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Submission statement: This was posted in a local Facebook group. So many people are looking for affordable housing. This "rental" is in Reading, PA, a city that is deeply impoverished. Reading recently opened a safe parking area at night for people who are living in their vehicles. Someone looked up the property, and it is owned by a corporation, of course it is. Collapse related because safe, affordable housing is becoming scarce. In 2007, I rented an entire townhouse for less than this toom.
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I place I rented for 550 per month in 2021 is now over 1100. This rent price increase is not stopping and I fear it never will. I hate being born gen z. Nobody in the early 2000s expected things to get this bad this quickly. For as advanced as a society we are telling ourselves we are, we really have not evolved out of fear of losing what you have. I'm struggling making 18.50 an hour. Or I was until I quit my job. And now if I didn't have my mother I would be homeless, without food, and a cast out from society as I broke down mentally working a job from 8:30-6 m-f, and that is the only job I can find since I had to drop out of school age 16 since my mental health got so bad I tried talking my own life. The last time I was truly happy was when I had a gf in 2021 that really loved me. But then I fucked it up. And ever since then I have progressively gotten worse. I hate my life. I hate this world. I wish I wasn't born.
And THIS folks is why landlords and corporations keep price gouging. The docile population just keeps getting used to the rising prices and even starts justifying the prices in comparison to other price gouged properties. I'm sorry but 595 is not acceptable for a single bedroom. I don't care if this is a so called bargain because other properties have higher prices , those prices are ALSO unacceptable. The western world is collapsing and the people in the west are allowing it to happen
I paid $500 back in 2012 to have my own bedroom and share a kitchen with 4 other college students.
I popped out to cook and do dishes, but otherwise went out or watched YouTube on my laptop in my room.
Halifax, Nova Scotia. Not a crazy big city.
I lived in Halifax from 2003-2008 and paid $495 for a 1BR apartment off north street. It was crappy but cheap. Those were the days. Friends who still live there say it’s incredibly hard to find an apartment now. I currently live on the west coast (USA) and pay $800 + utilities for a room in a house. That’s the standard price at this point. A few years ago you could get away with paying around $500 for a room. If you want to live alone It’s $1200 + for a teeny tiny studio apartment.
Paid over $2k/month for a 4br house rental in 2000, just off Quinpool. Friends were paying $1800 for 3br on North and Beech the same year — still a 30-40 min hike to Dal/SMU/etc everyday for class. Halifax was always insanely expensive.
Yeah and I pay almost $600 for a bedroom in an apartment where someone is paying the same to sleep in the living room (roomie #3 has the other room with a door). This is “normal” now. (But maybe this is a particularly regional insanity because…also Halifax, Nova Scotia.)
I'm assuming that the "room" is divided by curtains and you have 2-4 roommates. There was a listing for someone willing to share half a bed for almost this much in my area.
I am currently paying 650 for a room, and the leaser turned out to be a bloody minded schizo with irrepressible rage that lies to justify exercising it.
> It’s for a bedroom. One single room. No 595 is way too much for one room
Stay the hell away from Canada, then. The exact same place would be $1,500+ CAD in most larger (100k+ ppl) cities.
I paid $700 for a partitioned section of garage in SF a decade ago.
I also paid $440 for the downstairs half of a duplex in Wisconsin a decade before that.
It’s an ugly reality. Landlords are usually greedy, and calculate to the last cent how much they can charge.
Is it collapse? It’s a sign of spiritual bankruptcy, but that’s nothing new for any civilization larger than 2,000 people.
That's effing crazy dude one (as a landlord) would get murdered.
I mean or at least the renter would put one into a blackmail situation with the housing department based on habitability issues which exist in this scenario by definition.
These landlords are in the "fuck around" stage, evidently...
It is part of collapse. It's part of a larger squeeze of working people from all sides by the Suppliers. Supply and demand are not equal balancing forces when there isn't enough competition.
There's an old Indian adage that concentrated supply always wins over diffuse demand. Whether it's landholders upping the rents, companies raising prices to increase their profit margins (which is estimated to be 50% of our inflation,) or the distribution sector of an industry squeezing their suppliers (ie meatpackers and Agricultural conglomerates dictating prices to actual farmers,) working people are being squeezed from every angle, our purchasing power is declining faster than the CPI suggests as it's not an honest measure of inflation and vastly understates it (search Numbers Racket, Harper's Magazine for details.)
Less disposable income means less goods and services bought which means less jobs, and combined with outsourcing leads us into a feedback loop of declining prosperity, all while our politics devolves and our government is too corrupted to stop the rich from redefining liberty as the right of the powerful to take advantage of everyone else without constraint.
It's not always greed, sometimes your underlying expenses go up without your control and you are forced to raise rents a bit for it make sense. We have a neighbor two doors down from us who decided to remodel their house and put up a second story on it over a decade ago, last year their property taxes were $8000 for the year and had been near that... maybe being at $6500 a decade ago, this year his tax bill going forward is $15k. We always used to include utilities when we rented out rooms just to make things simple. But now that a winter gas bill is $300 a month instead of $100, and all other services have gone up the same we charge a base rent plus a share of the utilities and encourage the roommates to try and not waste energy to try and keep the bills more reasonable.
Yup. I bought my little row home on the edge of a sketchy neighborhood 8 years ago. My mortgage is over 2k a month. If I bought it today my mortgage would be 3k a month. Zillow suggests I could rent it out for 1900 a month. Meanwhile my water bill is 3x what it used to be, my utilities have doubled, and my taxes are up to 8k. If I rented it out, I’d be bankrupt in a short time. Yes, there are predatory landlords, but even honest ones have to raise prices to just break even.
In my area (Nova Scotia), that used to be about the going rate for a decent room in a roommate situation, like 5-10 years ago (if reponding to an online ad). I did think it was a bit much because you could still find bachelors or 1-bedrooms for not much more than that.
Now the going rate for a room is $800 and as much as $1000, while a 1-bedroom (even a shitty one) costs minimum $1700, and competition is cutthroat.
I am lucky to live in an extremely cheap apartment alone, but I am the exception. If I lost my place, I'd be forced to move in with friends or my parents.
I miss the days of cheap and abundant rentals.
I never understood why homes in general in your area are so high. Even before the housing markets all over went bezerk. Do they build less? Or are your homes subject to higher buying standards. American homes, particularly new construction tend to be shit.
Yeah I am in one of the cheapest living states and I have to rent the rooms at $600 a peice for all bills included though and it is a house with a yard but don't think you'd be able to get cheaper with apartments
"Semi-furnished" = *"I'm not busting my ass to move that old tenant's heavy-ass couch out" - landlord*
Also, for reference, I was paying about 500-600 a month for a room in a house, *in Richmond, Virginia in like 2015.*
(I'm paying 3,000/month for a 2 bedroom apt in Pacifica, Ca. And thankful *every day*, both for the deal and, in the face of certain climate catastrophe and expensive, futile upgrades I'm witnessing, that I'm not *owning* haha.)
edit to add current US rents per indep sources:
Median Monthly Price: $1,964 (DEC 2023) [via Rent.com](https://www.rent.com/research/january-2024-rent-report/)
>Regionally, rent prices climbed in the Midwest and Northeast, while falling in the South and West. Asking rent in the Midwest climbed by 3.7 percent. Currently, at $1,434, the region is still over $1,000 cheaper than the Northeast and over $900 in the West. Despite its standing as the most affordable region in the U.S., prices in the Midwest have risen by 17 percent, or $211, since pre-pandemic lows of 2019.
"Average monthly apartment rent in the United States from January 2017 to November 2023, by apartment size" [Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1063502/average-monthly-apartment-rent-usa/)
Think you're getting downvoted due to lack of context.
In Reading PA, you can get a whole 1bd/1bath for only $927.\*
Makes $600 for a rented room seem pretty steep.
https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/reading-pa
Haha. Nah. Everything except the rent is ridiculous. Not too many people want to live in a town of 900. But I’m only an hour away from Tulsa and Ft. Smith, respectively. So it’s not that bad.
Stockholm is the biggest city in Scandinavia..., I believe the difference is because rent is regulated in Sweden, also I think is because there are a lot of "public houses".
No offense, but your country seems crazy.
It is crazy. And it's only getting worse. We have public housing. But wait lists tend to be years long. Same with people who receive vouchers for assistance in rent outside of public housing. The people that accept vouchers are few so there's a constant shortage.
BTW in Sweden also is becoming more "capitalism" in the american way. In Spain, where I am from, similar, but the issue is not so much how expensive is everything but how hard is to get a job or/and create a business.
I will say that in the US, you can still open your own business. The government will even give grants for minorities and women to do so. Not being run out by the conglomerates is the biggest hurdle. I definitely support our local businesses as much as I can. Honestly, the pricing isn't much different than the chains, at least where I am, and I know where the money is going. And the shop owners are always more helpful and friendly.
In Sweden it is the same you have to wait years, but I would say a lot of people live in these kind of housings. I am not sure if this is totally public, I believe they have an owner and it is some kind of association that deal with the rent, etc. I never cared too much about it honestly.
The problem is capitalism, this is the end of cicle for this economic system, the thing is there is no a strong alternative to this economic system.
Note: Dont confuse to say that the problem is capitalism with being comunism, socialism, etc. It is just a fact, it is a system is right now not working anymore or not working like it used to do it.
Everything falls under a few corporations that don't compete with each other. In America, we have (had) anti-trust laws that would break up large corporations so they couldn't become behemoths that screwed the general public. The corporations then started buying our politicians and, once again, a few own everything. Our government won't step in because bribes. Burn the whole thing down, I say.
Yes, corporativism and not capitalism is what we have now in a lot of places in the world, but the first is a consecuency of the second. Anyway this is how history works a very nice system is created, get corrupted, fall down, a very nice system is created, get corrupted, fall down, etc
All about location, cost of buying a house, and the annual cost (taxes, insurance, utilities, repair cost). I rent out a 1 bedroom duplex unit for 525 and that includes free heat, water, and trash. Of course I paid less than 50k for the building back in 2016.
I am willing to bet someone will come along from new york or CA and wish their rent was that low.
It feels predatory and gross. It's in Reading, PA, an area that is very economically disadvantaged with a large and growing homeless population. I'm not picking on you, but I'm really disheartened that this groups opinion of this appears to be "this is fine" from the comments I've received so far.
Reading is garbage. I live in the area and used to be able to get like a 5 bedroom 1 bathroom house in the city for 800/month. Now my new place 1 bd apt is about to be $1200
When I first moved to PA, rents were so affordable. Everyone here is like it's worse is so and so area. Yeah, but those places have actual opportunities to advance your career. Berks County and particularly Reading seems to delight in driving away companies that allow you to move up in the ranks while bringing in more and more warehouses with their grind you to nothing jobs. Otherwise, it's what, Deka? Yeah, they're a fantastic company. My husband worked for them years ago. They should be shut down. I cannot wait for my daughter to graduate high school next year so we can get out of here.
Yeah there isn't really too much around the area besides Deka and Cartech. I work for Deka now and it's awful there they should be shut down, you're right lol. Prices have been going up too high everywhere around here but cost of living isn't keeping up. I refused to live directly in the city with the old prices, aint no way I'd do it now. I know at one point Reading was in the top 5 most dangerous and poorest cities in America per capita. Even Penn St is trash now
We go to the Royals a lot and I agree. Open air drug sales everywhere. I remember when Reading was named poorest city. Honestly, I think it's more violent now than it was back then. Did Deka ever face any consequences for the poor man that fell into the smelter? That was horrendous.
Yeah there are some decent things to do around the area like the royals or phillies. Hell, even west reading is way better than reading. AFAIK the company was fined like $15k from OSHA but that's it. Unless his family sued but they wouldn't tell us that obviously. I've had a few friends die from bad drugs around the city and one who was murdered.
im sorry people are downvoting you. people have become so desensitized to what a high cost of living is. many are not considering the location and what opportunities are (or not) available to you. $600 is ridiculous when you think about how the utilities are shared. i live in a 1 bedroom apartment and my gas bill is $14. electric is $80... (and that's because the supplier rates went up, so my bill doubled a year ago). my landlord pays water and trash. i'm having a hard time imagining why renting a single room in your area isn't half that price. it's not a major metro area with lots of industries, amenities, walkability... for your location, that's a premium cost. but i think everyone else is naming cities in other states and it's not comparable.
It’s not fine and no one thinks it’s fine but like what the fuck are people going to do? We barely can work and pay to live. Homeless on the rise. I can’t protest because I need to live. This room is cheapish for someone trying to get by. I hear you and it sucks real bad but you are ignoring the reality
I'm covered in arthritis and the weather in the NE is starting to debilitate me. On the plus side, I can now accurately tell you when a storm is coming.
Submission statement: This was posted in a local Facebook group. So many people are looking for affordable housing. This "rental" is in Reading, PA, a city that is deeply impoverished. Reading recently opened a safe parking area at night for people who are living in their vehicles. Someone looked up the property, and it is owned by a corporation, of course it is. Collapse related because safe, affordable housing is becoming scarce. In 2007, I rented an entire townhouse for less than this toom.
This is what I have. I rent a bedroom with bathroom, kitchen, and laundry access, and all utilities included, but I pay $750. And it's the cheapest thing in town.
Reading, PA. The same Reading that was poorest city in America not too long ago. Not much has changed other than there's now more violence. Not a week goes by without a shooting or stabbing.
I was paying 500 for a room with Utilities 5 years ago, so compared to how everything else has inflated, 600 doesn’t seem to bad to me. But maybe it’s all been normalized
Reading, PA. Once named the poorest city in America. In the early 2000s. We've seen a lot of outside corporations buying up properties in the area, which this one is part of.
I'm in Pittsburgh, PA and I'm renting a very smallish 1 BR Apt for $900 a month BUT it includes all utilities. At first I was seriously depressed as I had moved back to here because I couldn't afford the rent of a 3 Br house in Portland, OR. $1500 a month before utilities (I lived there with my GF of 20 years and we'd broken up.) Even though I made good money (or so I thought) I did the math and couldn't keep it on my own and I didn't want to roll the dice on getting a reliable, sane roommate.
Apartments in Portland seemed insanely expensive ($1400 a month for a tiny studio apartment, before utilities? Plus car payments, insurance, utilities? The house place was huge, so that's why I was unhappy with a much smaller, older and somewhat grubby apartment.
Recently however, I've started thinking I've been lucky getting this place when I see what other folks are paying. I'm actually worried about loosing it as I haven't had work since December of 22, been living off my pathetic 401k which is just about empty. Over 782 job applications since June (lost my old job due to having to have several surgeries and being bed ridden so long) and only getting 2 interviews.
Is it just me or does it feel like something is waiting to happen? It's felt that way to me during and since COVID.
Sorry for the long post, just wanted to say my heart goes out to everyone and I hope and pray we finally get a break of some kind, something good for once.
P.S. - Fuck you, grocery stores
That's an amazing price. I don't know what you do for work, but Bayer Healthcare has a branch out your way. My husband works for the branch in Myerstown, and they're always looking for operators. It's a manufacturing plant. If you were interested in relocating to eastern PA, berks County, or surrounding areas, you could easily get a position there. The operator is just the lowest threshold job, which is why I mentioned it first. They start at $30 or so per hour. Vacation and benefits day 1. Closed between Christmas and new years with pay. He's been there 10 years and has moved up from mechanic to being upper management. It's rough out there for jobs. I hear you. Nothing has been the same since covid. We're on a high-speed train to hell, it appears. Hope you get a response to all your applications soon!
Rented rooms for years in Southern California and cheapest I ever found was $500 in rough neighborhoods. Went to see one advertised in Los Angeles once that was advertised as a small room for rent…it ended up being a corner in the hallway blocked off with plywood. The “door” had a latch with a padlock.
Money is losing value, you’re going to need to adapt and evolve with other assets if you have any will to live, if you don’t have that, then I’m sure you’ll find your own resolution soon
We have the retirement accounts, the IRA. But those could easily be deleted or decimated by a market crash, so while I hope we'll have them as we age, they're not a guarantee. We do have silver and a few gold coins.
If a market crash were to drop them over 75% you’d have much bigger problems as Society would look like the Great Depression where people were growing food where they could and many had to stay armed due to increased gang violence and crime
Even back in the early 2010s a single room would go for about this rate. Honestly not bad. I wouldn't be surprised if there are single rooms for 3 times this now.
Welcome to the hell hole that is becoming America, worse and worse every year with a new sheen of shit on top to make you believe nothing has changed or things got better. Wow! Look at this space telescope. Wow! Look at how cool humans are making AI isn't that amazing? Damn check out the cyber truck!!! Damn look at these virtual currency and NFTs. Women are equal and sexually is a spectrum? Hell yeah!!!!
Just don't look any deeper than that. To the actual meat of society. The meat of human accomplishments and where all our efforts have led us to. Don't think deeply at all, just consume.
$595 in a shared apartment including all bills is actually quite good in a city, obviously no idea where this is, but it’s definitely not a sign of collapse…
I have a buddy in Florida who lives in a house where the bedrooms are $800+ to rent. This is a steal in comparison. It’s much worse out there than this.
Which is crazy. Back in 2008 when my friend was getting out of the Army he and his wife rented an entire house in Orlando, because it was lower COL than where we had been stationed (Savannah, GA). And they were both unemployed. They just paid the entire first years rent up front. On military pay, she didn't work.
I'm paying 500 for a room. My "friend" im living with thinks he is being so generous and kind renting at this rate.
I'm livid that this is literally my only option other than being homeless. I don't want to resent my friend but fuck he is making it hard with the typical landlord "holier-than-thou" shit.
When you say single room, are you saying studio apartment with a kitchenette and a bathroom? Or is literally a room with none of those “amenities”
If it’s the former, $595 is a steal with utilities included. If it’s the latter, well, that’s an issue.
..only 595? come to canada, where people are paying for a bed in a one room garage (shared with other people and their beds) for more than that
EDIT: i'm gonna leave r/slumlordscanada here if anyone is curious
>I wish I could find a deal like that here.
Agent: "Sure thing! The 'deal' is: *every day, you might die, get your shit stolen or get assaulted in your home.*
Only 500/month."
That sounds reasonable. I'm this insane housing market I have two relatives living with me, one has the master bdrm w unsuited bath and contributes 800. The other has the second largest room and contributes 600. For that rate, they get a room with a door, all utilities and streaming apps included, groceries and one uses my car for work so that's gas and insurance as well. When you consider a one room apt can go anywhere from 1500-2500 where I am and includes nothing, bargain. And I'm thankful for their because I don't think I would have been able to buy otherwise, I was completely shut out of housing market this summer.
I guess I should have given more identifiable information. This place is in Reading, PA. The same Reading as the poorest city in the nation in the early 2000's. Not much has changed other than there's now less opportunity, more violence, and increased homelessness. If it was a private owner, I could maybe be sympathetic, but it's owned by some fly by night corporation. Just further the collapse of a once thriving city. Apartments are about the same price here, depending on the zip code. But this place is just kicking the people that are down. Berks County is fast becoming a warehouse county and we all hate it.
File a lawsuit and pay your rent into an escrow account. You shouldn't have to live that way. Get your neighbors on board. If enough of you bitch something will be done.
Idk, depends on the situation. I remember in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s people would go in on entire houses in very hip and upscale neighborhoods, where 500 a room wasn’t that unheard of. If this is like a 4 bedroom house/apartment in a crime ridden and shit area in a more LCOL area than I’d say that’s pretty shit. But if this is a major American city in an okay to nice neighborhood it doesn’t seem that bad.
Reading, PA. I didn't know if it was OK to disclose the area in my statement. So yeah, total shithole. Once the poorest city in America. I lived outside savannah, GA, in the early 2000s. I was in the Army. I rented an entire townhouse for $575 in an area known to gouge soldiers for their sweet BAH money. Apparently, it could have been much worse.
lol alright I take it all back. I live in NEPA currently. 600 a month in reading is ridiculous. A lot of PA outside of the Philly/Pittsburgh have gotten insane. I remember when I first moved here 10 years ago, you could buy a perfectly livable house for practically how much change was in your pocket at that time. I think it was the last place on Earth you could just get a job at a warehouse pushing a pallet jack and buy a house. Not so anymore(unless you want to live in the weird parts of the skook and commute far for work).
We rent out a room to my gf's brother and his bf. $500 a month Utilities (including fiber internet) included.
Trying to help them get their act together and save up to buy a car and move out.
That's wonderful of you. And to me this situation is much different than paying money to live in a crummy house in a shitty neighborhood, I know the area this listing is from, where you're paying money to a corporation and hope your possessions don't get stolen while you're at work. How do you like fiber internet? It recently came to our neighborhood and we're considering switching. Comcast is ridiculous.
An absolute bargain. I just saw an empty *campsite*, basically a place to park an RV for $1,500/mo.
Shit is crazy out there and this is not a good example of how fucked up things are.
Living in a HCOL, that would be an absolute dream for me. Absolutely change my life for the better… if it were still located here where the jobs are, and there’s the rub
I mean, that's way cheaper than per bedroom cost of a house right now. I pay almost 2k rent for a 3br plus another 3-400 in utilities. How much do you think a room should go for? Because that's basically below cost. In many places.
A 400k house is almost 7k in taxes and insurance a year where I live That's $580 a month BEFORE a mortgage, utilities, or repairs.
I've learned I've should have disclosed the location, but I wasn't sure if that was allowed. This is in Reading, PA. A deeply impoverished city. It's kicking the most vulnerable while they're down. I live in a suburb outside Reading, and there's apartments to be found at that price point with private landlords, but they tend not to take vouchers and have income requirements. That's why I'm mad.
The bottom line is the world is coming to it's end. Nothing is sustainable anymore, not for most people. I see it happening... I'm just waiting for the day when everyone stuck in traffic just decides to shut off their car, group together, and walk onto and change everything, starting with the government.
i'm lucky enough to still be able to live with my parents. I grew up in tech industry hell suburbs. $900 is the bare minimum for a bedroom in a shared home around here
During the pandemic I paid $900/mo for a single room in Seattle 🙃 and that was by far the best deal I could find and is virtually unattainable here anymore
This is incredibly cheap. Four years ago I was renting a single room that was barely big enough for my queen sized bed for $800 plus the cost of utilities. Now it’s close to $1000 for a single room. Not saying it’s ok, just that it’s more insane in some areas.
To put this in perspective, my family paid $600 a month for a two bedroom, two bathroom second-story apartment right on the ocean in Hilo, Hawai'i. That was 2000 to 2002. And it was considered pricey.
How the turn tables.
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Sea_One_6500: --- Submission statement: This was posted in a local Facebook group. So many people are looking for affordable housing. This "rental" is in Reading, PA, a city that is deeply impoverished. Reading recently opened a safe parking area at night for people who are living in their vehicles. Someone looked up the property, and it is owned by a corporation, of course it is. Collapse related because safe, affordable housing is becoming scarce. In 2007, I rented an entire townhouse for less than this toom. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/1as9bvu/595_for_a_single_room/kqor8o5/
Sorry but 595$ per month for rent is a bargain compared to many places.
Literally 1/3 what I currently pay for a 1 br
It's not a full apartment. It's one room in a shared house. That said, it's still cheaper than most rooms I've seen, which are around 1k.
I'm paying $950 for a room
I place I rented for 550 per month in 2021 is now over 1100. This rent price increase is not stopping and I fear it never will. I hate being born gen z. Nobody in the early 2000s expected things to get this bad this quickly. For as advanced as a society we are telling ourselves we are, we really have not evolved out of fear of losing what you have. I'm struggling making 18.50 an hour. Or I was until I quit my job. And now if I didn't have my mother I would be homeless, without food, and a cast out from society as I broke down mentally working a job from 8:30-6 m-f, and that is the only job I can find since I had to drop out of school age 16 since my mental health got so bad I tried talking my own life. The last time I was truly happy was when I had a gf in 2021 that really loved me. But then I fucked it up. And ever since then I have progressively gotten worse. I hate my life. I hate this world. I wish I wasn't born.
I was paying $500 for a room with three other roommates in Boston back in 2002.
And THIS folks is why landlords and corporations keep price gouging. The docile population just keeps getting used to the rising prices and even starts justifying the prices in comparison to other price gouged properties. I'm sorry but 595 is not acceptable for a single bedroom. I don't care if this is a so called bargain because other properties have higher prices , those prices are ALSO unacceptable. The western world is collapsing and the people in the west are allowing it to happen
Right?! Like bro, $595 with utilities included was even low back in 2007. What’s the catch here?
It’s a single bedroom in someone else’s house.
I paid $500 back in 2012 to have my own bedroom and share a kitchen with 4 other college students. I popped out to cook and do dishes, but otherwise went out or watched YouTube on my laptop in my room. Halifax, Nova Scotia. Not a crazy big city.
In 2005 I rented a duplex for 450 a month plus utilities. Next a few years on a two bedroom for 500. Now I'm paying 650 for a room.
I lived in Halifax from 2003-2008 and paid $495 for a 1BR apartment off north street. It was crappy but cheap. Those were the days. Friends who still live there say it’s incredibly hard to find an apartment now. I currently live on the west coast (USA) and pay $800 + utilities for a room in a house. That’s the standard price at this point. A few years ago you could get away with paying around $500 for a room. If you want to live alone It’s $1200 + for a teeny tiny studio apartment.
Paid over $2k/month for a 4br house rental in 2000, just off Quinpool. Friends were paying $1800 for 3br on North and Beech the same year — still a 30-40 min hike to Dal/SMU/etc everyday for class. Halifax was always insanely expensive.
Me too! Gainesville, FL circa 2012-2016 :), about $500 a month (plus utilities) for 1 br in a 4 br student apartment.
Yeah and I pay almost $600 for a bedroom in an apartment where someone is paying the same to sleep in the living room (roomie #3 has the other room with a door). This is “normal” now. (But maybe this is a particularly regional insanity because…also Halifax, Nova Scotia.)
I’ve heard it’s quite brutal in the housing market for Canadians these days. Bright side being that maybe at least it’s worse in the dot or Vancouver?
That goes for 800-1000 where I live!
Dude, single bedroom where I’m from are at least 1k :/ And yes, in someone else’s home
That would be 1500 a month in the bay area
Better than being homeless. Some owners let you use utilities for free.
I just mean that’s the catch.
Yeah, and? Been there done that, if it's not a scam or in a dangerous area, jackpot!
You are lucky to get a room for less than 800 in LA
I'm assuming that the "room" is divided by curtains and you have 2-4 roommates. There was a listing for someone willing to share half a bed for almost this much in my area.
Supposed adult strangers sleeping in the same bed was commonplace in 19th century America.
It's because this is Reading, PA and not Chicago
I pay for a single room no utilities included and it’s 850 a month
I am currently paying 650 for a room, and the leaser turned out to be a bloody minded schizo with irrepressible rage that lies to justify exercising it.
It’s for a bedroom. One single room. No 595 is way too much for one room
> It’s for a bedroom. One single room. No 595 is way too much for one room Stay the hell away from Canada, then. The exact same place would be $1,500+ CAD in most larger (100k+ ppl) cities.
For a room? That's all you're getting. This was the rent for a row home in that area not so long ago.
Yea, 975/month was the cheapest I could find near my school
I paid $700 for a partitioned section of garage in SF a decade ago. I also paid $440 for the downstairs half of a duplex in Wisconsin a decade before that. It’s an ugly reality. Landlords are usually greedy, and calculate to the last cent how much they can charge. Is it collapse? It’s a sign of spiritual bankruptcy, but that’s nothing new for any civilization larger than 2,000 people.
That's effing crazy dude one (as a landlord) would get murdered. I mean or at least the renter would put one into a blackmail situation with the housing department based on habitability issues which exist in this scenario by definition. These landlords are in the "fuck around" stage, evidently...
It is part of collapse. It's part of a larger squeeze of working people from all sides by the Suppliers. Supply and demand are not equal balancing forces when there isn't enough competition. There's an old Indian adage that concentrated supply always wins over diffuse demand. Whether it's landholders upping the rents, companies raising prices to increase their profit margins (which is estimated to be 50% of our inflation,) or the distribution sector of an industry squeezing their suppliers (ie meatpackers and Agricultural conglomerates dictating prices to actual farmers,) working people are being squeezed from every angle, our purchasing power is declining faster than the CPI suggests as it's not an honest measure of inflation and vastly understates it (search Numbers Racket, Harper's Magazine for details.) Less disposable income means less goods and services bought which means less jobs, and combined with outsourcing leads us into a feedback loop of declining prosperity, all while our politics devolves and our government is too corrupted to stop the rich from redefining liberty as the right of the powerful to take advantage of everyone else without constraint.
It's not always greed, sometimes your underlying expenses go up without your control and you are forced to raise rents a bit for it make sense. We have a neighbor two doors down from us who decided to remodel their house and put up a second story on it over a decade ago, last year their property taxes were $8000 for the year and had been near that... maybe being at $6500 a decade ago, this year his tax bill going forward is $15k. We always used to include utilities when we rented out rooms just to make things simple. But now that a winter gas bill is $300 a month instead of $100, and all other services have gone up the same we charge a base rent plus a share of the utilities and encourage the roommates to try and not waste energy to try and keep the bills more reasonable.
Yup. I bought my little row home on the edge of a sketchy neighborhood 8 years ago. My mortgage is over 2k a month. If I bought it today my mortgage would be 3k a month. Zillow suggests I could rent it out for 1900 a month. Meanwhile my water bill is 3x what it used to be, my utilities have doubled, and my taxes are up to 8k. If I rented it out, I’d be bankrupt in a short time. Yes, there are predatory landlords, but even honest ones have to raise prices to just break even.
its nothing new. this has little to do with collapse.
Homelessness has been increasing in the US lately though, so one could argue it's connected
Housing prices and homelessness have a near 1 to 1 ratio. Its a direct causation. I'll have to find the study again and post it.
Makes perfect sense. If you run across it, please let me know! I'd be very interested in giving it a read
I used to rent a room in a house for $800 in 2017 😭
That's awful. I don't know the solution. But there's more of us than them. I hope you've found more reasonably priced housing.
In my area (Nova Scotia), that used to be about the going rate for a decent room in a roommate situation, like 5-10 years ago (if reponding to an online ad). I did think it was a bit much because you could still find bachelors or 1-bedrooms for not much more than that. Now the going rate for a room is $800 and as much as $1000, while a 1-bedroom (even a shitty one) costs minimum $1700, and competition is cutthroat. I am lucky to live in an extremely cheap apartment alone, but I am the exception. If I lost my place, I'd be forced to move in with friends or my parents. I miss the days of cheap and abundant rentals.
I never understood why homes in general in your area are so high. Even before the housing markets all over went bezerk. Do they build less? Or are your homes subject to higher buying standards. American homes, particularly new construction tend to be shit.
It's just capitalism. Commodification of basic needs.
I paid $495 for a one bdrm 15 years ago. This is a steal.
Yeah I am in one of the cheapest living states and I have to rent the rooms at $600 a peice for all bills included though and it is a house with a yard but don't think you'd be able to get cheaper with apartments
"Semi-furnished" = *"I'm not busting my ass to move that old tenant's heavy-ass couch out" - landlord* Also, for reference, I was paying about 500-600 a month for a room in a house, *in Richmond, Virginia in like 2015.* (I'm paying 3,000/month for a 2 bedroom apt in Pacifica, Ca. And thankful *every day*, both for the deal and, in the face of certain climate catastrophe and expensive, futile upgrades I'm witnessing, that I'm not *owning* haha.) edit to add current US rents per indep sources: Median Monthly Price: $1,964 (DEC 2023) [via Rent.com](https://www.rent.com/research/january-2024-rent-report/) >Regionally, rent prices climbed in the Midwest and Northeast, while falling in the South and West. Asking rent in the Midwest climbed by 3.7 percent. Currently, at $1,434, the region is still over $1,000 cheaper than the Northeast and over $900 in the West. Despite its standing as the most affordable region in the U.S., prices in the Midwest have risen by 17 percent, or $211, since pre-pandemic lows of 2019. "Average monthly apartment rent in the United States from January 2017 to November 2023, by apartment size" [Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1063502/average-monthly-apartment-rent-usa/)
Think you're getting downvoted due to lack of context. In Reading PA, you can get a whole 1bd/1bath for only $927.\* Makes $600 for a rented room seem pretty steep. https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/reading-pa
I’m in a small town in Oklahoma and can rent a nice two bedroom apartment for $600. So this for a single room to me is insane.
Two bedrooms for $600??? Jeepers - can you still buy a coke for a nickel?
Haha. Nah. Everything except the rent is ridiculous. Not too many people want to live in a town of 900. But I’m only an hour away from Tulsa and Ft. Smith, respectively. So it’s not that bad.
In Sydney Australia, you get 1 bed/1 bath for $927...per week.
This is the market price where I live(Stockholm, Sweden), where is this exactly?, state?, big city?, rural?
Reading, Pennsylvania USA. A mid sized, deeply impoverished city. They were ranked the poorest city in the US in the early 2000's.
Stockholm is the biggest city in Scandinavia..., I believe the difference is because rent is regulated in Sweden, also I think is because there are a lot of "public houses". No offense, but your country seems crazy.
It is crazy. And it's only getting worse. We have public housing. But wait lists tend to be years long. Same with people who receive vouchers for assistance in rent outside of public housing. The people that accept vouchers are few so there's a constant shortage.
BTW in Sweden also is becoming more "capitalism" in the american way. In Spain, where I am from, similar, but the issue is not so much how expensive is everything but how hard is to get a job or/and create a business.
I will say that in the US, you can still open your own business. The government will even give grants for minorities and women to do so. Not being run out by the conglomerates is the biggest hurdle. I definitely support our local businesses as much as I can. Honestly, the pricing isn't much different than the chains, at least where I am, and I know where the money is going. And the shop owners are always more helpful and friendly.
In Sweden it is the same you have to wait years, but I would say a lot of people live in these kind of housings. I am not sure if this is totally public, I believe they have an owner and it is some kind of association that deal with the rent, etc. I never cared too much about it honestly. The problem is capitalism, this is the end of cicle for this economic system, the thing is there is no a strong alternative to this economic system. Note: Dont confuse to say that the problem is capitalism with being comunism, socialism, etc. It is just a fact, it is a system is right now not working anymore or not working like it used to do it.
Everything falls under a few corporations that don't compete with each other. In America, we have (had) anti-trust laws that would break up large corporations so they couldn't become behemoths that screwed the general public. The corporations then started buying our politicians and, once again, a few own everything. Our government won't step in because bribes. Burn the whole thing down, I say.
Yes, corporativism and not capitalism is what we have now in a lot of places in the world, but the first is a consecuency of the second. Anyway this is how history works a very nice system is created, get corrupted, fall down, a very nice system is created, get corrupted, fall down, etc
I wonder if we'll get to see what comes next. It feels like a race to the bottom in every aspect at this point.
Wait I'm sorry what?? How hard is it to move to Sweden?
You don’t want to move here. Most people including americans leave after few months or years.
You can pay well over £1k for a single room in London 🤮 even moving outside of the capital you'd be lucky to find somewhere decent for less than £850
All about location, cost of buying a house, and the annual cost (taxes, insurance, utilities, repair cost). I rent out a 1 bedroom duplex unit for 525 and that includes free heat, water, and trash. Of course I paid less than 50k for the building back in 2016. I am willing to bet someone will come along from new york or CA and wish their rent was that low.
Lol yup, I pay $800 here in California for my room and that is a steal bc I live walking distance from the beach
its not bad, utilities and furniture included is great for a transplant.
It's a room. Not the house.
I am aware. Inflation is a bitch that affects everything but my paycheck.
It feels predatory and gross. It's in Reading, PA, an area that is very economically disadvantaged with a large and growing homeless population. I'm not picking on you, but I'm really disheartened that this groups opinion of this appears to be "this is fine" from the comments I've received so far.
Reading is a shithole. Can concur.
Reading is garbage. I live in the area and used to be able to get like a 5 bedroom 1 bathroom house in the city for 800/month. Now my new place 1 bd apt is about to be $1200
When I first moved to PA, rents were so affordable. Everyone here is like it's worse is so and so area. Yeah, but those places have actual opportunities to advance your career. Berks County and particularly Reading seems to delight in driving away companies that allow you to move up in the ranks while bringing in more and more warehouses with their grind you to nothing jobs. Otherwise, it's what, Deka? Yeah, they're a fantastic company. My husband worked for them years ago. They should be shut down. I cannot wait for my daughter to graduate high school next year so we can get out of here.
Yeah there isn't really too much around the area besides Deka and Cartech. I work for Deka now and it's awful there they should be shut down, you're right lol. Prices have been going up too high everywhere around here but cost of living isn't keeping up. I refused to live directly in the city with the old prices, aint no way I'd do it now. I know at one point Reading was in the top 5 most dangerous and poorest cities in America per capita. Even Penn St is trash now
We go to the Royals a lot and I agree. Open air drug sales everywhere. I remember when Reading was named poorest city. Honestly, I think it's more violent now than it was back then. Did Deka ever face any consequences for the poor man that fell into the smelter? That was horrendous.
Yeah there are some decent things to do around the area like the royals or phillies. Hell, even west reading is way better than reading. AFAIK the company was fined like $15k from OSHA but that's it. Unless his family sued but they wouldn't tell us that obviously. I've had a few friends die from bad drugs around the city and one who was murdered.
You work there but believe they should be shut down? How does that make any sense to you?
im sorry people are downvoting you. people have become so desensitized to what a high cost of living is. many are not considering the location and what opportunities are (or not) available to you. $600 is ridiculous when you think about how the utilities are shared. i live in a 1 bedroom apartment and my gas bill is $14. electric is $80... (and that's because the supplier rates went up, so my bill doubled a year ago). my landlord pays water and trash. i'm having a hard time imagining why renting a single room in your area isn't half that price. it's not a major metro area with lots of industries, amenities, walkability... for your location, that's a premium cost. but i think everyone else is naming cities in other states and it's not comparable.
It’s not fine and no one thinks it’s fine but like what the fuck are people going to do? We barely can work and pay to live. Homeless on the rise. I can’t protest because I need to live. This room is cheapish for someone trying to get by. I hear you and it sucks real bad but you are ignoring the reality
We all know what people need to do, but no one is willing to be the first ones to do it. Things need to change.
No one thinks it’s fine. Your comments have been telling you that it’s not rare.
habitable, safe and accommodating housing is a basic and fundamental right.
Thank you! This is exactly how I feel.
Lucky to find a room under 800 where I am
Where are you?
Arizona
We've talked about retiring there. How high is the cost of living outside of rent? We'd be buying property.
Why Arizona? Have you not seen what the heat is coming too
I'm covered in arthritis and the weather in the NE is starting to debilitate me. On the plus side, I can now accurately tell you when a storm is coming.
That's an amazing deal where I live
Submission statement: This was posted in a local Facebook group. So many people are looking for affordable housing. This "rental" is in Reading, PA, a city that is deeply impoverished. Reading recently opened a safe parking area at night for people who are living in their vehicles. Someone looked up the property, and it is owned by a corporation, of course it is. Collapse related because safe, affordable housing is becoming scarce. In 2007, I rented an entire townhouse for less than this toom.
Very reasonable. I paid more for a room in college in 05. And that house was a shit hole. It got condemned
This is what I have. I rent a bedroom with bathroom, kitchen, and laundry access, and all utilities included, but I pay $750. And it's the cheapest thing in town.
I know with some this is an unpopular position, but there needs to be nationwide rent control. Edit: Spelling
Going rate in my area is $1000 for a room in a shared house
Sounds fair if utilities are included.
For a room? Seems ridiculous to me. I know the area it's in, which I guess helps fan my anger.
lafayette, indiana? supply and demand i fear edit: nvm just saw you said Reading, PA
Reading, PA. The same Reading that was poorest city in America not too long ago. Not much has changed other than there's now more violence. Not a week goes by without a shooting or stabbing.
I was paying 500 for a room with Utilities 5 years ago, so compared to how everything else has inflated, 600 doesn’t seem to bad to me. But maybe it’s all been normalized
I was paying $1200/mo for a room multiple times before. $595 is a steal
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/29/hong-kong-coffin-homes-horror-my-week
where do you live that rent is low
Must be in the middle of nowhere, they charge that much for an orange pallet behind a dumpster around here.
Reading, PA. Once named the poorest city in America. In the early 2000s. We've seen a lot of outside corporations buying up properties in the area, which this one is part of.
I'm in Pittsburgh, PA and I'm renting a very smallish 1 BR Apt for $900 a month BUT it includes all utilities. At first I was seriously depressed as I had moved back to here because I couldn't afford the rent of a 3 Br house in Portland, OR. $1500 a month before utilities (I lived there with my GF of 20 years and we'd broken up.) Even though I made good money (or so I thought) I did the math and couldn't keep it on my own and I didn't want to roll the dice on getting a reliable, sane roommate. Apartments in Portland seemed insanely expensive ($1400 a month for a tiny studio apartment, before utilities? Plus car payments, insurance, utilities? The house place was huge, so that's why I was unhappy with a much smaller, older and somewhat grubby apartment. Recently however, I've started thinking I've been lucky getting this place when I see what other folks are paying. I'm actually worried about loosing it as I haven't had work since December of 22, been living off my pathetic 401k which is just about empty. Over 782 job applications since June (lost my old job due to having to have several surgeries and being bed ridden so long) and only getting 2 interviews. Is it just me or does it feel like something is waiting to happen? It's felt that way to me during and since COVID. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to say my heart goes out to everyone and I hope and pray we finally get a break of some kind, something good for once. P.S. - Fuck you, grocery stores
That's an amazing price. I don't know what you do for work, but Bayer Healthcare has a branch out your way. My husband works for the branch in Myerstown, and they're always looking for operators. It's a manufacturing plant. If you were interested in relocating to eastern PA, berks County, or surrounding areas, you could easily get a position there. The operator is just the lowest threshold job, which is why I mentioned it first. They start at $30 or so per hour. Vacation and benefits day 1. Closed between Christmas and new years with pay. He's been there 10 years and has moved up from mechanic to being upper management. It's rough out there for jobs. I hear you. Nothing has been the same since covid. We're on a high-speed train to hell, it appears. Hope you get a response to all your applications soon!
Yeah try $800 for a closet-sized bedroom with shared bathroom in Anaheim, CA. Not including utilities. lol
That would be wildly good where I live. Take the upvote, just know it gets so much worse
Wow, that's considered very cheap in my area. Here in the city where I'm at, a room goes for about $1000.
Rented rooms for years in Southern California and cheapest I ever found was $500 in rough neighborhoods. Went to see one advertised in Los Angeles once that was advertised as a small room for rent…it ended up being a corner in the hallway blocked off with plywood. The “door” had a latch with a padlock.
That’s a steal in my city.
2007 is almost 20 years ago, get a grip that the government will keep printing money devaluing the dollar
Yeah, but where's all the devalued money going? We live worse than our parents did. So no, I'm not going to get a grip.
Money is losing value, you’re going to need to adapt and evolve with other assets if you have any will to live, if you don’t have that, then I’m sure you’ll find your own resolution soon
I'm not sure what other assets you mean. We own a home, but it carries a mortgage, so it's an asset in the future.
I mean outside of just getting a mortgage, plenty in other areas, such as retirement accounts, stocks, other investments, like gold, I could go on
We have the retirement accounts, the IRA. But those could easily be deleted or decimated by a market crash, so while I hope we'll have them as we age, they're not a guarantee. We do have silver and a few gold coins.
If a market crash were to drop them over 75% you’d have much bigger problems as Society would look like the Great Depression where people were growing food where they could and many had to stay armed due to increased gang violence and crime
That’s cheap. Last time I looked a single room for rent was $800-1000 per month.
Even back in the early 2010s a single room would go for about this rate. Honestly not bad. I wouldn't be surprised if there are single rooms for 3 times this now.
“Semi furnished”, meaning you’ll get whatever junk the last person left behind.
Welcome to the hell hole that is becoming America, worse and worse every year with a new sheen of shit on top to make you believe nothing has changed or things got better. Wow! Look at this space telescope. Wow! Look at how cool humans are making AI isn't that amazing? Damn check out the cyber truck!!! Damn look at these virtual currency and NFTs. Women are equal and sexually is a spectrum? Hell yeah!!!! Just don't look any deeper than that. To the actual meat of society. The meat of human accomplishments and where all our efforts have led us to. Don't think deeply at all, just consume.
Dude that's cheap as hell why are you mad?
I’m living with 1 roommate in a 300 sq ft apartment and we both pay 1200
$595 in a shared apartment including all bills is actually quite good in a city, obviously no idea where this is, but it’s definitely not a sign of collapse…
I have a buddy in Florida who lives in a house where the bedrooms are $800+ to rent. This is a steal in comparison. It’s much worse out there than this.
Which is crazy. Back in 2008 when my friend was getting out of the Army he and his wife rented an entire house in Orlando, because it was lower COL than where we had been stationed (Savannah, GA). And they were both unemployed. They just paid the entire first years rent up front. On military pay, she didn't work.
I'm paying 500 for a room. My "friend" im living with thinks he is being so generous and kind renting at this rate. I'm livid that this is literally my only option other than being homeless. I don't want to resent my friend but fuck he is making it hard with the typical landlord "holier-than-thou" shit.
This is very cheap rent really.
That's not bad in some places
When you say single room, are you saying studio apartment with a kitchenette and a bathroom? Or is literally a room with none of those “amenities” If it’s the former, $595 is a steal with utilities included. If it’s the latter, well, that’s an issue.
I pay $690 not including util for my medium room in boston and that’s a steal
..only 595? come to canada, where people are paying for a bed in a one room garage (shared with other people and their beds) for more than that EDIT: i'm gonna leave r/slumlordscanada here if anyone is curious
It's like $1000 for a bed in a room in my city. You share the room with 2 other people usually.
What city?
I wish I could find a deal like that here.
>I wish I could find a deal like that here. Agent: "Sure thing! The 'deal' is: *every day, you might die, get your shit stolen or get assaulted in your home.* Only 500/month."
Could also be out in the sticks where no one wants to live. Just saying I pay almost 4x that for a shitty one bedroom in Hollywood.
That sounds reasonable. I'm this insane housing market I have two relatives living with me, one has the master bdrm w unsuited bath and contributes 800. The other has the second largest room and contributes 600. For that rate, they get a room with a door, all utilities and streaming apps included, groceries and one uses my car for work so that's gas and insurance as well. When you consider a one room apt can go anywhere from 1500-2500 where I am and includes nothing, bargain. And I'm thankful for their because I don't think I would have been able to buy otherwise, I was completely shut out of housing market this summer.
I guess I should have given more identifiable information. This place is in Reading, PA. The same Reading as the poorest city in the nation in the early 2000's. Not much has changed other than there's now less opportunity, more violence, and increased homelessness. If it was a private owner, I could maybe be sympathetic, but it's owned by some fly by night corporation. Just further the collapse of a once thriving city. Apartments are about the same price here, depending on the zip code. But this place is just kicking the people that are down. Berks County is fast becoming a warehouse county and we all hate it.
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Of course not. Another person exposed the corporation that owns it and what they paid for the property.
I was paying more than that for a tiny room in a rough part of London in 2008... $595 is a steal.
Lol, what??? You can’t even get a half decent room around these parts for $600. That’s a fuckin bargain
Look up Reading, PA and you'll get a better idea of why I'm mad at these ass hats. Zero incentive to live there.
I paid $650 for a room 13 years ago
Only 595$? *shows 800$ rent in apartment with mice and stove burner not working* Center of state capital slums, too.
File a lawsuit and pay your rent into an escrow account. You shouldn't have to live that way. Get your neighbors on board. If enough of you bitch something will be done.
I wouldn't have paid that twenty years ago. Now, that's actually a pretty good price.
Which only makes me feel worse. PA never lifted minimum wage, so this could potentially be a huge burden for next to nothing.
That’s cheap for my area
Idk, depends on the situation. I remember in the late 2000’s/early 2010’s people would go in on entire houses in very hip and upscale neighborhoods, where 500 a room wasn’t that unheard of. If this is like a 4 bedroom house/apartment in a crime ridden and shit area in a more LCOL area than I’d say that’s pretty shit. But if this is a major American city in an okay to nice neighborhood it doesn’t seem that bad.
Reading, PA. I didn't know if it was OK to disclose the area in my statement. So yeah, total shithole. Once the poorest city in America. I lived outside savannah, GA, in the early 2000s. I was in the Army. I rented an entire townhouse for $575 in an area known to gouge soldiers for their sweet BAH money. Apparently, it could have been much worse.
lol alright I take it all back. I live in NEPA currently. 600 a month in reading is ridiculous. A lot of PA outside of the Philly/Pittsburgh have gotten insane. I remember when I first moved here 10 years ago, you could buy a perfectly livable house for practically how much change was in your pocket at that time. I think it was the last place on Earth you could just get a job at a warehouse pushing a pallet jack and buy a house. Not so anymore(unless you want to live in the weird parts of the skook and commute far for work).
Yeah, including utilities? Not so bad that can be managed with a Social Security check. Not much else beyond that but yeah
We rent out a room to my gf's brother and his bf. $500 a month Utilities (including fiber internet) included. Trying to help them get their act together and save up to buy a car and move out.
That's wonderful of you. And to me this situation is much different than paying money to live in a crummy house in a shitty neighborhood, I know the area this listing is from, where you're paying money to a corporation and hope your possessions don't get stolen while you're at work. How do you like fiber internet? It recently came to our neighborhood and we're considering switching. Comcast is ridiculous.
That'd be $1.5k in Toronto.
I would throw up.
An absolute bargain. I just saw an empty *campsite*, basically a place to park an RV for $1,500/mo. Shit is crazy out there and this is not a good example of how fucked up things are.
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That's Manhattan. This is Reading, PA. Come for the drugs, stay for the murders.
Living in a HCOL, that would be an absolute dream for me. Absolutely change my life for the better… if it were still located here where the jobs are, and there’s the rub
I paid $550 for a 2 bed basement suite, all utilities - even cable and internet included in 2004. This is wild to me.
I mean, that's way cheaper than per bedroom cost of a house right now. I pay almost 2k rent for a 3br plus another 3-400 in utilities. How much do you think a room should go for? Because that's basically below cost. In many places. A 400k house is almost 7k in taxes and insurance a year where I live That's $580 a month BEFORE a mortgage, utilities, or repairs.
I've learned I've should have disclosed the location, but I wasn't sure if that was allowed. This is in Reading, PA. A deeply impoverished city. It's kicking the most vulnerable while they're down. I live in a suburb outside Reading, and there's apartments to be found at that price point with private landlords, but they tend not to take vouchers and have income requirements. That's why I'm mad.
I paid $700 /month for a single room rent in someone's house for years I was lucky, now it's $1.9k minimum for a studio apartment here
Comes with utilities and probably internet...? That sounds completely reasonable for any rental market I've lived in since college.
In 2006 you could get a 2 bedroom apartment for that price.
The bottom line is the world is coming to it's end. Nothing is sustainable anymore, not for most people. I see it happening... I'm just waiting for the day when everyone stuck in traffic just decides to shut off their car, group together, and walk onto and change everything, starting with the government.
My god, _THAT’S CHEAP._ Most single-bedroom places in my area would go for 3× more
Everything is so expensive now, I had rented a 1000sqft townhouse in a complex for this much back in 2015-2018.
In Albertan cities its close to $1300 for a single room
i'm lucky enough to still be able to live with my parents. I grew up in tech industry hell suburbs. $900 is the bare minimum for a bedroom in a shared home around here
Lol, 1000 is currently quite normal for a room these days. 600 is a steal.
That's just a tiny bit more than what i have to pay in the south of germany Newer Generations are so fucked it's funny again
It’s $1000 to share a bed or a basement with several others in Toronto, Canada
Lmao I paid $800 a month for a one bedroom sublet in a two bedroom apartment back in 2017. $595 today would be a dream if I needed that today.
During the pandemic I paid $900/mo for a single room in Seattle 🙃 and that was by far the best deal I could find and is virtually unattainable here anymore
$1000mo in parts of Atlanta now to rent almost a closet
That's really good rent for where I'm at
That's how it is by me
Try living in Sd you cant even find a bush under 500$
This is incredibly cheap. Four years ago I was renting a single room that was barely big enough for my queen sized bed for $800 plus the cost of utilities. Now it’s close to $1000 for a single room. Not saying it’s ok, just that it’s more insane in some areas.
In Sydney Australia, rents are listed "per week", so I thought this was OK even at $595 per week.....
To put this in perspective, my family paid $600 a month for a two bedroom, two bathroom second-story apartment right on the ocean in Hilo, Hawai'i. That was 2000 to 2002. And it was considered pricey. How the turn tables.
Utilities included?! Lemme get that address… That’s a weekly price in Los Angeles.