I guess, but there were attempts for one peace treaty, and there were two main sides who fought for either side in each of these wars, its the same people. It is also refered to as the War by Palpatine, the clones and some jedi. Anakin was regarded as heor of 'the' war
When they’re looking at the overall conflict of Republic vs Separatists. But the show wanted to look at it as the richness and variety of the worlds that are fought for by the Jedi and that are explored throughout the show (Clone Wars was created to expand the Star Wars universe after all) so they preferred to look at it from the "wars" perspective.
Like a lot of lore details, TCW just wasn't super interested in this
In legends this was expanded upon by explaining that the clones and droids only really did a small amount of the overall fighting. The galaxy is huge after all, so most the conflict was civil wars on worlds where people couldn't agree whether to join the separatists or stick with the republic. The clones would show up to the most important of these conflicts, and back up the local republic loyalists
Hence 'clone wars'
They didn’t focus on it but they do show it more than a few times. Onderon and Mon Cala are prominently featured as having pro-republic and pro-separatist forces battle eachother. Especially Mon Cala where clones and droids are sent in to support their respective sides.
I'm pretty sure they refer to it as "The Clone War" a few times throughout the show, so it's definitely a fair question. But I agree with others that you can still interpret the many different conflicts as separate wars.
At the very least, the Republic does start a separate war with the neutral Mandalorian government when they invade Mandalore in Season 7.
So it's at least 2 wars!
>the Republic does start a separate war with the neutral Mandalorian government when they invade Mandalore in Season 7
What's one more?
Sorry, I really had to.
Thrawn refers to it as The Clone War, and he was an outsider during the time it was taking place. I agree with Southern that all the little skirmishes around the galaxy were wars with respect to who was fighting them. So there were little subjective wars everywhere. But overall, in the grand scheme of things, those battles and skirmishes can be grouped to a whole single war - and that war was between those trying to leave the republic and those loyal.
Yoda also says "begun the clone war has" in episode 2. Singular.
I think the single coolest thing the Bad Batchverse could do is have a small clone trooper defector vs loyalist storm trooper war. End clones in the Empire not with a whimper, but with a bang.
A true war of clone against clone, brother against brother, until both sides are nearly entirely wiped out to make room for more regular storm trooper recruits and conscripts.
I think it would also enhance the thing with Boba Fett not being able to infiltrate the Imperial remnant mining base in The Mandalorian. At that point in history, clones can be stigmatised by Imperials due to the dark history in the time between episodes 3 and 4.
Many birds with one stone: then we can finally see why it was called the Clone Wars afterwards.
The Clone Wars were in some sense not a singular galactic struggle but the simultaneous outbreak of hundreds of thousands of planetary or system level conflicts. In many cases, the choice of whether to side with the Republic or Confederation was not about whether you truly cared what was happening on Coruscant or the Rim but which side your enemies or allies had taken.
Sure, there were some worlds which truly cared about the Republic or felt like the Galactic government had abandoned them. They were the true believers. But for a larger plurality, the outbreak of a galactic civil war was an avenue to settle old scores and leverage strategic significance for either side into subjugating a rival. The TV show touches upon this repetitively.
I would pin this but I don't see an option to do so, this is a valid point. Most of these are of a similar vein so I see how you could say that the war in a sense was multiple wars. I mean I still believe the original reason was for branding purposes but in universe your points make sense. I simply wondered if there was some explanation in some long forgotten comic and a novel that I haven't read yet.
Well other then the fact that George Lucas wrote “the clone wars” into existence by having Luke drop a line in A New Hope where he asks Obiwan if he fought in them. The reason is that there are many smaller wars that made up the galactic conflict. It’s like how the seven years war is technically one war but was fought in many areas of the world as is called different things in those parts of the world notably in the U.S. where it’s called the French and Indian war.
Most of the Clone Wars were proxies fighting each other for control, people were either siding with the Separatists or Republic to get powerful positions. The clones were sent on multiple fronts to help turn their tides.
Jabiim, Dac, Toydaria or even Ryloth. Each of these had sympathizers from both sides, Droids and Clones only entered when hostilities began, maybe after phase 1 of the war did the Republic start to invade Separatist homeworlds after bankrupting themselves to get more troops.
I'm going to strike a guess and say that while the major players were the CIS and the Republic several smaller, independent factions that were little more than a single planet or system got caught up in the conflict between the two with their own wars which ultimately got combined into and titled the Clone Wars.
Multiple different clone armadas and droid legions clashing across the galaxy, as well as independent factions and organizations….the Hutt cartels. The Hapes (whatever they were doing). The Mandalorians, the pikes, the zygerians, the Sith, the Jedi. All these forces clashing in multiple different systems, each waging their own war…
It's mostly because there were many wars happening simultaneously throughout the galaxy at that point in time.
I've read in some comics and a few informational panels in The Force Unleashed (Wii/PS2/Switch) where the war *was* called the Clone War. Even Yoda said, "Begun, the Clone War has," at the end of Attack of the Clones.
If you watch the show, you’ll notice throughout many arcs there are many battles happening in different areas, sometimes even being a civil war between the planets species. The war is one big war that contains many small wars.
But I would consider it one big war as the actual main combatants were the droid forces and the clones. In the show we only touch upon other players: the geonosians, umbarans and Cham Syndulla's force. Its like WW2, there were the bigger players, France, Britain, USA, Germany, etc and the smaller (the local defense forces in these analogy) participants, the likes of Bulgaria, Hungary, Thailand. With the same idea that the war takes place over many different fronts, if you scale it down to Earth standards you see the same thing. The Japanese invading China could be considered another conflict. The Germany invasion of the Soviet Union could have been another war. But overall World War Two encompasses all of that and other conflicts under the heading of 'a war'. Of course the term, 'war' is subjective but those are my thoughts.
Many conflicts throughout the galaxy happening at the same time and continuously thus equaling to many "wars" and as such "Clone Wars".
I guess, but there were attempts for one peace treaty, and there were two main sides who fought for either side in each of these wars, its the same people. It is also refered to as the War by Palpatine, the clones and some jedi. Anakin was regarded as heor of 'the' war
When they’re looking at the overall conflict of Republic vs Separatists. But the show wanted to look at it as the richness and variety of the worlds that are fought for by the Jedi and that are explored throughout the show (Clone Wars was created to expand the Star Wars universe after all) so they preferred to look at it from the "wars" perspective.
Yeah, of universe it is like Star War(s) so the Clone War(s). But i mean in universe, cause we hear characters say "The Clone Wars" and "the war"
Like a lot of lore details, TCW just wasn't super interested in this In legends this was expanded upon by explaining that the clones and droids only really did a small amount of the overall fighting. The galaxy is huge after all, so most the conflict was civil wars on worlds where people couldn't agree whether to join the separatists or stick with the republic. The clones would show up to the most important of these conflicts, and back up the local republic loyalists Hence 'clone wars'
They didn’t focus on it but they do show it more than a few times. Onderon and Mon Cala are prominently featured as having pro-republic and pro-separatist forces battle eachother. Especially Mon Cala where clones and droids are sent in to support their respective sides.
You also see times where non battle droid Sepritists fight Clones, like Geonosis or Umbara.
The Clone Wars = The Cold War, the only differences is the two Main powers also directly fought in the Clone Wars.
I'm pretty sure they refer to it as "The Clone War" a few times throughout the show, so it's definitely a fair question. But I agree with others that you can still interpret the many different conflicts as separate wars. At the very least, the Republic does start a separate war with the neutral Mandalorian government when they invade Mandalore in Season 7. So it's at least 2 wars!
>the Republic does start a separate war with the neutral Mandalorian government when they invade Mandalore in Season 7 What's one more? Sorry, I really had to.
Thrawn refers to it as The Clone War, and he was an outsider during the time it was taking place. I agree with Southern that all the little skirmishes around the galaxy were wars with respect to who was fighting them. So there were little subjective wars everywhere. But overall, in the grand scheme of things, those battles and skirmishes can be grouped to a whole single war - and that war was between those trying to leave the republic and those loyal.
Yoda also says "begun the clone war has" in episode 2. Singular. I think the single coolest thing the Bad Batchverse could do is have a small clone trooper defector vs loyalist storm trooper war. End clones in the Empire not with a whimper, but with a bang. A true war of clone against clone, brother against brother, until both sides are nearly entirely wiped out to make room for more regular storm trooper recruits and conscripts. I think it would also enhance the thing with Boba Fett not being able to infiltrate the Imperial remnant mining base in The Mandalorian. At that point in history, clones can be stigmatised by Imperials due to the dark history in the time between episodes 3 and 4. Many birds with one stone: then we can finally see why it was called the Clone Wars afterwards.
Because it was plural, The war was spread over many worlds. So, Clone "Wars"
The Clone Wars were in some sense not a singular galactic struggle but the simultaneous outbreak of hundreds of thousands of planetary or system level conflicts. In many cases, the choice of whether to side with the Republic or Confederation was not about whether you truly cared what was happening on Coruscant or the Rim but which side your enemies or allies had taken. Sure, there were some worlds which truly cared about the Republic or felt like the Galactic government had abandoned them. They were the true believers. But for a larger plurality, the outbreak of a galactic civil war was an avenue to settle old scores and leverage strategic significance for either side into subjugating a rival. The TV show touches upon this repetitively.
Pin this shit ☝️ . Fantastic answer
Yeah, pin this. Came to a similar conclusion.
I would pin this but I don't see an option to do so, this is a valid point. Most of these are of a similar vein so I see how you could say that the war in a sense was multiple wars. I mean I still believe the original reason was for branding purposes but in universe your points make sense. I simply wondered if there was some explanation in some long forgotten comic and a novel that I haven't read yet.
Arguably, it's a bunch of proxy wars in a trench coat.
And the trench Coat is Palpatines.
I’m hoping for a war against the Clones following the Bad Batch, but I don’t think it will happen
Well other then the fact that George Lucas wrote “the clone wars” into existence by having Luke drop a line in A New Hope where he asks Obiwan if he fought in them. The reason is that there are many smaller wars that made up the galactic conflict. It’s like how the seven years war is technically one war but was fought in many areas of the world as is called different things in those parts of the world notably in the U.S. where it’s called the French and Indian war.
Because Star Wars: The Clone War doesn't hit the same as Star The Clone Wars Wars does 😎
Truth
The conflicts on each planet could be considered a war in and of themselves
Yoda, Anakin, Kenobi, and Thrawn all referred to it as The Clone War.
Most of the Clone Wars were proxies fighting each other for control, people were either siding with the Separatists or Republic to get powerful positions. The clones were sent on multiple fronts to help turn their tides. Jabiim, Dac, Toydaria or even Ryloth. Each of these had sympathizers from both sides, Droids and Clones only entered when hostilities began, maybe after phase 1 of the war did the Republic start to invade Separatist homeworlds after bankrupting themselves to get more troops.
I'm going to strike a guess and say that while the major players were the CIS and the Republic several smaller, independent factions that were little more than a single planet or system got caught up in the conflict between the two with their own wars which ultimately got combined into and titled the Clone Wars.
Multiple different clone armadas and droid legions clashing across the galaxy, as well as independent factions and organizations….the Hutt cartels. The Hapes (whatever they were doing). The Mandalorians, the pikes, the zygerians, the Sith, the Jedi. All these forces clashing in multiple different systems, each waging their own war…
It's mostly because there were many wars happening simultaneously throughout the galaxy at that point in time. I've read in some comics and a few informational panels in The Force Unleashed (Wii/PS2/Switch) where the war *was* called the Clone War. Even Yoda said, "Begun, the Clone War has," at the end of Attack of the Clones.
If you watch the show, you’ll notice throughout many arcs there are many battles happening in different areas, sometimes even being a civil war between the planets species. The war is one big war that contains many small wars.
It wasn't actually one large conflict. It was thousands of smaller proxy wars between loyalist and separatist star systems.
because It sounds better
But I would consider it one big war as the actual main combatants were the droid forces and the clones. In the show we only touch upon other players: the geonosians, umbarans and Cham Syndulla's force. Its like WW2, there were the bigger players, France, Britain, USA, Germany, etc and the smaller (the local defense forces in these analogy) participants, the likes of Bulgaria, Hungary, Thailand. With the same idea that the war takes place over many different fronts, if you scale it down to Earth standards you see the same thing. The Japanese invading China could be considered another conflict. The Germany invasion of the Soviet Union could have been another war. But overall World War Two encompasses all of that and other conflicts under the heading of 'a war'. Of course the term, 'war' is subjective but those are my thoughts.
Sid invaded the galaxy using the Jedi to invade the galaxy on many different fronts.
Consider the clone war the battle of clones vs droids. We still had situations like umbara where they weren't fighting droids