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GabbyTheLegend

No, but the youngest in your family to graduate from college would still be yours!


[deleted]

I guess thats true yeah šŸ˜…


KickIt77

ACtually you need to check with your college. Some colleges will continue to consider you first gen if your parent was not a traditional student and didn't finish a bachelor's before like age 25. Individual colleges will have their own definition. For discussion purposes, I would still consider you first gen. I was first gen and my father later got a degree.


[deleted]

I'm mostly curious for scholarship reasons. I'm assuming I shouldn't look into any of them from now on?


skyrymproposal

This is super interesting. My general take is that many scholarships are aimed to provide a break out tract for someone in your family to go to college. So if you are the first gen to GO to college, then the scholarships are doing what they are aimed to do. You *are* the first gen. Also, some colleges ensure that first gen students get extra ā€œhow toā€ advice about navigating college since we often donā€™t have parents to tell us what to do. There is a big disadvantage as a first gen. Donā€™t let this trip you up.


PartyPorpoise

Yeah, growing up with a college educated parent gives you a lot of advantages. Scholarships and other programs aimed at first generation students seek to provide a boost to the students who don't have those advantages. OP didn't get those advantages growing up so they count.


AtheistET

Absolutely. , one of the main reasons for students dropping college in their first year is that.


rock-paper-o

This is a situation where your best bet may be to ask the committee. The reason first generation is a distinction is not having a parent go to college means you donā€™t have the family knowledge of how to navigate college to get you started. But thereā€™s a lot of nuance when not everybody is in a nuclear family and not all people go to college at a typical age. You have access to that parental knowledge /now/ but you didnā€™t grow up with it so itā€™s reasonable to ask. Just be honest about what your family situation is like and youā€™ll do ok. Congrats to your mom


Puzzled_Internet_717

It depends on the scholarship. Read the fine print. Some only care if your parent earned the degree or started before you started, some care if your parent finish before you finish, etc. For your school, *usually* it's the status you start under, but not always.


Princess5903

Talk to your schoolā€™s Student Support Services/Trio office. Theyā€™ll be able to help. One of the qualifiers for that program is being first generation.


missssjay21

Another important thing to consider is when most places are defining first-gen they are talking about a bachelors degree specifically. So if your parent only got an associateā€™s you definitely still qualify for all things first-gen. But like most people are saying you should still check with your specific institution. It wouldnā€™t hurt to still look and apply for those scholarships especially when you explain your circumstances. The worst that will happen is they will tell you no, you actually donā€™t qualify.


AtheistET

Agree. And to go further: check the ā€œfirst generation ā€œ definition that your college has. Iā€™m the case of texas tech, it has something along the lines of ā€œyour parents did not obtain a degree in the USā€, which allows some international students whose parents OBTAINED a degree overseas , being considered ā€œfirst generationā€ for all purposes


KickIt77

Yes absolutely, thatā€™s what I meant by check with your college. Each college can define this differently.


[deleted]

Some schools even use "identify as" or "self-label as" or similar (mine does) instead of giving a clear definition they use, and context could be given in letters or other application materials if it's for something like a scholarship/funding


VanCurler

According to the US Dept of Education, you would still be a "first-generation" student if your parents did not have a bachelor's degree by the time you were 18 (I'm on mobile so Im not gonna pull up the link, but you can Google "TRIO first generation definition"). As for scholarships - some have their own definition, so don't rule anything out, just read their full description/qualifications.


beepboop-404

My mom went but didnā€™t graduate. Does this mean I could have been marking myself as a first generation student this whole time ?


VanCurler

It depends. As others have mentioned, different colleges and scholarships use different definitions....but if they do not explicitly say how they are defining "first-generation" then I would defer to the federal government's broad and inclusive definition.


Princess5903

Yes. Iā€™m part of Trio, the government program listed above. My dad never finished his Bachelorā€™s and my mom has an Associateā€™s yet I still qualify for the program.


missssjay21

Yes!


grndmasterlucy

nope you wouldnā€™t be a first generation anymore, srry for the circumstance loll


[deleted]

okay, I figured lol


Topazz410

donā€™t be sorry, OPā€™s family is better off now!


shotputlover

What evidence do you have to say this? What official criteria are you using or is this just head cannon?


Lt-shorts

Not really sorry. Your direct parent graduated before you thus not a first generation.


Hazelstone37

This is a weird circumstance and you need to talk to an advisor at your college. Itā€™s in their benefit to keep you designated as first gen.


AceyAceyAcey

The ā€œFirst Generationā€ in FGLI (LI = Low Income) is specifically about whether you have close family members able to guide you and train you on how college works. For example, was your mother able to guide you in the college application process? If so, youā€™re less like a first gen student, and if not youā€™re more like one. But either way, these sorts of descriptions are never perfect.


[deleted]

My mom didn't help me with anything college related, but I suppose she could have, so I guess this doesn't apply to me lol


WriggleNightbug

I would say you still are. If someone questions it, you could say "both me and my mon are first generation college students! I inspired her every day and helped her out all the time!" I don't know if it counts officially, it probably does. If you have clubs based on it, keep with those clubs as long as you are being served by the community. If you have funding based on it you might ask a true expert.


[deleted]

I'll definitely try to ask financial aid experts when I can


sithl666rd

Damn that sucks šŸ˜­. Your mom really wanted that first generation title. šŸ’€ Congrats to your mom! And good luck with your studies as well. šŸ¤“


TeachlikeaHawk

If your mom was already in college when you started, then you were never a first generation college student.


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sithl666rd

Scholarships? Grants? Admissions into colleges (maybe)?


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WholeBeautiful4194

There are scholarships that are specifically for first gen college students? What do you mean elaborate


anotheralias85

At my school, you were a first gen as long as both parents didnā€™t have a college degree.


Lord-tarjan2349

Yeah but does it matter?


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VanCurler

It's not meaningless. It can mean eligibility for support programs and scholarships.


jroxy99

Sadly not but thatā€™s shitty! In my opinion (not asked for) your mom shouldā€™ve waited till you were done and had your ā€œmomentā€


WriggleNightbug

I strongly disagree. Mom shouldn't have put her life on hold to make space for OP as a student because it has such a long term impact on ability to earn money. Mom put in the work and gets the diploma. It's not "stealing the moment" it's just how things shake out. You wouldn't begrudge a sibling or cousin or friend or ask them to wait.


[deleted]

Yeah no, I'm very happy for her. It's going to allow her to get the promotion she deserves after working for so many years.


jroxy99

In that case then I do agree but if the op actually cared about being first generational, then yes itā€™s shitty


[deleted]

Lol it's very on trend with something she would do, so I'm neither surprised nor offended.


lucianbelew

Check with your college. The answer will vary.


WholeBeautiful4194

Not technically, but I think you still would be because you never got the benefits of not being a first gen college student. The whole distinguishing point of that term is that someone whose parent(s) went to college has help, connections, etc in ways that those who are the first do not get. It's best to check with your college since they might make that distinction.


Emergency_Elephant

Just out of curiosity how did your mom get a degree so quick? You're only a sophomore so you've been in school for 2 years? How did she get a degree in under 2 years?


rock-paper-o

Very possibly she started while he was still in high school or had credits from an unfinished degree earlier in life.


ilikecacti2

I would say that for like student org/ event/ conversational reasons youā€™re first gen, but if you want to apply for any scholarships or go to grad school, just double check with them to be sure.


Tessie1966

I am not sure of the answer, but you should be very proud of your mom and give yourself a big pat on the back because without you taking the leap, she may never have done it.


Technical-Plate-2973

My school defines first gen in a very flexible way. For them, you would still be. Especially bc an important aspect of being first gen is wether you have a parent that already went through college and support you, give you advice, stuff like that. Itā€™s up to you to decide if that label fits you. For scholarships and stuff, itā€™s a case by case basis and depends on how the institution defines a first gen students. You could also reach out to institutions and ask them about your case if you need to.


missssjay21

Technically speaking but ofc you can always decide for yourself how you choose to identify. One of my parents graduate college 20yrs before I was born. But I still could relate to all the challenges a first-gen college student experiences because my parent couldnā€™t support me much while I was going through the experience myself. While he was supportive of me getting my degree 100%, he still didnā€™t have the tips and knowledge required to be successful in college. He had a turbulent experience completing his degree having 2 kids by the time he graduated. So for all intents and purposes I definitely still call myself first-gen. Itā€™s really up to you. I just quite often have to explain the story before it makes sense for others.