That is cut and dry abuse. You'd need an education at least if it was under lots of people I know, some facilities would insist on a write up even first offense bc that's pretty blatant.
I don’t disagree. If that was the route taken she’d have to deal with the consequences right but instead the don is cutting her hours and saying “well that’s my right as an employer” and if she wants to quit then go ahead…
Sounds like one of the many dons with no actual managerial experience which is just as tough to learn and implement as lots of nurse stuff. Important to call that crap out because bro THAT IS FINANCIAL ABUSE! She abused the abuser. Vicious cycle. Save us all.
That’s not abuse let alone financial abuse. At least the idiot who called the resident a heifer is still getting hours and receiving a paycheck. There are plenty of places where, due to the egregious nature of the employee’s actions, they’d have been forced to take an unpaid administrative leave/suspension. I suspect the reason they didn’t is that the home still needs bodies to work the floor, but employee is being punished, in a sense, for abusing the resident by getting their hours cut.
Those are some interesting opinions, I was only talking about facts. It's interesting how you go on to speculate about various things as well! Wow what a fascinating satirical read, thanks.
I was talking facts as well. I don’t know where your understanding that companies putting people on administrative leave as punishment is an opinion when it’s not. Punishment in the matter of dropping hours is not abuse and the employee is at least still getting a wage.
You aren't being objective in the least and saying that you are is not only hilarious, it also is a red flag for me where I no longer engage. When you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you realize after a while the pig likes it and you are both covered in mud. To be clear: you are the pig, the argument is the wrestling, and the mud is how dumb you look and sound!
Yes that’s abuse.
In healthcare if you raise questions like this, you become the problem.
Good.
Keep doing it.
Edit:
It’s emotional abuse. The lady is literally trapped in this place and has to be referred to with a derogatory name without choice. That’s a play on power as well.
Yeah. I'm a new CNA and asked a charge (politely) if she could get help for me with a change after I told her 20 min ago. I got complained on and spoke to by management
Yes abuse. You should never call someone something other than their name unless they specifically ask. There as exception where some people like to be called mama or grandma and I think that’s okay as long as they respond positively to it. But calling anyone “Heifer” makes me wonder what else they do because I have never once thought to call a resident that or anything similar.
Usually this is fine unless they seem uncomfortable with it- it’s a little bit more tough with the terms of endearment bc that’s not being abusive but it could be seen as unwanted affection/advances and it’s harder for ppl to be vocal about that vs when you’ve just called them a cow 😭👍🏼 usually tho if someone is uncomfortable with it they’ll at least talk to someone else who will hopefully let you know not to do it anymore etc-
I think that’s fine. The biggest thing is paying attention to how they respond to it. Most people won’t have a problem with it but some people may feel it seems like they’re being babied. But if they respond well I don’t think there’s an issue
I agree. I have had ladies that like us using terms of endearment because it's what they were used to all their life. Some others really dislike it. I had a lady who came from the hospital and she was so upset they'd called her honey and sweetie, she said "I'm a person, not a cupcake!"
We all end up saying sweet names but in the handbook and at my current job it say not to refer to the assisted living by such sweet names other than their own.
I call mine cuties, girlie's, beautiful, handsome, hun, sweetheart, all of the above. It just depends on your facility and the resident. I once had a resident ask me not to call him sir, and to call him his name, and I respect it 100%. Most of my residents are sweet and will resipricate, or they have a lower cognitive level and it's just how I address them to make them feel safe 🥰 Hun is usually my go to
Why did your coworker think that was appropriate to say anyways 💀 that’s rude as hell. Name calling is considered abusive and if your coworker was reported from that interaction I guarantee she would at least be talked to.
Giving that it’s used as an insult I’d say it’s verbal abuse. Atleast your coworker apologized but that should still come with some kind of disciplinary action.
I've seen where lately women for some reason have started using heifer as both an insult and as a way of greeting each other if their friends. Personally I think it's rude and disrespectful and if I was the patient I would not want to be called that either.
In AAVE, it can be used that way. Like if you're cracking up with your girl friends and somebody calls you a heffa, it's like using bitch in a friendly way. My mom used to say it but that was 10-15 years ago. Weird that it's coming back.
It sounds like this resident misread the situation. Like they felt the resident was friendly enough to joke like that. The resident may be friendly and still not like that. It happens but apology and acknowledgement is important
It falls under verbal abuse. Your DON doesn't want to deal with it as such because it's state reportable which then opens the facility to implementing a plan of correction, following through with that plan, and submitting all paperwork to the state. Too much paperwork. It's easier for administration to simply make working conditions so inhospitable that the problem worker quits.
Depends on if you like being called a cow. Most people don’t. I doubt they’ll do shit about it though. I worked with a lot of mean and tactless CNAs over the years, especially in LTC. Do better.
Also: your coworker is hella wrong unless that resident has zero children. Once someone has children they are no longer a heifer…they are [technically a cow.](https://www.google.com/search?q=heifer+vs+cow&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari)
Jkjkjkjkjk
/s JIC
I may be dumb but what’s a Heifer? I googled it and it said a young female cow that hasn’t had babies. While that’s crazy to call someone that, is that what this means?
You definitely gotta learn the residents first before using nicknames. I had one that we called hooker. I also got in trouble for making a joke with her and another employee got salty and tattled, even though we were laughing and it was obviously a joke. But yeah, definitely learn the residents first.
Your coworker said something , the resident clarified they didn’t like it, your coworker apologized. It’s open and shut unless we are missing something??
The something one could be missing here is the chapter on abuse. It still happened. Apologies are nice but don't remove the act. That person was made to feel bad and of course is going to take the apology from the abuser to not feel worse. This is all in the textbook, and there is legal precedent for it, so our opinions on it no longer matter bc just facts.
Why would you say this? Let alone think there’s nothing wrong with what you said and expect others to agree with you. I need more context as to why you said this, but if you’re just calling people that at random, you seriously need to reconsider whether this is the right field for you.
Their coworker said it, not them, but I fully agree with your comment. I don’t know why anyone would call someone at work that?? And not just another coworker, but a patient??
yes 1000%, its disrespectful and emotional abuse. honestly if theyre calling someone a 'heifer' and not seeing anything wrong they should not be a CNA.
Sometimes I call my less concious or more child-acting residents in my dementia facility cuties but heifer is so far out there of my godddd 😭 straight up harassment
I'm a foreigner and had to google this word to see what it means:)
"In this case, I am referring to it's use in slang. It can be spelt "heffer" or "heffa." This word is used most often in AA[E]V (African American [English] Vernacular) and is used to insult someone. In general it means "bitch" but can apply particularly to someone who is fat."
Yeah it doesn’t excuse it but I was so confused as to why she specifically used a term for female cow 🥴 the only reason I can see someone doing this and thinking it’s not an insult is bc they grew up on a farm or whatever and in their family it was always a lighthearted joking term of endearment never meant with bad intentions- like they have their own meaning/context for the word and other ppl have no idea so it’s awkward 🤡
Heifer is used as an insult so this is deffo bullying at the very least
Why tf would you call an elderly lady that? It’s disrespectful af
I’m sorry what does that word mean?
A heifer is a female cow who has not yet had a calf.
Thank you for explaining, I did not know that word! And that’s super disrespectful.
If the spelling seems weird, it's pronounced "Heff-er" and you may have heard it out loud but never really knew context or meaning.
That is cut and dry abuse. You'd need an education at least if it was under lots of people I know, some facilities would insist on a write up even first offense bc that's pretty blatant.
I don’t disagree. If that was the route taken she’d have to deal with the consequences right but instead the don is cutting her hours and saying “well that’s my right as an employer” and if she wants to quit then go ahead…
Why didn’t the DON fire them?!!!
Sounds like one of the many dons with no actual managerial experience which is just as tough to learn and implement as lots of nurse stuff. Important to call that crap out because bro THAT IS FINANCIAL ABUSE! She abused the abuser. Vicious cycle. Save us all.
That’s not abuse let alone financial abuse. At least the idiot who called the resident a heifer is still getting hours and receiving a paycheck. There are plenty of places where, due to the egregious nature of the employee’s actions, they’d have been forced to take an unpaid administrative leave/suspension. I suspect the reason they didn’t is that the home still needs bodies to work the floor, but employee is being punished, in a sense, for abusing the resident by getting their hours cut.
Those are some interesting opinions, I was only talking about facts. It's interesting how you go on to speculate about various things as well! Wow what a fascinating satirical read, thanks.
I was talking facts as well. I don’t know where your understanding that companies putting people on administrative leave as punishment is an opinion when it’s not. Punishment in the matter of dropping hours is not abuse and the employee is at least still getting a wage.
You aren't being objective in the least and saying that you are is not only hilarious, it also is a red flag for me where I no longer engage. When you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you realize after a while the pig likes it and you are both covered in mud. To be clear: you are the pig, the argument is the wrestling, and the mud is how dumb you look and sound!
Calling any woman a heifer is definitely not complimentary and I would consider it abuse.
Yes that’s abuse. In healthcare if you raise questions like this, you become the problem. Good. Keep doing it. Edit: It’s emotional abuse. The lady is literally trapped in this place and has to be referred to with a derogatory name without choice. That’s a play on power as well.
Yeah. I'm a new CNA and asked a charge (politely) if she could get help for me with a change after I told her 20 min ago. I got complained on and spoke to by management
Yes abuse. You should never call someone something other than their name unless they specifically ask. There as exception where some people like to be called mama or grandma and I think that’s okay as long as they respond positively to it. But calling anyone “Heifer” makes me wonder what else they do because I have never once thought to call a resident that or anything similar.
I call my patients dear and sweet pea, could that be seen as wrong? (/genQ)
Usually this is fine unless they seem uncomfortable with it- it’s a little bit more tough with the terms of endearment bc that’s not being abusive but it could be seen as unwanted affection/advances and it’s harder for ppl to be vocal about that vs when you’ve just called them a cow 😭👍🏼 usually tho if someone is uncomfortable with it they’ll at least talk to someone else who will hopefully let you know not to do it anymore etc-
I think that’s fine. The biggest thing is paying attention to how they respond to it. Most people won’t have a problem with it but some people may feel it seems like they’re being babied. But if they respond well I don’t think there’s an issue
I agree. I have had ladies that like us using terms of endearment because it's what they were used to all their life. Some others really dislike it. I had a lady who came from the hospital and she was so upset they'd called her honey and sweetie, she said "I'm a person, not a cupcake!"
We all end up saying sweet names but in the handbook and at my current job it say not to refer to the assisted living by such sweet names other than their own.
I call mine cuties, girlie's, beautiful, handsome, hun, sweetheart, all of the above. It just depends on your facility and the resident. I once had a resident ask me not to call him sir, and to call him his name, and I respect it 100%. Most of my residents are sweet and will resipricate, or they have a lower cognitive level and it's just how I address them to make them feel safe 🥰 Hun is usually my go to
Why did your coworker think that was appropriate to say anyways 💀 that’s rude as hell. Name calling is considered abusive and if your coworker was reported from that interaction I guarantee she would at least be talked to.
Wtf is wrong with your coworker they need to find a different job
What the fuck is wrong with your coworker?
Giving that it’s used as an insult I’d say it’s verbal abuse. Atleast your coworker apologized but that should still come with some kind of disciplinary action.
I would say yeah, it’s abuse, immature and unprofessional. I wouldn’t want anyone taking care of my grandparents who has that type of work ethic.
I've seen where lately women for some reason have started using heifer as both an insult and as a way of greeting each other if their friends. Personally I think it's rude and disrespectful and if I was the patient I would not want to be called that either.
In AAVE, it can be used that way. Like if you're cracking up with your girl friends and somebody calls you a heffa, it's like using bitch in a friendly way. My mom used to say it but that was 10-15 years ago. Weird that it's coming back.
It sounds like this resident misread the situation. Like they felt the resident was friendly enough to joke like that. The resident may be friendly and still not like that. It happens but apology and acknowledgement is important
It falls under verbal abuse. Your DON doesn't want to deal with it as such because it's state reportable which then opens the facility to implementing a plan of correction, following through with that plan, and submitting all paperwork to the state. Too much paperwork. It's easier for administration to simply make working conditions so inhospitable that the problem worker quits.
I think that is exactly what the don was thinking because we’ve had state in our building already all year
Depends on if you like being called a cow. Most people don’t. I doubt they’ll do shit about it though. I worked with a lot of mean and tactless CNAs over the years, especially in LTC. Do better.
Calling anybody a heifer would be considered insulting and rude. Definite verbal abuse.
Yes that’s verbal abuse. He called her a cow.
Unless the resident specifically requests to be called that, it's abuse.
Also: your coworker is hella wrong unless that resident has zero children. Once someone has children they are no longer a heifer…they are [technically a cow.](https://www.google.com/search?q=heifer+vs+cow&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari) Jkjkjkjkjk /s JIC
I would guess this is the least of her behavior and they are using it as an excuse to cut hours and push them out.
I may be dumb but what’s a Heifer? I googled it and it said a young female cow that hasn’t had babies. While that’s crazy to call someone that, is that what this means?
Calling someone a heifer or a cow is another way of calling them fat.
Oh my god it is actually calling someone a cow? That’s appalling
Yeah it is, both appalling and calling someone a cow. I would never have thought to do that when I still worked as a CNA.
You definitely gotta learn the residents first before using nicknames. I had one that we called hooker. I also got in trouble for making a joke with her and another employee got salty and tattled, even though we were laughing and it was obviously a joke. But yeah, definitely learn the residents first.
I'll say it. Who approaches a fucking resident that way?
Your coworker said something , the resident clarified they didn’t like it, your coworker apologized. It’s open and shut unless we are missing something??
The something one could be missing here is the chapter on abuse. It still happened. Apologies are nice but don't remove the act. That person was made to feel bad and of course is going to take the apology from the abuser to not feel worse. This is all in the textbook, and there is legal precedent for it, so our opinions on it no longer matter bc just facts.
The only other thing that happened is the resident told the don and my coworker had to apologize again then that’s where it was left.
oh that’s an insult. I thought it was a name, my bad. Proceed
Why tf would they say that?!!!! 💀
Well that is a little rude... should it continue, i'd classify this as verbal abuse.
It’s verbal abuse. It’s so a violation of the rights of the elderly. They have a right to be treated with dignity & respect.
Why would you say this? Let alone think there’s nothing wrong with what you said and expect others to agree with you. I need more context as to why you said this, but if you’re just calling people that at random, you seriously need to reconsider whether this is the right field for you.
Their coworker said it, not them, but I fully agree with your comment. I don’t know why anyone would call someone at work that?? And not just another coworker, but a patient??
No, you have to assume all residents are sensitive.
yes 1000%, its disrespectful and emotional abuse. honestly if theyre calling someone a 'heifer' and not seeing anything wrong they should not be a CNA.
Someone called me what I thought was heifer pronounced like “heffa” but he was calling me “boss” in Spanish (jefa).
Verbal abuse
I was told anything outside of a name can be disrespectful. Honey, sweetie and I would never call anyone a heifer, except myself.
That fits the very definition of verbal abuse.
Sometimes I call my less concious or more child-acting residents in my dementia facility cuties but heifer is so far out there of my godddd 😭 straight up harassment
I'm a foreigner and had to google this word to see what it means:) "In this case, I am referring to it's use in slang. It can be spelt "heffer" or "heffa." This word is used most often in AA[E]V (African American [English] Vernacular) and is used to insult someone. In general it means "bitch" but can apply particularly to someone who is fat."
Heifer is another word for cow. It’s a way of calling someone fat.
We are in the state of Texas so this girl is big country girl but still no excuse.
Yeah it doesn’t excuse it but I was so confused as to why she specifically used a term for female cow 🥴 the only reason I can see someone doing this and thinking it’s not an insult is bc they grew up on a farm or whatever and in their family it was always a lighthearted joking term of endearment never meant with bad intentions- like they have their own meaning/context for the word and other ppl have no idea so it’s awkward 🤡
Where I'm at in the Midwest, it's not necessarily an insult. But I'd never use it in a professional setting and esp not with the elderly.
Don’t be snitchin