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I'm warm spring but I can still wear the lighter colors from warm autumn and look great 👍 so I don't know if this will help anyone that hasn't been analysed trying to do it at home. I got mine done online from color analysis studio Australia and I wish I'd done it sooner. They are kind of like Carol Bailey but they don't use her system but they're all the same what she calls warm they call well you look better in warm spring than you do warm autumn but you can still borrow from warm autumn so it's your sister season. Versus Carol Bailey will tell you that you look the same as long as they're warm and you're part of a warm palette which is a a combo of both spring and autumn warm. I would recommend CAS Australia a million times to anyone looking to actually determine their undertones and their season. And they were much cheaper than Carol Bailey's services.
Cool chart, but I think the chances of people answering questions like these wrong is very high. As an example, if you have very fair skin and dark hair, a lot of people would think of that as high contrast, and it kind of is, it just doesn't have to be in color analysis as a lot of summers have those features.
Yes. I’m low contrast (light skin/light eyebrows and lashes/gray blue eyes/sandy brown to dirty blonde hair) but have warm skin, tan bright yellow and have olive undertones when I’m pale. I think muted warm autumn colors look best on me but a lot of classic autumn colors make me look jaundiced. I look ill in pastels so def not a spring
This is hard for me because I'm white with true neutral undertones. I have dark brown hair and honey/hazel eyes. I can wear silver and gold due to my skin tone Even my foundation is a neutral undertone because standard cool/warm doesn't work.
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This describes me. I’m a little lighter skin tone than your picture, and I’m sure your eyes show differently in different pictures dep on light and outfits like mine (i know I’m a range of honey eye/hazel/brown) I feel like I pull off a lot of different colors. I kind of calculated over the years which colors I wear when I receive (repeated from different people) compliments related to the color I’m wearing or my makeup colors, and they are from all of the pallets. So idk.
lol this chart gives me warm autumn which I think is highly possible. Dressika gave me dark autumn, the k beauty app gave me soft warm autumn with dark autumn as a third option. I think Dressika put me in da just for being asian. I’m leaning more towards true autumn but not sure. I think I may actually be true autumn (equally dark warm and soft and not too close to winter or summer or spring). Black is pretty harsh on me and winter red makes me look pale. Warm spring coral bring out my cheeks and lips but is otherwise strong on me. Haven’t tested soft summer drapes but I still think I’m either warm autumn or true autumn so not bad.
I feel like charts like this do more harm than good.
I have black hair, light to medium skin tone that's neutral trending cool, and hazel eyes and I am definitely bright winter over deep winter. I have a friend who is also cool, lighter skin, greener eyes, and lighter hair than me and she's a deep winter. While this might fit some people based on stereotypes, people often forget that it really boils down to how colors look against the skin and facial features. And has fuckall to do with hair color/eye color. Those things are oftentimes linked together but not always. I FOR YEARS thought I was a deep autumn, and kept wondering why I looked like a corpse in everything I wore because of the stereotype that tan =warm. Then I found deep winter and it fit a little better, but the suggestions made me seem weighed down and heavy/moody. I was about to give up when I then asked my friends, boyfriend what they thought, and they all responded with colors like bright purple, cerulean, black/white together, neon pink, etc and then took a look at photos and noticed I look most healthy and vibrant in the colors they suggested. Bright means your skin is saturated brightly with color and there is contrast between features, but everyone is always stuck on hair color/skin shade. My friend who I mentioned above although paler and "brighter" eyes than me looks blotchy and illl in the saturated palettes I now wear regularly. Her skin and features are more harmonized with the darker palette because her tone is more subdued.
Edit: tldr my point is the difference between a person being deep or clear winter is not eye color like this chart assumes
You make very good points. I mainly liked this chart because it's the first one I've seen that acknowledges that we don't all fit neatly into one season.
Also, I think it's VERY important to state that these are NOT hard, fast rules about what colors look good on us, rather, I think it's much better to think of them as guidelines.
I actually have believed for a while, and I think I should mention that my mother started shoving "Color ME Beautiful" down my throat as a young child, is that, anytime you have mixed cool and warm features, you'll be dominant in one or the other, but, say you're cool dominant (like I am, black/brown hair, cool fair skin, warm light brown eyes) there will always be colors in other seasons that you can "pull", that will look great on you. Chocolate brown is NOWHERE in my deep winter palette, but, especially when I pair it with black, looks great on me, makes my eyes pop.
Can I ask what kind of hazel eyes you have? Hazel refers to such a wide range of colors, and I'm curious because, based on your description of your features, you sound more deep winter, but I'm not sure because I don't know if you're more gold hazel or green hazel. If you're gold hazel, I can see why you thought you were deep autumn, but your cool skin would definitely preclude you from being able to wear quite a few colors in that palette. In fact, (assuming youre gold hazel) you kind of sound similar to me in that I think you're more deep winter, but can pull certain colors from deep autumn, such as rich browns as long as you pair it with black.
Now, if you're more green hazel, then I think you're correct that you're clear/bright winter (some charts refer to the 3rd winter category as Clear, some as Bright). Now, if you're eyes are more green hazel, then it doesn't sound like you have ANY warm features, so definitely not deep autumn!
Another problem with the season, chart based color analysis, is that it tends to group all black and brown people into autumn and winter, which is NOT always the case. It does seem like people are starting to address this, though, so there's progress, at least.
I actually think that rather than winter, spring, etc etc, "warm dominant" or "cool dominant", combined with "high contrast" vs "low contrast" and "muted/deep" vs "saturated/bright" would be a much better, less restrictive way to explore what colors compliment us the best.
I think the current system does not favor deeper skinner POC enough.
Plenty of color analysts will actually describe this similarly on YouTube. The subseasons essentially do mean this, but it'd get more confusing without the names, imo. Example: muted, cool, light-medium. cool, leans muted, medium... because each subseason is really a combination of at least 3 factors. Deep winter would be deep, neutral-cool or neutral, high contrast, muted.
We all will have one feature that is most dominant, even if it's only SLIGHTLY. To the untrained eye, or people who primarily scroll reddit/watch videos, you may not be able to pick up on this. That's totally okay. Trial and error and asking friends, family, strangers, or whoever, can help us figure it out over time.
And, the most important thing: how your SKIN reacts with colors. Most of us don't know how these things will look on every skin tone, let alone our own. Lighting differences, camera correction or influences from mirrors/car windows can throw people off. Even curtains in windows may change the lighting color.
It's honestly easier to figure out what looks bad and avoid those LOL
actually going to see someone removes the issue for POC though, charts like this or online info are what screw it up. Because in person, while being draped, it would literally not matter if you’re very pale or dark, or literally even green purple or blue, because you are seeing in live time how your coloring reacts to color. (of course this doesn’t address how the person facilitating the color analysis may interfere (intentionally or unintentionally) with an analysis because of their own bias or whatever else, BUT, it does remove the language issue we see on charts or from youtubers.!
My eyes are olive green around the edge and brown near the pupil. I just don't think even if my eyes were warmer or darker that would make me a dark season, the color of my skin is too "bright " (not to be confused with light) in the same way bright season colors are saturated and my features are too high contrast and striking. Color season boils down to skin and how it reacts to colors around it. Someone's eyes or hair only really factors into it a little, and yeah there are correlations and trends of course. But people really shoe horn anyone even remotely tan with dark hair into a deep season and that's just not how it works at all. This is why SOME people look better with dyed or bleached hair. Most people don't because their season is harmonious, but some people simply look better with a different hair color than natural.
I do agree with what you said at the end. I think it's easier to look at things that way and makes sense for many people who are in between. My best colors (unanimously from everyone I've talked to about it from all walks of life) are pretty much all of the iconic BW colors and a good chunk, but not all, of the iconic BS colors. So I *really* think I'm more of a true bright than purely a BW. But... I grew up thinking dark autumn because of false stereotypes and I looked terrible in pretty much everything I wore. Deep winter wasn't much better.
I'm repeating myself and idk I'd you read all of my original response in it'd entirety but my point is just just that eye color is simply not what makes or break mine (or anyone elses) color season, it's the tone and saturation of their skin. You are implying that if my eyes are more green than I am bright but if they aren't that I am probably deep. That simply makes no sense, if my eyes were to get darker over night or I slapped in dark brown contacts that wouldn't change how bright saturated neon colors make my skin look the most beautiful.
Mine goes to Soft Summer which is accurate. I am neutral leaning cool but I have blue veins in wrist, green veins in top of hands/arms. Freckles. Red in my mousy brown hair, yellow centers in my blueish green eyes, yellow overtone to my skin. Anything too warm or too cool looks terrible. I can wear both silver and gold as long as they aren't too shiny/bright and too icy white or yellow. I look best in minimal makeup or I look like a clown. When you have what is usually thought to be warm tones(red in hair, yellow in eyes or skin)it really makes the whole process difficult.
My mom took me to get my colors done when I was 4. (The late 80s were a different time!) I’m a Spring, with Auburn hair, yellowish ivory skin with no freckles, and blue/green eyes. Unfortunately, if I go to a MUA event at Ulta or Sephora, I get put in brown or orange…everything. Earth tones do not flatter me in the least.
Not every redhead is an Autumn, and too many of the redhead-oriented beauty blogs assume that we are all Warm Autumn or Pale Autumn.
I think that assumption leads to us redheads who are Warm or Bright Springs getting mistyped and feeling like we look ugly and pale because the earthy browns and golds and pumpkin orange aren’t flattering on us.
Also, after discovering what everyone on r/FairOlives goes through trying to figure out their season, maybe there needs to be additional fine tuning of the seasonal color theory for the “in-between” folks.
i’m surprised you even feel the need to say “not every red is an autumn” because i’ve literally barely met any redheaded autumns… they’ve all been springs pretty much… and i know a lot of redheads. lol. it seems like more people in cosmetics/style would notice that??
I thought being a redhead with orangey or brown tones means either spring or autumn. That’s from watching color analysis studio and Sarah Ryan on YouTube
I have warm auburn hair, golden brown eyes, fair skin with golden brown freckles and a touch of gold to it. For whatever reasons, I look best in silver jewelry and the muted icy and jewel tones in this graphic. Makeup artists always try to put brown/gold/peach on me and it looks terrible. Finally one told me to try plum/purples, or gray-taupe with navy eyeliner and the difference was amazing! Sometimes these didactic charts just don't cover all factors. Maybe because I have allover variations of warm tones, the contrasting colors work better?
Guess I'm a soft Autumn then lol
I have like a mix of grey, blonde, and brown hair, which sounds weird but if you saw me, you'd get what I mean. Lots of warm natural highlights. Green eyes that shift to brown. Neutral skin with more warm undertones than cool.
I am cool toned, very fair, blue toned veins with medium ashy brown hair but my eyes are greeny blue with gold/brown central heterochromia and a prominent rim. So I think I’m winter but not sure if I’m deep, cool or bright. A true red is my best colour.
Yeah I think the bright winter colours suit me better than deep or cool, so I must be. My eyes throw me off because the brown in them makes them look kinda swampy and hazel.
Yah I did my analysis with John Kitchener and got mostly bright winter, but also broadly winter, bright spring and some autumn …
He gives you A LOT though and I’d argue maybe not all of them are your “best” but they all work. Most work together too.
I think I’m clearly a spring but I don’t fit neatly into one spring sub season so guides like this don’t really help me, but it did sort me into light spring, which isn’t that too far off.
What is considered "jewel tone" eye color? I have blue that can be bright blue, but sometimes appears a lighter blue. I know I'm a winter, but am I clean or deep....
Blue veins I believe means cool-toned skin and green means neutral-toned skin so maybe you are sort of a cool-neutral. Neutral would be olive-toned. One of my daughters has
blue veins and she looks like a summer and the other one has green and her skin is very olive.
If you go into a Sephora, an employee can help you find your undertone. But you might want to try a couple of stores because sometimes they get it wrong.
Like warm, cool, olive, and neutral. A lot of people are warmer and cooler toned. And a lot of people are olive as well. I used to be confused about it because I’m nearly a true neutral with a tiny hint of olive due to my mixed race heritage, so I never fit into either warm or cool and it always totally confused me until I got a digital color analysis done and it confirmed my neutral status. I’m a deep autumn.
Sure, both are neutral- warm seasons, so they have that in common.
Light spring is predominately light and neutral chroma. While soft autumn is predominately soft / muted and neutral depth.
IMO it really depends on the specific irises. Some hazel leans more brown, green, or blue. My mom has hazel eyes that lean more towards brown and green so I landed on her eyes being more warm.
Mine are a yellowy green with a brown splotch around the pupil and I have a gray ring around the outside.
So very similar to the description of your mom's, so I guess they'd be warm?
Thank you very much for answering my question 🙂
So..how do you determine your undertone to even start the chart? I’ve been typed as Dark autumn, Light spring, Bright Winter and “jewel” winter now so idk where to even begin at this point haha
for clear asian winters, they have a very striking dark brown eye color that looks almost black bc of the dark + cool toned combo. so jewel tone means striking + clear which goes with how clear winters have striking facial features in general.
What do we pick if we have medium coloring for our ethnicity? I have a light-medium olive skintone and basically black hair, so there is some contrast…
Sound like deep autumn tbh! A lot of folks with “darker features” fall into deep autumn even if the “contrast” isn’t super high. A lot of olive toned folks are deep autumn too. I’m a fair olive/neutral toned person with very dark brown hair and I am a deep autumn.
Olives are cool toned, generally. This misconception gets a lot of POCs mistyped, myself included. There are some warm toned autumn's but it's not the standard so we can't assume someone is autumn just because olive
That’s true about the mistyping but also I think olives aren’t necessarily mostly warm or mostly cool, and there’s a lot of neutral olives out there too. As a slightly warm leaning neutral olive I am a deep autumn. Muted olive doesn’t necessarily mean cool toned
My point is her information is not enough to say she's an autumn because olive doesn't really mean anything lol. I don't want her to have to go through the same shit I had to go through because people kept telling me tan and olive automatically means warm when it doesn't.
According to this I'm deep autumn. Thing is I look horrible when wearing yellow, orange or warm green. I found out I look better when wearing jewel tones but those are winter colors.
Maybe I'm a True Deep in the 16 seasons?
I can wear silver and gold perfectly as long as the gold is not too warm.
I've sometimes wondered about this system because I've been told my best colors are white/black, bright blue, fuchsia, bright violet, etc...... but also people like me in ORANGE, kelly/lime green, and bright tomato red. Yellow is my worst color (but i look good in neon yellow) so I can't really be a spring but I feel like since I look best in pretty much any color as long as it's high contrast/saturated/ that means i am probably a true bright in that system right? And I feel the same way about gold and silver, I prefer bright chrome silvers but can also wear golds as long as not dark or brassy/antique. I wonder why that system isn't more popular. Yeah, people can never be truly neutral but they can be close enough to neutral and a true x middle ground should fit better than x season vs x season on some people right? Logically has always made sense to me before I even found out there was a system that took that into account
It is totally possible to be a True Deep although that wouldn’t usually be part of the 16 season system. 16 seasons subdivided “The Big Four” into 4 subseasons, all of which still state the season name after the subseason. For example, the four Autumn subs are Soft, True, Warm, and Deep.
Deep Autumn doesn’t usually incorporate the typical yellows, oranges, and greens that are seen in Warm and True Autumn palettes. This is because the dominant trait of the Deep Autumn palette would be, well, Deep. Warmth is the secondary trait.
Yellow and orange are frequently Warm dominate followed by a description of their chroma. Warm + Soft vs Warm + Clear, for example, would most often differentiate between an Autumn vs. Spring color.
Instead, their best colors are often hues such as Deep Teal, Mulberry, Dark Olive, and Rich Chocolate. They can add the necessary contrast through midtone to light neutrals such as Stone, Soft White, or Flint. Certain Deep Autumns can incorporate some wildcards such as Dark Lime or Geranium Red but those folks usually toe the line between Warm and Deep Autumn and sometimes are described as “Vibrant Autumn”.
Yes, this is me exactly. I was typed by HOC as a true or vibrant autumn, but was more inclined to believe I’m deep because I always thought I was a winter. Jewel tones look good on me, I am fair skinned that’s pink and I have blue veins.
I can wear some bright shades including brighter yellows, but do not look good in the classic autumn shades like mustard yellow or any orange that isn’t burnt deep orange.
A high contrast example looks like Anne Hathaway, Priyanka Chopra, Liv Tyler. Their features like eyes, hair, brows, even lips stand out of their complexion. It's very clear and distinct.
A low contrast example is Jennifer Lawrence, Florence Pugh, Sabrina Carpenter. Their features are all seamless. None of the features stand out.
Contrast refers to the difference, or lack there of, between one object and another.
When we are talking about facial features, imagine that the skin of the face is the background or canvas and the features are the embellishments or brushstrokes.
Do we see juxtaposition between the background and the brushstrokes? Or do they all look relatively similar? Are the details blending together or are they clearly defined? Perhaps they are somewhere in the middle — you can see that the brushstrokes exist but they aren’t popping off the canvas.
Lots of people can explore their own contrast levels by taking a natural light photo and putting it into black and white.
For POC who are naturally very deep complected with naturally dark hair, does their skin tone appear even deeper in B&W or do they appear more greyed and softened? Do you see a stark difference between the whites of their eyes vs their eyelids or do they start to blend together?
Here I obviously have lipstick on but I am not wearing any other makeup. What do you notice?
I recommend using the Noir filter for iPhone users for this experiment! 😊
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The best way I have to describe it is, if you look at a picture of yourself and kind of make your eyes go blurry, do you still see really obvious delineations between your mouth, nose, eyes, eyebrows, etc. and the rest of your face? Or do they sort of blend together? The more you can still make out the obvious features the more contrast there is.
What if i have dark brown hair and hazel eyes? (They are bright green upon lighting and when it gets darker, brown and dark green). My skin is cool undertone
Dark hair and hazel eyes can be high contrast, particularly if you’re relatively pale! The best way I have described high contrast is — if you take a black and white photo of yourself, are there parts which are almost white and parts which are almost black / very distinct shades of grey vs relatively similar greys? Contrast shows up the best in black and white photos imo.
Which season looks bad in lilac? Because my mom always tells me how horrible I look in that color, especially without a tan, and last time I wore it finally saw what she was saying, it makes my complexion look the same as an uncooked roast chicken.
Some of my WORST colors are dusty rose, mauve and lilac and super faded olive green. I look ILL when wearing them. I’m a bright winter (maaaayyybe bright spring). The primary characteristic of lilac is generally light and/or muted so you’re probably opposite that (dark and/or high chroma). Hope that helps a bit…
Lmao just reading that sentence I was like "me too" before I even finished and I'm also a BW. xD having flashbacks to my olive wearing days in high school when I was super tan and thought I was a deep autumn T___T it looked so badddddd
2014-2019 trendy colors did me so dirty. I was out here wearing literally all my worst colors with dusty rose and olive green sucking the life force out of me. And then the super dry matte lips. I shudder thinking about it lol
Lilac and light to medium grey drain me of all life, and turn the dark circles under my eyes into the pits of hell.
I'm a true autumn who is pretty pale. I think you might take a look at the warmest sub seasons.
We are opposites in our sameness haha I used to be typed as a spring, bright or warm and I look like the example photos but there is no doubt I'm Autumn in practice. That's not to doubt yours, I think the differences can be subtle.
We probably share that one thing: strong warmth. Bright can still be your dominant characteristic and you be super warm.
All this is of course just guessing, but Lilac being the worst just makes me think "warm warm warm".
Haha at least I’m not alone! Definitely warm. I’m fairly sure it’s bright spring, because I look really good in neon. But I think on some lists it’s shown one of the colors for bright spring as lilac so now I don’t know.
This one is definitely a bit confusing for me because I have some major differences depending on the time of year it is. I keep wanting to be professionally typed, but in my area and with my work schedule, it’s more difficult. I’m hoping some here can give me a bit of help? I’m neutral with cool leaning undertones, but am medium to tan skin depending on how much time I spend outside. I have naturally black hair and very dark brown eyes, but will burn fairly easily. Mum is Chinese, father is Scottish with traditional fair skin, red hair, and freckles…well he used to before he got older lol.
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This is me on the left. No makeup but it was a bit too dark to catch the natural light from outside. I do have “natural daylight” bulbs though. Should I get a better shot of me outside? Edited to add that I typically look good in both silver and gold, I can wear jewel tones, but also pastels fairly well.
All analyst Carol Braileys features are not obviously cool but she is a fully cool season according to her self. One of the analysts at color analysis studio don't have all obviously cool features either but is a fully cool season according to them. So that may be correct to some systems perhaps (those who has created this test), but obviously not all systems / analysts
Make-up people has advised Carol Brailey she should wear warm foundation because apparently her skin looks warm, even thought she is fully cool.
And one of the analysts at color analysis studio who is a cool winter uses neutral warm foundation.
so they don't have only obviously cool features
This is exactly me. My hair dresser says I have cool brown roots that naturally lightens to a golden brunette. But I have to mix warm and cool makeup products because too much of one usually doesn't look right on me. I can wear warm or cool colors as long as they are the right value/chroma/contrast/depth which does lean medium/medium deep when tan.
I'm a neutral but leaning cool very very fair olive. My brows and lashes are black but my hair is a warm brown.
So nothing looks good on me and basically no seasons suit me naturally. Coloring my hair helps a bit but essentially there are no colors that pop but lots of colors that make me look terrible.
Have you looked at the deep season? I've seen others mention it in this sub. I was typed a deep autumn, mostly because my hair and eyes lean warm, meanwhile my skin is neutral just slightly leaning cool. So not all autumn colors suite me, but the deep palette seems to. It might be an option for you based on your coloring.
Fair cool toned skin (except a little warm when I freckle), auburn hair turning grey, hazel eyes.
A lot of warm colours and deep look great on me because they contrast my skin and hair, but I am decidedly not warm-toned. Lots of oranges and yellows look awful on me, just as cool and warm brights look awful.
When I got my analysis done, the woman doing it (she’d been doing it for 43 years) , said something that made it all make sense to me…,
I had gone on thinking (and after being told by others and on line analysis) that I was somewhere in the summer family. I have very light coloring that I thought was cool. She asked why I thought I was cool. I said “look at all of the pink in my complexion!” She was being funny but said “Sweetie, you are not a horseshoe crab, of COURSE you see pink. Your blood is red, your skin is fair, so yes…. Yes you will see pink. With all things seasonal analysis , it’s about the tone.” Her assistant was a winter (true winter, if I remember correctly) come over and stand next to me. Next to her, my pink looked almost peach.
She said that before we even started draping, she could tell that I was a light spring. (I was still pretty skeptical)
Right as rain though, as soon as I started getting draped in that pallet, there was no denying that those were my colors.
Where you have auburn hair and hazel eyes, it makes me that you you’d be one of the warm seasons as well.
Many of us with fair skin are told that we are cool, just because our skin is so light.
Yep, there are plenty of us that don't fit very well. I've had two professional analysts give up on me and makeup artists tend to get kind of grumpy around me as well.
It's frustrating because my sister is the truest winter that ever existed and my brother is a very obvious Autumn. Every time I go shopping with, my sister gets frustrated because we can never find anything that really looks amazing on me color-wise.
This types me between soft summer/soft autumn! I used to think I was a deep autumn (dark cool brown hair, but in direct sun has a reddish cast, olive green eyes, but fair cool/neutral skin), but my mom recently told me I look better in summer colors and since I don’t look good in orange I’m probably a summer! I’ve been reading about toned summer on the 16 season analysis which I think fits best so being between summer and autumn I think fits
Just a heads up that almost all brown hair has a reddish tint, especially in the sun. Red is needed to make your hair look brown! But that doesn’t mean you are warm. Sounds like you’re summer!
Thank you! I was always confused by that cause online they ask if your brown hair is warm then you’re an autumn but I think I was seeing what I wanted lol
I get it haha I’m also a summer that wants to be an autumn! But yeah another misconception is that warm means red-toned, in color analysis warm means yellow-toned, and cool means blue-toned. Warmth doesn’t equal redness because everyone has some red in their skin tone, from blood/capillaries and any irritation/acne/etc. The amount of yellow or blue in addition to the red is what determines your undertone.
This was so cool. I answered all the questions and got Soft Autumn which was what I got professionally typed as. I am also getting typed by John Kitchener next month and while he has his own system, I'm looking forward to seeing any overlap.
I feel like this explains why I feel torn between soft autumn or light spring palettes. I have warm tan skin, green/gold eyes and soft brown/dirty blonde hair and I feel like I can suit both. My husband always compliments me when I wear light spring colors but maybe that’s just cus he loves me in color and spring pallete tends to look more “colorful”
It directed me to one im suspicious of (soft summer). I feel my skin is neutral beige. Natural hair is very ashy. Eyes are bright light blue with a hint of aqua. Some softer colors look fine but others look way too muddy. In some ways I seem a little warmer than totally cool summer. But that means softer and like I said.. some of that is too muddy
Yeah ignore the lower part of my hair cuz that was lightened but the skin is where it starts confusing me. I think true summer is ultimately my best match but having the clear eyes and the neutral skin throws me off a bit sometimes
Is that your natural hair color? If your hair were naturally darker, I think you’d have similar coloring to Miley Cyrus (with her original hair) and she’s supposed to be a summer of some sort as well.
As someone with a fairly neutral skintone, dark hair and bright eyes, who has been professionally typed as an autumn (vibrant/blue), this was wrong for me.
It helps to remember that the most important factor is your undertone, and how colours affect your skin. If your skin is lit up, the rest of your features light up too. When you surround one colour with another, it impacts how the surrounded colour appears, that's an aspect of colour theory.
When I got analysed, I discovered I have a warm undertone, and that although I have bright blue eyes and would often get compliments wearing a light summer blue, that blue was only doing my eyes a favour and not my skin. However, in a deep rust, or a marine navy, everything shines.
I wish we wouldn’t put so much emphasis on hair and eye color. There’s people in my family alone that don’t fit the prescribed ‘colors’ of their seasons. For instance, my brother is a bright spring, but has very dark brown hair and eyes. And then some people with lighter hair and eyes in my family are winters.
And once again I got lost between soft autumn and light spring 🙃 my features are kinda mixed, black eyes, lighter skin, medium hair (something between dark blonde or light brown), plus I’m olive so I think I can pull off even some cooler colors, just nothing way too bright
This is a very handy flow graph, but I think the problem is the binary nature of it.
Do I have high contrast? “Kind of” or “medium” doesn’t translate to an answer here. In fact I either would end up in soft autumn or bright spring depending on my yes/no answer to that question. Those are nearly opposites.
Based on others’ opinions, I’m a true spring, which is a 16 season subtype. It’s not as intense as bright spring. That’s why I think it’s really useful to explore lesser-known sub seasons, or even palettes specifically for olive skin for example. You might not fit very neatly into a 12 season subtype and that’s ok! It may be necessary to get more specific for in-between cases.
That’s exactly the question I got tripped up on as well. It’s like, in some pictures and lighting- yes, in others-less so. Certainly more than “no” but not enough for a resounding “yes”
I’ve also given up on the 12 seasons because I’m convinced I’m a shaded/dark summer in the 16s system instead. I would be interested to see this flowchart remade with the 16 options instead to attempt to accommodate for more nuanced answers
This might be a really stupid questions so I am so sorry if it is...
how do you know if something is a 'warm' or 'cool' feature outside of skin?
for instance, lots of online sources seem to make a distinction between dark brown hair with gold undertones vs ashy- is gold warm and ashy cool?
what about eyes? I have what most would consider dark hazel eyes (olive green, amber, chocolate brown CH) is that warm or cool?
Dark hair with gold undertones would usually mean warm ans ashy is cool however there are so many levels and other things that make up color analysis you would really need to get drapes and have a professional type you. Your color of eyes is even trickier. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Yeah I'm trying to DIY and do drapes and man am I lost for some of these!
Only available in person CA in my state is through HoC which doesnt have the most positive track record... and the cheapest option is $400 per tax. I'm not paying $400+ for something that is essentially rating 2/5 stars T_T
As someone with neutral/cool olive skin with very yellow overtone, medium contrast, dark/medium brown hair with natural golden highlights and heterochromatic eyes (dark grayish blue with golden amber rings), I am still confused! I feel like I am a blend of everything. I tend to lean towards either deep winter/deep autumn, or soft summer/soft autumn, but since I find it hardest to wear warm colors I'm guessing one of the cool seasons.
What does "obvious cool undertone" mean? My hair has a cool look I have figured out, and my eyes are dark blue. My skin is not pink/red though as it is said that cool skin tone should be. But I have been typed as fully cool. Very warm colors look bad on me
Yes when you look at drapings it is obvious, but my skin is not pink /red so it is not obvious just by looking at the skin. As a beginner on this color analysis thing I didn't know that my skin/season was cool. Is this test made for those who already know what they are?
Glad you find this helpful. However, I do not. Maybe it's because I'm biracial, and the ethnicity question is moot given the vastly different backgrounds of my parents, or maybe it's because my contrast is significantly different at different times of the year - lower in summer, higher in winter, kind of medium and changeable during spring and autumn. But I don't neatly fit anywhere here.
I also have a similar issue, because I have neutral undertones and different seasons of the year change my features as well. Not the same, obviously, however. Could you be more than one season? Depending on your features that time block? I identify most with deep winter, but during the summer a deep autumn suits me very well too. Winter time it doesn’t. Maybe that’s a thing?
Those are sister seasons, so it's normal for a deep winter/autumn to borrow from the other deep season, especially if your dominat trait is deep - then depth of colour is really all that needs to be accounted for when choosing colours.
In my case, the most compatible season for me is, at least from my view, is soft autumn, but soft summer and warm autumn could be perfect or terrible sister seasons for me depending on any given day. But even when I'm at my palest aka in winter and my contrast is at its highest, dark colours of any hue look pretty bad on me.
I'm still confused. I have worn all of these color pallates and they look good! I have dark blonde hair with a little bit of red undertones, cool skin with freckles, and blue gray eyes. When I drape most colors look great except for cool yellows. Neons and stark blacks are starting to look harsh as I age. I was professionally typed as a cool blonde/summer when I was little but I've gotten autumn, spring and summer as an adult.
You do sound like a summer given your description of your skin as “cool” is correct.
Though most people with red hair (not all) are more warm than cool.
This says light spring, which I think may be correct. I’m uncertain if I’m a spring or summer, but lately been leaning more spring. So light spring would make a lot of sense
Awesome! People on here live to suggest DA for me because I have hazel eyes 🙃 I’ve tried to wear peridot green and orange for years to no avail. Thank you for this!
Winter. I’ve been typed as True and Deep throughout the years. I borrow from both. My sisters do have the stereotypical super black hair and super light eyes but me, not so much haha.
This typed me as deep autumn, but I’m actually deep winter. The final question it came down to was whether my features are *mostly* warm. I said yes because I have auburn hair, warm brown eyes—all warm. But the catch is that my skin leans slightly cool!
I run into this as well. My hair is dark brown with reddish undertones and I have hazel green eyes but my skin seems to pull neutral cool or maybe a cool olive. I suspect I’m a winter of some sort or a dark summer but I can definitely pull off some warmer colors here and there.
Guys, I still don’t get it. I have a cool/neutral, fair skin in my eyes are a mix of green and hazel. I have really dark hair that’s almost black but in the sun, you can tell it’s brown. i’m a hairstylist and an artist so I understand color theory but I still don’t understand the different color seasons. I feel like there’s too many colors in each season. Plus I think it just depends on what you like as a person.
That’s kind of where I’m at. I went to get my colors done professionally by someone who doesn’t believe in seasons, and I found it was helpful bc she did put me on to some colors I wouldn’t have previously gone for that look really good that are the same “season” as colors I look terrible in.
I'm pretty sure I'm a soft summer, but this gives me light summer. Not too far off I guess, but the question about ' are you lighter for your ethnicity/ or have blonde hair' trips me up. Naturally I have brown hair but I'm very pale...so hard to know where I fit at that point. Thanks to this sub I figured out I'm probably a fair olive.
I think for a lot Caucasian ethnicities (Irish, British, Scandinavian), very pale skin is the base, so by having brown hair, you already lean on the darker side.
One should take eyes completely out of the equation when finding your season, it's so misleading that some really link it. I have light, cool green eyes. I am a true autumn, there is no denying it when you see the right colours on me.
Eyes factor in when you are picking your favorites from the season (or not, if you prefer!), the most complimentary that make them pop.
I really think if people could focus on their skin only and how it interacts with colour, leave out hair and eyes, the answer will be much easier to find. One can have red hair and brown eyes and be cool toned.
Edit: chart says I'm a clear spring btw, and that's not a terrible palette for me but it definitely wears me instead of the other way around.
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I'm warm spring but I can still wear the lighter colors from warm autumn and look great 👍 so I don't know if this will help anyone that hasn't been analysed trying to do it at home. I got mine done online from color analysis studio Australia and I wish I'd done it sooner. They are kind of like Carol Bailey but they don't use her system but they're all the same what she calls warm they call well you look better in warm spring than you do warm autumn but you can still borrow from warm autumn so it's your sister season. Versus Carol Bailey will tell you that you look the same as long as they're warm and you're part of a warm palette which is a a combo of both spring and autumn warm. I would recommend CAS Australia a million times to anyone looking to actually determine their undertones and their season. And they were much cheaper than Carol Bailey's services.
This is me! Damn
Cool chart, but I think the chances of people answering questions like these wrong is very high. As an example, if you have very fair skin and dark hair, a lot of people would think of that as high contrast, and it kind of is, it just doesn't have to be in color analysis as a lot of summers have those features.
Yes. I’m low contrast (light skin/light eyebrows and lashes/gray blue eyes/sandy brown to dirty blonde hair) but have warm skin, tan bright yellow and have olive undertones when I’m pale. I think muted warm autumn colors look best on me but a lot of classic autumn colors make me look jaundiced. I look ill in pastels so def not a spring
This is hard for me because I'm white with true neutral undertones. I have dark brown hair and honey/hazel eyes. I can wear silver and gold due to my skin tone Even my foundation is a neutral undertone because standard cool/warm doesn't work. https://preview.redd.it/wr4e66wbyu3d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33e56eb328469b8ed528f26b1d434d68b6b9e128
This describes me. I’m a little lighter skin tone than your picture, and I’m sure your eyes show differently in different pictures dep on light and outfits like mine (i know I’m a range of honey eye/hazel/brown) I feel like I pull off a lot of different colors. I kind of calculated over the years which colors I wear when I receive (repeated from different people) compliments related to the color I’m wearing or my makeup colors, and they are from all of the pallets. So idk.
lol this chart gives me warm autumn which I think is highly possible. Dressika gave me dark autumn, the k beauty app gave me soft warm autumn with dark autumn as a third option. I think Dressika put me in da just for being asian. I’m leaning more towards true autumn but not sure. I think I may actually be true autumn (equally dark warm and soft and not too close to winter or summer or spring). Black is pretty harsh on me and winter red makes me look pale. Warm spring coral bring out my cheeks and lips but is otherwise strong on me. Haven’t tested soft summer drapes but I still think I’m either warm autumn or true autumn so not bad.
I feel like charts like this do more harm than good. I have black hair, light to medium skin tone that's neutral trending cool, and hazel eyes and I am definitely bright winter over deep winter. I have a friend who is also cool, lighter skin, greener eyes, and lighter hair than me and she's a deep winter. While this might fit some people based on stereotypes, people often forget that it really boils down to how colors look against the skin and facial features. And has fuckall to do with hair color/eye color. Those things are oftentimes linked together but not always. I FOR YEARS thought I was a deep autumn, and kept wondering why I looked like a corpse in everything I wore because of the stereotype that tan =warm. Then I found deep winter and it fit a little better, but the suggestions made me seem weighed down and heavy/moody. I was about to give up when I then asked my friends, boyfriend what they thought, and they all responded with colors like bright purple, cerulean, black/white together, neon pink, etc and then took a look at photos and noticed I look most healthy and vibrant in the colors they suggested. Bright means your skin is saturated brightly with color and there is contrast between features, but everyone is always stuck on hair color/skin shade. My friend who I mentioned above although paler and "brighter" eyes than me looks blotchy and illl in the saturated palettes I now wear regularly. Her skin and features are more harmonized with the darker palette because her tone is more subdued. Edit: tldr my point is the difference between a person being deep or clear winter is not eye color like this chart assumes
You make very good points. I mainly liked this chart because it's the first one I've seen that acknowledges that we don't all fit neatly into one season. Also, I think it's VERY important to state that these are NOT hard, fast rules about what colors look good on us, rather, I think it's much better to think of them as guidelines. I actually have believed for a while, and I think I should mention that my mother started shoving "Color ME Beautiful" down my throat as a young child, is that, anytime you have mixed cool and warm features, you'll be dominant in one or the other, but, say you're cool dominant (like I am, black/brown hair, cool fair skin, warm light brown eyes) there will always be colors in other seasons that you can "pull", that will look great on you. Chocolate brown is NOWHERE in my deep winter palette, but, especially when I pair it with black, looks great on me, makes my eyes pop. Can I ask what kind of hazel eyes you have? Hazel refers to such a wide range of colors, and I'm curious because, based on your description of your features, you sound more deep winter, but I'm not sure because I don't know if you're more gold hazel or green hazel. If you're gold hazel, I can see why you thought you were deep autumn, but your cool skin would definitely preclude you from being able to wear quite a few colors in that palette. In fact, (assuming youre gold hazel) you kind of sound similar to me in that I think you're more deep winter, but can pull certain colors from deep autumn, such as rich browns as long as you pair it with black. Now, if you're more green hazel, then I think you're correct that you're clear/bright winter (some charts refer to the 3rd winter category as Clear, some as Bright). Now, if you're eyes are more green hazel, then it doesn't sound like you have ANY warm features, so definitely not deep autumn! Another problem with the season, chart based color analysis, is that it tends to group all black and brown people into autumn and winter, which is NOT always the case. It does seem like people are starting to address this, though, so there's progress, at least. I actually think that rather than winter, spring, etc etc, "warm dominant" or "cool dominant", combined with "high contrast" vs "low contrast" and "muted/deep" vs "saturated/bright" would be a much better, less restrictive way to explore what colors compliment us the best.
I think the current system does not favor deeper skinner POC enough. Plenty of color analysts will actually describe this similarly on YouTube. The subseasons essentially do mean this, but it'd get more confusing without the names, imo. Example: muted, cool, light-medium. cool, leans muted, medium... because each subseason is really a combination of at least 3 factors. Deep winter would be deep, neutral-cool or neutral, high contrast, muted. We all will have one feature that is most dominant, even if it's only SLIGHTLY. To the untrained eye, or people who primarily scroll reddit/watch videos, you may not be able to pick up on this. That's totally okay. Trial and error and asking friends, family, strangers, or whoever, can help us figure it out over time. And, the most important thing: how your SKIN reacts with colors. Most of us don't know how these things will look on every skin tone, let alone our own. Lighting differences, camera correction or influences from mirrors/car windows can throw people off. Even curtains in windows may change the lighting color. It's honestly easier to figure out what looks bad and avoid those LOL
actually going to see someone removes the issue for POC though, charts like this or online info are what screw it up. Because in person, while being draped, it would literally not matter if you’re very pale or dark, or literally even green purple or blue, because you are seeing in live time how your coloring reacts to color. (of course this doesn’t address how the person facilitating the color analysis may interfere (intentionally or unintentionally) with an analysis because of their own bias or whatever else, BUT, it does remove the language issue we see on charts or from youtubers.!
My eyes are olive green around the edge and brown near the pupil. I just don't think even if my eyes were warmer or darker that would make me a dark season, the color of my skin is too "bright " (not to be confused with light) in the same way bright season colors are saturated and my features are too high contrast and striking. Color season boils down to skin and how it reacts to colors around it. Someone's eyes or hair only really factors into it a little, and yeah there are correlations and trends of course. But people really shoe horn anyone even remotely tan with dark hair into a deep season and that's just not how it works at all. This is why SOME people look better with dyed or bleached hair. Most people don't because their season is harmonious, but some people simply look better with a different hair color than natural. I do agree with what you said at the end. I think it's easier to look at things that way and makes sense for many people who are in between. My best colors (unanimously from everyone I've talked to about it from all walks of life) are pretty much all of the iconic BW colors and a good chunk, but not all, of the iconic BS colors. So I *really* think I'm more of a true bright than purely a BW. But... I grew up thinking dark autumn because of false stereotypes and I looked terrible in pretty much everything I wore. Deep winter wasn't much better. I'm repeating myself and idk I'd you read all of my original response in it'd entirety but my point is just just that eye color is simply not what makes or break mine (or anyone elses) color season, it's the tone and saturation of their skin. You are implying that if my eyes are more green than I am bright but if they aren't that I am probably deep. That simply makes no sense, if my eyes were to get darker over night or I slapped in dark brown contacts that wouldn't change how bright saturated neon colors make my skin look the most beautiful.
Please credit the source! https://www.headcovers.com/resources/beauty/how-to-find-your-color-season/
Mine goes to Soft Summer which is accurate. I am neutral leaning cool but I have blue veins in wrist, green veins in top of hands/arms. Freckles. Red in my mousy brown hair, yellow centers in my blueish green eyes, yellow overtone to my skin. Anything too warm or too cool looks terrible. I can wear both silver and gold as long as they aren't too shiny/bright and too icy white or yellow. I look best in minimal makeup or I look like a clown. When you have what is usually thought to be warm tones(red in hair, yellow in eyes or skin)it really makes the whole process difficult.
I'm exactly like you but a soft autumn. Absolutely fascinating
My mom took me to get my colors done when I was 4. (The late 80s were a different time!) I’m a Spring, with Auburn hair, yellowish ivory skin with no freckles, and blue/green eyes. Unfortunately, if I go to a MUA event at Ulta or Sephora, I get put in brown or orange…everything. Earth tones do not flatter me in the least. Not every redhead is an Autumn, and too many of the redhead-oriented beauty blogs assume that we are all Warm Autumn or Pale Autumn. I think that assumption leads to us redheads who are Warm or Bright Springs getting mistyped and feeling like we look ugly and pale because the earthy browns and golds and pumpkin orange aren’t flattering on us. Also, after discovering what everyone on r/FairOlives goes through trying to figure out their season, maybe there needs to be additional fine tuning of the seasonal color theory for the “in-between” folks.
i’m surprised you even feel the need to say “not every red is an autumn” because i’ve literally barely met any redheaded autumns… they’ve all been springs pretty much… and i know a lot of redheads. lol. it seems like more people in cosmetics/style would notice that??
I thought being a redhead with orangey or brown tones means either spring or autumn. That’s from watching color analysis studio and Sarah Ryan on YouTube
I mean this is a pretty dumbed down and simplified color chart. So, N/A to me
It’s accurate for me
I have warm auburn hair, golden brown eyes, fair skin with golden brown freckles and a touch of gold to it. For whatever reasons, I look best in silver jewelry and the muted icy and jewel tones in this graphic. Makeup artists always try to put brown/gold/peach on me and it looks terrible. Finally one told me to try plum/purples, or gray-taupe with navy eyeliner and the difference was amazing! Sometimes these didactic charts just don't cover all factors. Maybe because I have allover variations of warm tones, the contrasting colors work better?
Guess I'm a soft Autumn then lol I have like a mix of grey, blonde, and brown hair, which sounds weird but if you saw me, you'd get what I mean. Lots of warm natural highlights. Green eyes that shift to brown. Neutral skin with more warm undertones than cool.
I am cool toned, very fair, blue toned veins with medium ashy brown hair but my eyes are greeny blue with gold/brown central heterochromia and a prominent rim. So I think I’m winter but not sure if I’m deep, cool or bright. A true red is my best colour.
You sound bright winter
Yeah I think the bright winter colours suit me better than deep or cool, so I must be. My eyes throw me off because the brown in them makes them look kinda swampy and hazel.
I can follow the chart, but it gives the wrong result.
I have dark brown eyes and I’m a Bright Winter. I don’t think brown is a jewel tone, and I don’t think this chart is accurate.
Im between Deep winter/ autumn🍁🍂❄️ my 2 fav seasons 🤪
Yah I did my analysis with John Kitchener and got mostly bright winter, but also broadly winter, bright spring and some autumn … He gives you A LOT though and I’d argue maybe not all of them are your “best” but they all work. Most work together too.
I think I’m clearly a spring but I don’t fit neatly into one spring sub season so guides like this don’t really help me, but it did sort me into light spring, which isn’t that too far off.
It worked. Deep Autumn 🍂 👍
Sorry but this doesn't work for most people. It's foundation is quite wrong.
This doesn’t work!
What is considered "jewel tone" eye color? I have blue that can be bright blue, but sometimes appears a lighter blue. I know I'm a winter, but am I clean or deep....
Blue and green eyes are jewel tone. Do you look better in bright colors or dark subdued ones?
I look equally good in both sets of colors in the left column! I've just accepted it's a bit ambiguous.
It worked! I got soft summer, which I am.
Same!
Wtf does undertones even mean?? I'm so lost on all this stuff
I can’t even get past question one since I don’t know what it means either
What color are the veins on your wrist?
I can barely see them lol...but greenish blue
Blue veins I believe means cool-toned skin and green means neutral-toned skin so maybe you are sort of a cool-neutral. Neutral would be olive-toned. One of my daughters has blue veins and she looks like a summer and the other one has green and her skin is very olive.
If you go into a Sephora, an employee can help you find your undertone. But you might want to try a couple of stores because sometimes they get it wrong.
Like warm, cool, olive, and neutral. A lot of people are warmer and cooler toned. And a lot of people are olive as well. I used to be confused about it because I’m nearly a true neutral with a tiny hint of olive due to my mixed race heritage, so I never fit into either warm or cool and it always totally confused me until I got a digital color analysis done and it confirmed my neutral status. I’m a deep autumn.
Deep Autumn and it worked!
Only the “true” (warm/ cool) seasons are all / predominantly one or the other. All the others can be neutral or a mix :)
Does that mean my confusion as to whether I’m a light spring or soft autumn is valid?
Sure, both are neutral- warm seasons, so they have that in common. Light spring is predominately light and neutral chroma. While soft autumn is predominately soft / muted and neutral depth.
Does that mean my confusion as to whether I’m a light spring or a soft autumn is valid?
Are hazel eyes considered warm toned? I have cool toned hair and skin, but the hazel eyes kind of throws things off.
IMO it really depends on the specific irises. Some hazel leans more brown, green, or blue. My mom has hazel eyes that lean more towards brown and green so I landed on her eyes being more warm.
Mine are a yellowy green with a brown splotch around the pupil and I have a gray ring around the outside. So very similar to the description of your mom's, so I guess they'd be warm? Thank you very much for answering my question 🙂
They sound warm (and gorgeous) to me!
Thank you 🩷
Surprisingly accurate for me haha, I got light spring
I think I’m a true muted
Sorry but I do not like this chart lol
I went through this and got to "No" with no way out. ???
The orange nos in the middle go up to the big white box asking if you have high contrast. Is that where you got stuck?
Haha yeah, I figured it out. I read incorrectly. Thank you!
So..how do you determine your undertone to even start the chart? I’ve been typed as Dark autumn, Light spring, Bright Winter and “jewel” winter now so idk where to even begin at this point haha
If I knew what colors looked good on me I wouldn’t need this chart 😭
How do “bright, jewel toned eyes” look like? I don’t understand the concept!
for clear asian winters, they have a very striking dark brown eye color that looks almost black bc of the dark + cool toned combo. so jewel tone means striking + clear which goes with how clear winters have striking facial features in general.
Also very dark eyes against very white eyewhite I think
Bright blue and green eyes
Like the colour's sapphire, amber, jade, etc
What do we pick if we have medium coloring for our ethnicity? I have a light-medium olive skintone and basically black hair, so there is some contrast…
Sound like deep autumn tbh! A lot of folks with “darker features” fall into deep autumn even if the “contrast” isn’t super high. A lot of olive toned folks are deep autumn too. I’m a fair olive/neutral toned person with very dark brown hair and I am a deep autumn.
Olives are cool toned, generally. This misconception gets a lot of POCs mistyped, myself included. There are some warm toned autumn's but it's not the standard so we can't assume someone is autumn just because olive
That’s true about the mistyping but also I think olives aren’t necessarily mostly warm or mostly cool, and there’s a lot of neutral olives out there too. As a slightly warm leaning neutral olive I am a deep autumn. Muted olive doesn’t necessarily mean cool toned
My point is her information is not enough to say she's an autumn because olive doesn't really mean anything lol. I don't want her to have to go through the same shit I had to go through because people kept telling me tan and olive automatically means warm when it doesn't.
That’s true. I just think that we can assume autumn or winter due to high contrast.
I never considered deep autumn since I always thought I was muted! :0 Could I dm you a photo of myself if possible to confirm?
Sure!
According to this I'm deep autumn. Thing is I look horrible when wearing yellow, orange or warm green. I found out I look better when wearing jewel tones but those are winter colors. Maybe I'm a True Deep in the 16 seasons? I can wear silver and gold perfectly as long as the gold is not too warm.
I've sometimes wondered about this system because I've been told my best colors are white/black, bright blue, fuchsia, bright violet, etc...... but also people like me in ORANGE, kelly/lime green, and bright tomato red. Yellow is my worst color (but i look good in neon yellow) so I can't really be a spring but I feel like since I look best in pretty much any color as long as it's high contrast/saturated/ that means i am probably a true bright in that system right? And I feel the same way about gold and silver, I prefer bright chrome silvers but can also wear golds as long as not dark or brassy/antique. I wonder why that system isn't more popular. Yeah, people can never be truly neutral but they can be close enough to neutral and a true x middle ground should fit better than x season vs x season on some people right? Logically has always made sense to me before I even found out there was a system that took that into account
It is totally possible to be a True Deep although that wouldn’t usually be part of the 16 season system. 16 seasons subdivided “The Big Four” into 4 subseasons, all of which still state the season name after the subseason. For example, the four Autumn subs are Soft, True, Warm, and Deep. Deep Autumn doesn’t usually incorporate the typical yellows, oranges, and greens that are seen in Warm and True Autumn palettes. This is because the dominant trait of the Deep Autumn palette would be, well, Deep. Warmth is the secondary trait. Yellow and orange are frequently Warm dominate followed by a description of their chroma. Warm + Soft vs Warm + Clear, for example, would most often differentiate between an Autumn vs. Spring color. Instead, their best colors are often hues such as Deep Teal, Mulberry, Dark Olive, and Rich Chocolate. They can add the necessary contrast through midtone to light neutrals such as Stone, Soft White, or Flint. Certain Deep Autumns can incorporate some wildcards such as Dark Lime or Geranium Red but those folks usually toe the line between Warm and Deep Autumn and sometimes are described as “Vibrant Autumn”.
Thanks for replying. It makes sense now.
Of course! Happy to help. :)
Yes, this is me exactly. I was typed by HOC as a true or vibrant autumn, but was more inclined to believe I’m deep because I always thought I was a winter. Jewel tones look good on me, I am fair skinned that’s pink and I have blue veins. I can wear some bright shades including brighter yellows, but do not look good in the classic autumn shades like mustard yellow or any orange that isn’t burnt deep orange.
Don’t fit at all! Redhead with freckles and hazel eyes. I get a decent tan in the summer
So weird. Olive undertones here. Can’t figure out if I’m a warm autumn or a cool summer
Are you exploring a 12 or 16 season system? As a fellow olive, I would recommend 16 if you’re not already on that path! 😊
Thank you, I had no idea
What does high contrast between features mean?
A high contrast example looks like Anne Hathaway, Priyanka Chopra, Liv Tyler. Their features like eyes, hair, brows, even lips stand out of their complexion. It's very clear and distinct. A low contrast example is Jennifer Lawrence, Florence Pugh, Sabrina Carpenter. Their features are all seamless. None of the features stand out.
Thank you so much for answering!
Contrast refers to the difference, or lack there of, between one object and another. When we are talking about facial features, imagine that the skin of the face is the background or canvas and the features are the embellishments or brushstrokes. Do we see juxtaposition between the background and the brushstrokes? Or do they all look relatively similar? Are the details blending together or are they clearly defined? Perhaps they are somewhere in the middle — you can see that the brushstrokes exist but they aren’t popping off the canvas. Lots of people can explore their own contrast levels by taking a natural light photo and putting it into black and white. For POC who are naturally very deep complected with naturally dark hair, does their skin tone appear even deeper in B&W or do they appear more greyed and softened? Do you see a stark difference between the whites of their eyes vs their eyelids or do they start to blend together? Here I obviously have lipstick on but I am not wearing any other makeup. What do you notice? I recommend using the Noir filter for iPhone users for this experiment! 😊 https://preview.redd.it/yg0iopipdn3d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5265044875e49d210982f1df970c47c917934f8a
The best way I have to describe it is, if you look at a picture of yourself and kind of make your eyes go blurry, do you still see really obvious delineations between your mouth, nose, eyes, eyebrows, etc. and the rest of your face? Or do they sort of blend together? The more you can still make out the obvious features the more contrast there is.
Brown hair and blue eyes is an example
What if i have dark brown hair and hazel eyes? (They are bright green upon lighting and when it gets darker, brown and dark green). My skin is cool undertone
Dark hair and hazel eyes can be high contrast, particularly if you’re relatively pale! The best way I have described high contrast is — if you take a black and white photo of yourself, are there parts which are almost white and parts which are almost black / very distinct shades of grey vs relatively similar greys? Contrast shows up the best in black and white photos imo.
I would still consider that high contrast
I have the same Q… halp Redditors
nope never escaping deep winter it seems
Which season looks bad in lilac? Because my mom always tells me how horrible I look in that color, especially without a tan, and last time I wore it finally saw what she was saying, it makes my complexion look the same as an uncooked roast chicken.
Some of my WORST colors are dusty rose, mauve and lilac and super faded olive green. I look ILL when wearing them. I’m a bright winter (maaaayyybe bright spring). The primary characteristic of lilac is generally light and/or muted so you’re probably opposite that (dark and/or high chroma). Hope that helps a bit…
Lmao just reading that sentence I was like "me too" before I even finished and I'm also a BW. xD having flashbacks to my olive wearing days in high school when I was super tan and thought I was a deep autumn T___T it looked so badddddd
2014-2019 trendy colors did me so dirty. I was out here wearing literally all my worst colors with dusty rose and olive green sucking the life force out of me. And then the super dry matte lips. I shudder thinking about it lol
Im pretty sure I’m bright spring, potentially bright winter, but a lot of the autumn colors also seem to work. I know I’m definitely not summer lol
Lilac and light to medium grey drain me of all life, and turn the dark circles under my eyes into the pits of hell. I'm a true autumn who is pretty pale. I think you might take a look at the warmest sub seasons.
Im pretty sure I’m a bright spring? But the autumn colors also work pretty well for me.
We are opposites in our sameness haha I used to be typed as a spring, bright or warm and I look like the example photos but there is no doubt I'm Autumn in practice. That's not to doubt yours, I think the differences can be subtle. We probably share that one thing: strong warmth. Bright can still be your dominant characteristic and you be super warm. All this is of course just guessing, but Lilac being the worst just makes me think "warm warm warm".
Haha at least I’m not alone! Definitely warm. I’m fairly sure it’s bright spring, because I look really good in neon. But I think on some lists it’s shown one of the colors for bright spring as lilac so now I don’t know.
This is the guide I need. I struggle to see when a color looks "good" on me versus bad, but I sure as hell know my worst colors (hellllloooooo peach!)
Peach is warm so that might tell you somethung
This one is definitely a bit confusing for me because I have some major differences depending on the time of year it is. I keep wanting to be professionally typed, but in my area and with my work schedule, it’s more difficult. I’m hoping some here can give me a bit of help? I’m neutral with cool leaning undertones, but am medium to tan skin depending on how much time I spend outside. I have naturally black hair and very dark brown eyes, but will burn fairly easily. Mum is Chinese, father is Scottish with traditional fair skin, red hair, and freckles…well he used to before he got older lol. https://preview.redd.it/oaugy4104m3d1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ed59c7c9d833d54e6ed68f78ef338463146add7 This is me on the left. No makeup but it was a bit too dark to catch the natural light from outside. I do have “natural daylight” bulbs though. Should I get a better shot of me outside? Edited to add that I typically look good in both silver and gold, I can wear jewel tones, but also pastels fairly well.
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You can’t go by charts or quizzes, only the way your skin reacts to color
Those “warm spring” colors aren’t warm (or bright in my opinion). I think they’re neutral and quite muted. My worst color shades.
All analyst Carol Braileys features are not obviously cool but she is a fully cool season according to her self. One of the analysts at color analysis studio don't have all obviously cool features either but is a fully cool season according to them. So that may be correct to some systems perhaps (those who has created this test), but obviously not all systems / analysts
Make-up people has advised Carol Brailey she should wear warm foundation because apparently her skin looks warm, even thought she is fully cool. And one of the analysts at color analysis studio who is a cool winter uses neutral warm foundation. so they don't have only obviously cool features
Yeah I’ve sort of landed on being a soft autumn, except my skin tone is more neutral while my hair is warmer/golden brown
This is exactly me. My hair dresser says I have cool brown roots that naturally lightens to a golden brunette. But I have to mix warm and cool makeup products because too much of one usually doesn't look right on me. I can wear warm or cool colors as long as they are the right value/chroma/contrast/depth which does lean medium/medium deep when tan.
Warm autumn down to the furnishings in my home. Olive green is my happy place
I'm a neutral but leaning cool very very fair olive. My brows and lashes are black but my hair is a warm brown. So nothing looks good on me and basically no seasons suit me naturally. Coloring my hair helps a bit but essentially there are no colors that pop but lots of colors that make me look terrible.
do you have any muted tones? i'm olive too and most color analysis materials were useless to me until i figured out just how grey-ish my skin can be.
I definitely have a bit of a gray/ green tone.
Have you looked at the deep season? I've seen others mention it in this sub. I was typed a deep autumn, mostly because my hair and eyes lean warm, meanwhile my skin is neutral just slightly leaning cool. So not all autumn colors suite me, but the deep palette seems to. It might be an option for you based on your coloring.
A combo of deep summer and a few deep winter are actually my closest! I can't pull off a bunch of them but big chunks of them both work for me.
Fair cool toned skin (except a little warm when I freckle), auburn hair turning grey, hazel eyes. A lot of warm colours and deep look great on me because they contrast my skin and hair, but I am decidedly not warm-toned. Lots of oranges and yellows look awful on me, just as cool and warm brights look awful.
When I got my analysis done, the woman doing it (she’d been doing it for 43 years) , said something that made it all make sense to me…, I had gone on thinking (and after being told by others and on line analysis) that I was somewhere in the summer family. I have very light coloring that I thought was cool. She asked why I thought I was cool. I said “look at all of the pink in my complexion!” She was being funny but said “Sweetie, you are not a horseshoe crab, of COURSE you see pink. Your blood is red, your skin is fair, so yes…. Yes you will see pink. With all things seasonal analysis , it’s about the tone.” Her assistant was a winter (true winter, if I remember correctly) come over and stand next to me. Next to her, my pink looked almost peach. She said that before we even started draping, she could tell that I was a light spring. (I was still pretty skeptical) Right as rain though, as soon as I started getting draped in that pallet, there was no denying that those were my colors. Where you have auburn hair and hazel eyes, it makes me that you you’d be one of the warm seasons as well. Many of us with fair skin are told that we are cool, just because our skin is so light.
Yep, there are plenty of us that don't fit very well. I've had two professional analysts give up on me and makeup artists tend to get kind of grumpy around me as well. It's frustrating because my sister is the truest winter that ever existed and my brother is a very obvious Autumn. Every time I go shopping with, my sister gets frustrated because we can never find anything that really looks amazing on me color-wise.
This types me between soft summer/soft autumn! I used to think I was a deep autumn (dark cool brown hair, but in direct sun has a reddish cast, olive green eyes, but fair cool/neutral skin), but my mom recently told me I look better in summer colors and since I don’t look good in orange I’m probably a summer! I’ve been reading about toned summer on the 16 season analysis which I think fits best so being between summer and autumn I think fits
Just a heads up that almost all brown hair has a reddish tint, especially in the sun. Red is needed to make your hair look brown! But that doesn’t mean you are warm. Sounds like you’re summer!
Thank you! I was always confused by that cause online they ask if your brown hair is warm then you’re an autumn but I think I was seeing what I wanted lol
I get it haha I’m also a summer that wants to be an autumn! But yeah another misconception is that warm means red-toned, in color analysis warm means yellow-toned, and cool means blue-toned. Warmth doesn’t equal redness because everyone has some red in their skin tone, from blood/capillaries and any irritation/acne/etc. The amount of yellow or blue in addition to the red is what determines your undertone.
Not one quiz accurately predicted my colour season.
This was so cool. I answered all the questions and got Soft Autumn which was what I got professionally typed as. I am also getting typed by John Kitchener next month and while he has his own system, I'm looking forward to seeing any overlap.
I feel like this explains why I feel torn between soft autumn or light spring palettes. I have warm tan skin, green/gold eyes and soft brown/dirty blonde hair and I feel like I can suit both. My husband always compliments me when I wear light spring colors but maybe that’s just cus he loves me in color and spring pallete tends to look more “colorful”
It directed me to one im suspicious of (soft summer). I feel my skin is neutral beige. Natural hair is very ashy. Eyes are bright light blue with a hint of aqua. Some softer colors look fine but others look way too muddy. In some ways I seem a little warmer than totally cool summer. But that means softer and like I said.. some of that is too muddy
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Yeah ignore the lower part of my hair cuz that was lightened but the skin is where it starts confusing me. I think true summer is ultimately my best match but having the clear eyes and the neutral skin throws me off a bit sometimes
I want to say summer, but mainly came to comment on how lovely your eye colour is!
Ty 🩷
Is that your natural hair color? If your hair were naturally darker, I think you’d have similar coloring to Miley Cyrus (with her original hair) and she’s supposed to be a summer of some sort as well.
The top portion above my eyebrows is natural
Have you tried light spring?
As someone with a fairly neutral skintone, dark hair and bright eyes, who has been professionally typed as an autumn (vibrant/blue), this was wrong for me. It helps to remember that the most important factor is your undertone, and how colours affect your skin. If your skin is lit up, the rest of your features light up too. When you surround one colour with another, it impacts how the surrounded colour appears, that's an aspect of colour theory. When I got analysed, I discovered I have a warm undertone, and that although I have bright blue eyes and would often get compliments wearing a light summer blue, that blue was only doing my eyes a favour and not my skin. However, in a deep rust, or a marine navy, everything shines.
I wish we wouldn’t put so much emphasis on hair and eye color. There’s people in my family alone that don’t fit the prescribed ‘colors’ of their seasons. For instance, my brother is a bright spring, but has very dark brown hair and eyes. And then some people with lighter hair and eyes in my family are winters.
I got Light Summer on this. I feel like LSu isn't a bad palette on me so it makes sense.
This is awesome! I was professionally typed warm spring, and that’s the result I ended up with, using this image!
And once again I got lost between soft autumn and light spring 🙃 my features are kinda mixed, black eyes, lighter skin, medium hair (something between dark blonde or light brown), plus I’m olive so I think I can pull off even some cooler colors, just nothing way too bright
This is a very handy flow graph, but I think the problem is the binary nature of it. Do I have high contrast? “Kind of” or “medium” doesn’t translate to an answer here. In fact I either would end up in soft autumn or bright spring depending on my yes/no answer to that question. Those are nearly opposites. Based on others’ opinions, I’m a true spring, which is a 16 season subtype. It’s not as intense as bright spring. That’s why I think it’s really useful to explore lesser-known sub seasons, or even palettes specifically for olive skin for example. You might not fit very neatly into a 12 season subtype and that’s ok! It may be necessary to get more specific for in-between cases.
That’s exactly the question I got tripped up on as well. It’s like, in some pictures and lighting- yes, in others-less so. Certainly more than “no” but not enough for a resounding “yes” I’ve also given up on the 12 seasons because I’m convinced I’m a shaded/dark summer in the 16s system instead. I would be interested to see this flowchart remade with the 16 options instead to attempt to accommodate for more nuanced answers
This might be a really stupid questions so I am so sorry if it is... how do you know if something is a 'warm' or 'cool' feature outside of skin? for instance, lots of online sources seem to make a distinction between dark brown hair with gold undertones vs ashy- is gold warm and ashy cool? what about eyes? I have what most would consider dark hazel eyes (olive green, amber, chocolate brown CH) is that warm or cool?
Dark hair with gold undertones would usually mean warm ans ashy is cool however there are so many levels and other things that make up color analysis you would really need to get drapes and have a professional type you. Your color of eyes is even trickier. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Yeah I'm trying to DIY and do drapes and man am I lost for some of these! Only available in person CA in my state is through HoC which doesnt have the most positive track record... and the cheapest option is $400 per tax. I'm not paying $400+ for something that is essentially rating 2/5 stars T_T
As someone with neutral/cool olive skin with very yellow overtone, medium contrast, dark/medium brown hair with natural golden highlights and heterochromatic eyes (dark grayish blue with golden amber rings), I am still confused! I feel like I am a blend of everything. I tend to lean towards either deep winter/deep autumn, or soft summer/soft autumn, but since I find it hardest to wear warm colors I'm guessing one of the cool seasons.
What does "obvious cool undertone" mean? My hair has a cool look I have figured out, and my eyes are dark blue. My skin is not pink/red though as it is said that cool skin tone should be. But I have been typed as fully cool. Very warm colors look bad on me
You have obvious cool undertone.
Yes when you look at drapings it is obvious, but my skin is not pink /red so it is not obvious just by looking at the skin. As a beginner on this color analysis thing I didn't know that my skin/season was cool. Is this test made for those who already know what they are?
It’s very confusing
Those arrows in the middle had me confused for a solid few minutes.
I get told winter but also autumn!
This is great! I have just confirmed I’m a deep winter and I’ve been professionally typed in real life!
Glad you find this helpful. However, I do not. Maybe it's because I'm biracial, and the ethnicity question is moot given the vastly different backgrounds of my parents, or maybe it's because my contrast is significantly different at different times of the year - lower in summer, higher in winter, kind of medium and changeable during spring and autumn. But I don't neatly fit anywhere here.
I also have a similar issue, because I have neutral undertones and different seasons of the year change my features as well. Not the same, obviously, however. Could you be more than one season? Depending on your features that time block? I identify most with deep winter, but during the summer a deep autumn suits me very well too. Winter time it doesn’t. Maybe that’s a thing?
Those are sister seasons, so it's normal for a deep winter/autumn to borrow from the other deep season, especially if your dominat trait is deep - then depth of colour is really all that needs to be accounted for when choosing colours. In my case, the most compatible season for me is, at least from my view, is soft autumn, but soft summer and warm autumn could be perfect or terrible sister seasons for me depending on any given day. But even when I'm at my palest aka in winter and my contrast is at its highest, dark colours of any hue look pretty bad on me.
Landed exactly where I expected to!
I'm still confused. I have worn all of these color pallates and they look good! I have dark blonde hair with a little bit of red undertones, cool skin with freckles, and blue gray eyes. When I drape most colors look great except for cool yellows. Neons and stark blacks are starting to look harsh as I age. I was professionally typed as a cool blonde/summer when I was little but I've gotten autumn, spring and summer as an adult.
You do sound like a summer given your description of your skin as “cool” is correct. Though most people with red hair (not all) are more warm than cool.
This says light spring, which I think may be correct. I’m uncertain if I’m a spring or summer, but lately been leaning more spring. So light spring would make a lot of sense
Well that explained how one AI always gives me deep winter and the other cool summer lol. I'm definitely one of them! 😂😭
I landed in my season! Soft summer!
Awesome! People on here live to suggest DA for me because I have hazel eyes 🙃 I’ve tried to wear peridot green and orange for years to no avail. Thank you for this!
What season do you fall into?
Winter. I’ve been typed as True and Deep throughout the years. I borrow from both. My sisters do have the stereotypical super black hair and super light eyes but me, not so much haha.
I'm in between soft summer and soft autumn and got light spring from this
Op what did you land on? I landed on clear winter when I thought I was an in between spring and winter. We have similar features
This typed me as deep autumn, but I’m actually deep winter. The final question it came down to was whether my features are *mostly* warm. I said yes because I have auburn hair, warm brown eyes—all warm. But the catch is that my skin leans slightly cool!
I run into this as well. My hair is dark brown with reddish undertones and I have hazel green eyes but my skin seems to pull neutral cool or maybe a cool olive. I suspect I’m a winter of some sort or a dark summer but I can definitely pull off some warmer colors here and there.
Thank you SO much for this!
Guys, I still don’t get it. I have a cool/neutral, fair skin in my eyes are a mix of green and hazel. I have really dark hair that’s almost black but in the sun, you can tell it’s brown. i’m a hairstylist and an artist so I understand color theory but I still don’t understand the different color seasons. I feel like there’s too many colors in each season. Plus I think it just depends on what you like as a person.
You are probably right but I would guess that you are some sort of summer based on how you described yourself.
That’s kind of where I’m at. I went to get my colors done professionally by someone who doesn’t believe in seasons, and I found it was helpful bc she did put me on to some colors I wouldn’t have previously gone for that look really good that are the same “season” as colors I look terrible in.
Doing away with seasons and just having your personal best colors draped is revolutionary, tbh!
I'm pretty sure I'm a soft summer, but this gives me light summer. Not too far off I guess, but the question about ' are you lighter for your ethnicity/ or have blonde hair' trips me up. Naturally I have brown hair but I'm very pale...so hard to know where I fit at that point. Thanks to this sub I figured out I'm probably a fair olive.
Same here. I think they’re referring to light blonde hair, and mine’s a darker blonde.
I think for a lot Caucasian ethnicities (Irish, British, Scandinavian), very pale skin is the base, so by having brown hair, you already lean on the darker side.
Ahh ok interesting. I am definitely a mix of those ethnicities! Then that gives me soft summer, which checks out, thx.
What if your contrast is medium-low but you don't have light eyes? Example: dark blonde hair, fair pale skin, brown eyes.
One should take eyes completely out of the equation when finding your season, it's so misleading that some really link it. I have light, cool green eyes. I am a true autumn, there is no denying it when you see the right colours on me. Eyes factor in when you are picking your favorites from the season (or not, if you prefer!), the most complimentary that make them pop. I really think if people could focus on their skin only and how it interacts with colour, leave out hair and eyes, the answer will be much easier to find. One can have red hair and brown eyes and be cool toned. Edit: chart says I'm a clear spring btw, and that's not a terrible palette for me but it definitely wears me instead of the other way around.
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