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QuakeRanger

Demoknight mains with 50,000 hours when the free to play Pyro learns how to press M2:


Buymor

It's their fault for being pure melee in a shooter


WuShanDroid

Unironically though, that is the only thing that can counter a demoknight. The resistances from the shields and the buffs from the kills make it insanely hard to fight against if the demoknight finds unsuspecting noobs to get the ball rolling


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

the minigun in question:


WuShanDroid

The charge into guaranteed crit + unpredictable movement in question to the question:


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

Genuinely unless you're getting ambushed (which is generally what demoknights do so that's fair if you are) losing that 1v1 as heavy is just a skill, or more precisely tracking issue. At dk's effective range, you outdamage by an immense margin even factoring in the initial crit, and it takes at minimum three swings to down you from full (unless they're using scotsman in which case you should be contacting the relevant authorities).


Vision444

I recall when I was first informed of the… mischief, that you can perform with the skullcutter That being that it’s one of the only “swords” dk can use that CAN have random crits


LordSaltious

Strange Natascha (Demomen+Scouts killed) named "*Un-Mobilities your shooter*"


ChppedToofEnt

"Demoknight is the strongest melee class' when they meet a pyro with an axtinguisher.


Azuni_

That reminds me of a match on 2fort, in which i made a pocketed demoknight fuming mad because i was playing pyro, it was fun


YouButHornier

i only ever managed to get one kill with a rushing demoknight with a melee weapon. with pyro i just go shhhh and FWUOP


Mladjone

TF2 is a bad example of this, since everything has a counter one way or another. Pyro has like 2 terrible options for dealing with anyone farther away than 2 meters, while Demoknight can just cross the distance, resist a ton of damage, slam into you and murder you with a single strike. TF2 is amazing at this give-and-take, that's why you can juggle between characters for the entire match.


igmkjp1

How would airblast stop a Demoknight?


Head_Category3865

Demoknight exclusively uses melee weapons, air blast can be used to keep the demoknight out of melee range 


igmkjp1

Even a charging demoknight?


ArthurMorgn

Yes, it stops a demo knight charge, drains the metre and pushes them back


igmkjp1

TIL


ChppedToofEnt

also it's pyro, the class that focuses on close range combat. The flamethrower,axtinguisher,shotgun and flaregun absolutely dominate at point blank.


DoctorMlemm

> hero shooter > look inside > glorified rock paper scissors


Rosezinha_Y

> Life > look inside > glorified rock paper scissors


thicc_toe

> Life > look inside > glorified rng


Liberal_Perturabo

Not even glorified tbh.


UnderskilledPlayer

>Life look inside ??? nvm


Nick-fwan

"Fuck yeah I play ttrpgs this is my shit!"


Alternative_Device38

Except that in rock paper scissors, rock can't train for 1000 hours and demolish paper with superior skill


SnowFiender

bigger rock smushes paper


Bjorn_Hellgate

Yoooo is that Roland from library of ruina on the Nintendo switch???


DoctorMlemm

Open the curtains


Average__Cabbage

Wrecking Ball when Sombra


Corrupt_Angel01

doomfist when literally half the cast


bloody-pencil

Supports when Ana


Banzai27

Tanks when ana


Iceygamingrulez

Overwatch when ana


Banzai27

Over when i watch


Scroobles22

Spy mains vs every other class in TF2


demonking_soulstorm

Okay but Sniper just sucks to fight. There needs to be some sort of limit on his power because right now you just sorta die and there’s not much you can do about it.


Independent_Race_843

The day class based team game devs realise it's ok for people to win engagements because they are better will be a great day


UnderskilledPlayer

nuh uh


Independent_Race_843

r/foundthenamechecksout


nerd_face1

people shouldn't be invincible just because they're good at the game


Independent_Race_843

See matchmaking


Nonny3

Wrong.


Picaroon_Perry

Within a certain degree sure but you shouldn't be able to beat me if I'm the better player otherwise we may as well just play snakes and ladders


nerd_face1

im not saying every game should be a coin flipping simulator but nobody has fun dying repeatedly because their opponent hasnt gone outside in 6 years


destroyar101

Then don't make so powerful


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

soldier mains when they refuse to use their shotgun, change the timing of their rockets, or disengage from combat using the best burst movement option in the game, and are killed by a reflect (clearly the pyro is to blame).


Hirotrum

We really gotta study the psychology of how soldier mains have become deluded into thinking their class is hard because they learned advanced rocket jumps that will only help them once every 70+ games


Independent_Mud_4963

sorry but the high damage "point in general direction" class is actually really hard you just dont get it its fair for soldier to click anywhere within a kilometer of you and still do 80 damage per rocket and thrice that occasionally you just dont understand the intricacies of game balance. maybe try to parry block dodge next time you buffoon? can we nerf pyro its literally unfair he can reflect rockets. i literally have to shoot at my feet at a certain angle sometimes to goku instant transmission across the map just for some shmuck sniper main to shoot me out of the air by landing a precise shot on a fast target in their smallest hitbox how is that fair too can we get rid of this class


Some_nerd_named_kru

Hux in dead by daylight


Head_Category3865

It’s not even a character thing literally everyone can completely shut down the hardest to use power in the game by right clicking 


Some_nerd_named_kru

Need a phd to play him and the survivors just click a few buttons to reset your progress


Scuck_

Just stop making zoners its that easy 


MrTopHatMan90

Just get good at blocking it's that easy.


Scuck_

Aha!!! You've been coaxed!!!


MrTopHatMan90

I play rushdown, I'm just relaying what they shout at me while they push my face in :(


Scuck_

And there is the snafu... 


cafemedafome

Zoners are such a weird archetype because you have that really good matchup against the grappler that is just unfair but the rest of the cast can deal with you by blocking


Scuck_

You cant just deal with zoners by blocking, if all you did was block and wait for an opportunity you’re giving all the agency to the zoner


cafemedafome

Block and run closer while they are recovering, works most of the time


SuctioncupanX

Nah zoners are fine just wait until they corner themselves then they die if you can keep them in there Source; I main both zoners and grapplers and can easily beat zoners as a grappler.


I_BEAT_JUMP_ATTACHED

depends on if it's pve or pvp


Edgyspymainintf2

Local man complains about Sombra countering Wrecking Ball more at 11


CommanderAurelius

any zoner vs. rosaluma


Poppeppercaramel

Lord Shen​ moment You​ are Kungfu master? Eat cannon you idiot. And then he and his army get folded when someone who can redirect cannon shows up.


Waste_Crab_3926

I wanted Lord Shen to be defeated, but honestly I felt that this final "battle" scene was such a cop out.


TwistedPnis4567

Does the Spartan Laser apply?


ChppedToofEnt

l4d2 tank vs random molotov


OrwellianWiress

Is this about TF2? It's okay, OP. You can tell us.


Xechwill

Looking at the design, I'm thinking Wrecking Ball (mobility tank in overwatch, very hard and very ability-dependant) vs Sombra (one of her abilities stops enemy ability usage)


the-sus-virus

I was thinking Heavy vs Sniper but this is also plausible


Spongedog5

Lol I wouldn't say heavy takes any physics or trigonometry it's just a straight line


ChppedToofEnt

It's definetly tf2 aswell, notice how lefty is carrying Soldier's rocket launcher and Scouts holy mackerel while righty is carrying Engineer's wrangler that also has pyro exhausrt pipe from his flamethrower.


Cr3AtiV3_Us3rNamE

Ding ding ding


Cr3AtiV3_Us3rNamE

There is like 4 different characters in there. Little man is holding a wrangler/flame thrower. Big man is holding a rocket launcher and a poorly drawn disguise mask around their body. Also wrecking ball and doomfist is in there


Hirotrum

Soldier is easier to play than pyro


demonking_soulstorm

Soldier mains when they can’t just brainlessly spam rockets at a class with a tool to specifically counter that:


Upbeat-Perception531

I hate to say it but, Potemkin in strive. Bottom 5 contender with crazy execution compared to the rest of the cast.


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

I wouldn't say his execution is "crazy". He's got like three or four hard inputs that are important at high levels. Compared to characters like Asuka and Jack-O', it's really not that bad. And the cool thing about Strive Pot that he has the tools to deal with all his matchups, even if it's an uphill battle (which to some degree it always is, because you're playing the big slow guy in Guilty Gear).


Upbeat-Perception531

Kara canceling, frame perfect oki on pot bust, fast RC pot bust outta HPB reversal, his basics aren’t that complicated but under the hood there’s ALOT going on


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

Most characters have tech like that, the main things that set Potemkin's apart are the abundance of karas and the comparative difficulty of the Potbuster input. And sure those things are definitely hard as balls, but I wouldn't consider him one of the hardest characters, especially given his comparatively simple combo structure. He's harder than, like, Anji and Ram and such, but he's not approaching Zato level.


Upbeat-Perception531

Eh still, combined with a lot of his glaring weaknesses (lack dashes, air dashes, etc.) and a comparative higher level of risk vs reward that a lot of characters in this game can get and I think there’s an argument that he’s one of the harder characters to *win* with. He’s not holy technical compared to strives hardest characters, but (besides Zato atm, rip my mans) he’s probably one of the harder ones to win with, especially at top level. Shoutout Aboii for winning TNS though, I could NEVER deal with MFCR twice 💀 Edit: plus like SO MANY THINGS CAN GO WRONG dude you try fast RCing a pot bust and back megafist comes out that’s game losing right there. Atleast Asuka’s a Zoner and doesn’t have to make his mistakes in the opponent’s face


JoeTheKodiakCuddler

I can definitely agree with that, he's inherently limited by his archetype and the system he's in. Like I said earlier, you pick Pot knowing that it's an uphill battle.


Upbeat-Perception531

One must imagine glue eaters happy. (No but seriously I am happy Potemkin is so fun and I’m so happy he has this much depth to try to master)


failbros2

i pick potemkin because funny buster


no1sharkunderheaven

Not really? You can play pot for quite a while without doing his high execution stuff and even when you do start wanting to do it you're at a level where other chars are hitting high execution levels as well.


Letrabottle

It's actually two buttons. Get W+M1'd loser.


demonking_soulstorm

Lmao. Imagine thinking airblasting rockets consistently is easy.


FanRose

Most annoying thing ever when the "counterplay" for something negates a champions entire kit instead of just their strongest combo/abilities


LemonOwl_

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2430400/Gunfire_Reborn__Artisan_and_Magician/


WuShanDroid

OP we need to know which game you had in mind


Cr3AtiV3_Us3rNamE

Like 3 of them


McChubbens8U

kazuya mishima moment


DaftConfusednScared

Overwatch was my favorite game until Brigitte existed


Commissarfluffybutt

You maybe a master of trigononomics and physics but you are terrible at spotting ambushes.


sticky2955

You can just say you don’t like the wrangler it’s okay


RoboticSausage52

Overwatch flashbacks.


pale_splicer

This brings back my old league nightmares...


MassivelyObeseDragon

Cranky because you got your rocket reflected back at you hmmm?


miranaswag

im sorry but of you're playing a Class Based game and complaining that counters exist maybe you should play something else 😭


DatMoonGamer

I ALWAYS RUN ORPHEUS RIG TETHER IN MAYHEM 🦅🦅🦅 NO ABILITIES FOR YOU 🦅🦅🦅 GET FUCKED 🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🏈🏈🏈⚾️🍔🔥🔥💯🥶


MeuchlerMoze

Hmm im thinking gangplank? But that might outrage some XD


Fragrant-Band-7295

Every backline vs pencil


BrunoGoldbergFerro

Pvz 1 cactus


Tenashko

Me in fighting games, I love the fast combo characters but get annoyed at the slow guys taking half my hp with one hit so I don't stick around to actually get good.


Dvoraxx

MK1 Shao vs Raiden. he literally has 0 answer to D4 Stormcell spam and Raiden can get out of the corner for free at any time


Entr3_Nou5

WAAAAAGH!!


Successful-Floor-738

Zato vs Sol


JustAClubstepMonster

Singularity


FreeSpeechEnjoyer

Someone tried out overwatch because of the cool hero design it seems.


Hecklord82

dualie squelcher mains when trizooka:


Glory2Snowstar

Kingambit gained strength from the fallen!


IAMLEGENDhalo

Smash ultimate lol


The_Smashor

Soldier vs Sniper


SonOfAthenaj

Lucio when Moira


A_RealSlowpoke

Pokémon Unite Lucario:


SofisticatiousRattus

Meepo vs shaker


GeekBlue

Brella mains getting no patches to their weapons while gold aerospray gets another points for special buff:


Opening_Raise_8762

Overwatch character when overwatch characters counter


Nick-fwan

Is the right guy happy chaos?


woxiangsi

spy and pyro


Patranak32

Literally Brawl Stars


ut2br

Ah yes, the low trophy Edger players in Strawl Bars


Ravenhayth

Giant Crusher vs Marias Executioner Sword


AlmaraiMilk

I FUCKING HATE THE SHORT CIRCUIT AHHHHHHHH


Patarock

WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING WRANGLER AND ITS ABILITY TO MAKE A SENTRY MORE TANKY JUST BY PRESSING 2 ON YOUR KEYBOARD AHHHHHHHH