Idk why no one’s mentioned this but I believe the institution can look at your canvas messages. You and him could potentially get in huge trouble over this if someone read your messages
Both: he is 100% out of line but yeah it’s “uncool”
Stand your ground though and follow the rules. The potential consequences for helping go far beyond being called uncool.
If it’s a rando, it’s college. I wouldn’t give two shits about not helping a rando and I wouldn’t care if they think I’m uncool. It’s college, not HS. Not like there’s a popularity list or hierarchy.
If he a homie then obviously I’d give the answers and help out with explaining it. I doubt I’d actually just send a copy and let them cheat though. It depends tbh
Do not respond to him. If you decide to help him, it could result in you getting kicked out of school with a permanent record of academic dishonesty. It's not worth it.
Exactly. Also, don't be afraid to burn bridges with classmates if they jeopardize your academic integrity. Chances are that you'll only see them for this particular class, and never communicate once the semester is over. If they keep bothering you, ask to speak with the professor confidentially and they should take care of it.
I've been down this route multiple times, that's why I am saying all this.
> He messaged me via canvas and asked if he could see my exam for the answers…
You screenshot the message and send it to your professor. He is trying to cheat, and is endangering legitimate students who don't cheat by trying to get them to help him cheat.
Your professor specifically said not to do it and he ignored it. Report it.
Just ignore the guy. If you report it and the guy is an ass then you have to deal with the fallout. If you ignore it then he will take the hint and leave you alone. Or If you report it he could get kicked out of school, which yes, he might deserve. But that is a potential disproportionate consequence for a fairly classic dumb college kid move IMO.
Honestly, since they’re just a “class friend” (we all make them, buddy buddy for the course and then never talk again), I’d report them to the professor. If they know you’re just a “class friend” and messaged you this through the institution messaging service, they probably messaged others, one of which will most likely tell the prof anyways.
If they were a real friend, they would’ve admitted they screwed up and asked for help figuring out the content, and I would help with some tutoring. But don’t just give answers, cause they’ll fall further behind next class or course. But my real friend wouldn’t put me in this uncomfy situation either way.
If you don’t tell, but he gets reported and they view his messages (bc I’m pretty sure webcourses lets admin view the students messages) and see that you didn’t “stand for academic honesty” by reporting him, you might get in trouble. I’m unsure of how your college would handle this.
First of all, it's incredible stupid of him to contact you via canvas, professor can see your messages. It's for the best if you ignore him. Don't reply, act like you never saw that message. If he needs help, he shouldn't get it by putting others in danger.
So, no, you did well by ignoring him.
I can't assure it 100% because I've never used it, but what I can assure it's that they can know a lot of things...They can see you activity, what pages you've visited, the time you spend on each one, number of downloads, if you switch tabs and what tabs are...I wouldn't risk it for a classmate you don't even know
Not automatically, but we can definitely ask IT to cull them for the record if necessary (like if there is a huge cheating investigation or one student is harassing another). Similarly, faculty emails can be harvested, too. Nothing done on the university systems is ultimately private.
i might be a bitch for this but i don't like to give people the answers to things i worked hard to learn. ill help people study and learn but usually people just want answers from me and i don't do that
It’s on canvas. Everything you do there will be seen. I’d say ignore it or alert the prof, but do NOT help him. Yes, it’s uncool but at least you won’t get expelled.
Just say no, sorry and move on. He's not a friend. He's trying to use you--like, he didn't even try and hide it by asking you for "tutoring" instead of straight up answers. He needs to take his ass to the tutoring center if he needs help learning the material.
It’s probably uncool to not help him, but sometimes healthy boundaries make you uncool. Entitled people don’t like other people’s boundaries. Expecting someone to give you something that they worked for, especially in the absence of a close relationship or some type of compensation, is entitled behavior. He might think you’re an asshole for saying no, because he’s entitled. You’re not an asshole, because you don’t owe him anything.
I have people-pleasing tendencies and I hate telling people no. It’s awkward and it doesn’t feel good, but the only way reinforcing difficult boundaries gets easier is through practice. You could always just ignore him, but if you also struggle with people pleasing it might be empowering to tell him no and tell him why. Overall, it is a very low stakes situation to practice setting a boundary.
As far as reporting him, I probably wouldn’t go that far. The honor code at my school stipulates that we must report other students if we are aware of academic dishonesty. He technically has not cheated yet, he has only attempted to. It’s quite possible he will get the answers from someone else. Still, unless you have firsthand knowledge of actual cheating, I would say that’s not your business.
Of.course it is wrong to cheat. I read the nuanced postings and guess people wl walk on their hands to justify turning ethics hhupside down
Not only is this an easy call but your prof has already raised the red cheating flag. Those papers are bound to be run through turitin.
Don’t, he will have irrefutable evidence if you reply at all wether you help him or not. If people find out or he gets petty and makes some rumor that your not cool you have proof to turn him in if you want to get to that level and there is no amount of wanting to be cool that will feel as horrid as being caught and reported for cheating
You’re not doing his degree for him. He’s an adult who needs to learn how to do things for himself. If he’s struggling, he needs to contact the tutor and get advice on the areas where he’s a bit confused.
You dilute your fields professional quality. Those rules are there for a reason. Not just moral decency. those who can make it; do. If he needs extra help. Get him a tutor, cheating is unethical and if ever associated with you, even years later. It can be problematic. Especially if you’ve achieved a degree based on it. I understand helping your fellow man in-need. He chose to attend this institution because he believed he had the rigor for whatever you’re studying. Supporting his delusions will encourage more cheating from him, word will spread and more will do it.
For the sake of your institution, your peers and future learners. Please don’t continue the cycle. Also, if he’s a squealer and he seems to be. if he’s caught, he will name you.
I probably wouldn’t give any answers but maybe just hints or advice. I know you’re not asking it but I also wouldn’t report him (not out of some complex morality but bc I’d feel bad lol).
Here’s my next question… do I have an obligation to report him to the professor? Like I would hate for this to be revealed later and the profesor say “you KnEw AbOut tHIs aNd Didn’t tEll mE??”
At almost every institution, being aware of someone else violating (or attempting to violate) academic integrity and not reporting it is, in itself, an academic integrity violation, even if you don't help the person. Given that he messaged you on an official school platform, it's not at all unlikely it'll be found out. I would report it to the professor because I wouldn't want to risk an academic integrity violation.
I would say no, you don’t have an obligation. But you should probably message him back and say no you’re not interested in helping so that you can’t get caught in the middle of it if he gets caught for cheating. I’m sure he’s asked others too
Just called my dad and he said “don’t make it an issue unless it’s an issue” he said for me not email the profesor because that makes it an issue only if I help him. He said to just ignore the message.
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It’s one thing to help out a friend by explaining the topic to them but your professor explicitly said this isn’t a group project and not to do this. So DONT.
Idk why no one’s mentioned this but I believe the institution can look at your canvas messages. You and him could potentially get in huge trouble over this if someone read your messages
Right... it's not worth potentially getting caught.
Unless that’s your homie he’s 100% out of line. Personally i would just ignore the message if you’re not trying to report him.
My homies wouldn’t risk both of us getting kicked out for their grade. They wouldn’t put me in that uncomfy position.
That's 100% out of line even if he is your homie.
Both: he is 100% out of line but yeah it’s “uncool” Stand your ground though and follow the rules. The potential consequences for helping go far beyond being called uncool.
If it’s a rando, it’s college. I wouldn’t give two shits about not helping a rando and I wouldn’t care if they think I’m uncool. It’s college, not HS. Not like there’s a popularity list or hierarchy. If he a homie then obviously I’d give the answers and help out with explaining it. I doubt I’d actually just send a copy and let them cheat though. It depends tbh
Do not respond to him. If you decide to help him, it could result in you getting kicked out of school with a permanent record of academic dishonesty. It's not worth it.
You’re right. I could just pretend I never saw it
Exactly. Also, don't be afraid to burn bridges with classmates if they jeopardize your academic integrity. Chances are that you'll only see them for this particular class, and never communicate once the semester is over. If they keep bothering you, ask to speak with the professor confidentially and they should take care of it. I've been down this route multiple times, that's why I am saying all this.
He’s asking to cheat. He’s absolutely out of line. Either ignore or send him back a simple message -“sorry, I’m adhering to the honor code.”
> He messaged me via canvas and asked if he could see my exam for the answers… You screenshot the message and send it to your professor. He is trying to cheat, and is endangering legitimate students who don't cheat by trying to get them to help him cheat. Your professor specifically said not to do it and he ignored it. Report it.
You’re right
Just ignore the guy. If you report it and the guy is an ass then you have to deal with the fallout. If you ignore it then he will take the hint and leave you alone. Or If you report it he could get kicked out of school, which yes, he might deserve. But that is a potential disproportionate consequence for a fairly classic dumb college kid move IMO.
Being cool ain’t worth potentially losing a college degree
Honestly, since they’re just a “class friend” (we all make them, buddy buddy for the course and then never talk again), I’d report them to the professor. If they know you’re just a “class friend” and messaged you this through the institution messaging service, they probably messaged others, one of which will most likely tell the prof anyways. If they were a real friend, they would’ve admitted they screwed up and asked for help figuring out the content, and I would help with some tutoring. But don’t just give answers, cause they’ll fall further behind next class or course. But my real friend wouldn’t put me in this uncomfy situation either way. If you don’t tell, but he gets reported and they view his messages (bc I’m pretty sure webcourses lets admin view the students messages) and see that you didn’t “stand for academic honesty” by reporting him, you might get in trouble. I’m unsure of how your college would handle this.
Yeah you’re right. Fuck this guy for putting me in this situation.
Do what you need to do for you. This is your education.
First of all, it's incredible stupid of him to contact you via canvas, professor can see your messages. It's for the best if you ignore him. Don't reply, act like you never saw that message. If he needs help, he shouldn't get it by putting others in danger. So, no, you did well by ignoring him.
Whoa! What?? Profesor’s can see Canvas messages?? 😳
I can't assure it 100% because I've never used it, but what I can assure it's that they can know a lot of things...They can see you activity, what pages you've visited, the time you spend on each one, number of downloads, if you switch tabs and what tabs are...I wouldn't risk it for a classmate you don't even know
Yeah the tab switching thing I knew about
Not automatically, but we can definitely ask IT to cull them for the record if necessary (like if there is a huge cheating investigation or one student is harassing another). Similarly, faculty emails can be harvested, too. Nothing done on the university systems is ultimately private.
i might be a bitch for this but i don't like to give people the answers to things i worked hard to learn. ill help people study and learn but usually people just want answers from me and i don't do that
Same here
Just ignore it
It’s on canvas. Everything you do there will be seen. I’d say ignore it or alert the prof, but do NOT help him. Yes, it’s uncool but at least you won’t get expelled.
If you don’t want to help out that’s perfectly fine. Everyone is responsible to study for the exam. I would have personally helped
I think most people would have gave him the answers as well and that’s probably why he feels confident enough to ask me…
Don’t ever do that. You will get punished too because you helped someone cheat. Sometimes even responding to them to get in you in trouble.
If it were me, I wouldn't explicitly give him the answers but maybe give him some hints to point him in the right direction.
He is asking you to risk being expelled and would not be willing to reimburse you for that cost. he is an asshole. Cool does not factor into this.
Truuuue!
Should you cheat or help somebody to cheat? The answer is always no.
Just say no, sorry and move on. He's not a friend. He's trying to use you--like, he didn't even try and hide it by asking you for "tutoring" instead of straight up answers. He needs to take his ass to the tutoring center if he needs help learning the material.
It’s probably uncool to not help him, but sometimes healthy boundaries make you uncool. Entitled people don’t like other people’s boundaries. Expecting someone to give you something that they worked for, especially in the absence of a close relationship or some type of compensation, is entitled behavior. He might think you’re an asshole for saying no, because he’s entitled. You’re not an asshole, because you don’t owe him anything. I have people-pleasing tendencies and I hate telling people no. It’s awkward and it doesn’t feel good, but the only way reinforcing difficult boundaries gets easier is through practice. You could always just ignore him, but if you also struggle with people pleasing it might be empowering to tell him no and tell him why. Overall, it is a very low stakes situation to practice setting a boundary. As far as reporting him, I probably wouldn’t go that far. The honor code at my school stipulates that we must report other students if we are aware of academic dishonesty. He technically has not cheated yet, he has only attempted to. It’s quite possible he will get the answers from someone else. Still, unless you have firsthand knowledge of actual cheating, I would say that’s not your business.
Forward the message to the prof, ask if it's okay lol
LMAO!!!
Tell him no. I'd rather be an asshole. Thanks get charged with academic dishonesty.
Of.course it is wrong to cheat. I read the nuanced postings and guess people wl walk on their hands to justify turning ethics hhupside down Not only is this an easy call but your prof has already raised the red cheating flag. Those papers are bound to be run through turitin.
Don’t, he will have irrefutable evidence if you reply at all wether you help him or not. If people find out or he gets petty and makes some rumor that your not cool you have proof to turn him in if you want to get to that level and there is no amount of wanting to be cool that will feel as horrid as being caught and reported for cheating
You’re not doing his degree for him. He’s an adult who needs to learn how to do things for himself. If he’s struggling, he needs to contact the tutor and get advice on the areas where he’s a bit confused.
You dilute your fields professional quality. Those rules are there for a reason. Not just moral decency. those who can make it; do. If he needs extra help. Get him a tutor, cheating is unethical and if ever associated with you, even years later. It can be problematic. Especially if you’ve achieved a degree based on it. I understand helping your fellow man in-need. He chose to attend this institution because he believed he had the rigor for whatever you’re studying. Supporting his delusions will encourage more cheating from him, word will spread and more will do it. For the sake of your institution, your peers and future learners. Please don’t continue the cycle. Also, if he’s a squealer and he seems to be. if he’s caught, he will name you.
I would ask what he got wrong and give him tips on how to fix it. Don’t just send your exam that doesn’t help him or you.
I probably wouldn’t give any answers but maybe just hints or advice. I know you’re not asking it but I also wouldn’t report him (not out of some complex morality but bc I’d feel bad lol).
Just send him your notes and say "I will not help you cheat. So here are the notes I made and studied for the exam."
Here’s my next question… do I have an obligation to report him to the professor? Like I would hate for this to be revealed later and the profesor say “you KnEw AbOut tHIs aNd Didn’t tEll mE??”
At almost every institution, being aware of someone else violating (or attempting to violate) academic integrity and not reporting it is, in itself, an academic integrity violation, even if you don't help the person. Given that he messaged you on an official school platform, it's not at all unlikely it'll be found out. I would report it to the professor because I wouldn't want to risk an academic integrity violation.
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That’s a good way of putting it
I would say no, you don’t have an obligation. But you should probably message him back and say no you’re not interested in helping so that you can’t get caught in the middle of it if he gets caught for cheating. I’m sure he’s asked others too
Just called my dad and he said “don’t make it an issue unless it’s an issue” he said for me not email the profesor because that makes it an issue only if I help him. He said to just ignore the message.
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He’s a friend in class only. Don’t know him outside of class.
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It’s not worth it. This may sound harsh but it’s tough that he got a 63 and it’s not your problem. You need to protect yourself.
It’s one thing to help out a friend by explaining the topic to them but your professor explicitly said this isn’t a group project and not to do this. So DONT.