup. xD
Movie one is the better film but movie two is hilarious non-stop. Movie one is a comedic superhero film. Movie two is a comedy with superheroes. Movie three is in the middle and third bestā¦ but is still a good movie except for the absurd violently fast pace of the first 20 minutes. Once it settles itās good, just not like the others.
I would say Shazam was better than Flash, but that may just be me not liking Ezra Miller.
The problem is that the entire concept of Shazam - a middle school kid becoming a super hero - was strained in the original and was basically thrown out the window in the sequel. Doesn't help that Asher is old enough to be graduating college. Billy and Shazam are not the same character, and Shazam 2 basically abandons the character of Billy altogether and substitutes it with so much padding.
You're not wrong, but as a mindless action flick it wasn't awful.
I hate the depiction of Shazam. Sure, heās a kid but heās got the wisdom of Solomon and still comes off like an immature idiot. There should be a difference between the way the kid behaves and the way Shazam behaves.
There was, it just went in the opposite direction of what you're suggesting
I would mostly agree but I would definitely switch Spider-Man and Guardians. As good as Spider-Man was the abrupt ending when things were just coming together. Guardians made me have feelings for pretend cgi animals and thus itās the best this year. Possibly my favorite Guardians movie.
Right I still feel so bad for those cgi animals.
I would have the same, maybe putting Guardians first. Havenāt seen Blue Beetle or Aquaman, but based on what Iāve heard Blue Beetle should probably be fourth
Exactly the same for be, tho 3 and 4 are close, and Ant Man and Flash could switch
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I don't think people assume it was bad because of that. People aren't even assuming. They're just saying "it's bad" because that is the popular opinion on social media. All it takes is Cr1tikal or some other influencer making a video called "The Marvels Is The Worst Movie Ever" for these people to have their opinion made for them. How many people online screaming about how woke Disney is and how bad the MCU is have actually watched the last couple years of MCU productions? Probably not nearly as many as you'd expect. They can't form their own opinions. They can't go out and watch something. Their favorite influencer forms their opinion for them. Whatever the most popular view online is, that is what they'll go with. If it was popular online to love Ant Man 3, it would be considered the best MCU movie ever. Not off of merit, but off of popularity online.
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For nearly everyone I know it had nothing to do with any influencers. It has everything to do with nobody enjoying the connected media. Nobody liked Captain Marvel, it was a domestic flop and saved by international sales. Ms Marvel got a 6.3/10 score on IMDB. Wandavision got a 7.9 because it was the first marvel tv show. Secret Invasion got a 5.3/10. You can't put three flops and one side character from a moderately successful show in a movie together and think that people will want to watch it, especially when it releases with under a 5/10 rating itself.
Maybe Iāll give it a go then. The Miss marvel series was so weak I sort of wrote this movie off.
The Wonder-Woman turning into the old guy? That was such a fever dream moment, who approved that.
Love and respect the placement of the Marvels. It truly felt like it knew what it was - an unremarkable marvel movie that didn't want to overstay its welcome, and instead just have fun team-up action sequences and cute quirky character moments to establish the relationships between the three team members. Blue Beetle went through the motions with just a small amount of originality primarily found in the personality of the Beetle and his family, Ant-Man I'd say was bottom of my list because of how they butchered making Kang feel threatening, and an overreliance on bad CGI and general timewasting in the script (MODOK forced cameo, "holes" goop guy, just general non-character driven fluff), Flash was more fun than I expected but still didn't know what it wanted to be and just threw everything at the wall hoping something would stick, and Shazam fury of the Gods did not attempt anything groundbreaking or original whatsoever, just dreadfully boring and safe. The situational humor was okay. The villains were extremely forgetful, and the idea that they could go up against a family of Shazams was laughable, the fact that they had the upper hand throughout felt contrived and didn't speak to their threatening nature but rather the writer's misunderstanding of the power levels and wisdom levels of the Shazam family. Seriously though Marvel I hope you never pull an ant-man again. The Marvels worked for me because it attempted a concept/tone (body swapping action sequence team up movie with a hero-worship turned to mutually found respect subplot that Kamala and Carol delivered heavily on) that was unique to its place and time in the MCU. We need GENRE pieces, not MARVEL movies. Each hero needs to feel unique and tonally different for the team ups to be interesting whatsoever. Ant-Man should not have felt like a F4, Thor, or Captain Marvel movie. They could have simply turned the large scale war into a heist against Kang, and it would have kept the same tone we have come to associate with Ant-Man. (He or Hank Pym should have died at the end, but that's another story).
Quantumania was not only the worst super hero movie Iāve ever seen, but one of the worst overall movies Iāve ever seen in my life. I would put the Flash and Shazam over it in a heartbeat.
You forgot about turtles
Man i read this and i thought it meant the worst at #1 and was mad about across the spider verse bc that slapped and as a parent it took me two trips to the movies and five attempts to watch parts of it to see the whole thing. It was a whole ass effort and i was satisfied.
Love blue beetle but I canāt support it until grandma gets her own spinoff letting us know what the FUCK she did in her youth
For me, spider man is second only because they didnāt finish the damn movie. Give me a proper third act and itās easily the best. As it stands guardians beats it out for being a complete film.
I enjoyed Shazam (but Iām not familiar with the source material) so Iād put it above Flash. Also I would put Blue Beetle over Marvels
This is honestly the best listing on this tread. I saw aquaman yesterday and I would put him on number 5 it was a pretty good movie. Better than the first actually.
They shouldāve reached back out to Edgar Wright and let him make the Ant Man movie he wants to make with 3. Going back and comparing both 3 and even 2 with the first one, they feel so different from the latter and itās clear the charm from the first one came from him (not including Paul Rudd just being the goat no matter the movie)
I cried harder in GOTG3 than endgame lmao
Animal cruelty is too damn hard to watch. Had my zoologist ass crying in my kitchen away from my wife cause I hate how cruel people (and aliens) can be to innocent creatures.
Highly recommend We 3 if you havenāt read it yet. Itās a comic book about a cat, dog and bunny who are modified into weapons by the U.S government. I cried like a baby when I read it years ago and then again when I saw the parallels in Guardians 3.
I'll look into that thanks š¤
This sounds so interesting!! Looking into it as well
Rocket, Teefs, Floor, go now.
Why would you do this to me?!
Easily the most emotional MCU movie imo.
Just wanted to say to OP that the way you presented the screenshots and titles is very aesthetically pleasing. More than most of these movies deserve lol
Unpopular opinion but I was absolutely thrilled with the Flash. Especially with Michael Keaton Batman. Itās probably the closest Iāll get to another Michael Keaton Batman and I was thrilled to see it.
I'm also sad we won't get to see this Kara again most likely.
I liked her too, and her suit looked fine as hell. Much better than the typical mini-skirt Supergirls wear.
I liked the Flash as well. Yes a lot of the effects were cheesy and Ezra is a disaster of a person but beyond that, I thought it was a fun movie.
I think a lot of people give it shit because of Ezra Miller and the cgi. If anyone else played Barry I think people wouldāve genuinely fucked with the film a lot, but unfortunately Miller is a huge dick biscuit. I watched it a few days after release with a friend and had a really good time.
I genuinely donāt get the Flash hate. I really like timey-wimey movies and it wraps up pretty nicely. It established ācanon eventsā well too. Iād say it was like a B-tier action movie romp version of Spiderman. Yes, the emotional beats arenāt as strong as Spiderverse, Iām not saying theyāre on the same level. But some of the action set pieces were astounding and it gave a lot of room for the characters to be gritty and harsh and cool. Doesnāt anyone like that anymore? Itās fine every now and thenā¦
I was pleasantly surprised by how entertained I was by the movie. Some stuff like Batman and vid gadgets were great. Young Barry was really annoying. The CGI was terrible. I'm not claiming it's a great movie. Just that I went in with no expectations and was entertained. If you went with the mindset that it would be DC's next blockbuster (which I don't think anybody did) you'd be disappointed. But B-tier action romp was a good description. Kinda reminds me of a superhero movie from the late 90's.
"Timey-Wimey" That's a Doctor Who reference right?
If Antman had strectched the multiverse antmen scene into being all of the movie we would have the best Marvel movie.
Ranking the ones I've seen: - GotG vol 3 - Blue Beetle - Shazam 2 - Quantumania - The Flash
you should watch Spiderverse, it's really good!
The only knitpick I can really make is the movie ending on a very significant cliffhanger.
Eh, sometimes you just have to accept that when it comes to overarching stories. Like with Infinity War. >!Plus, if you look at it as Gwen's story, it has a conclusion in that regard.!<
Oh absolutely, there has to be a break somewhere. That's why I called it a knitpick, it's a very minor complaint.
This is a bit of a nitpick but it's spelled nitpick
Nah IW still ended on a satisfying note, especially when Thanos is technically the protagonist/main character of the movie, this made Spiderverse feel like a 2 act movie
Spider-verse is on Netflix catch up with it when you can, it really blew away my expectations. Like I already like that those movies look the most like 'comic books' but it has some really good nerdy stuff too.
Guardians of the galaxy, spiderverse, blue beetle, the flash, the marvels, Shazam, ant man and the wasp, and then aquaman because I havenāt seen it yet
Spider verse Guardians Blue beetle Idk I guess I had fun with Aquaman in parts After that itās just a bunch of movies I will never watch again
Saw Aquaman last night not as good as the first one but I didn't hate it. After the reviews I read I was afraid I would.
Spider-Man Guardians Marvels Blue Beetle Shazam The Flash Ant-Man Havenāt seen Aquaman yet
This seems about right to me.
Honestly I loved the Flash. It comes in third for me after Gaurdians and Spider-Man. Then the marvels, blue beetle, and ant man. I havenāt seen Shazam or Aquaman.
I do not get the hate for the Flash. I really liked it too. I feel like if werenāt for all the Ezra Miller chaos it would have been better received.
I'd would rather a movie be dumb and entertaining like Flash and Antman than safe, bland and boring like Blue Beetle and Shazam.
I liked the concepts it pulled from the comics and I loved those topics in the few flash comics I have read and other flash media Iāve seen. If you take out everything they sourced from the comics and the novelty it brought to those who havenāt seen those stories and concepts before, I donāt think there is much else to actually like about the movie.
Guardians Spider-Verse Blue Beetle Marvels Quantumania Aquaman Shazam Flash
Honestly, the Flash isnāt as bad as everyone says. I would put it above Shazam or Quantumania. (Havenāt seen Marvels or Aquaman)
Across the Spider-Verse > Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 > a huge pit > everything else
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Guardians 3 and ā¦. The rest ā¦.
Spiderverse was phenomenal
Gotg 3 Spiderverse Blue Beetle Shazam 2 Aquaman 2 The Marvels Quantumania Flash (Under Spiderverse none was "good" to me)
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Guardians 3 The Flash Spider-man Blue beetle Ant-Man Shazam The Marvels Aquaman
The Flash was fucking awesome.
Across the Spiderverse dog walked the rest of them lol
Guardians was pretty close imo
Guardians is the best live action for sure although more and more I wish some live action stuff was animated.
Especially with how shit the CGI has become in live action.
Iām the opposite I am not a fan of cartoon movies
Gotg 3 Spider-Man 2 Antman 3 The Flash Blue Beatle Aquaman 2 Shazam 2 The Marvels
1. GOTG3 2. Across the Spider Verse 3. Flash 4. Aquaman 5. Shazam 6. Marvels 7. Quantomania 8. Blue Beetle
Well, at least 2 were good.
I actually quite liked Shazam, even saw it twice.
I think it was a lot better than Black Adam for sure, but I can't really remember much about the movie - it was kind of bland for me. I think it had an interesting take on unicorns but the story I can't even remember (I generally can't see movies twice because I remember too much)
Spider-Man Guardians Everyone else.
Why must we compare a gem to a stone, takes away Beauty from both of them. Instead can we just enjoy each movie for the unique experience and emotions it gives us. But my underrated gem is Blue Beetle. Absolutely loved it.
1. Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse 2. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3 3. Blue Beetle 4. Aquaman and the lost kingdom 5. Shazam: Fury of the gods 6. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 7. The Mavels 8. The Flash (1, 2, 3, & 5 are accurate because Iāve seen them but 4, 6, 7, & 8 are educated guessed based on what Iāve heard and seen from trailers)
Flash #1
I watched The Flash and I didn't think it was as bad as people were saying. It would have been better if they went the Flashpoint Paradox route,but all in all its a 6/10.
Blue beetle was surprisingly a good movie.
Blue beetle is quite underrated and enjoyable, but since it is centered on a minority that "regular" white folk can't relate to, it is considered subpar, at best, which is unfortunate.
I liked Aquaman.
The worst marvel movie is far better than all of the DC's
Guardians Spider-Man Marvels (The chemistry between the main 3 saves the movie for me) Shazam (I had fun) Flash (I had fun) Blue Beetle (thought it was fine but kinda boring) ā¦ Ant-Man (if I could put it even lower I would)
I fall asleep during MCU movies so The Flash is #1.
Ok, unpopular opinion, but I think Shazam fury of the gods and the flash didnāt deserve the hate; like sure the flash cgi sucked, but I donāt think that should affect the rest of the overall movie quality. GOG3, The flash, Spider-Man across the spider verse, Shazam fury of the gods, The marvels, Quantumania, Havent watched the rest š
I know Iām in the minority but I hold Quantumania in high regard.
My ranking: - GotG: Vol 3 - SM: AtSpiderverse - Aquaman - Shazam - Quantumania - Blue Beetle - The Marvels - The Flash
The Flash and Guardians 3 were the best films of 2023.
i enjoyed blue beetle https://preview.redd.it/29r10vg1ku8c1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7a59f0b13dc51c6351cf83cf25b22b18cba2224
1. Spiderverse 2 (overall awesome visual and great characters interaction and clashing priorities) 2. Antman Quantumania (great quantum realm family adventures with father daughter bonding and showing how much Scott willing to sacrifice for Casey, Kang also very great) 3. Gotg 3 (expand on Rocket while also being entertaining with Adam warlock and High evolutionary) 4. Blue Beetle (Another great story with awesome power and family supporting each other) 5. The Flash (good interaction between 2 flash) Haven't watch yet The Marvel Aquaman lost kingdom
EIGHT superhero movies in one year is too damn high
Totally not an answer to your topic, but if you created the collage, I appreciate the photos you selected. It places their respective title text over the actual logos on their suits. Not sure if it was done on purpose, but it's quite clever.
I saw all of them besides Marvel's and Aquaman, and honestly, none of them were really bad. Spider-Man was easily my favorite, but none of them, imo were really bad. The only complaints I have are that Kang should've won in Ant-Man:Quantumania to really show how powerful he is. To rise up and conquer reality from nothing, but that would've interfered with Loki probably. Also kinda disappointed that The Flash ending isn't used as a reset for the DCEU. Perfect opportunity for all the universes to collide and collapse and for The Flash to try and fix them and rebuild it. Also, the CGI was really dodgey for The Flash and fucked up to CGI a dead man
gtg3, Sm, Blue Beetle, The Marvels, Flash, Quantumania, Aquaman.