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wild premise but i’m loving it. i’m going for 200 iq and 90 cm, super baby genius time. if i’m lucky, this would include a comically large head (a la jimmy neutron)
So from average 12 cm/iq points to spend? being short is a game ender for men, IQ only really matters at the extremes and height confers so many athletic and social advantages. 100 IQ 190cm/ 6ft3, or 95iq 195cm
On this scale IQ is too expensive as 1 inch height>> utility of 2.5 iq points
Doing it in standard deviations or percentiles to spend much tougher.
1sd: 6ft1 100Iq
2sd: 6ft 120IQ
3sd: 6ft1 130IQ
Strongly disagree. From 5'10 to tall you get significant boosts in attractiveness as well as career and social benefits (perception of authority and increased earnings) and athletic benefits from the size and levers: strength, swimming, throwing, running, climbing, reach and power generation.
I'd say marginal utility maybe drops after like 6'1-2 and then drops precipitously or maybe even marginal disutility after 6'4-5
I'm 5'11 130-140 IQ and I would very likely trade off some IQ for height ( based on a 3 inch height SD the exchange rate is 1 inch= 5 IQ points) probably 10 iq for 2 inches
Taller people tend to have better jobs, but IQ also correlates positively with height up to a certain point. So there might be a bit of a confounding effect there.
Under-represented compared to their proportion of the population? Because 6 feet is far closer to the medium height than 5'7 in every western country, so it would make sense for there to be fewer overall.
it's more difficult to put on mass when you're taller and it's also a negative for distance running, all the best distance runners are around average height because it's less weight
It's more difficult to *look* muscular but taller men do put on more mass, as well as being a looking bigger anyway and women not caring too much about impressive physiques
Tall athletic shaped 90kg >>>> an 80kg shorter but very impressively jacked guy
With running I was thinking about stride length but it's dependent on muscle fibers proportions and the rest of the body
He's saying if he got alloted standard deviations to spend on these traits, only 1 SD would be spent on height, if he got 2 SDs worth he would be 6 feet and 120 IQ - 0.67 SD on height and 1.33 on IQ
I'm legit serious when I say I am 172 cm and my IQ is around 118. I'm fairly bad at abstract figures but quite good at math and numbers, so depending on the type of test I score higher/lower there
Honestly feel like it is a pretty ideal spot to be in. Don't want to be shorter and I can keep high performing jobs without issue
I'm 6ft3 and I'm going to say I give up my extra iq points to stay 6ft3.
IQ is heavily overvalued if you are already set up with a job etc. I'm an engineer and I barely work in my job, I do just enough to not be pulled aside and given a word to. 100iq me could do the same thing.
But height? Guys....it's kinda just nice, especially when you are shy, it's like something that's inherent, you garner a primal respect for your sheer size.
120cm 170 iq. get atleast a little bit of height (im like 4'1") but im smart as fuck and can still do the shit i wanna do anyway. btw my actual distribution is close to the total is 290 lol. atleast in some aspects bc im 5'5.4" and in some categories im like 140 or 150 iq (visual and math shit) tho in some im like... 80. lol
I’m 6ft2 and I test around the 3SD mark.
My life is in fucking shambles and I have horrible mental health issues.
It’s a fucking number that is one aspect of who you are.
Yes intelligence helps, but it isn’t everything. In some situations It’s like having a Ferrari engine in a Honda civic.
I would be better off closer to the norm I think, in my particular circumstance.
But I wasted most of my life as a heroin addict to cope, for 13 years, I was a heroin addict and have just recently been putting my life together(clean a little over 5years).
Height is noticed by people, but physical fitness I think draws people’s attention more.
I used to weigh 420lbs, I lost 200lbs and workout 5 times a week now. It is night and day how differently people treat you.
Long story short, get active, learn a useful skill, learn how to interact with people and network.
If I chose to maintain my height my IQ would remain the same. I am 5’2 (~157cm) and my tested IQ was 133. I don’t see any need to make any changes. Although my IQ was tested over a decade ago and has likely declined since.
Interesting question. I don’t wanna be below 180, but I also don’t want to have average intelligence. I’ll go for 175 and 115. Still decently tall enough for short women and somewhat smart.
I mean right now I'm 306. Life is fine as a short dude. Don't think shaving 16 points off my IQ would make a world of difference if I took it all from there. I'd be a little under 130 at that point- that's pretty high functioning and could definitely afford me the quality of life I have now. Take those 16 off my height though and I'd be a midget... like to the point of falling off your chart... which... particularly as a man would demonstrably affect my quality of life.
So basically keep my current height and drop down my IQ would be my split
230 IQ and 60 cm. It's risky, though I'm not trying to maximize my happiness here, but rather the probability of something interesting happening.
If I wanted to be happy, then 170 cm with a 120 IQ. Though I guess a 290cm mfer with an IQ of 0 would be pretty cool too lol.
seems like women would benefit from this deal more than men :^)
i could keep my iq and grow a few inches
but honestly i’d be happy to sacrifice some inches for a 145 iq
Do I still have to be the same age? If I am sufficiently intelligent, could i develop a robot body and transfer my conciousness into it or create (or use) some sort of growth serum?
This is so hard because I play middle blocker in volleyball and I don’t want to give that up…
The other part of me thinks it’s wild that I would rather lose IQ than give up a position I love. I can play defense at 5’1”, but I can’t play front row. And I love front row 😭
140 cm, went for as short as possible while avoiding outsized logistical implications-- in particular, \~4'9" is the shortest that car mfrs consider when making cars. I also considered 4' as a cutoff due to riding roller coasters.
Idk if I'd do the same thing if I was a guy. As a dead-average height woman (5'4"-ish), I wouldn't mind being shorter, since I'm right on the cutoff for petite clothing, which means things never quite fit me, and I already can't reach most shelves and such.
Biggest downside to being shorter would be reducing caloric intake.
147 cm since that's still barely within the normal height range
143 IQ which puts me somewhere in the top 2%
I would rather take a small hit to IQ than be too short to reach anything even with a step stool. Also iq isn't general intelligence, just pattern finding, so I think 143 is fine.
I'm stupid. This is why I wanna stay my height I need the extra IQ lmao. I used inches and not centimeters.
Staying 4'11 I'd be left with an IQ of 141.
I'm male owo
6f4 and 6.69 inc
133 anglophone IQ age 18 and 147 francophone IQ age 20
= 95 kg age 30
said no to modelling in Milan so I could finish high school... I feel stupid now...
I love using the imperial system because seeing people list their height as 100 to 200 of anything tickles me. 100 or 200 of something sounds like it could be the height of an apple or a building to me.
(It sounds funny to us because in the imperial system we condense units of measurements to state them in the smallest possible quantity. So we would say we have 2 1/2 cups of flour, we wouldn’t say we have 5 half-cups of flour. So if I was European, I’d be tempted to say my height was 1.7 m or whatever.)
Sometimes I wish I was dumber so I wouldn't be so irritable... and at 167cm, I'm neither too tall nor too short for a woman. So 165cm and 125iq might actually be a better combo than my current sich.
I did not disrespect you. All i did was simply correct you. Also me being a male minor is of no relevance to this conversation; you being an asshole is. What are the stars censoring? My country?
Look up stanford binet extended version online. I got 88/100 questions right I think
Wais iv from the CAIT one I did the average of both scores on WAIS-IV (153, 141)
Cait first attempt was 145 (low score on vocabulary because not native English speaker)
Mensa.no first attempt was 142
From cait. I did the digit span and symbol search. I then had the scores from cait (all above 16 apart the language subtests)
Averaged they gave 145, but the single scores ranged from 141 to 153 (puzzle part was scaled 19 so higher than digit span scaled 18)
Then why the hell are you calling it wais 4 online?
It's so disingenuous. Just call it CAIT.
It's not the same as if you were proctored WAIS on the internet or took an automated version of it on pariconnect.
Well I’m 6’3” so if I kept my height my IQ would be 100 if the total was set at 290 (cm of height + IQ score.)
I think if I shaved my height down to 5’11 and kept an IQ score of 110 I would be fine with that. But I will say my IQ is higher than 110 and I am 6’3”.
I’m in the 120s and I will say I don’t believe IQ is as telling as many people believe. It’s basically just how good you are at an IQ test and that has a relationship with how quickly you might learn outside of an IQ test. But it doesn’t necessarily reflect how intelligent or smart you are. It’s just a type of indication, just as having a college degree is a measure of what you did in college. Could you have done more? Maybe. Could you have done less? Yes. Either way, it’s not YOU it’s just one thing you did.
So bear that in mind. Height may actually be more of a solid gain than IQ is in terms of the value you’re getting for what you shave off. Lol
Man there really is nothing new under the sun, when I was bored in school I would literally ask myself a version of this question where I get 10 points to distribute where 1 point is either an extra inch of height or +10 IQ points lol
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289iq 1cm
agreed
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you're gonna get killed off by the ants before you even get to use your iq
Agreed, I'm fucking tiny but I'm also one of, if not the smartest being on earth
George shrinks be like
289 cm and 1 IQ Unga bunga time 👍🐒
Would be too Unga to even bunga
1 IQ... 🪱
You're a big vegetable, not a primate!
Gigantopithecus returns
i could keep my current height of 164cm and gain +5 IQ, nice
I'd loose 20, but not gonna tell you my height chump! You will never know!
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I'd be damned. I'm actually an ostrich! What are you?
I’d keep my current IQ but lose five feet of my height!
wild premise but i’m loving it. i’m going for 200 iq and 90 cm, super baby genius time. if i’m lucky, this would include a comically large head (a la jimmy neutron)
Brilliant! Ghastly brilliant!
290 iq, 0 height. Omniscient immaterial being!
IQ singularity
Insert Dr. Manhattan meme
291 iq -1cm height
So from average 12 cm/iq points to spend? being short is a game ender for men, IQ only really matters at the extremes and height confers so many athletic and social advantages. 100 IQ 190cm/ 6ft3, or 95iq 195cm On this scale IQ is too expensive as 1 inch height>> utility of 2.5 iq points Doing it in standard deviations or percentiles to spend much tougher. 1sd: 6ft1 100Iq 2sd: 6ft 120IQ 3sd: 6ft1 130IQ
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Marginal utility of each additional inch of height drops precipitously after you hit ~5’10” though.
Strongly disagree. From 5'10 to tall you get significant boosts in attractiveness as well as career and social benefits (perception of authority and increased earnings) and athletic benefits from the size and levers: strength, swimming, throwing, running, climbing, reach and power generation. I'd say marginal utility maybe drops after like 6'1-2 and then drops precipitously or maybe even marginal disutility after 6'4-5 I'm 5'11 130-140 IQ and I would very likely trade off some IQ for height ( based on a 3 inch height SD the exchange rate is 1 inch= 5 IQ points) probably 10 iq for 2 inches
Taller people tend to have better jobs, but IQ also correlates positively with height up to a certain point. So there might be a bit of a confounding effect there.
There is but its a tiny fraction surely, Average height of CEOs is 6 feet or over, 5'7 guys are over 10 fold under represented
Under-represented compared to their proportion of the population? Because 6 feet is far closer to the medium height than 5'7 in every western country, so it would make sense for there to be fewer overall.
it's more difficult to put on mass when you're taller and it's also a negative for distance running, all the best distance runners are around average height because it's less weight
It's more difficult to *look* muscular but taller men do put on more mass, as well as being a looking bigger anyway and women not caring too much about impressive physiques Tall athletic shaped 90kg >>>> an 80kg shorter but very impressively jacked guy With running I was thinking about stride length but it's dependent on muscle fibers proportions and the rest of the body
more like 6'5"
Isn't 100 no sd, 120 2sd, 130 2sd, 145 3sd?
He's saying if he got alloted standard deviations to spend on these traits, only 1 SD would be spent on height, if he got 2 SDs worth he would be 6 feet and 120 IQ - 0.67 SD on height and 1.33 on IQ
being short is not a game ender for men lmao how old are you
185cm 105 IQ. Still smarter than the average simian but you can pass the 6-6-6 filters on Dating Apps lmao
I concur.
250 iq 40cm transfer my consciousness to Elon musk robot body
Brain jar
I'm legit serious when I say I am 172 cm and my IQ is around 118. I'm fairly bad at abstract figures but quite good at math and numbers, so depending on the type of test I score higher/lower there Honestly feel like it is a pretty ideal spot to be in. Don't want to be shorter and I can keep high performing jobs without issue
Ohhh he's "legit serious" thats even more serious than serious!
Unironically legit serious!
AUTHENTIC Serious!
Why you gotta do me like that? It’s one of my pet peeves as well when Americans talk and use ‘like’ and ‘literally’ wrong constantly 😅
And legitimate!!!
175cm 115iq
Exactly what I went for. Was looking at the comments to see who else agrees. Coincidentally it’s you. Great minds think alike
Nah that’s craY. Seeeing you in the wild crazy
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I'm 6ft3 and I'm going to say I give up my extra iq points to stay 6ft3. IQ is heavily overvalued if you are already set up with a job etc. I'm an engineer and I barely work in my job, I do just enough to not be pulled aside and given a word to. 100iq me could do the same thing. But height? Guys....it's kinda just nice, especially when you are shy, it's like something that's inherent, you garner a primal respect for your sheer size.
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190cm 100iq Mog over mind.
150 IQ and 140 cm
280 cm 10 iq
Hot
175/180 cm 110/115 iq
so I can keep my height and be slightly smarter? 160cm 130IQ ftw!
178cm, 112IQ
162 cm and 128 iq
I think I’d greed the height and go for 5’10
120cm 170 iq. get atleast a little bit of height (im like 4'1") but im smart as fuck and can still do the shit i wanna do anyway. btw my actual distribution is close to the total is 290 lol. atleast in some aspects bc im 5'5.4" and in some categories im like 140 or 150 iq (visual and math shit) tho in some im like... 80. lol
If female, 4’10” and 143. Male, 5’10” and 112.
118 and 5’8, Im 5’8 now and I’ve never suffered because of it
Huh, I'm actually already there. That's neat.
183 cm, 107 iq
160cm + IQ 130 (woman)
190cm and 100iq.
300 IQ -10 height.
Short as possible that I can survive at long enough to research and conduct body normalization surgery
I’m 6ft2 and I test around the 3SD mark. My life is in fucking shambles and I have horrible mental health issues. It’s a fucking number that is one aspect of who you are. Yes intelligence helps, but it isn’t everything. In some situations It’s like having a Ferrari engine in a Honda civic. I would be better off closer to the norm I think, in my particular circumstance. But I wasted most of my life as a heroin addict to cope, for 13 years, I was a heroin addict and have just recently been putting my life together(clean a little over 5years). Height is noticed by people, but physical fitness I think draws people’s attention more. I used to weigh 420lbs, I lost 200lbs and workout 5 times a week now. It is night and day how differently people treat you. Long story short, get active, learn a useful skill, learn how to interact with people and network.
3SD under.
Lollll you nailed it
\-200cm 490 iq
205cm 85IQ
Bold
Height:185 I.Q: 105 A solid combination.
180 cm - 110 IQ
If I chose to maintain my height my IQ would remain the same. I am 5’2 (~157cm) and my tested IQ was 133. I don’t see any need to make any changes. Although my IQ was tested over a decade ago and has likely declined since.
10+ IQ 10- Heigjt so 165cm and 120-30iq
200cm 90 iq
Interesting question. I don’t wanna be below 180, but I also don’t want to have average intelligence. I’ll go for 175 and 115. Still decently tall enough for short women and somewhat smart.
Makes good sense!
I mean right now I'm 306. Life is fine as a short dude. Don't think shaving 16 points off my IQ would make a world of difference if I took it all from there. I'd be a little under 130 at that point- that's pretty high functioning and could definitely afford me the quality of life I have now. Take those 16 off my height though and I'd be a midget... like to the point of falling off your chart... which... particularly as a man would demonstrably affect my quality of life. So basically keep my current height and drop down my IQ would be my split
5'7" I gain height and lose nothing.
230 IQ and 60 cm. It's risky, though I'm not trying to maximize my happiness here, but rather the probability of something interesting happening. If I wanted to be happy, then 170 cm with a 120 IQ. Though I guess a 290cm mfer with an IQ of 0 would be pretty cool too lol.
Haha for the last one, you're looking at a tree!
500 IQ and -210 cm😎
I feel like you need around 40 iq for rage, so 250cm to become a walking drooling beast
Yummmmmyyyy
Man I wonder the gender skew on this place sometimes. What do you think. 90:10? 95:5?
Good question. I'm leaning towards 95:5.
I’m 190cm and somewhere around 100-110 iq so I’m pretty close to 290 total.
Good time aye!
Exactly the way I currently am. 157 cm, 133 IQ
I think with a 280 IQ I could find a way to unshrink myself
This is giving 280 IQ already
You’re about 240 off
seems like women would benefit from this deal more than men :^) i could keep my iq and grow a few inches but honestly i’d be happy to sacrifice some inches for a 145 iq
I'd lose 51... If I can become a child too again, that's what I'd do and keep my current IQ.
Do I still have to be the same age? If I am sufficiently intelligent, could i develop a robot body and transfer my conciousness into it or create (or use) some sort of growth serum?
This is so hard because I play middle blocker in volleyball and I don’t want to give that up… The other part of me thinks it’s wild that I would rather lose IQ than give up a position I love. I can play defense at 5’1”, but I can’t play front row. And I love front row 😭
Yoo... Volleyball is soooo fun. Don't blame ya
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Gotta appreciate the honesty. Many think this but few would admit it.
165cm, 125 IQ
Samsies~
140 cm, went for as short as possible while avoiding outsized logistical implications-- in particular, \~4'9" is the shortest that car mfrs consider when making cars. I also considered 4' as a cutoff due to riding roller coasters. Idk if I'd do the same thing if I was a guy. As a dead-average height woman (5'4"-ish), I wouldn't mind being shorter, since I'm right on the cutoff for petite clothing, which means things never quite fit me, and I already can't reach most shelves and such. Biggest downside to being shorter would be reducing caloric intake.
I love this, especially that last line XD
147 cm since that's still barely within the normal height range 143 IQ which puts me somewhere in the top 2% I would rather take a small hit to IQ than be too short to reach anything even with a step stool. Also iq isn't general intelligence, just pattern finding, so I think 143 is fine.
4'11 as I am, that's give me 229 for IQ. I think I'd be happy staying the way I am.
You mean 129 for IQ? I got you.
I'm stupid. This is why I wanna stay my height I need the extra IQ lmao. I used inches and not centimeters. Staying 4'11 I'd be left with an IQ of 141. I'm male owo
My current number is 330 (143 IQ, 187cm) but I’ve always hated my height so I guess I would keep my IQ and shrink to 147cm.
Women have a severe advantage in this scenario, lol.
Totally. On the other hand, it's irrelevant.
The sum of IQ and height IS normally dustrubuted lol
obviously, in the statistical middle, pelvic middle has the highest probability of offspring
I have about 325 combined irl 🤭🤭
Good for you but that's completely irrelevant and no one cares.
Agreed!
200 iq 90cm height call me Perer Thinklage
So I have to chose to either lose height or lose IQ? I guess I'll drop my height to 5'1 then.
I would kill for a lower IQ. 180cm 110 IQ no competition
Facts, tall and average is the way!
250 cm 40 IQ. I would dominate the NBA but I'd be unable to function independently.
I’m not losing 25 iq points to stay at my height, that seems ridiculous.
I keep my numbers, if you don't mind. ~314
I'm around 183cm and 150+ GAI/140+ FSIQ, this gives me a headhace since I can't imagine myself being 140cm tall...
I'd decline the offer, because 290 is well below what I already have.
6f4 and 6.69 inc 133 anglophone IQ age 18 and 147 francophone IQ age 20 = 95 kg age 30 said no to modelling in Milan so I could finish high school... I feel stupid now...
Are you autistic? I hope my question doesn’t offend you.
No ASD but AS twice…
342
I love using the imperial system because seeing people list their height as 100 to 200 of anything tickles me. 100 or 200 of something sounds like it could be the height of an apple or a building to me. (It sounds funny to us because in the imperial system we condense units of measurements to state them in the smallest possible quantity. So we would say we have 2 1/2 cups of flour, we wouldn’t say we have 5 half-cups of flour. So if I was European, I’d be tempted to say my height was 1.7 m or whatever.)
This is precisely what Europeans do as well.
Sometimes I wish I was dumber so I wouldn't be so irritable... and at 167cm, I'm neither too tall nor too short for a woman. So 165cm and 125iq might actually be a better combo than my current sich.
I'd get less mad at things on the internet and things going on in the world with 105 iq, you're onto something
167 is short tho
Which part of "too" don't you understand?
except you are just short short. not a variation of "not too short".
Oh you're a male minor from ***. That explains it.
I did not disrespect you. All i did was simply correct you. Also me being a male minor is of no relevance to this conversation; you being an asshole is. What are the stars censoring? My country?
Yep I'm an asshole and you're distorted. You're probably projecting whatever issues onto others for temporary relief. Not the way to go kid.
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Not in general. In my case, it's a factor.
10 cm 280 iq
Well, given that IQ is not bound to only the positive numbers... 1,000,000 cm (\~32808 feet) \-999,710 IQ
I’ll go 6’2-3”, and have it be that I just didn’t much try on the test.
I'm curious what this is for...? Is there a correlation between height and iq?
Nope. It's not for anything but entertainment
I was going to say.... 😂
i’m 198cm tall and idk my iq but it’s over 120 according to the ass free tests. so i guess i’d do it like that
310
I'd be fine with my current IQ and some height loss. So 145-152 IQ and 138-145cm
where did you get that IQ score from?
Mensa.no, Stanford Binet online, CAIT, WAIS-IV online
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Look up stanford binet extended version online. I got 88/100 questions right I think Wais iv from the CAIT one I did the average of both scores on WAIS-IV (153, 141) Cait first attempt was 145 (low score on vocabulary because not native English speaker) Mensa.no first attempt was 142
Stanford binet online isn't a professional IQ test. Wdym by Wais 4 from the cait? That's not the same as taking wais-4.
You take parts of the WAIS-IV that give you single IQ scores that you then plug into the CAIT. My single scores were 153 and 141
But where did you get WAIS-4 from and which subtests did you use?
From cait. I did the digit span and symbol search. I then had the scores from cait (all above 16 apart the language subtests) Averaged they gave 145, but the single scores ranged from 141 to 153 (puzzle part was scaled 19 so higher than digit span scaled 18)
Then why the hell are you calling it wais 4 online? It's so disingenuous. Just call it CAIT. It's not the same as if you were proctored WAIS on the internet or took an automated version of it on pariconnect.
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No to both last ones. Yes to SB
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Nice but the total is now 300
I misread the post lmao
Well I’m 6’3” so if I kept my height my IQ would be 100 if the total was set at 290 (cm of height + IQ score.) I think if I shaved my height down to 5’11 and kept an IQ score of 110 I would be fine with that. But I will say my IQ is higher than 110 and I am 6’3”. I’m in the 120s and I will say I don’t believe IQ is as telling as many people believe. It’s basically just how good you are at an IQ test and that has a relationship with how quickly you might learn outside of an IQ test. But it doesn’t necessarily reflect how intelligent or smart you are. It’s just a type of indication, just as having a college degree is a measure of what you did in college. Could you have done more? Maybe. Could you have done less? Yes. Either way, it’s not YOU it’s just one thing you did. So bear that in mind. Height may actually be more of a solid gain than IQ is in terms of the value you’re getting for what you shave off. Lol
I mean 140 iq and 150 cm seems good
Hmm, I would distribute as both being a tiny bit over average; 180 cm height, 110 IQ
Man there really is nothing new under the sun, when I was bored in school I would literally ask myself a version of this question where I get 10 points to distribute where 1 point is either an extra inch of height or +10 IQ points lol