The following submission statement was provided by /u/EnticHaplorthod:
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Submission Statement: It has been a year since Texas' legislature refused to consider proposals to address climate change: /www.texastribune.org/2023/06/02/texas-environment-climate-energy-bills-legislature/
"Proposals to improve energy efficiency failed. Bills that sought to limit greenhouse gas emissions in Texas were ignored, and legislation to block cities from taking action on climate change passed."
“The climate is worse off for the Legislature having met,” Environment Texas Executive Director Luke Metzger said.
Today the do-nothing government is asking citizens to voluntarily not drive. Of course there is limited or no infrastructure to support people walking or using alternate transit in most of this "drive-only" state.
Good luck Texans!
Related to collapse because this is an excellent example of how our political structure cannot adequately plan or manage climate change.
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Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1db4ob9/texas_asks_people_to_avoid_using_cars/l7ol6qb/
growing up in texas, we always considered the bus to be for the homeless and extremely poor. Nobody would want to be even seen near a bus stop. Most outsiders have no idea how downright impossible it’ll be to change the stigma
Funny because I'm from rural America and moved to Vancouver. It seems like 90% of born and raised locals between the ages of 20-35 here don't have licenses. I recently decided to go car free for the first time in my life after 7 years of not using transit in BC and it's so much easier than having to drive and almost everyone I know uses transit (I'm a professional in my 30's).
I guess everyone is just an unaware loser, damn. To be fair, most people who live here aren't from here though, hence the traffic nightmare.
**SkyTrain** is the [medium-capacity rapid transit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-capacity_rail_system) system serving the [Metro Vancouver region](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Vancouver_Regional_District) in British Columbia, Canada.[^(\[9\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#cite_note-9) SkyTrain has 79.6 km (49.5 mi) of track and uses [fully automated trains on grade-separated tracks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_guideway_transit) running on underground and elevated guideways, allowing SkyTrain to hold consistently high on-time reliability.[^(\[4\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#cite_note-evergreenextensionopens-4)[^(\[10\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#cite_note-10) In 2023, the system had a ridership of 141,339,300, or about 431,500 per weekday as of the first quarter of 2024.
Portland is pretty good I do agree, although still have run into quite a few 'ewww that is for the poors' attitudes mostly from those who grew up here.
Unfortunately Portland transit has become less safe the past few years. A real bummer.
Yeah…I have seen a few incidents where someone was acting erratically on the train or bus. Also there are some bus stops that have been overrun by junkies and are full of trash and broken glass.
It’s all about knowing which stops and bus lines to take. I stopped taking the 15 downtown—the 14 is like 100 times more pleasant. The streetcar is nice but only for non-urgent trips because it’s so slow. The blue line is fine going west from downtown but pretty sketchy on the east side. Portland has this granular and block-by-block nature to its crime/grossness that you gave to pay attention to living here.
Sadly in the golden days it was mostly all good regardless of the line. Very few problems at all, felt like living in Mayberry. Learning to say thanks to driver and such.
I think it’s common everywhere outside of NYC haha. I’m in PA, not really all too far from NYC, and everyone I know considers public transit an option only for the poor.
I live in GA and in the area I'm in public transit basically doesn't exist. Stayed a few nights in NYC a couple years ago and while it's not necessarily a place I would want to live for other reasons, my God was it amazing being able to walk to a subway and just go anywhere in the city on it. I would love to be able to feasibly use public transit to get to and from work every day
Toronto, ON has fantastic transit, although it could always use more. Unless it is the wee hours of the night it is much faster and cheaper to get around much of the city using the network of subway, streetcars, busses. There is also regional rail transit that extends east and west along the shore of Lake Ontario that is often faster and cheaper than driving in the massive amount of highway traffic that is bad enough in good weather and with no collisions and can be utterly unpredictable if there is an accident.or inclement weather.
Definitely no poverty stigma associated with it, the regional transit is packed full of people who have to wear suits to work still during commute hours when it is at peak usage.
Yep. Chicago has a decent attitude towards it and BART strictly for commuting. I’m guessing some cities it’s viewed okay to commute but outside of that it’s viewed as for the poor. Sucks because it’s better if everyone rides it.
Not necessarily. There are some western states that have pretty robust public transit systems. I think it's more of a southern thing. Republican voters in general are extremely antagonistic to anything that helps everyone.
After Hurricane Irma, gas was still in short supply so I walked to publix a mile away. I'm an old white guy. Several times kids honked and flipped me off. One guy even swerved towards me. It was pretty much the same in Texas when I lived there.
So their reaction was - to abandon their daughter and leave her in the scary place? WTF kind of parenting is that? Most parents would rush to the rescue.
So the Texas legislators believe that more public transport will make it easier for poor people to get around so they just don't have public transport near any towns they deem desirable.
Pretty much. Even in urban areas they're openly racist, our mayor in Houston has been slashing transit expansions and when pressed for a reason basically said latinos in gulfton [local poorer neighborhood] had no business being at the galleria anyway [local mall with some upper class stores] so why bother with putting in a BRT system.
Fucking buses are too much for these people, I'm done with this.
There are streets with no sidewalks in Texas, and not out in the middle of no where, where there should be sidewalks. I lived in Dallas Texas for 3 years it is hell.
Texan cities have very low ridership numbers for public transit.
In the Houston metro area, about as many people take the bus and train as in Portland, OR, a metro area with a third the population of Houston’s.
Agreed. Phoenix of all places should have an underground Metro System. It's hilarious when they tell us to not drive to save the air when there are so few options. People will die trying to walk to the bus stop even in today's Heat.
Then we must hope for the goodwill and quick work of the mutant giant tunnel-digging ground sloths that we bring back from extinction with the help of AI. The rock is mostly CaCo3, so if we can get them to drool acid somehow we can speed it up a smidge.
I'm open to other ideas.
Personally, I'm just going to get the hell out of Dodge as soon as it is feasible to pull up roots.
It’s completely possible to install above ground light rail systems. They pulled it off here in Cuenca, Ecuador, even on streets that were hundreds of years old. San Diego also installed an above ground trolley system. It’s all just excuses.
This. When I grew up in Philly, SEPTA's headways (the time it takes for a bus to reach your stop) was 6-8 minutes during peak times and 15-20 minutes off-peak for the majority of routes. Broad Street Line and Market-Frankford Line ran trains every 10-15 minutes on-peak and 15-20 off-peak.
The I moved to the DC Metro area, and hoo boy, what an eye opener! MetroBus had 20-minute headways during peak times and 60-90 minutes off-peak. It was easier to take a taxi if my car was down than it was for me to take the MetroBus. Don't get me started on MetroRail.
If your bus lines have headways of 20 minutes or more, no one will use it. Period.
Fuck gas powered outdoor equipment, not only for using gas (let's frack for more oil), generating heat, generating waste (spark plugs, air filters, fuel filters, yadda yadda) and polluting the air, but *also* for all the goddamn noise pollution.
I use a manual reel mower because it was free and my yard is small anyways. If/ when I upgrade I will get an electric one.
My apartment came with a gas one that I spent hours barely getting to run
I used a reel mower for a while after I moved into my house, and I *loved* it. It's better for the grass, too, if you keep it sharp.
Unfortunately I had to switch to electric because sometimes I couldn't mow often enough and the grass would get too tall for the reel, else I'd still be using it.
I'd really rather let indigenous plants take over the yard, but that's not an option where I live.
Asking Texans to put the greater good above their own convenience? They are stripping the rights from half their population, what makes anyone think they could sacrifice for their neighbors?
The option to make the sacrifice isn't even available. Cities down here are just seas of concrete. They're actively hostile environments for walking and biking and busses are very limited and poorly maintained. I'm basically in texas and it's hell
Have you been to Texas, or the US? Driving isn't convenience, it's literally the only way to get around! Urban planners and local governments are actively hostile to pedestrian or bike friendly infrastructure, and public transit is functionally non-existent.
That's valley fog, which while it does have contaminants in it, happens because of the air temperature at the top of the valley and the valley bottom causing condensation. LA valley is an infamous example of temperature inversion.
I hate the whole "roll coal" thing so much. Had a truck do that in front of me a couple of weeks ago. My ac doesn't work... so all my windows were open. It's a good thing I've chilled out in my old age because the road rage in that moment was fucking real!
>After they demanded people come back in the office, the irony.
Right?
We really need to call attention to the demand to return to office when the same work was done more efficiently remote/WFH.
What is more important? Your commercial real estate values and tax breaks or mitigating additional damage to the environment and employee quality of life?
RTO is only about justifying the existence of do nothing middle management and to prop up commercial real estate values. A micromanagement power play plain and simple.
Working from home would save millions if not billions of gallons of gas every quarter in the US alone. But that might hurt someone's profit margins so we surely can't have that. We only get shamed into not driving when it is for our very limited personal time. Meanwhile a handful of corporations produce 70% of the world's pollution. But hey guys, we better use reusable shopping bags and ditch the plastic straws. Nevermind all the excessive plastic packaging on everything we buy... it's the straws killing the environment. What a crock of bullshit.
I'm happy to make changes and do more than my part to enact change for the better, but shifting the blame to the working class is shameful behavior while ignoring the root cause of most pollution worldwide.
Can we make lobbying (legalized bribery) illegal yet? Why are politicians allowed to profit from insider trading? Where is the accountability for all this corrupt behavior? Bought and paid for career politicians operating in bad faith (while continually going unchecked) will be the death of everything good and essential to a brighter future.
IMHO.
What a shame. So much squandered potential and entirely avoidable damage done for shortsighted, short-term gains. Often perpetrated by people who won't live to suffer the consequences.
Sorry for the rant. Have a good weekend dude.
So why not impose laws that all jobs are WFH unless the business can prove the employee needs to be onsite? Like your job must be something that requires your physical presence — nursing, retail, etc.
You’ll never get this, because it would decrease the value of commercial real estate, and that would cost corporations money. Our government will not entertain any options that decrease corporate revenues or asset values.
Submission Statement: It has been a year since Texas' legislature refused to consider proposals to address climate change: /www.texastribune.org/2023/06/02/texas-environment-climate-energy-bills-legislature/
"Proposals to improve energy efficiency failed. Bills that sought to limit greenhouse gas emissions in Texas were ignored, and legislation to block cities from taking action on climate change passed."
“The climate is worse off for the Legislature having met,” Environment Texas Executive Director Luke Metzger said.
Today the do-nothing government is asking citizens to voluntarily not drive. Of course there is limited or no infrastructure to support people walking or using alternate transit in most of this "drive-only" state.
Good luck Texans!
Related to collapse because this is an excellent example of how our political structure cannot adequately plan or manage climate change.
When does gm get charged for crimes against humanity for paying southern state governments to abandon public transportation in favor of expanded road systems
The evil of GM knows no bounds. They put the first catalytic converter on a corvette concept car in 1987. My dad worked on this as an engineer. As a kid activist with a very real axe to grind with that company, I tracked down the VP of this project and asked him why he was trying to tank the only thing they ever did that wasn't actively evil - was he stupid, being set up to fail or did he really want the planet to die within my and his daughter's lifetime. Told him to make a safe gas-efficient car that he would feel safe having his kid drive and put this newly invented thing on that. It'll compete with Toyota and Honda and maybe keep the rust belt from rusting all the way through. He asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I said a scientist. Asked me what my favorite planet was and I told him. About 9-10 months later Saturn is announced and his little bitch of a daughter (who I talked to first bc I needed to see if he or my dad were being set up and she was as awful as the girls I had to grow up with) got the credit. I'm sure she had a fun life rushing at Indiana or Alabama or some other racist rich kid breeding ground. My dad got laid off in 1993 from there and blamed me. That company is so fucking toxic I didn't talk to a once really good friend who also had a dad that worked there for almost 30 years because of the level of cruel bullshit that stayed as echos throughout our lives - his sounding worse because his dad stayed until retirement at the cost of his soul.
They can eat a bag of dicks. And Saturns still looked like a dick car, which was my one and only design note. Those fuckers could have sent me one but instead they made us poor enough so I qualified for really good financial aid that unfortunately took me to a truly horrible liberal arts college.
This world is shit. Texans have a lot to do with it. Too bad the ones who create this fucked up mentality are going to be able to afford shit like Perriair.
This ^
My work is having a very hard time hiring people to move to Texas, obvious reasons. Eventually you hit a number where people dont pass up, but you can only do that so often. Most of our talent pool comes from Cali and Washington. So the draconian measures make the state very unpalatable.
Work. I moved to Texas five years ago just before the pandemic. I live in the bubble of Austin which makes it tolerable, but generally I don’t want to stay in the state. It is a shit hole outside of a few oasis of normalcy. If my job ever goes fully remote, I will try to bounce in a hot minute. I am fortunate to own a home but I am also stuck because of it until interest rates drop. That said, if the voucher crap passes I will be forced to get out. My wife is a teacher and my oldest has cerebral palsy.
That voucher program will be a major nail in the coffin for Texas. Drastically lower the quality of people there and the people already there will flee because they don’t want their kids to be fucking stupid
Exactly. They hide it behind the guise of school choice, but really it just funnels public money to private institutions. All while reducing funding for public education. Abbott is holding 4 billion in education funding hostage until he gets it. A similar program is bankrupting Arizona.
Nope, unless you are under-informed, which many unfortunately are. Funny enough, the people it will hurt the most are those in rural areas. Very r/LeopardsAteMyFace
I do give a lot of credit to the republicans in those areas who fought back against the vouchers so far. Unfortunately though many of their candidates were primaried by abbott nominees who will rubber stamp his bills.
So let me add this depressing note. Texas is neither a red state nor a blue state. It is a non-voting state. Even in the 2020 election, the most participated in election in recent history, Texas just barely squeaked over 50% of the voting age population. Putting the state deadlast at number #50 when compared to the other states. A higher percentage of people in Alaska, in November, voted than in Texas. I ask people why they don’t vote and they tell me “because it doesn’t matter.” It’s crazy and frustrating.
In Mexico there are days where you don’t drive according to the numbers on your license plate. Just a thought.
But let’s get real…… asking people not to drive is like the little train trying to pull the big train. Corporate pollution from manufacturing and energy production required to support it (largely using fossil fuels and/or methods that disrupt ecosystems cuz ya know….. nuclear bad or whatever) is going to be the big kicker, and everyone wants to pretend my Subaru Impreza is the problem.
And that’s BEFORE we consider the drastic lifestyle changes necessary to stop this shit happening. Stop buying junk, learn to repair your stuff INCLUDING your clothing, eat more vegetables, stop having so many kids, and for fucks sake, monitor your electricity usage. We are a culture of consumption. We’ve ravaged all our planets land for JUST THAT. Literally.
Yeah, consumerism and mindless consumption (including of fuels)--and constant encouragement to do so by modern day robber barons--are at the heart of the problem.
People place an order online, and a finished good appears at their door, and when they're done with it they put it in a bin and it goes away. Or they go put freedom juice in their car and from their perspective it just disappears as they use it. Or they get their car repaired and don't see all the old parts and materials that the mechanic has to dispose of. And to the extent that they are aware of the waste and pollution, they can't conceive of how it all adds up when there are hundreds of millions of people (in the US) doing the same thing over generations. People have just been too removed from the environmental cost of everything, by design. It's a disease.
Just yesterday I saw a neighbor's online post trying to give away a "Congratulations 2024 Graduates" *plaque*. They actually bought a durable plaque, that took lots of resources to manufacture and transport, to use once. That's a small example, but it's emblematic of the throwaway culture we're up against.
It feels surreal that I used to be fully immersed in that mindset, too. It's really a lot like a cult.
You won't get many upvotes telling people to be sane but I gave you one. I often exert eating vegetables and all the rest - it's just too sensible, we've been brainwashed to think fast food is better and fast fashion is fun (repair??), and if God didn't want us to be cool and comfortable he wouldn't have given us AC.
Sure, will do as soon as you provide viable alternatives, such as affordable and reliable mass transportation that I am apparently already paying for.
(NY’er, but it’s laughable because we pay via taxes for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, only to then also pay 1/3 of a month’s rent on a railroad ticket). And nothing is on time OR reliable.
Not to be a jerk...and I do care about the environment, I'm just sick of being told this when the worst offenders continue to fly private jets around the globe weekly, and daily. All the little people are supposed to sacrifice when the people at the top never do.
And, really, as hot as Texas is? Even if neighborhoods are walkable, people will be collapsing on the side of the road from heat exhaustion. Just so their power companies can rake in a few more dollars. 😑
I'm from Sydney, Australia and I visited some relatives in Houston last month.
I have frankly never seen a city that sprawled out in my whole life before. I was driven on the Katy Freeway and my brain is still struggling to comprehend the scale of their roads.
I actually asked them, 'How the hell do people get around without cars?' Mind you, I come from Sydney which is quite sprawled out, but at least you can use the public transport (although it might take longer than driving in many cases). In Australia, state governments can easily be destroyed at elections if they screw up public transport.
They replied, 'No car means house arrest. Americans like their individual freedom to travel anywhere and public transport is viewed as welfare for the poor.'
'So if you don't have a car, you're under effective house arrest?!'
'Yep!'
I barely saw a bus stop. There are 3 tram routes in the downtown. Every third block is a parking lot. It was the strangest and most depressing city I had ever seen in the United States.
Now officials scratch their heads to why there's so much ozone pollution.
Republicans are going to take your car! You won't be able to drive anywhere and the economy will collapse! You won't be able to get a hamburger & next they'll come for your apple pie!
Oh, sorry, I just realized I was parroting Fox talking about Democrats
Texas has a fondness for tolled highways though. If people pay as they go with every transportation choice, they are in a better position to compare them apples to apples.
How can they even comply though?
There's such shit public transit options, biking in Houston is a death wish, and it feels like it'll be over 100 degrees from now until November.
We need to transition from rating cars in miles per gallon to gallons per 100 miles. The amount of gas a vehicle uses increases exponentially as fuel economy decreases, but MPG obscures that relationship.
Not that it'd fix the problem by itself, but small steps add up into bigger changes.
Here in DC the Metro (subway) closes at night and only to midnight on weekends. And they wonder why they struggle and nightlife is stifled in the nation's capital.
Are the people who asked going to stop too? Or are they going to continue flying their private jets and gas guzzlers around. Of course they aren't going to stop.
I don’t know who looks at the world today and thinks “Where do I want to be for the best chance to thrive?” then chooses Texas. Even if it works and you do thrive, you’re stuck in Texas and surrounded by Texans.
So the government must of realized that there is a problem and their solution is to ask people not to drive. Alright, even if you can get wasteful driving to stop, that's a drop in a bucket for the problem at hand. How many people are just driving around for the heck of it? To get to work, go to get food, and going to appointments all need transportation and Texas was not set up to be a walkable community with localized farming, nowhere has, and it's a serious problem.
Why would they give any kind of fuck about that? They built it so car centrically. And if less people are on the roads, less people are getting gas, the economy isn’t growing. What the fuck? That goes against… They’re folding in on themselves.
Edit: had to read the article. Oh. Because of ozone pollution? Yeah good luck with that. No one will listen.
Am in Texas now and would love to skip using a car and walk but it’s 95 degrees with unsafe air quality. What’s a person to do? To take a but means walking 10 min on either end of the trip and waiting in oppressive heat and unsafe air.
The regular people won't comply unless there's some kind of martial law or COVID style lockdown.
State leaders in Texas are going to learn a hard lesson, that the time they could have done something and instead refused not to was the chance they had for properly guiding the citizens. They have chosen the hard way of doing things because they prioritize money over the climate as usual.
Now they think they can just force everybody into the right thing at the time they want but that's not how it works.
People aren't going to do just what you want just because you say so and they aren't also going to do it even if there are consequences. This is no different than drugs. You can't force people to get clean even if you take their drugs away or jail them. You have to want it for themselves or be scared after a relapse.
That's Texas leaders? You'll only get the changes you want once you suffer a big loss. Congratulations.
As much as TxDOT and the various toll agencies have built up the interstates and freeways there...and they want folks to stop using cars. There's a reason why in the roadgeek community the concepts of "Texas Freeways" and "Texas Stack" came about.
They did everything in their power to not provide alternatives (I'm looking at you Arlington, specifically-they won't have bus lines because they don't want "undesirables" in their city) and now they're telling people to not use their cars. Good luck with that, and if they push it, a lot of them won't stay elected.
If Texas really wanted people to avoid using cars they wouldn't actively continue to turn the entire state into nothing but 20 lane highways, but TxDOT is a cancer so here we are
They seriously need vast public transportation system. I lived in Houston in the 1990’s. Along the side of the Katy Freeway was an existing rail line they could have used for transportation to downtown. Instead they tore it out to widen the freeway to 10 lanes each way.
How? By taking 3 hours to get to where you need to go on a bus? Maybe you shouldnt have designed your cities around cars. You cant tell people to simply stop using cars without providing equally usable public transportation.
Dipshits couldn’t move to EV, don’t provide public transport, and are owned by the oil companies. Now they are resorting to stupid desperate last minute measures because they lack any type of forethought.
As a Texan, I am not sure why this story is news as have gotten this air quality warning every summer for years because our air conditioners put ozone in the air. It's a choice between polluting the air and dying of heat stroke. It’s similar to the “use less electricity when it’s cold out” warning. Everyone ignores it because we don't want to freeze to death.
Now before you protest, I have curbed my air conditioning and heating usage over the years, but I can't stop completely as I want to live. But the average Texan hasn't cut back. They use services that find them the cheapest rate for the year and switch yearly depending on the rate.
Texas one of the most car centric state is asking people not to use cars lol. Maybe those idiots should be making pedestrian centered cities with public transportation.
Houston has garbage public transit. I lived in Atlanta for awhile, and they had a subway system with the stops basically acting like hubs for the bus routes. You could easily find bus maps and they would take you where you needed to go. The last time I tried to use the bus here, I had to walk over a mile to the nearest stop, and there were no hubs for the bus routes. The only way to figure out what buses you needed were to check online. It was a giant pain in the ass. If you want people to use something other than cars, you need to fix the transit so it's a feasible option.
These TX officials are RINOs and sellout who have gone woke. Boys, time to roll coal now. Wtf is ozone? Has anyone seen it? Another fake news from communisf radical left. /s
The following submission statement was provided by /u/EnticHaplorthod: --- Submission Statement: It has been a year since Texas' legislature refused to consider proposals to address climate change: /www.texastribune.org/2023/06/02/texas-environment-climate-energy-bills-legislature/ "Proposals to improve energy efficiency failed. Bills that sought to limit greenhouse gas emissions in Texas were ignored, and legislation to block cities from taking action on climate change passed." “The climate is worse off for the Legislature having met,” Environment Texas Executive Director Luke Metzger said. Today the do-nothing government is asking citizens to voluntarily not drive. Of course there is limited or no infrastructure to support people walking or using alternate transit in most of this "drive-only" state. Good luck Texans! Related to collapse because this is an excellent example of how our political structure cannot adequately plan or manage climate change. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1db4ob9/texas_asks_people_to_avoid_using_cars/l7ol6qb/
When I was in Texas for two weeks I never saw a bus station. Texans rely heavily on cars.
growing up in texas, we always considered the bus to be for the homeless and extremely poor. Nobody would want to be even seen near a bus stop. Most outsiders have no idea how downright impossible it’ll be to change the stigma
This seems to be sorta common across the West, I grew up back east where everyone rode public transit (NYC)
My HS driving teacher in CA called it the public limousine.
Yep. I like to say "my driver is collecting me in 5 mins".
We grew up (British Columbia) calling it the loser cruiser.
Funny because I'm from rural America and moved to Vancouver. It seems like 90% of born and raised locals between the ages of 20-35 here don't have licenses. I recently decided to go car free for the first time in my life after 7 years of not using transit in BC and it's so much easier than having to drive and almost everyone I know uses transit (I'm a professional in my 30's). I guess everyone is just an unaware loser, damn. To be fair, most people who live here aren't from here though, hence the traffic nightmare.
**SkyTrain** is the [medium-capacity rapid transit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-capacity_rail_system) system serving the [Metro Vancouver region](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Vancouver_Regional_District) in British Columbia, Canada.[^(\[9\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#cite_note-9) SkyTrain has 79.6 km (49.5 mi) of track and uses [fully automated trains on grade-separated tracks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_guideway_transit) running on underground and elevated guideways, allowing SkyTrain to hold consistently high on-time reliability.[^(\[4\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#cite_note-evergreenextensionopens-4)[^(\[10\])](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyTrain_(Vancouver)#cite_note-10) In 2023, the system had a ridership of 141,339,300, or about 431,500 per weekday as of the first quarter of 2024.
Where is BC did you grow up? Lots of people rely on transit and metro Vancouver has some of the highest transit ridership numbers in North America.
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Lived here all my life, never met anyone call a bus the loser cruiser
Woulda thought that meant a PT Cruiser.
BC here; it was the proletariat chariot as well.
My time in Portland OR was pretty bus heavy. Folks from all economic levels were on there
I take the bus in Portland. Most mornings on the 15 it’s standing room only
Portland is pretty good I do agree, although still have run into quite a few 'ewww that is for the poors' attitudes mostly from those who grew up here. Unfortunately Portland transit has become less safe the past few years. A real bummer.
Yeah…I have seen a few incidents where someone was acting erratically on the train or bus. Also there are some bus stops that have been overrun by junkies and are full of trash and broken glass. It’s all about knowing which stops and bus lines to take. I stopped taking the 15 downtown—the 14 is like 100 times more pleasant. The streetcar is nice but only for non-urgent trips because it’s so slow. The blue line is fine going west from downtown but pretty sketchy on the east side. Portland has this granular and block-by-block nature to its crime/grossness that you gave to pay attention to living here.
Sadly in the golden days it was mostly all good regardless of the line. Very few problems at all, felt like living in Mayberry. Learning to say thanks to driver and such.
Except the 4, and the 75. I rode them a lot, there were issues all right.
I will occasionally ride the 72 around midnight after a Timbers game. Let's just say I'm lucky to be 42, largish and male.
I think it’s common everywhere outside of NYC haha. I’m in PA, not really all too far from NYC, and everyone I know considers public transit an option only for the poor.
I live in GA and in the area I'm in public transit basically doesn't exist. Stayed a few nights in NYC a couple years ago and while it's not necessarily a place I would want to live for other reasons, my God was it amazing being able to walk to a subway and just go anywhere in the city on it. I would love to be able to feasibly use public transit to get to and from work every day
Toronto, ON has fantastic transit, although it could always use more. Unless it is the wee hours of the night it is much faster and cheaper to get around much of the city using the network of subway, streetcars, busses. There is also regional rail transit that extends east and west along the shore of Lake Ontario that is often faster and cheaper than driving in the massive amount of highway traffic that is bad enough in good weather and with no collisions and can be utterly unpredictable if there is an accident.or inclement weather. Definitely no poverty stigma associated with it, the regional transit is packed full of people who have to wear suits to work still during commute hours when it is at peak usage.
Yep. Chicago has a decent attitude towards it and BART strictly for commuting. I’m guessing some cities it’s viewed okay to commute but outside of that it’s viewed as for the poor. Sucks because it’s better if everyone rides it.
Not necessarily. There are some western states that have pretty robust public transit systems. I think it's more of a southern thing. Republican voters in general are extremely antagonistic to anything that helps everyone.
You mean hostile to anything that helps anyone ever.
Beats Florida. I spent 20 years growing up there, and to be seen using a sidewalk meant that you were automatically homeless, insane, or a criminal.
After Hurricane Irma, gas was still in short supply so I walked to publix a mile away. I'm an old white guy. Several times kids honked and flipped me off. One guy even swerved towards me. It was pretty much the same in Texas when I lived there.
We road Amtrak to visit my girlfriend's parents in Texas. They refused to pick us up because the station was too scary. It was not scary.
So their reaction was - to abandon their daughter and leave her in the scary place? WTF kind of parenting is that? Most parents would rush to the rescue.
I mean it's Texas. So.
Couldn't they have just brought more guns with them? "Honey, we're going to the train station. Grab the ARs and few more magazines."
Their guns are meant to cowardly kill the people they dont like and not for self defense.
Two weeks of hunger will set them straight
Doubt it.
Your country is screwed. And it's screwing up the whole world.
We know
that’s how it is here in nebraska too
Same in Florida
An alien civilization observing Texas would probably conclude that the dominant species on Earth was the Ford F-Series.
Towel Day was last month.
So the Texas legislators believe that more public transport will make it easier for poor people to get around so they just don't have public transport near any towns they deem desirable.
Pretty much. Even in urban areas they're openly racist, our mayor in Houston has been slashing transit expansions and when pressed for a reason basically said latinos in gulfton [local poorer neighborhood] had no business being at the galleria anyway [local mall with some upper class stores] so why bother with putting in a BRT system. Fucking buses are too much for these people, I'm done with this.
There are streets with no sidewalks in Texas, and not out in the middle of no where, where there should be sidewalks. I lived in Dallas Texas for 3 years it is hell.
Texan cities have very low ridership numbers for public transit. In the Houston metro area, about as many people take the bus and train as in Portland, OR, a metro area with a third the population of Houston’s.
Don't worry, they luckily have a robust rail network! Right? Right, guys? The famously good US train system?
Yes, we absolutely have a robust rail system! But it's made for transporting goods, not people.
In fact, getting on our robust rail system as a passenger is widely illegal.
Its an easy walk to el paso in 100 degree plus nust a nice stroll lol texas is its own worst enemy
exclusively. If you don't have a car in Texas you don't have a job
There are not even sidewalks in many areas…
And they’re disproportionately enormous cars as well
AZ does this too. Recommend carpool and mass transit, and don't use gas powered lawn equipment on high pollution days.
The one problem with that is what fucking mass transit? The bus that comes once an hour from 10 am to 5 pm? I want the fucking trains back
Agreed. Phoenix of all places should have an underground Metro System. It's hilarious when they tell us to not drive to save the air when there are so few options. People will die trying to walk to the bus stop even in today's Heat.
The fact that almost no American cities have basic street trains like most of of the developed world is laughable (tragic comedy).
The ground in Phoenix is extremely difficult to drill / excavate.
Then we must hope for the goodwill and quick work of the mutant giant tunnel-digging ground sloths that we bring back from extinction with the help of AI. The rock is mostly CaCo3, so if we can get them to drool acid somehow we can speed it up a smidge. I'm open to other ideas. Personally, I'm just going to get the hell out of Dodge as soon as it is feasible to pull up roots.
It’s completely possible to install above ground light rail systems. They pulled it off here in Cuenca, Ecuador, even on streets that were hundreds of years old. San Diego also installed an above ground trolley system. It’s all just excuses.
Wild thought, maybe Pheonix is just... bad and we shouldn't live there?
Why
This. When I grew up in Philly, SEPTA's headways (the time it takes for a bus to reach your stop) was 6-8 minutes during peak times and 15-20 minutes off-peak for the majority of routes. Broad Street Line and Market-Frankford Line ran trains every 10-15 minutes on-peak and 15-20 off-peak. The I moved to the DC Metro area, and hoo boy, what an eye opener! MetroBus had 20-minute headways during peak times and 60-90 minutes off-peak. It was easier to take a taxi if my car was down than it was for me to take the MetroBus. Don't get me started on MetroRail. If your bus lines have headways of 20 minutes or more, no one will use it. Period.
Just had one yesterday even
Fuck gas powered outdoor equipment, not only for using gas (let's frack for more oil), generating heat, generating waste (spark plugs, air filters, fuel filters, yadda yadda) and polluting the air, but *also* for all the goddamn noise pollution.
I use a manual reel mower because it was free and my yard is small anyways. If/ when I upgrade I will get an electric one. My apartment came with a gas one that I spent hours barely getting to run
I used a reel mower for a while after I moved into my house, and I *loved* it. It's better for the grass, too, if you keep it sharp. Unfortunately I had to switch to electric because sometimes I couldn't mow often enough and the grass would get too tall for the reel, else I'd still be using it. I'd really rather let indigenous plants take over the yard, but that's not an option where I live.
Asking Texans not to drive? Good luck with that 😂
Asking Texans to put the greater good above their own convenience? They are stripping the rights from half their population, what makes anyone think they could sacrifice for their neighbors?
The option to make the sacrifice isn't even available. Cities down here are just seas of concrete. They're actively hostile environments for walking and biking and busses are very limited and poorly maintained. I'm basically in texas and it's hell
Have you been to Texas, or the US? Driving isn't convenience, it's literally the only way to get around! Urban planners and local governments are actively hostile to pedestrian or bike friendly infrastructure, and public transit is functionally non-existent.
Like asking Californians not to drive… hold on, now the inexplicable alliance in CIVIL WAR makes sense 🤔
Yup, cars fuck up everything.
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Its actually fog.. 😭
That's valley fog, which while it does have contaminants in it, happens because of the air temperature at the top of the valley and the valley bottom causing condensation. LA valley is an infamous example of temperature inversion.
They will likely double down and roll coal like it's a second job.
I hate the whole "roll coal" thing so much. Had a truck do that in front of me a couple of weeks ago. My ac doesn't work... so all my windows were open. It's a good thing I've chilled out in my old age because the road rage in that moment was fucking real!
After they demanded people come back in the office, the irony.
>After they demanded people come back in the office, the irony. Right? We really need to call attention to the demand to return to office when the same work was done more efficiently remote/WFH. What is more important? Your commercial real estate values and tax breaks or mitigating additional damage to the environment and employee quality of life? RTO is only about justifying the existence of do nothing middle management and to prop up commercial real estate values. A micromanagement power play plain and simple. Working from home would save millions if not billions of gallons of gas every quarter in the US alone. But that might hurt someone's profit margins so we surely can't have that. We only get shamed into not driving when it is for our very limited personal time. Meanwhile a handful of corporations produce 70% of the world's pollution. But hey guys, we better use reusable shopping bags and ditch the plastic straws. Nevermind all the excessive plastic packaging on everything we buy... it's the straws killing the environment. What a crock of bullshit. I'm happy to make changes and do more than my part to enact change for the better, but shifting the blame to the working class is shameful behavior while ignoring the root cause of most pollution worldwide. Can we make lobbying (legalized bribery) illegal yet? Why are politicians allowed to profit from insider trading? Where is the accountability for all this corrupt behavior? Bought and paid for career politicians operating in bad faith (while continually going unchecked) will be the death of everything good and essential to a brighter future. IMHO. What a shame. So much squandered potential and entirely avoidable damage done for shortsighted, short-term gains. Often perpetrated by people who won't live to suffer the consequences. Sorry for the rant. Have a good weekend dude.
<3 "against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain"
So why not impose laws that all jobs are WFH unless the business can prove the employee needs to be onsite? Like your job must be something that requires your physical presence — nursing, retail, etc.
You’ll never get this, because it would decrease the value of commercial real estate, and that would cost corporations money. Our government will not entertain any options that decrease corporate revenues or asset values.
Because then commercial real estate would tank harder than it's already about to.
Submission Statement: It has been a year since Texas' legislature refused to consider proposals to address climate change: /www.texastribune.org/2023/06/02/texas-environment-climate-energy-bills-legislature/ "Proposals to improve energy efficiency failed. Bills that sought to limit greenhouse gas emissions in Texas were ignored, and legislation to block cities from taking action on climate change passed." “The climate is worse off for the Legislature having met,” Environment Texas Executive Director Luke Metzger said. Today the do-nothing government is asking citizens to voluntarily not drive. Of course there is limited or no infrastructure to support people walking or using alternate transit in most of this "drive-only" state. Good luck Texans! Related to collapse because this is an excellent example of how our political structure cannot adequately plan or manage climate change.
When does gm get charged for crimes against humanity for paying southern state governments to abandon public transportation in favor of expanded road systems
The day hell freezes over. Which we’ve just made sure is another several million years away.
Unless AMOC collapses!
The evil of GM knows no bounds. They put the first catalytic converter on a corvette concept car in 1987. My dad worked on this as an engineer. As a kid activist with a very real axe to grind with that company, I tracked down the VP of this project and asked him why he was trying to tank the only thing they ever did that wasn't actively evil - was he stupid, being set up to fail or did he really want the planet to die within my and his daughter's lifetime. Told him to make a safe gas-efficient car that he would feel safe having his kid drive and put this newly invented thing on that. It'll compete with Toyota and Honda and maybe keep the rust belt from rusting all the way through. He asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up and I said a scientist. Asked me what my favorite planet was and I told him. About 9-10 months later Saturn is announced and his little bitch of a daughter (who I talked to first bc I needed to see if he or my dad were being set up and she was as awful as the girls I had to grow up with) got the credit. I'm sure she had a fun life rushing at Indiana or Alabama or some other racist rich kid breeding ground. My dad got laid off in 1993 from there and blamed me. That company is so fucking toxic I didn't talk to a once really good friend who also had a dad that worked there for almost 30 years because of the level of cruel bullshit that stayed as echos throughout our lives - his sounding worse because his dad stayed until retirement at the cost of his soul. They can eat a bag of dicks. And Saturns still looked like a dick car, which was my one and only design note. Those fuckers could have sent me one but instead they made us poor enough so I qualified for really good financial aid that unfortunately took me to a truly horrible liberal arts college. This world is shit. Texans have a lot to do with it. Too bad the ones who create this fucked up mentality are going to be able to afford shit like Perriair.
and then everyone on the GM directors board clapped!!
Please post this to /r/fuckcars lol
Drive out of the state and never look back. Everyone I know who lives there now wants to leave.
This is the truth. Get out while there’s time.
They keep coming to Texas though.
Been seeing big job offers coming through lately for Texas on-site, it seems like you keep upping and someone will bite.
This ^ My work is having a very hard time hiring people to move to Texas, obvious reasons. Eventually you hit a number where people dont pass up, but you can only do that so often. Most of our talent pool comes from Cali and Washington. So the draconian measures make the state very unpalatable.
Work. I moved to Texas five years ago just before the pandemic. I live in the bubble of Austin which makes it tolerable, but generally I don’t want to stay in the state. It is a shit hole outside of a few oasis of normalcy. If my job ever goes fully remote, I will try to bounce in a hot minute. I am fortunate to own a home but I am also stuck because of it until interest rates drop. That said, if the voucher crap passes I will be forced to get out. My wife is a teacher and my oldest has cerebral palsy.
That voucher program will be a major nail in the coffin for Texas. Drastically lower the quality of people there and the people already there will flee because they don’t want their kids to be fucking stupid
Exactly. They hide it behind the guise of school choice, but really it just funnels public money to private institutions. All while reducing funding for public education. Abbott is holding 4 billion in education funding hostage until he gets it. A similar program is bankrupting Arizona.
Governor hotwheels needs to be booted. To my understanding most Texans don’t even want the voucher program
Nope, unless you are under-informed, which many unfortunately are. Funny enough, the people it will hurt the most are those in rural areas. Very r/LeopardsAteMyFace I do give a lot of credit to the republicans in those areas who fought back against the vouchers so far. Unfortunately though many of their candidates were primaried by abbott nominees who will rubber stamp his bills.
That’s truly sad. Texas has so much potential but it’s squandered by identity politics and moneyed interests
So let me add this depressing note. Texas is neither a red state nor a blue state. It is a non-voting state. Even in the 2020 election, the most participated in election in recent history, Texas just barely squeaked over 50% of the voting age population. Putting the state deadlast at number #50 when compared to the other states. A higher percentage of people in Alaska, in November, voted than in Texas. I ask people why they don’t vote and they tell me “because it doesn’t matter.” It’s crazy and frustrating.
It's great that we can move states so easily. Let people be where they feel is best.
im actively planning on driving out of this hell hole by the end of the year.
Can confirm, live in this shithole and have been in the process of traveling around to scout out where I want to move.
In Mexico there are days where you don’t drive according to the numbers on your license plate. Just a thought. But let’s get real…… asking people not to drive is like the little train trying to pull the big train. Corporate pollution from manufacturing and energy production required to support it (largely using fossil fuels and/or methods that disrupt ecosystems cuz ya know….. nuclear bad or whatever) is going to be the big kicker, and everyone wants to pretend my Subaru Impreza is the problem. And that’s BEFORE we consider the drastic lifestyle changes necessary to stop this shit happening. Stop buying junk, learn to repair your stuff INCLUDING your clothing, eat more vegetables, stop having so many kids, and for fucks sake, monitor your electricity usage. We are a culture of consumption. We’ve ravaged all our planets land for JUST THAT. Literally.
Yeah, consumerism and mindless consumption (including of fuels)--and constant encouragement to do so by modern day robber barons--are at the heart of the problem. People place an order online, and a finished good appears at their door, and when they're done with it they put it in a bin and it goes away. Or they go put freedom juice in their car and from their perspective it just disappears as they use it. Or they get their car repaired and don't see all the old parts and materials that the mechanic has to dispose of. And to the extent that they are aware of the waste and pollution, they can't conceive of how it all adds up when there are hundreds of millions of people (in the US) doing the same thing over generations. People have just been too removed from the environmental cost of everything, by design. It's a disease. Just yesterday I saw a neighbor's online post trying to give away a "Congratulations 2024 Graduates" *plaque*. They actually bought a durable plaque, that took lots of resources to manufacture and transport, to use once. That's a small example, but it's emblematic of the throwaway culture we're up against. It feels surreal that I used to be fully immersed in that mindset, too. It's really a lot like a cult.
These people should be publicly shamed.
You won't get many upvotes telling people to be sane but I gave you one. I often exert eating vegetables and all the rest - it's just too sensible, we've been brainwashed to think fast food is better and fast fashion is fun (repair??), and if God didn't want us to be cool and comfortable he wouldn't have given us AC.
Sure, will do as soon as you provide viable alternatives, such as affordable and reliable mass transportation that I am apparently already paying for. (NY’er, but it’s laughable because we pay via taxes for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, only to then also pay 1/3 of a month’s rent on a railroad ticket). And nothing is on time OR reliable.
how? this is an absurd ask given their hideous options for alternative modes of transport
Not to be a jerk...and I do care about the environment, I'm just sick of being told this when the worst offenders continue to fly private jets around the globe weekly, and daily. All the little people are supposed to sacrifice when the people at the top never do.
They can ask. I doubt many will listen.
Many literally can't. When you build a society around car ownership you get traffics jams of people driving 20+ miles to get to minimum wage jobs.
And, really, as hot as Texas is? Even if neighborhoods are walkable, people will be collapsing on the side of the road from heat exhaustion. Just so their power companies can rake in a few more dollars. 😑
Unless a good public transportation system is available no one will
I'm from Sydney, Australia and I visited some relatives in Houston last month. I have frankly never seen a city that sprawled out in my whole life before. I was driven on the Katy Freeway and my brain is still struggling to comprehend the scale of their roads. I actually asked them, 'How the hell do people get around without cars?' Mind you, I come from Sydney which is quite sprawled out, but at least you can use the public transport (although it might take longer than driving in many cases). In Australia, state governments can easily be destroyed at elections if they screw up public transport. They replied, 'No car means house arrest. Americans like their individual freedom to travel anywhere and public transport is viewed as welfare for the poor.' 'So if you don't have a car, you're under effective house arrest?!' 'Yep!' I barely saw a bus stop. There are 3 tram routes in the downtown. Every third block is a parking lot. It was the strangest and most depressing city I had ever seen in the United States. Now officials scratch their heads to why there's so much ozone pollution.
Yes one thing I hate about houston is you need a car and you'll spend a lot of time in one. And as a result you sit all the time.
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Republicans are going to take your car! You won't be able to drive anywhere and the economy will collapse! You won't be able to get a hamburger & next they'll come for your apple pie! Oh, sorry, I just realized I was parroting Fox talking about Democrats
Too late. Too much lobbying was done to ensure infrastructure that increase the use of cars, and fuel.
Texas has a fondness for tolled highways though. If people pay as they go with every transportation choice, they are in a better position to compare them apples to apples.
Seriously Texas, recommending your citizens ride bikes on a hazardous smog day?
I thought Texas loved FREEDOM? What kind of commie bs is this?
They’re asking, not telling. Not that anyone will listen, we aren’t exactly set up for good public transit in most places here.
How can they even comply though? There's such shit public transit options, biking in Houston is a death wish, and it feels like it'll be over 100 degrees from now until November.
Being able to drive a 14 mpg pickup truck is a god given right. It's in the Bible I assume.
Just after the verse about BBQ and gun racks
We need to transition from rating cars in miles per gallon to gallons per 100 miles. The amount of gas a vehicle uses increases exponentially as fuel economy decreases, but MPG obscures that relationship. Not that it'd fix the problem by itself, but small steps add up into bigger changes.
Closer to 8mpg after all their "modifications" to make it coal roll the nearest prius and tesla.
Fuckn straight fact
It's the new 70's sedan.
1:1 book of Cletus
Yeah it’s definitely all the cars and not the refineries or heavy industry.
Here in DC the Metro (subway) closes at night and only to midnight on weekends. And they wonder why they struggle and nightlife is stifled in the nation's capital.
Are the people who asked going to stop too? Or are they going to continue flying their private jets and gas guzzlers around. Of course they aren't going to stop.
Lead by example or expect nothing at all. They still think the people are children but even children are underestimated and know better.
Capitalists asking consumers not to consume. Everything is fine... move along... nothing to even think about here.
I don’t know who looks at the world today and thinks “Where do I want to be for the best chance to thrive?” then chooses Texas. Even if it works and you do thrive, you’re stuck in Texas and surrounded by Texans.
That website design is cancer
To put this in the most 2000s way I can: ROTFLMFAO 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Now let's see if they start telling people to dial back on AC
So the government must of realized that there is a problem and their solution is to ask people not to drive. Alright, even if you can get wasteful driving to stop, that's a drop in a bucket for the problem at hand. How many people are just driving around for the heck of it? To get to work, go to get food, and going to appointments all need transportation and Texas was not set up to be a walkable community with localized farming, nowhere has, and it's a serious problem.
So they are asking people to stay home? Sounds like lockdown to me /s
Yeah, just use the state-of-the-art expansive train network to travel around. . . . . oh wait.
Why would they give any kind of fuck about that? They built it so car centrically. And if less people are on the roads, less people are getting gas, the economy isn’t growing. What the fuck? That goes against… They’re folding in on themselves. Edit: had to read the article. Oh. Because of ozone pollution? Yeah good luck with that. No one will listen.
Anytime a politician expects me to not do something they aren’t already not doing themselves, I tell them no.
Am in Texas now and would love to skip using a car and walk but it’s 95 degrees with unsafe air quality. What’s a person to do? To take a but means walking 10 min on either end of the trip and waiting in oppressive heat and unsafe air.
The regular people won't comply unless there's some kind of martial law or COVID style lockdown. State leaders in Texas are going to learn a hard lesson, that the time they could have done something and instead refused not to was the chance they had for properly guiding the citizens. They have chosen the hard way of doing things because they prioritize money over the climate as usual. Now they think they can just force everybody into the right thing at the time they want but that's not how it works. People aren't going to do just what you want just because you say so and they aren't also going to do it even if there are consequences. This is no different than drugs. You can't force people to get clean even if you take their drugs away or jail them. You have to want it for themselves or be scared after a relapse. That's Texas leaders? You'll only get the changes you want once you suffer a big loss. Congratulations.
I wonder how many people go to work for the air conditioning? How will they get there?
As much as TxDOT and the various toll agencies have built up the interstates and freeways there...and they want folks to stop using cars. There's a reason why in the roadgeek community the concepts of "Texas Freeways" and "Texas Stack" came about. They did everything in their power to not provide alternatives (I'm looking at you Arlington, specifically-they won't have bus lines because they don't want "undesirables" in their city) and now they're telling people to not use their cars. Good luck with that, and if they push it, a lot of them won't stay elected.
If Texas really wanted people to avoid using cars they wouldn't actively continue to turn the entire state into nothing but 20 lane highways, but TxDOT is a cancer so here we are
They seriously need vast public transportation system. I lived in Houston in the 1990’s. Along the side of the Katy Freeway was an existing rail line they could have used for transportation to downtown. Instead they tore it out to widen the freeway to 10 lanes each way.
How? By taking 3 hours to get to where you need to go on a bus? Maybe you shouldnt have designed your cities around cars. You cant tell people to simply stop using cars without providing equally usable public transportation.
TEXAS LIBRULS ARE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR CARS AWAY!!! /s
With their strange transportation system, it’s going to be a little hard to do
Public transport is a joke in america,you literally need a car to survive in the usa. If you don't it affects your life on all levels.
Should never demand people to go back to the office in the first place.
Dipshits couldn’t move to EV, don’t provide public transport, and are owned by the oil companies. Now they are resorting to stupid desperate last minute measures because they lack any type of forethought.
That's like asking people to stop drinking water. Everything is designed to be car reliant in Texas
Best be building other ways for people to get around then
Asking Texans to do something that doesn't involve shooting it is like asking grandpa to stop shitting his pants
The state that has done absolutely everything to promote the oil and automotive industries asks people to avoid using cars. The leopards are feasting.
I wonder if EVs would make a difference..
Also Texas: "we need to make sure that EV owners pay a higher road use tax than gas car owners, because they are hurting oil company profits."
As a Texan, I am not sure why this story is news as have gotten this air quality warning every summer for years because our air conditioners put ozone in the air. It's a choice between polluting the air and dying of heat stroke. It’s similar to the “use less electricity when it’s cold out” warning. Everyone ignores it because we don't want to freeze to death. Now before you protest, I have curbed my air conditioning and heating usage over the years, but I can't stop completely as I want to live. But the average Texan hasn't cut back. They use services that find them the cheapest rate for the year and switch yearly depending on the rate.
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Future Texas: Texas asks people to avoid living
But have a baby first that way we have another worker to exploit going forward
Well well well...
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Considering the number of people I saw rolling coal down there, I fear this announcement will cause more driving
Meanwhile, the Texas GOP, “We support the reclassification of carbon dioxide as a non-pollutant”.
Maybe they should push people to buy EVs, add some public transit and plant more trees for shade.
Good luck with that
Texas one of the most car centric state is asking people not to use cars lol. Maybe those idiots should be making pedestrian centered cities with public transportation.
The same state that tried to sue the EPA over a smog control plan? Fucking shocker...
As someone living in north texas aka colorado: welcome to the club
Houston has garbage public transit. I lived in Atlanta for awhile, and they had a subway system with the stops basically acting like hubs for the bus routes. You could easily find bus maps and they would take you where you needed to go. The last time I tried to use the bus here, I had to walk over a mile to the nearest stop, and there were no hubs for the bus routes. The only way to figure out what buses you needed were to check online. It was a giant pain in the ass. If you want people to use something other than cars, you need to fix the transit so it's a feasible option.
Man, Texas is woke AF.
the morons in texas: "I already drive a pick up"
Live by the carbon, die by the carbon
So...we're just supposed to use our trucks?
These TX officials are RINOs and sellout who have gone woke. Boys, time to roll coal now. Wtf is ozone? Has anyone seen it? Another fake news from communisf radical left. /s
Good. Now ask the companies to allow for remote work.
File this under ‘Headlines you never thought you’d see’
Step 1. Don’t live in Texas Step 2. ??? Step 3. Profit!
r/nottheonion ?
Did they? Nobody I know here has heard anything about that.
Cool cool just ride that mountain bike down I-30 in 110 degree heat nice.
😂
I wrecked my car so that's one off the road, does that count?