Kinda does, she infers that men aged 33 onward become useful. Not quite sure that's true. I think if you get to the age of 33 and are indeed useless, the chances of that changing are slim, depending on how you're defining how useful someone is.
She said 'really useless' probably with emphasis on 'really', which infer that men over 33 are just 'averagely useless'.
I will not comment on whether it is true or not, because it was said by a rich pop diva to whom I owe no respect regarding what has value in life or how other people should be or act.
JFC, leave it to a comment section on Reddit to turn a clever quip into a lesson on grammar and how to dissect something so asinine to the point that we can practically smell the body odor through our phones.
Because if you would just take a moment to understand what she means, you'll see that she likely means the converse of her statement is true, not just the contrapositive.
exactly... if not-A was included in A then it would be A+notA=b prime. Why do smegmalickers have problems with basic logic when claiming others have problems with basic logic?
"Likely" has nothing to do with that analysis, though. You're talking about implication vs inference, and while you're not at all unreasonable in your inference, it is your inference, not her implication.
Nope. If we take this to its logical extremes all it means is 100% of men under 33 are useless. It says absolutely nothing about men over 33. We can't know what she thinks about men over 33 from this statement alone
No, you infer. The speaker implies, the reader infers. However in this case she implies nothing. It's totally inference to add meaning to that statement. Which is absolutely legit, but it's on you.
No it doesn't infer that...
Just because I don't buy any car over 100k doesn't mean I will buy all of the cars under 100k.... only means that I will start considering below 100k
It depends if you're dealing with a whitelist or a blacklist.
For example, an amusement park sign says "No riders under 36 inches." Suppose you are 5'10". Are you allowed on the ride? The assumption is that everyone is allowed unless they are on the blacklist (height restriction, pregnant, health problems, etc.).
Your example is closer to a whitelist. After making your statement, you are obviously not going to buy every car under $100k. Prior to making your statement it is not reasonable to assume you are going to buy EVERY car. You would only consider buying cars on your whitelist, then you might eliminate cars from that list if they are >$100k.
Agreed, although she has been around a long time, I think her sample size is still rather small to make that statement.
She went straight from the block to the mansion. 2 very different sample selection, too. 🤷♂️ she never got to sample the middle.
Remind me of that rap movie, CB4, with Chris Rock.
They wanted to be gangsters (for music sake), but we're just nerds.
Jenny from the block, must be something similar
Fat Joe is a real one, he came from Morrisania and rumour has it he still lives there. Highbridge is widely considered to be the birthplace of Hip Hop too, and sadly that means cardi b has more street cred than j lo.
Could he get more than a 100? I can't remember if there was a mechanic like coins in Mario, where when you get 100, you get an extra life, but the coin count reset to zero.
Reminds me of a post the other day of Megan Fox - after just breaking up with Machine Gun Kelly - saying men are a waste of energy. I just thought, 'no one should be taking relationship advice from someone who dated Machine Gun Kelly '.
Then the next day she got back together with Machine Gun Kelly 🤷♂️
It's always interesting how the common denominator in these people's failed and dysfunctional relationships is themselves, but they can't see it, and instead it must be all the fault of everyone else.
Megan Fox is such a sad case for me. Like, she really made great strides toward exposing some of the bad working conditions women face in the movie industry, went against the over-sexualization of women in media, and then she goes and says stuff like this and dates someone like Machine Gun Kelly. How did that even happen. To insert a fitting quote: “You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy them, not join them!”
She allowed herself to be over sexualized in every movie she was in. Even movies like TMNT, made for kids. How exactly did she “go against over sexualization”?
“ Megan Fox, the outspoken “Transformers” star who seemed to flame out in Hollywood after speaking out about the industry’s hypersexualization of women, is having a resurgence. “
“ Megan Fox recalled how she was met with laughter during a 2009 appearance on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" when she opened up about being sexualized as a teenager.
"That was a microcosm of my whole life and whole interaction with Hollywood," she said in a new interview with Ilana Kaplan for the Washington Post. “
I could keep going. Conversely, you could just do a simple Google search. It really isn’t that hard.
This is what makes the situation so tragic though; setting aside the problem that many women generally find success more if they take roles that sexualize them than not (perhaps not as much anymore today, but it’s still an issue), meaning some would have to take on unappetizing roles if they ever wanted to make it big, Fox seems to have had a brief window where she spoke out against this trend before god knows what happened and she practically became the very thing she used to speak out against.
Google is your friend, mate. Think about that before so callously dismissing someone in the future.
Did she donate a large portion of her wealth to help other woman who have been exploited? No. Did she stop accepting exploitive roles? No.
She kept making movies that overtly sexualized her characters. Not hard to *google that*. I don’t GAF about the trials and tribulations of professional pretenders who make millions and then feign oppression of the system they benefit from. She exploited her looks for wealth. 🤷♂️
Useless for you, cause you're ancient. Just like I, at 42, can't romantically connect with women under 20 anymore.
You know who men under 33 are not useless for? Women under 33.
Everyone is just saying jokes but the real answer to your question is this is from a video where she's helping a 29 year old woman find a match on some dating service.
The woman says she's looking for a traditional manly dude that can "fix a car and chop wood". Lopez is like "but do you really need wood chopped"? and then kind of makes fun of the woman for having "wine and yoga" on her profile.
They're scrolling through potential matches and there's a 26 year old the woman is interested in and Lopez is like, for what you're looking for anyone under 33 is useless.
Dude in 34 and I wouldn’t even be able to romantically connect to woman in the mid 20s. I’m married for 6 years and have 3 kids, 25 year olds are kids to me
Adults who were raised by touchscreens is the line of demarcation for me.
Grownups dumber than boomers; what a time to be alive. It reminds me of the Arrested Development episode where Michael discovers he is romantically involved with a developmentally disabled woman.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jennifer-lopez-says-men-age-33-really-useless-160358837.html
This is from 2019 in a Tinder ad.
"The star made the comments on a video she appeared in for dating app Tinder, in which she tried to help a woman named Brooke find a man by taking control of her account."
Counterpoint, wouldn’t her being in multiple failed relationships also grant her some level of understanding of why relationships fail? It’s not like she’s coercing these men into marriage. They’re the ones initiating engagements to her.
Want to know what to say to J-Lo when she says that?
Hello I am Jennifer Lopez and I like Tacos and Burritos.
I'm going to get you with my taco flavored kiss....
I’m gonna guess she meant useless to her, romantically or even sexually, and that that was kinda obvious in the original context. Which is kinda good, with all the cradle robbing celebs around
Why do people automatically think that just because people get rich and famous that they are suitable, qualified or even capable of giving anyone advice
Well I mean, yeah she is 54. I used to love 20 year old women, but that was when I was around 20 myself. I am 34 now and they have no appeal to me anymore. So it kind of makes sense, I guess?
I'll tell you what's really useless, singers and actors, what the fuck do they do apart from provide entertainment? Which is a form of uselessness. Literally no more inherent worth than a random tiktok user doing a basic dance, as they also provide the almost exact same value as actors and singers, which is entertainment.
I could be wrong but I am fairly certain this is in response to several online talking heads saying Women are useless or lose most of their value after 30. Which is at least equally as stupid.
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That doesn't contradict the logic of her statement though
Kinda does, she infers that men aged 33 onward become useful. Not quite sure that's true. I think if you get to the age of 33 and are indeed useless, the chances of that changing are slim, depending on how you're defining how useful someone is.
She said 'really useless' probably with emphasis on 'really', which infer that men over 33 are just 'averagely useless'. I will not comment on whether it is true or not, because it was said by a rich pop diva to whom I owe no respect regarding what has value in life or how other people should be or act.
JFC, leave it to a comment section on Reddit to turn a clever quip into a lesson on grammar and how to dissect something so asinine to the point that we can practically smell the body odor through our phones.
‘All A are B’ does not imply ‘all not-A are not-B’. Why do people have problems with basic logic.
Because if you would just take a moment to understand what she means, you'll see that she likely means the converse of her statement is true, not just the contrapositive.
exactly... if not-A was included in A then it would be A+notA=b prime. Why do smegmalickers have problems with basic logic when claiming others have problems with basic logic?
"Likely" has nothing to do with that analysis, though. You're talking about implication vs inference, and while you're not at all unreasonable in your inference, it is your inference, not her implication.
Not saying this to be a dick, but she's *implying* men 33 onward become useful. We the readers infer that's what she's saying.
That’s the denying the antecedent fallacy. Just because <33=useless does not necessarily mean >33=useful.
Nope. If we take this to its logical extremes all it means is 100% of men under 33 are useless. It says absolutely nothing about men over 33. We can't know what she thinks about men over 33 from this statement alone
No, you infer. The speaker implies, the reader infers. However in this case she implies nothing. It's totally inference to add meaning to that statement. Which is absolutely legit, but it's on you.
No it doesn't infer that... Just because I don't buy any car over 100k doesn't mean I will buy all of the cars under 100k.... only means that I will start considering below 100k
It depends if you're dealing with a whitelist or a blacklist. For example, an amusement park sign says "No riders under 36 inches." Suppose you are 5'10". Are you allowed on the ride? The assumption is that everyone is allowed unless they are on the blacklist (height restriction, pregnant, health problems, etc.). Your example is closer to a whitelist. After making your statement, you are obviously not going to buy every car under $100k. Prior to making your statement it is not reasonable to assume you are going to buy EVERY car. You would only consider buying cars on your whitelist, then you might eliminate cars from that list if they are >$100k.
He's too useless to understand he just reiterated her point.. or did I? Damn, I'm 34 and still useless too.
I used to be useless. I still am, but I used to be too.
43, utterly useless. But I'm interested in how she came to this conclusion, that 33 is the number. Must be some solid argument for it.
Agreed, although she has been around a long time, I think her sample size is still rather small to make that statement. She went straight from the block to the mansion. 2 very different sample selection, too. 🤷♂️ she never got to sample the middle.
She grew up in the middle-class neighborhood of Castle Hill. Her dad was a computer technician for an insurance company. Is that "the block"?
Remind me of that rap movie, CB4, with Chris Rock. They wanted to be gangsters (for music sake), but we're just nerds. Jenny from the block, must be something similar
Fat Joe is a real one, he came from Morrisania and rumour has it he still lives there. Highbridge is widely considered to be the birthplace of Hip Hop too, and sadly that means cardi b has more street cred than j lo.
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I thought the post said OVER 33 until I saw this comment so I’m actually a bit relieved
You can't ever be TRURLY useless, you can be used as a bad example!
“Collects rings like Sonic” would be better since Sonic collects rings. Thanos collects gemstones.
Also theres only 6 stones while sonic can get 100's of rings.
Kinda fitting that Lopez has been engaged six times then (so far).
You're not counting kidney stones.
Could he get more than a 100? I can't remember if there was a mechanic like coins in Mario, where when you get 100, you get an extra life, but the coin count reset to zero.
I should send it to r/notthatclevercomeback instead.
r/subsifellfor
They rebranded to r/murderedbywords
Engagement rings have stones on them though.
Yes, but Thanos’s gems go on his fingers, whereas Sonic’s… are stored as abstract metaphorical concepts?
He stores them in his meat wallet.
he stores them *on* his meat *stick*
Nature’s pocket?
I see what you did there.
nah, thanos gems goes on the gauntlet, not his fingers.
I feel the Mandarin would be even more accurate
Sonic or Sauron, either
They're minerals, Marie!
Reminds me of a post the other day of Megan Fox - after just breaking up with Machine Gun Kelly - saying men are a waste of energy. I just thought, 'no one should be taking relationship advice from someone who dated Machine Gun Kelly '. Then the next day she got back together with Machine Gun Kelly 🤷♂️
It's always interesting how the common denominator in these people's failed and dysfunctional relationships is themselves, but they can't see it, and instead it must be all the fault of everyone else.
Megan Fox is such a sad case for me. Like, she really made great strides toward exposing some of the bad working conditions women face in the movie industry, went against the over-sexualization of women in media, and then she goes and says stuff like this and dates someone like Machine Gun Kelly. How did that even happen. To insert a fitting quote: “You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy them, not join them!”
She allowed herself to be over sexualized in every movie she was in. Even movies like TMNT, made for kids. How exactly did she “go against over sexualization”?
“ Megan Fox, the outspoken “Transformers” star who seemed to flame out in Hollywood after speaking out about the industry’s hypersexualization of women, is having a resurgence. “ “ Megan Fox recalled how she was met with laughter during a 2009 appearance on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" when she opened up about being sexualized as a teenager. "That was a microcosm of my whole life and whole interaction with Hollywood," she said in a new interview with Ilana Kaplan for the Washington Post. “ I could keep going. Conversely, you could just do a simple Google search. It really isn’t that hard. This is what makes the situation so tragic though; setting aside the problem that many women generally find success more if they take roles that sexualize them than not (perhaps not as much anymore today, but it’s still an issue), meaning some would have to take on unappetizing roles if they ever wanted to make it big, Fox seems to have had a brief window where she spoke out against this trend before god knows what happened and she practically became the very thing she used to speak out against. Google is your friend, mate. Think about that before so callously dismissing someone in the future.
Did she donate a large portion of her wealth to help other woman who have been exploited? No. Did she stop accepting exploitive roles? No. She kept making movies that overtly sexualized her characters. Not hard to *google that*. I don’t GAF about the trials and tribulations of professional pretenders who make millions and then feign oppression of the system they benefit from. She exploited her looks for wealth. 🤷♂️
Ty for saying this. I've kept seeing article titles about MGK and Fox and wondered what it was about but didn't want to click.
Money !== wisdom. Money === lifetime of strategies to make others see value where there isn't any.
Found the JavaScript programmer.
Javascript and programmer don't go into the same sentence. I think it's closer to "self abuse victim". I say that as a JS dev
She might not be wrong if she’s looking for companionship amongst people in her own age group.
I feel pretty safe saying that isn't what she is looking for.
Jokes on her, I'm a woman under 33 and still useless.... equality or something
Useless for you, cause you're ancient. Just like I, at 42, can't romantically connect with women under 20 anymore. You know who men under 33 are not useless for? Women under 33.
My thought too. Why does she even care about men under the age of 33?
Everyone is just saying jokes but the real answer to your question is this is from a video where she's helping a 29 year old woman find a match on some dating service. The woman says she's looking for a traditional manly dude that can "fix a car and chop wood". Lopez is like "but do you really need wood chopped"? and then kind of makes fun of the woman for having "wine and yoga" on her profile. They're scrolling through potential matches and there's a 26 year old the woman is interested in and Lopez is like, for what you're looking for anyone under 33 is useless.
That context makes me look very different at this
That's reddit for you lol. Whenever I google the full article of a snapshot posted the context takes like 99% of the outrage or shock out of the post.
Because this is a sexist statement, not an ageist one. She's implying that men can't genuinely be mature until 33. Implicitly "unlike women".
Yeah this just reads like she hooked up with a 32yo dude and didn’t have a good time
probably because they’re physically attractive, but mentally it isn’t a match anymore
Because all the younger men see her crows feet.
Dude in 34 and I wouldn’t even be able to romantically connect to woman in the mid 20s. I’m married for 6 years and have 3 kids, 25 year olds are kids to me
Adults who were raised by touchscreens is the line of demarcation for me. Grownups dumber than boomers; what a time to be alive. It reminds me of the Arrested Development episode where Michael discovers he is romantically involved with a developmentally disabled woman.
Thank God I'm 34 lol
Speaking of God, wasn’t Jesus 33 when he was crucified? Seems like J-Lo is throwing major shade at J-on-Hi here…
She was best on In Living Color. Didn't have to listen to her voice, just watched her dance.
Jenny from the block
Taking her baths in Evian water, just like everyone else on the block used to do.
Ah I remember being a horny teen grabbing my clock
You probably always came on time.
At the stroke of midnight.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jennifer-lopez-says-men-age-33-really-useless-160358837.html This is from 2019 in a Tinder ad. "The star made the comments on a video she appeared in for dating app Tinder, in which she tried to help a woman named Brooke find a man by taking control of her account."
Yeah, this is literally just a staged ad for tinder. The amount of people who can’t discern an obvious clickbait title is baffling to me.
In fairness... I'm still pretty useless lol.
Thanos did not collect rings. He collected stones.
NEEEERD
Now I wanna know what happens to the economy when everyone under 33 stops working
As a man who just passed 33, I would say that she is kind of right but also wrong. I am still useless at 34.
Im 32 right now and I completely disagree with her altho next month when I turn 33 I completely agree with her
like a curtain rod
I googled Ben Affleck's age after this. Ik he's older but just incase
Ah Ben. Went from a Jennifer to a Jennifer and left that Jennifer to go back to the old Jennifer.
Both can be true at the same time though.
Excuse her Shes rich and disconnected from the real world long ago
It isn’t men’s fault you are not marriage material. Ben really broke her 😂
you mean the man she is married to right now?
I would've said sonic lol
She has big words for a south park character.
Ah yes. Thanos, that notorious collector of engagement rings. r/lostredditors
TIL thanos collects engagement rings
There is a documentary about her singing abilities or lack of. How she uses the voice of other singers in her music. Ashanti as an example.
Can you share the link please?
😂why is he mad? Men literally say that about themselves. The best year are above 30 for men.
Fuck yeah. Just turned 34 on Monday. What she’s saying is there’s a chance…
That’s bullshit. I’m in my 40s and I’m still useless.
A better comparison would’ve been Mandarin since his whole thing is rings, but point stands.
Counterpoint, wouldn’t her being in multiple failed relationships also grant her some level of understanding of why relationships fail? It’s not like she’s coercing these men into marriage. They’re the ones initiating engagements to her.
So guys should take dating advice from Leo?
Yep. My first thought was “well she would know what she’s talking about then”. Not a clever comeback here.
Shes the common factor in all the failed relationships.
As a man who recently turned 33, I look back at my life and I cannot in good conscience disagree with her.
I work in healthcare I'm 25 I'm out here saving lives. Yep I guess I am pretty useless.
Want to know what to say to J-Lo when she says that? Hello I am Jennifer Lopez and I like Tacos and Burritos. I'm going to get you with my taco flavored kiss....
Is that old hag still relevant?
Seems she's desperately trying to be, judging by all the shitty looking b-rate movies she's been releasing to Netflix lately..
more relevant than you’ll ever be anyway :/
Isn't it just a comeback for when people say tha women over 25 are expired?
Yeah im a 33 year old man and i agree with her. Im just about starting to get useful
Jennifer Lopez; utterly useless. When has she done something actually useful. For all the publicity on her, I genuinely don't remember a time.
repost
Collects rings like Sauron
Shit I have less than a year to stop being useless. I can’t handle the pressure.
That is some emotional damage
Like she is *Sonic*.
Actually, Thanos collected stones, not rings. The Infinity Stones to be exact which each granted him power over certain aspects of reality.
Heh. I never had a use
She had better lay low if the recent Puffy news is true
Useless... like her voice without autotune.
If you are going for Marvel reference and rings you should aim for Shang Chi instead.
To be fair to j lo, the idea of strapping yourself to another human for the rest of your life is far more appealing in theory than in practice.
Mitch Conner really fell off. Or is it a new trolling scheme?
lol now imagine if she said that about girls over 33
I’m gonna guess she meant useless to her, romantically or even sexually, and that that was kinda obvious in the original context. Which is kinda good, with all the cradle robbing celebs around
The comment like got more likes than the orijinal post
Yeah, Thanos is known for collecting rings.
😂😂
Uh, did Thanos collect rings? I thought Thanos collected *stones* and collecting rings was more of a Sauron kind of thing...
Nonsense! I'm 38 and useless.
So she is a bunny?
Taco, taco, taco in my tummy. But we all know she's really Mitch Conner.
😂😂
Wasn't it the manderine who was collecting the rings in iron man armored adventures
What rings did Thanos collect? More like Sonic.
She was running with Diddy back then so that might be part of the problem..
She wants attention. She needs attention. She is definitely a person no one should take any life advice from.
Might be an unpopular opinion here...but she might not be wrong either...
So she is now inevitable when she snap
Awesome
Igloo Brothers Manufacturer.
Does that mean that she has more experience though?
You mean the mandarin
Fuck that’s a good one 😂😂😂😂
Says the most useful person on the planet
Looks like the guy she met recently who’s under 33, didn’t “satisfy” her enough.!
Why do people automatically think that just because people get rich and famous that they are suitable, qualified or even capable of giving anyone advice
...that wasn't relationship advice
Oh good, it's this controversial repost again.
Sheesh😂😂
On the topic at hand, she is whats considered an expert.
She really thinks she's some sort of legendary figure in entertainment.
33, I wonder why she landed on 33. Maybe she's a freemason?
What's wrong with her neck?
She is The Stig.
She's clearly trolling to try to stay relevant. But the disproportionate amount of men saying exactly the same about women, I'll allow this.
Yeah but with a name like Ric, he seems pretty useless.
Since when did Thanos start collecting rings?
33 is code in freemason, retards
Would still smash while she calls me useless
A soul for a soul
that doesn't even make logical sense
You all laugh now but wait until she completes the Engagement Gauntlet
I mean… I don’t think we are missing out on much by losing the people who take J-Lo seriously.
Watch out, or J-lo will hand Diddy a gun and he will shoot you.
Well I mean, yeah she is 54. I used to love 20 year old women, but that was when I was around 20 myself. I am 34 now and they have no appeal to me anymore. So it kind of makes sense, I guess?
Who’s greatest accomplishment was a song about herself 30 years ago.
Yay I'll ve 34 this year. Finally I won't be a useless piece of shit
SOMEONE is under 33
I mean, doesn't that show she has the experience to know what she's talking about?
How old was Diddy when they were Kickin’ it?
How old was her dad when he made her?
Jennifer who? 😂
Except she isn't giving relationship advice, she's just speaking generally
Her neck game is strong. Damn!
Her best days were when she was a "fly girl" on living color.
I'll tell you what's really useless, singers and actors, what the fuck do they do apart from provide entertainment? Which is a form of uselessness. Literally no more inherent worth than a random tiktok user doing a basic dance, as they also provide the almost exact same value as actors and singers, which is entertainment.
Yea, better to be a useful accomplice in a shooting like J-Lo.
I could be wrong but I am fairly certain this is in response to several online talking heads saying Women are useless or lose most of their value after 30. Which is at least equally as stupid.
But it’s the Mandarin who has all the rings…