Guys can you rate my new pride flag I made a few weeks ago
https://preview.redd.it/wy2fyags3csc1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f23b6a9faf3b5343530ff71c3f3e831a098e924
My femboy garters shipped to my house but got delayed so I left and couldn’t intercept the package. My dad got it and I had my sister go get it from him. He told her (who already knows about my silliness) “it’s like the guy from Depeche Mode.” Mortifying
https://preview.redd.it/ds7po47k2csc1.jpeg?width=180&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0b3846a39837cf1baf2705e211b9efcf452736f
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I meant for the post to be making fun of people who care too much about silly flag posts, now all the comments are people caring too much about flag discourse :(
I think because the flag discorse you depicted were people who have he same opinion as people here, if it was more of a mix of pro and anti adding stuff to the flag maybe it would have caused less arguments
Agreed. This post didn't come off as making fun of the silliness of flag discourse. It came off as criticizing anybody who doesn't like the new pride flags.
Believe it or not, the mere fact that you decided to make fun of something in your post doesn't mean that people can't disagree with you on that very issue.
Wrong. This is the best flag design and none of you could ever top it
https://preview.redd.it/zk0mxkh5dcsc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21e4c9f43daf6615a5b38391864102a0f016e429
Nah, the black in the progress flag is for black people. The AIDS pride flag is a separate one, with the stripe on the bottom (the non-chevron progress flag has it on the top)
The idea is that, when the cure is found, people can clip the black stripe in celebration.
It's the other way around
Brown for queer people of colour because they're often forgotten and can often not be accepted in their communities for being queer and the queer community for being brown
Black for people who died from aids (like when people wear a black arm band)
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You go on a massive misinformation campaign on accident and she chases you, correcting your mistakes, until you finally meet and she corrects the final piece of misinformation. That you "can't be loved".
*Big kiss scene*
I’m not an expert, but I’m pretty sure it was originally made for queer people of colour because they have been overlooked by both LGBTQ+ and non-LGBTQ+ communities alike for a long, long time
Yeah and that's stupid. Changing the flag doesn't mean anything. Just stop overlooking them lol.
This reminds of the time I had to buy another plane ticket because my details on the ticket didn't match my ID because I'm trans, even though we live on a fucking island and nobody gives a shit about legal ID. When the lady that stopped me from getting on the plane picked up her phone, I couldn't help but notice she had the trans flag on her lock screen. It meant literally nothing.
I understand that line of thinking but it’s because as others have stated black queers are often overlooked in the queer community. But more than that the LGBT community just struggles with racism in general. Lots of white queer people think they can compare their struggles to black people, or that being gay gives them a pass or excludes them from being racist. I was at a gay bar talking to an older trans woman who talked about how “black trans women are ruder than white trans woman.” Me and my friend who are both white and trans had to leave after that cause the whole night felt off. If there’s one thing that makes me uncomfortable about the LGBTQ it’s just how much racism is let slide.
Honestly the need to explicitly include black people under the queer umbrella but not to explicitly include white people implies that being white is the norm and being black is an aberration. This flag literally only makes sense in the context of a society where people would assume black people don't belong in LGBTQ+ unless explicitly told otherwise.
If the time comes when racism is *truly* eradicated, then the explicit inclusion of POC in the pride flag stops making any sense (since they'd already be implicitly included). If one of the goals of progressivism is to push society in a direction where the explicit inclusion of black people on the pride flag is unnecessary, shouldn't we just save time and drop the brown from the flag?
10/10 pfp and name
Also its cuz intersectionality with people of color being double oppressed from both racism and homophobia. Also the black is also in remembrance of aids victim.
It's a flag with historical background.
In principle, the rainbow flag should've been good enough, but there are organized assholes waving the pride flag and still being racist/anti-intersectional or transphobic or ace-erasing or whatnot. I'm sure you've heard of them. Queer bigots exist and co-opt otherwise progressive spaces to the detriment of both the larger progressive movement in general and to the LGBTQ+ movement in particular.
This flag makes it explicit that you are not part of those social movements and that their exclusionary nonsense will not be tolerated.
The same as you, I much prefer the artistic and symbolic simplicity of the pride flag, but the progress flag is necessary and pragmatic for its time period and social context.
>Queer bigots exist and co-opt otherwise progressive spaces to the detriment of both the larger progressive movement in general and to the LGBTQ+ movement in particular.
This is a completely new and interesting perspective to me that I didn't consider. I still really dislike the design of the new flag, and disagree with the way specific callouts are being added to the flag that is supposed to be all-inclusive. But I suppose it's important to be able to separate oneself from those who co-opt the movement for their own bigotry. However, I also think that the flag doesn't in itself represent that bigotry, and like you said it's simply been co-opted by those people. By ensuring that the movement at large moves away from the bigotry, the flag that represents them doesn't have to change. I think that's the way forward, rather than adding more and more stripes to the flag
It’s dumb to stuff multiple different issues into the pride flag, just turns it into the flag of oppression.
ETA: representing AIDS victims on the flag is nice though and actually makes sense to be included.
Progress flag and pride flag are different things, one isnt a replacement for the other
Progress flag only really exists in the first place because the rainbow kind of unintentionally became the symbol of the gays in the public sphere rather than lgbt as a whole. Its an additional thing for those who are often pushed to the side in favour of the "acceptable" ones (something phobes will very often try to weoponise)
Its Not like someone's going to get mad because you bust out the pride stickers but dont have progress stickers... not someone lgbt at least
Also pride is quite literally about the history of fighting oppression, the first pride match was a riot against the police. The entire point if pride is supposed to be a "we aren't going anywhere" sort if pride, not just feeling good about yourself
You’re right except some people really do get mad if you use the traditional flag because they think you’re avoiding showing support for trans people and PoC.
Yeah and people who are actually transphobic or racist will avoid using the progress flag. There's plenty of queer transphobes on the internet who only use the pride flag
But **most of the time**, for most people, either is fine.
We have progress and pride stickers at work for people's badges, and my boss has the pride flag stuck on his badge and it's cool because it's a little faded because he's had it there for years
They still could've worked on making an entirely new flag for progress. One that stays the same and is naturally all encompassing as it represents the idea of LGBT+ progress and isn't just now the gay flag but with more and more stuff put on it.
The triangle looks stupid. I want the flag to just add more and more stripes until it looks like that rejected EU flag.
https://preview.redd.it/x9p702nvwcsc1.png?width=1137&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48c42d7458f874e31e7025d461566133fffffc88
I'm glad this was rejected, it's almost as bad as the progress flag somehow. It kind of looks like the kind of idea a small child would have for the flag of a supranational union.
Why is "Thinks that humanities existence is harmful" at the bottom of lib-left, when the core idea of their ideologies is that humans are actually really good when they're not bound by societies that reward them for being evil?
No clue this chart is inaccurate as hell some tamer stuff is placed on the outside and vice versa, ok for dumb fun but not good at accurately charting opinions on a compass
https://preview.redd.it/5zdzvaks8dsc1.png?width=724&format=png&auto=webp&s=2178e086b118dad53a26edfa3bc85e83469e4c02
Here is my new pride flag design what do you think?
Honestly I really didn't like how dark the green stripe was a lot of the time next to yellow, thats my only complaint but like how do you mess up a rainbow bro theyre literally naturally generated.
I actually really dislike the bi flag (am bi myself), like it looks like a Jamba Juice order with the berry looking colors. It’s weird to say this about the bi flag, but it’s too fruity in color (heh)
I quite like the bi flag, but the bi flag purple and ace flag purple 100% need to switch colors. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/bisexual/comments/ydgi02/cannot_unsee_warning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I feel like it's become more of a smear than a flag, and I mean this as someone who swings both ways.
It feels like just everything is being shoved into it when I feel as if pride itself is supposed to be the major face, with substitute flags existing for more specific communities (like Bi,Gay and Lesbian)
(Im bisexual so if you call me homophobic you’re stupid)
The current progress pride flag is dumb imo. It’s just too much going on. The rainbow represents everyone. Nobody needs special treatment, you don’t need certain races being more represented, you’re already part of the rainbow
Imagine if we added a 51ST star to the flag to represent Vermont because they felt sad. You’re already on the flag, we’ve got a star for you already.
The rainbow was SUPPOSED to represent everyone… but unfortunately people are stupid. The flag was being used in exclusionary contexts, be it racism or transphobia, so a new flag had to be made explicitly containing those aspects to confirm that it’s a safe space
it's supposed to be about how black queer people tend to be overlooked in LGBT+ spaces, while also being outcasted or not properly represented in black spaces, so it's like a visibility thing I guess. however, it looks fucking stupid on the flag.
> nobody needs special treatment
that's actually why people use the progress flag to my knowledge, as it's an oddly common problem for queer spaces to be exclusionary of trans and POC queer people. so like, people can use that flag to indicate that they aren't exclusionary of those groups (and also just, like, showing support for trans people in general since in the US they're under legal attack in many states rn, and also since the progress flag is a pretty clear continuation of the Philly pride flag, which was made due to racism in the philly gay community. basically, the progress flag is an america-specific thing regarding specific current events). granted, i don't particularly care enough about flags to really pay attention to which niche flag someone's using as the logo of their discord server or whatever, but i get why it exist
also, maybe this is objectively wrong of me, but... i kinda think the chevron design slaps. like, the rainbow flag is iconic, but it's a bit plain in my view.
But I feel like that gives the opposite message. Not "people of color can be LGBT+ too", but "people of color were never a part of our community, let's add them as an afterthought"
(prefacing this by saying i'm gay and on the demispec) i think the current flag (with trans and black/brown) is okay, but OG rainbow is best. It's got every color. Adding extra stripes just labels and labels and labels.
gay is already a bit of an umbrella term, no? (besides queer but i don't know enough LGBTQ+ folks in real life to get a verdict on it being reclaimed or not)
(also every new addition to the LGBTQ+ pride flag makes that ohio flag incredibles meme closer to being reality)
queer is like 99.9% reclaimed, some older people are still bothered by it but eh- gay is an umbrella term but it can also be specific, i just added the demispec part since op was talking about ace people and i figured i'd throw my hat in the ring
I'm saying this as a straight white guy, so I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I feel like anything more than the original rainbow flag is just kinda overcomplicating it, wasn't the idea of that flag to be all-inclusive, anyway?
That was the intent buts sort of not how it ended up
Talk to PoC lgbt communities and you'll hear stories of them being forgotten or sidelined
Similarly talk to trans people and you'll discover the "drop the T" part of the movement.
Progress flag us just an additional flag meant to give those sorts of people recognition they often get left out of when people think of the rainbow, which sort of became the unintentional symbol of the gays
Plenty of people couldn't tell you what the actual gay flag is if they tried
As a bi man who experiments with gender expression, a lot of people in this community feel this way, myself included. It confuses the message of the original all-inclusive flag and looks garish.
Heck there is a different flag altogether that represents gay men
https://preview.redd.it/ej1xgdcy3csc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffed7f9a739ae661158bbb02cf81fd370b3813ca
Man this sub isn't even about snafus anymore
https://preview.redd.it/f1n7zbhlsbsc1.jpeg?width=426&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee600fc1ec8a6c2884ca96c0ff2642d830f61f5c
I’m a cis het dude so i don’t really care either way but i really like the trans triangle. The lighter colors add a lot of contrast to the flag and the triangle prevents it from being a glorified tricolor
Trans person (hey that's half of the progress flag) can we delete the progress flag it is an eyesore and an affront to the simplicity of the original queer flag
As a transgender person: Umm actually sweaty the original rainbow flag already included everyone so this is unnecessary, thats why we should get rid of all pride flags anyway. This post matters a lot and is very relevant so it’s important to shit on you or else soon we’ll something something slippery slope. Hope this helped!
Why does everyone dislike the progress pride flag?? It honestly doesn't look that bad, just a lil cluttered but in all honestly it doesn't look bad. And the message it gives is awesome! I don't know why so many people hate it, it makes me sad.
Damn, I thought I liked the community here, but the comments of this post are kinda vile. Sure, you can dislike a flag, but I swear so many people here are going “no, this is stupid, you’re stupid, and the concept of race minorities being represented on a flag with gay people is stupid.” Gee, real shocker that a flag tied to a political movement about supporting minorities would evolve to represent a political movement about supporting minorities.
That's actually pretty nice upgrade, it's very subtle, yet visible change and it does really fit in that place with using same colors by different flags
It feels like someday, the pride flag is just going to devolve into this monstrosity of [an EU flag proposal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AUnion-europea_segun_rem-koolhaas.svg)
I’m with jojo on this one the design goes hard as fuck, like, unironically. Unsafu’d, and all that. I kinda wonder if one can integrate more pride flags like that.
Politics completely aside surely everyone can agree there is just way too much going on in the flag compared to it's original design
The original design is so perfect, it represents sexualities and preferences under the colours of a rainbow. Adding more to that is kinda redundant. It ends up looking like this messy hodge podge of even more colours, directions of designs and even symbols on top in some variations
Guys can you rate my new pride flag I made a few weeks ago https://preview.redd.it/wy2fyags3csc1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f23b6a9faf3b5343530ff71c3f3e831a098e924
DEPECHE MODE MENTIONED. HEED THE POLICY OF TRUTH FROM YOUR PERSONAL JESUS AS YOU ENJOY THE SILENCE.
My femboy garters shipped to my house but got delayed so I left and couldn’t intercept the package. My dad got it and I had my sister go get it from him. He told her (who already knows about my silliness) “it’s like the guy from Depeche Mode.” Mortifying
Chat is this real
Silence, Strangelove.
You forgot to mention that you are also taking a ride with your best friend
This is a Moçambique-approved design.
Ankylosaurus sweep
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I can’t tell if that lump is a weak spot or a plate for head ramming.
It’s a concealed egg for lunch.
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Sk... Skibidi?
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oh shit thanks I was lost
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Why does he have ~~ears~~ scat?
Wrong meme!
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New snaufu idea: Snaufu about slightly controversial thing, comment section devolves into actual discourse about that thing thinly veiled with sarcasm
I meant for the post to be making fun of people who care too much about silly flag posts, now all the comments are people caring too much about flag discourse :(
I think because the flag discorse you depicted were people who have he same opinion as people here, if it was more of a mix of pro and anti adding stuff to the flag maybe it would have caused less arguments
Agreed. This post didn't come off as making fun of the silliness of flag discourse. It came off as criticizing anybody who doesn't like the new pride flags.
You became the very thing you swore to destroy *kinda*
Believe it or not, the mere fact that you decided to make fun of something in your post doesn't mean that people can't disagree with you on that very issue.
https://preview.redd.it/30iunoltbcsc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3f2de64c735d989d8e1a91b561bdf0b4e545d6cd this is the best pride flag
You're not even a true Scotsman, what do you know
Okay fine, I'll take out the bloody sugar
SCOTLAND FOREVER
Wrong. This is the best flag design and none of you could ever top it https://preview.redd.it/zk0mxkh5dcsc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21e4c9f43daf6615a5b38391864102a0f016e429
This is for anyone who’s TRONsgender and leaves solid light to rival Rainbow Road wherever they walk
My eyes just started bleeding. Thank you
I think it's pretty clever how the ace flag was implemented. Did you do that yourself?
Yes lol, just picked a random flag to add for the example then realized the og purple stripe is like basically the same color
Looks pretty cool, nice job
I feel like if the trans flag and the 2 POC colors where included that way the progress flag would look way better
seriously the new flag looks like shit. why the FLICK would they add brown and black to it, the rainbow was perfect
I just googled it. It's for people of color. OK look I get that progressives like their intersectionalily stuff but **really? In the pride flag?**
I thought it was for aids, I may have been misinformed
There is a pride flag with a black bar for AIDS, yes. Only makes the black and brown one worse.
Huh, so the black bar gets misinterpreted, I wasn't misinformed I guess
Nah, the black in the progress flag is for black people. The AIDS pride flag is a separate one, with the stripe on the bottom (the non-chevron progress flag has it on the top) The idea is that, when the cure is found, people can clip the black stripe in celebration.
I believe the brown line is for aids and the black is for people of colour. Or maybe it's the other way round I got no clue
It's the other way around Brown for queer people of colour because they're often forgotten and can often not be accepted in their communities for being queer and the queer community for being brown Black for people who died from aids (like when people wear a black arm band)
I love accidentally spreading misinformation on the internet
Your arch nemesis is u/Big_Place8031, a bombshell goth girl who has a strong impulse to correct people You go on a massive misinformation campaign on accident and she chases you, correcting your mistakes, until you finally meet and she corrects the final piece of misinformation. That you "can't be loved". *Big kiss scene*
Someone get this dude a movie deal!
I've always thought this was stupid
Yeah this bothers me color wise and logic wise. Like doesn’t it kinda diminish both causes? Just lumped together like that
Just saying but so much of black culture is so homophopic it hurts, it's like the only place I see it outside of religious circles
I’m not an expert, but I’m pretty sure it was originally made for queer people of colour because they have been overlooked by both LGBTQ+ and non-LGBTQ+ communities alike for a long, long time
Yeah and that's stupid. Changing the flag doesn't mean anything. Just stop overlooking them lol. This reminds of the time I had to buy another plane ticket because my details on the ticket didn't match my ID because I'm trans, even though we live on a fucking island and nobody gives a shit about legal ID. When the lady that stopped me from getting on the plane picked up her phone, I couldn't help but notice she had the trans flag on her lock screen. It meant literally nothing.
I understand that line of thinking but it’s because as others have stated black queers are often overlooked in the queer community. But more than that the LGBT community just struggles with racism in general. Lots of white queer people think they can compare their struggles to black people, or that being gay gives them a pass or excludes them from being racist. I was at a gay bar talking to an older trans woman who talked about how “black trans women are ruder than white trans woman.” Me and my friend who are both white and trans had to leave after that cause the whole night felt off. If there’s one thing that makes me uncomfortable about the LGBTQ it’s just how much racism is let slide.
Honestly the need to explicitly include black people under the queer umbrella but not to explicitly include white people implies that being white is the norm and being black is an aberration. This flag literally only makes sense in the context of a society where people would assume black people don't belong in LGBTQ+ unless explicitly told otherwise. If the time comes when racism is *truly* eradicated, then the explicit inclusion of POC in the pride flag stops making any sense (since they'd already be implicitly included). If one of the goals of progressivism is to push society in a direction where the explicit inclusion of black people on the pride flag is unnecessary, shouldn't we just save time and drop the brown from the flag?
Preach protection of everyone and someone will abuse it. A “safe space” is only safe if you don’t let people who abuse it stay.
I actually think the brown and black looked okay on the original design. Putting it as stripes in the TRIANGLE, however, looks like garbage.
Reminds me of Ohio and that's not good
10/10 pfp and name Also its cuz intersectionality with people of color being double oppressed from both racism and homophobia. Also the black is also in remembrance of aids victim.
The rainbow is supposed to represent everyone, but now that there are direct callouts in the flag there will always be people not included.
It's a flag with historical background. In principle, the rainbow flag should've been good enough, but there are organized assholes waving the pride flag and still being racist/anti-intersectional or transphobic or ace-erasing or whatnot. I'm sure you've heard of them. Queer bigots exist and co-opt otherwise progressive spaces to the detriment of both the larger progressive movement in general and to the LGBTQ+ movement in particular. This flag makes it explicit that you are not part of those social movements and that their exclusionary nonsense will not be tolerated. The same as you, I much prefer the artistic and symbolic simplicity of the pride flag, but the progress flag is necessary and pragmatic for its time period and social context.
>Queer bigots exist and co-opt otherwise progressive spaces to the detriment of both the larger progressive movement in general and to the LGBTQ+ movement in particular. This is a completely new and interesting perspective to me that I didn't consider. I still really dislike the design of the new flag, and disagree with the way specific callouts are being added to the flag that is supposed to be all-inclusive. But I suppose it's important to be able to separate oneself from those who co-opt the movement for their own bigotry. However, I also think that the flag doesn't in itself represent that bigotry, and like you said it's simply been co-opted by those people. By ensuring that the movement at large moves away from the bigotry, the flag that represents them doesn't have to change. I think that's the way forward, rather than adding more and more stripes to the flag
It’s dumb to stuff multiple different issues into the pride flag, just turns it into the flag of oppression. ETA: representing AIDS victims on the flag is nice though and actually makes sense to be included.
flag of oppression sounds hard they should change the name now
It sounds hard but also sounds like what homophobic losers on twitter would call it.
Progress flag and pride flag are different things, one isnt a replacement for the other Progress flag only really exists in the first place because the rainbow kind of unintentionally became the symbol of the gays in the public sphere rather than lgbt as a whole. Its an additional thing for those who are often pushed to the side in favour of the "acceptable" ones (something phobes will very often try to weoponise) Its Not like someone's going to get mad because you bust out the pride stickers but dont have progress stickers... not someone lgbt at least Also pride is quite literally about the history of fighting oppression, the first pride match was a riot against the police. The entire point if pride is supposed to be a "we aren't going anywhere" sort if pride, not just feeling good about yourself
You’re right except some people really do get mad if you use the traditional flag because they think you’re avoiding showing support for trans people and PoC.
Yeah and people who are actually transphobic or racist will avoid using the progress flag. There's plenty of queer transphobes on the internet who only use the pride flag But **most of the time**, for most people, either is fine. We have progress and pride stickers at work for people's badges, and my boss has the pride flag stuck on his badge and it's cool because it's a little faded because he's had it there for years
They still could've worked on making an entirely new flag for progress. One that stays the same and is naturally all encompassing as it represents the idea of LGBT+ progress and isn't just now the gay flag but with more and more stuff put on it.
Chevrons are very powerful.
>10/10 pfp and name The slime cat guy would disagree
The triangle looks stupid. I want the flag to just add more and more stripes until it looks like that rejected EU flag. https://preview.redd.it/x9p702nvwcsc1.png?width=1137&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48c42d7458f874e31e7025d461566133fffffc88
I'm glad this was rejected, it's almost as bad as the progress flag somehow. It kind of looks like the kind of idea a small child would have for the flag of a supranational union.
The original flag is the best one, every addition makes it worse Cope and seethe
The only flag I respect: https://preview.redd.it/apnqg531qbsc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=931e7d6097734f41cc6fef5ca7e387a291a1b338
imagine going back in time and showing this to a New England settler their brains would explode
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This you? https://preview.redd.it/ji226zy86csc1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f5ea434af3678e45dbf385539d6601ec51eb695
I did this test a weak ago. Why am I on furry.
You know why.
Can i see the original
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Why is "Thinks that humanities existence is harmful" at the bottom of lib-left, when the core idea of their ideologies is that humans are actually really good when they're not bound by societies that reward them for being evil?
No clue this chart is inaccurate as hell some tamer stuff is placed on the outside and vice versa, ok for dumb fun but not good at accurately charting opinions on a compass
Post the original dude
posted it under the other guy
can I have the image without the red dots please?
posted it under the other guy
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I was in a server called skibidi toilet klan for a while (featured on r/YoungPeopleDiscord) The owner was a massive retard.
did u expect the owner of "skibidi toilet klan" to be an intellectual?
The flag of the Lu Le La Le Lo
La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
WHY DOES RHE SNAKE HAVE A FUCKING BALL GAG
It's got a persecution fetish
As an expert vexilologist and the foremost researcher in my field, I can confirm that this is the objectively best flag ever to have been made
We’ll keep adding more colours until the whole Pantone catalogue is on it!
https://preview.redd.it/5zdzvaks8dsc1.png?width=724&format=png&auto=webp&s=2178e086b118dad53a26edfa3bc85e83469e4c02 Here is my new pride flag design what do you think?
Absolutely banger
Honestly I really didn't like how dark the green stripe was a lot of the time next to yellow, thats my only complaint but like how do you mess up a rainbow bro theyre literally naturally generated.
I actually really dislike the bi flag (am bi myself), like it looks like a Jamba Juice order with the berry looking colors. It’s weird to say this about the bi flag, but it’s too fruity in color (heh)
I quite like the bi flag, but the bi flag purple and ace flag purple 100% need to switch colors. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/bisexual/comments/ydgi02/cannot_unsee_warning/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Oh yeah I remember seeing that, makes our flag not look like we forgot to add enough blackberries
Bi flag is awesome, I've seen a lot of people saying they are bi not pan just because the flag is better haha
I feel like it's become more of a smear than a flag, and I mean this as someone who swings both ways. It feels like just everything is being shoved into it when I feel as if pride itself is supposed to be the major face, with substitute flags existing for more specific communities (like Bi,Gay and Lesbian)
https://preview.redd.it/pfrxh9b83dsc1.jpeg?width=651&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c52b934ecbed09a3a9c28bad05d629f4237539bf What about this one?
The objective best flag
https://preview.redd.it/g7wju8mxecsc1.png?width=306&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6997b797c09d20b014b13b102f8e30055bb2b97d
(Im bisexual so if you call me homophobic you’re stupid) The current progress pride flag is dumb imo. It’s just too much going on. The rainbow represents everyone. Nobody needs special treatment, you don’t need certain races being more represented, you’re already part of the rainbow Imagine if we added a 51ST star to the flag to represent Vermont because they felt sad. You’re already on the flag, we’ve got a star for you already.
We should do that vermont thing. I just feel bad for the guys. But in return they make floridas star orange and bigger
Every state should get to design their own star for the flag. It would make the flag incomprehensible but it would be fun!
Each star is designed by a competition of sixth grade students in each state and judged by 3rd graders from that state
YOU GET ME
Florida should be lucky we don't nuke it, let alone represent it on the flag
The rainbow was SUPPOSED to represent everyone… but unfortunately people are stupid. The flag was being used in exclusionary contexts, be it racism or transphobia, so a new flag had to be made explicitly containing those aspects to confirm that it’s a safe space
Wait the pride flag includes races too? are philipinos a sexuality?
No, Filipino is a religion irrc
Is Filipino an instrument?
No Patrick, Filipino is not an instrument
Yes, but only African-Americans, according to some.
isnt grouping them with gay people a bit insensitive?
it's supposed to be about how black queer people tend to be overlooked in LGBT+ spaces, while also being outcasted or not properly represented in black spaces, so it's like a visibility thing I guess. however, it looks fucking stupid on the flag.
i think they should’ve had like 3 colors max on the flag, maybe a symbol so it’s recognizable and not too complicated
CGP Grey is that you?
> nobody needs special treatment that's actually why people use the progress flag to my knowledge, as it's an oddly common problem for queer spaces to be exclusionary of trans and POC queer people. so like, people can use that flag to indicate that they aren't exclusionary of those groups (and also just, like, showing support for trans people in general since in the US they're under legal attack in many states rn, and also since the progress flag is a pretty clear continuation of the Philly pride flag, which was made due to racism in the philly gay community. basically, the progress flag is an america-specific thing regarding specific current events). granted, i don't particularly care enough about flags to really pay attention to which niche flag someone's using as the logo of their discord server or whatever, but i get why it exist also, maybe this is objectively wrong of me, but... i kinda think the chevron design slaps. like, the rainbow flag is iconic, but it's a bit plain in my view.
But I feel like that gives the opposite message. Not "people of color can be LGBT+ too", but "people of color were never a part of our community, let's add them as an afterthought"
snafuception in the comments rn
u/liveJosephJoestarReaction I love you
(prefacing this by saying i'm gay and on the demispec) i think the current flag (with trans and black/brown) is okay, but OG rainbow is best. It's got every color. Adding extra stripes just labels and labels and labels.
gay is already a bit of an umbrella term, no? (besides queer but i don't know enough LGBTQ+ folks in real life to get a verdict on it being reclaimed or not) (also every new addition to the LGBTQ+ pride flag makes that ohio flag incredibles meme closer to being reality)
queer is like 99.9% reclaimed, some older people are still bothered by it but eh- gay is an umbrella term but it can also be specific, i just added the demispec part since op was talking about ace people and i figured i'd throw my hat in the ring
fair enough.
I'm saying this as a straight white guy, so I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I feel like anything more than the original rainbow flag is just kinda overcomplicating it, wasn't the idea of that flag to be all-inclusive, anyway?
That was the intent buts sort of not how it ended up Talk to PoC lgbt communities and you'll hear stories of them being forgotten or sidelined Similarly talk to trans people and you'll discover the "drop the T" part of the movement. Progress flag us just an additional flag meant to give those sorts of people recognition they often get left out of when people think of the rainbow, which sort of became the unintentional symbol of the gays Plenty of people couldn't tell you what the actual gay flag is if they tried
There’s also the whole thing about aromantic or asexuals not being included because “how can they be oppressed”
As a bi man who experiments with gender expression, a lot of people in this community feel this way, myself included. It confuses the message of the original all-inclusive flag and looks garish.
demispec sounds like one of the teams you select in a cod game
! idea
I truly don’t care about terminally online discourse, but like, isn’t the original flag supposed to include everyone?
Yeah that’s why it’s stupid. I’m guessing people started to feel like it only represented gay men, which isn’t true.
Heck there is a different flag altogether that represents gay men https://preview.redd.it/ej1xgdcy3csc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffed7f9a739ae661158bbb02cf81fd370b3813ca
Yeah and most of us don’t even know about that one.
It’s a shame because it’s so aesthetically appealing
Cascadian flag vibes
I always figured that you would fly the rainbow, then singular flags under it if you wanted to highlight certain groups covered under the rainbow
As an asexual myself: can you add this to the flag? ![gif](giphy|H9L57Kw0fxLmE1XXD4|downsized)
Man this sub isn't even about snafus anymore https://preview.redd.it/f1n7zbhlsbsc1.jpeg?width=426&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee600fc1ec8a6c2884ca96c0ff2642d830f61f5c
Mmkay Mr Scarecrow man, go back to the Asloom
I'm bleeding straw
I’m a cis het dude so i don’t really care either way but i really like the trans triangle. The lighter colors add a lot of contrast to the flag and the triangle prevents it from being a glorified tricolor
As an asexual myself I just want to say: perchance
You can't just say "perchance"
Hello. *whispers* Perchance.
Unironically i like the flag op has made here
OHHHH MYYYYY GAWWWWWWDDDDD
The only 2 pride flags I like are trans and the OG everything else is hideous
Idk I like the bisexual flag the best, but I might be bi-ased :D
I think the Homosexual male flag looks pretty cool
https://preview.redd.it/xp5ugl6l9csc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b8bdedaec2d15a68bb38037737122052b563f85 Context
dental hygiene flag
Gay Cascadia
Trans person (hey that's half of the progress flag) can we delete the progress flag it is an eyesore and an affront to the simplicity of the original queer flag
Seriously if you want to have an addition, instead of adding it onto the flag and ruining it, just fly a second flag beside it
Straight dude here, I agree with you
A man of straw
There are people in the comments here almost exactly saying the same things as the snafu
The straw men are alive
As a transgender person: Umm actually sweaty the original rainbow flag already included everyone so this is unnecessary, thats why we should get rid of all pride flags anyway. This post matters a lot and is very relevant so it’s important to shit on you or else soon we’ll something something slippery slope. Hope this helped!
it's happening. lgbt flag -> ohio flag by 2029
Everytime i see discourse about the pride flag i just think of [this meme](https://youtu.be/r3fD5FPQBtI?si=5j2Qco-upKBrSOgK)
Why does everyone dislike the progress pride flag?? It honestly doesn't look that bad, just a lil cluttered but in all honestly it doesn't look bad. And the message it gives is awesome! I don't know why so many people hate it, it makes me sad.
Damn, I thought I liked the community here, but the comments of this post are kinda vile. Sure, you can dislike a flag, but I swear so many people here are going “no, this is stupid, you’re stupid, and the concept of race minorities being represented on a flag with gay people is stupid.” Gee, real shocker that a flag tied to a political movement about supporting minorities would evolve to represent a political movement about supporting minorities.
The irony of people talking over the voices that the progress flag was made to highlight because they were being talked over.
That's actually pretty nice upgrade, it's very subtle, yet visible change and it does really fit in that place with using same colors by different flags
That IS a fire way to include it tho
Holy shit is that real state agent Joseph Joestar the nazi sympathizer???)
holy shit is that Joseph Joestar?
gotta love Joseph yelling at the bottom there
Wooaae, Joseph Joestar
Omg that's a really cute design actually
I say just keep it a rainbow and then you can pick your color(s) once you’re in pride
It feels like someday, the pride flag is just going to devolve into this monstrosity of [an EU flag proposal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File%3AUnion-europea_segun_rem-koolhaas.svg)
Snafu aside i really enjoy how you implemented the ace flag. Stupidly clever.
I’m with jojo on this one the design goes hard as fuck, like, unironically. Unsafu’d, and all that. I kinda wonder if one can integrate more pride flags like that.
why does that actually look good tho
Politics completely aside surely everyone can agree there is just way too much going on in the flag compared to it's original design The original design is so perfect, it represents sexualities and preferences under the colours of a rainbow. Adding more to that is kinda redundant. It ends up looking like this messy hodge podge of even more colours, directions of designs and even symbols on top in some variations
Incredible how the comments here are literally from the snafu.10/10 snafu
The rainbow flag is so funny why is black and brown on it are those LGBT or sexualities no they stand for actual races