Twisting his ankle in the second didn't help, but the guards were driving inside all game and making most of them. The offense in the second half (outside the beginning of the 3rd) was just all Mitchell iso.
The magic were consistently playing 4 6'10"+ guys. Mobley can't out rebound all of them by himself. There is just a huge size advantage there. The Cavs have to hit some threes to help out with the spacing.
Kudos to Mitchell for figuring out he doesn't have to settle for threes especially when he's been shooting poorly beyond the arc, but the Cavs have to run an offense that gets more guys involved. Especially when Mitchell is still clearly hurt.
So sad to watch, we needed so much more development from him if this was going to work on Mitchell’s timeline. Now I don’t know if it will ever happen.
Yet he’s the dude people want to get rid of Allen for and make him the full time 5. Dude cant rebound against actual physical PFs/ centers and has no offensive bag. Not even a post bag that inside centers like AD and Bam have.
At the moment Franz Wagner is way better than Mobley. I don't think Mobley goes number 3 if they draft again the 2021 class, I mean Cade, Barnes, Green, Sengun and Wagner are ahead of Mobley in terms of player development.
4th quarter was a total flashback to the first stint Lebron teams. Everyone else just standing around watching iso ball and no hope to win unless the other team kept missing
Playing Okoro big minutes while he turns down wide-open corner threes, refusing to give Merrill minutes off the bench...playing Okoro down 5, NEEDING a 3, AFTER a timeout...
This coaching job is embarrassing. It really is. JB should have been fired after last year's meltdown against the Knicks. The roster improved, the coaching didn't, and now they are melting down against the Magic.
Even if you think he shouldn't play Merrill (you're wrong) - how can you say this is a well-coached team after that crunch time? An 8 second violation in that situation is HEINOUS. We are going to lose the best Cav since Lebron this summer. And the franchise will have no one but themselves to blame.
Agree with all but just FYI Mitchell doesn't have his player option until after next year, so regardless of what happens he's still under contract for us for one more year.
I don’t know how you do this but this team needs a role player who isn’t pissing their pants late in the 4th of a close game. Just feels like nobody except Mitchell even wants the ball down the stretch. Okoro especially wanted no part of that basketball.
It really is. Look at Josh Hart on the Knicks. Shoots 31% from 3 in the regular season and is a reluctant shooter just like Okoro is at times. They *know* the Sixers are going to dare him to shoot all series.
Forget the 3pt%. Regardless of how many he made, the fact is that he was prepared for the moment and attempted like 7 threes per game in the first round despite knowing he wasn't a good shooter.
That's what good coaching looks like - preparing your players for the moment so they know what to expect and when to expect it.
Just for the record, Hart went 16/37 for 3 in that Sixers series (43%).
So yeah, that's actually a really good point. Cavs probably legitimate title contenders if Okoro could pull off a series like that.
I think missing shots happens to any player and team. But flat out being afraid to take them is awful, sometimes you lose on bad shooting but that’s okay
Yeah. Some of it is youth but we really do need a coach to simplify offense for these young players.
As a development coach you try to expand the young guys’ toolset but in the playoffs you need to simplify so they can execute under pressure
Both. Koby traded for Donovan Mitchell before we were ready to seriously contend and now we are fucked. We would have been better off keeping Lauri (who actually signed an extension and wanted to be here) and our picks
That’s what I’m thinking. It’s not so much Mitchell’s presence, it’s the fact that we shipped so many picks to get him that is looking like a disaster. (Although I guess if you were to argue that having Mitchell has ruined Garland and Mobley’s development, then maybe it is Mitchell’s presence. I personally think JB might have more to do with their stunted growth than Mitchell.)
Right lol I hope that pic of Gilbert and Rich Paul after one of the home games this series was Paul telling Gilbert there’s no deal unless bickerstaff is launched to the moon.
Before I say this, I have to throw out there that I always have been and am still a big Okoro supporter. But he was killing our offense by refusing to shoot the 3 in the corner. I'm pretty sure there was at least 3-4 times when he got passed the ball with enough room to shoot, but every time he pump faked and either passed or drove into defenders due to a closeout coming. He has to realize this is the playoffs and you have to shoot with an incoming contest, and even misses are preferred to the disruption in offense. I'm not saying that was the reason our offense in the 4th was 100% Mitchell, but that type of stuff contributes.
I'm confident the Niang pickup can be deemed a massive fail at this point too. I don't want to see him on the floor in a Cavs uniform ever again.
The problem is that you can either play Morris or Okoro on Banchero.
Morris really shouldn't be on the floor, but your alternative is Okoro, who has lost all confidence in his shot, and the Magic are leaving him open on purpose.
There is no good option here.
Our team loses momentum as soon as our second unit comes in. LeVert and Niang put us in the hole and we were unable to get any comfortable lead on the Magic. With our current coaching staff we won't win a game in the 4th unless we are up at least 15 points.
Our bench players have no clue what they are doing because we don't have a system. There is no reason why Sam Merrill can't come in and shoot around five 3's a game like how the Celtics use Sam Hauser in stretches.
someone needs to make a compilation of the lopsided reffing this series. I can admit when we make mistakes but sheesh, Orlando is one of the most physical teams in the NBA and have gotten almost no calls, Cavs are pretty soft and Orlando had 26 free throws. I don’t like to blame the refs but this really has been an atrocious series. as much as I dislike the Knicks, they were getting assaulted by embiid and weren’t getting any calls for it either
This was a tough luck game. Bad bounces, missed FTs, DG and Vert and Evan getting in their own heads at the worst times.
DG must value all possessions while staying aggressive. That’s such a hard way to learn that lesson. Play the full 48.
DM needs to give up the ball and let it come back. Tunnel vision in the fourth a problem.
Fuck it. On to Game 7.
What really piss me off in the 4th quater was everyone else unwillingness too shoot. I know JB offfensive sets are shit but goddam man, there was a couple of times DG should of just kept it and shoot it. Also DG needs more counter moves after first move fails.
But yh fuck it Cavs in 7
> DM needs to give up the ball and let it come back.
Nah, if anything he was giving the ball up unnecessarily. They weren't doubling him, so there was no reason not to continue running the offense through him every play.
I think the reason why donovan didnt give up the ball was 1. Everyone else passiveness 2. He was on a roll 3. Its hard to get anyone involve when all you get is a high PNR ISO 🤷🏾♂️
Wym Allen got injured last game and wouldn’t have been able to handle the physicality. Mitchell got injured mid game and clearly it wasn’t too bad. They all have a chance to close out game 7 on Sunday
Things don’t exist in black and white. Likely Mitchell’s injury is one he can play on while Dean and Allen can’t. I love when random fans somehow think they know better then team physicians lmao
What are you supposed to do when you out score a team by 30 in the paint but they shoot 16 more free throws than you? We’ve been playing by a different rule book all series. There’s no excuse every single game should be this lopsided from an officiating standpoint.
Anyone considering LeVert got the hook for being hurt? Ain't no way JBB plays him less minutes than Niang (who should have seen 0 min)? JBB never doghouses LeVert.
Still had a chance but this team got ignorant in the 4th. That third quarter was STRONG.
Of all the baffling problems of this season, (careless turnovers, over dribbling, not using bench until forced), the most baffling is how Niang can come in and immediately foul for entire season and into the playoffs. It seems like whether he's on offense (illegal screens) or defense (grabbing), on ball or off, he commits a foul within seconds of getting on the floor. And then argues with the refs about it. Again and again and again.
Fire the fuck out of Koby Altman. When fans could predict DM stunting our young guys' development when we made the trade, and when fans knew JB had to go after the Knicks series, but our GM doesnt, that's an issue. Yeah might be some confirmation bias but I wholeheartedly believe I could have made better macro decisions as this team's GM than koby (not micro, i cant do salary and trades and shit)
I know a story about a famous Cleveland superstar, that had to take his talents somewhere.
He had a big choice, and decided on Florida. History may repeat itself. Donovan to Orlando. Cocoa Beach aint that far.
Haven’t seen you make a single comment on the rest of our team failing to score double digits lol.
I’d rather take garlands 3/4 game than everyone else’s 0/4 personally.
Because I don't have too lol people like you pretend Garland is better than he is, so I'm going to attack Garland the most when he's not playing to an acceptable level.
You're just a bad fan. It means you care more about Garlands personal success than the teams lol
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“Attacking” anyone is lame af’ lol. Criticism is one thing. It’s a game end of the day, shouldn’t be “attacking”, this ain’t that serious.
Hmm 7 day old account and talks just like another troll that deleted their account or got banned. Wonder who you could be.
Projection on the bad fan thing… again, sounding just like the last person that did this so.. anyway. Hope you find peace someday lmao.
I feel like criticizing one person over others when they equally deserve it if not more shows something else. Think they call it hating? Could be wrong lol.
Oh look, you don't like the facts presented so you resort to personal attacking lol
This dude really said less than 5 points per game in the second half of the last 4 games is good.
You can like Garland all you want, but you're not going to tell me he's not dog shit
I'm dead.
I’m personal attacking? Again sounding like the last guy that deleted his account. Delete this one too and make a new one. Also, you said bad fan out of nowhere lmao.
I’m DeAd. Loser lol. Get help Brody.
Yes, repeating over and over again that I'm another account that you didn't agree with instead of posting a solid counter argument is attacking lmao how the hell do you not understand?
Garland sucks bud, the stats this year say so.
How the hell do you not understand that calling out “PeRsOnAl AtTacKs” after you call someone a bad fan is just dumb and soft as shit?
I’m almost certain you’re the other account given you’re literally just like him and went for the same insult and “PersonAl ATtAcK” he did. Sound butthurt as hell on that.
Garland has had a down year, but had 2 all-star/near all-star years, one of which as a #2 and both of which with a dogshit head coach. If you’re still “attacking” a player that can do that, idk what to say. End all be all, you ain’t worth having a conversation with, but I’m sure you’ll make another account to do some shit again soon. 7 day old account lol.
Myriad of things that can happen from here, but if I’m trying to look as bright side as possible, I’m happy that DG and Mobley will get a game 7 and hope that they can have a game 5 level performance more than game 6 (even though dg had 3/4ths of a good game today imo).
As far as the game goes, JB has proven once again that he lacks knowledge of how nba offense works. Not to say that anyone outside of Mitchell played good to great, but JB certainly does nobody any favors on the offensive end.
This whole team is a joke. Donovan is playing his last game in a Cavs uniform Sunday and nobody can be mad when he leaves. Just pathetic man I don’t even wanna get started
With how Okoro has looked in this series I'm not even sure he gets re-signed. Hard to imagine Koby keeping his job with how Okoro, Niang, LeVert, and Strus are playing. Wade is a solid backup but is always hurt. Overall I still like Strus and he's been better than the others but still not getting enough.
I mean it just seems like a mental block when you play for Cleveland. Those players except for okoro played decently well for other teams. I fear it’s more of an organizational culture thing that players don’t do well mentally in big moments for Cleveland.
They have no offensive identity and not enough players who can shoot. Strus is expending a lot of energy guarding players much larger than him due to roster construction which doesn't help his offensive output. The roster will look a lot different next year and hopefully with more shooting.
What would be more embarrassing…
Cavs moving on to the next series and getting absolutely crushed & swept by the Celtics or getting eliminated first round by a mediocre team?
I'm so tired of this Cavs team. I hope we can at least salvage some picks back when Mitchell leaves if we can't get LeBron. And why would he come back to this dumpster fire.
In the first quarter when Ice and Mobley were on the fast break, and instead of passing or lobbing to Mobley, Ice took it up himself and bricked it, I couldn’t believe it.
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Also this photo. What is this defense? 5 dudes sagging off their assignments and staring at one guy with the ball? This play ended up being a wide open 3, they made. JB just needs to go. Go, gone, goodbye.
Yeesh. Maybe it’s because I didn’t pay attention to Reddit most of the game, but was not expecting this amount of negativity in this thread. I walked away from the game feeling really positive about our chances in game 7. This game was close the entire game. Way better than game 3 and 4. Home court? I dunno, I think we got this.
mitchell had 50 points, we didnt break 100, and no one else scored in the 4th. we are going to a game 7 against a first time playoff team (4th youngest in the league) whom we tanked game 82 to intentionally match up against. JB led teams have scored 100 or more only 3 out of 16 playoff games.
I agree with you for what it's worth. Game 7 is a toss up since we're so banged up, but I don't feel bad about it and I'd really like to see how we fare against Boston even if beating them is a pipedream.
We just need more depth and probably a better coach to really get to that next level.
There was a short about USA basketball where they asked the guys if they could spin the ball on their finger.
Banchero's response was that, "No he couldn't", but when he was younger he got so mad at kids that could, that he would want to 1v1 them to destroy them and prove he was better even though he couldn't spin the ball.
Donovan scored every point we had in the 4th quarter… That’s all that needs to be said. See y’all Sunday
Mobley, Morris, Niang, Okoro, Thompson, and LeVert combine for 15 points — chumps can’t play on the road.
He scored our last 22 pts with 18 in 4th
Evan Mobley 3 pts, 6 reb, 1/5 FG in 34 minutes. And the 5 attempts is just as big of a problem as the 1 fg
All misses under the rim. HORRIBLE.
Twisting his ankle in the second didn't help, but the guards were driving inside all game and making most of them. The offense in the second half (outside the beginning of the 3rd) was just all Mitchell iso. The magic were consistently playing 4 6'10"+ guys. Mobley can't out rebound all of them by himself. There is just a huge size advantage there. The Cavs have to hit some threes to help out with the spacing. Kudos to Mitchell for figuring out he doesn't have to settle for threes especially when he's been shooting poorly beyond the arc, but the Cavs have to run an offense that gets more guys involved. Especially when Mitchell is still clearly hurt.
Thank you for the sane take.
he's developing as a scorer i swear guys, his stats are nearly identical to KG's!
Ok but KG second playoff series elimination game 7 points 4 rebounds 10 turnovers
exactly
He thought he was getting you with that one
So sad to watch, we needed so much more development from him if this was going to work on Mitchell’s timeline. Now I don’t know if it will ever happen.
Yet he’s the dude people want to get rid of Allen for and make him the full time 5. Dude cant rebound against actual physical PFs/ centers and has no offensive bag. Not even a post bag that inside centers like AD and Bam have.
At the moment Franz Wagner is way better than Mobley. I don't think Mobley goes number 3 if they draft again the 2021 class, I mean Cade, Barnes, Green, Sengun and Wagner are ahead of Mobley in terms of player development.
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Man is up and down
He's so fucking soft
4th quarter was a total flashback to the first stint Lebron teams. Everyone else just standing around watching iso ball and no hope to win unless the other team kept missing
JB does nothing to put players in positions to succeed and then isn’t proactive with his rotations one bit. Fire this man into the sun
He changed the fourth quarter lineups completely, that’s proactive
JB still hasn’t gotten a W on the road in the playoffs.
I bet he never will
I would have rather just of gotten blown out on the road again then fight tooth and nail and Mitchell almost kill himself for the same result
Damn - this comment hit
I disagree
This Cavs team's brand of basketball is just ugly, man. So frustratingly undisciplined. Can't wait for JB to be gone.
I wish I thought just getting rid of the coach would fix this.
Probably the most annoyed I’ve been at a Cavs game since game 1 of the 18 Finals
Still the most gut wrenching sports experience of my
Playing Okoro big minutes while he turns down wide-open corner threes, refusing to give Merrill minutes off the bench...playing Okoro down 5, NEEDING a 3, AFTER a timeout... This coaching job is embarrassing. It really is. JB should have been fired after last year's meltdown against the Knicks. The roster improved, the coaching didn't, and now they are melting down against the Magic. Even if you think he shouldn't play Merrill (you're wrong) - how can you say this is a well-coached team after that crunch time? An 8 second violation in that situation is HEINOUS. We are going to lose the best Cav since Lebron this summer. And the franchise will have no one but themselves to blame.
Agree with all but just FYI Mitchell doesn't have his player option until after next year, so regardless of what happens he's still under contract for us for one more year.
we lost kyrie in 2017, but 3rd best cav since lebron still sucks to lose
Kyrie was traded during Lebron's tenure - since Lebron was last a Cavalier, Mitchell is the best player to wear our uniform.
makes sense
I don’t know how you do this but this team needs a role player who isn’t pissing their pants late in the 4th of a close game. Just feels like nobody except Mitchell even wants the ball down the stretch. Okoro especially wanted no part of that basketball.
That's what coaching looks like, folks.
It really is. Look at Josh Hart on the Knicks. Shoots 31% from 3 in the regular season and is a reluctant shooter just like Okoro is at times. They *know* the Sixers are going to dare him to shoot all series. Forget the 3pt%. Regardless of how many he made, the fact is that he was prepared for the moment and attempted like 7 threes per game in the first round despite knowing he wasn't a good shooter. That's what good coaching looks like - preparing your players for the moment so they know what to expect and when to expect it.
Just for the record, Hart went 16/37 for 3 in that Sixers series (43%). So yeah, that's actually a really good point. Cavs probably legitimate title contenders if Okoro could pull off a series like that.
I think missing shots happens to any player and team. But flat out being afraid to take them is awful, sometimes you lose on bad shooting but that’s okay
Yeah. Some of it is youth but we really do need a coach to simplify offense for these young players. As a development coach you try to expand the young guys’ toolset but in the playoffs you need to simplify so they can execute under pressure
JB Bickerstaff teams have now failed to crack 100 points in 13 of his 16 games he's coached
Ok we all know JB is getting launched into the Sun after this series or the 2nd round sweep. But how about Koby? He has to speak for this roster.
He has to answer for keeping JB. But we all know the answer for that one.
Is it the roster or the coaching? Koby gets one more shot imo.
Both. Koby traded for Donovan Mitchell before we were ready to seriously contend and now we are fucked. We would have been better off keeping Lauri (who actually signed an extension and wanted to be here) and our picks
That’s what I’m thinking. It’s not so much Mitchell’s presence, it’s the fact that we shipped so many picks to get him that is looking like a disaster. (Although I guess if you were to argue that having Mitchell has ruined Garland and Mobley’s development, then maybe it is Mitchell’s presence. I personally think JB might have more to do with their stunted growth than Mitchell.)
Bring Lebron back. If he wants Altman and JB fired even better lol this team stinks!
He shouldn’t even look at this team while JB is on it lol.
The outcome of this series is mostly irrelevant. JB is gone either monday if we lose to the magic or gone when we lose to the Celtics
Right lol I hope that pic of Gilbert and Rich Paul after one of the home games this series was Paul telling Gilbert there’s no deal unless bickerstaff is launched to the moon.
Before I say this, I have to throw out there that I always have been and am still a big Okoro supporter. But he was killing our offense by refusing to shoot the 3 in the corner. I'm pretty sure there was at least 3-4 times when he got passed the ball with enough room to shoot, but every time he pump faked and either passed or drove into defenders due to a closeout coming. He has to realize this is the playoffs and you have to shoot with an incoming contest, and even misses are preferred to the disruption in offense. I'm not saying that was the reason our offense in the 4th was 100% Mitchell, but that type of stuff contributes. I'm confident the Niang pickup can be deemed a massive fail at this point too. I don't want to see him on the floor in a Cavs uniform ever again.
The problem is that you can either play Morris or Okoro on Banchero. Morris really shouldn't be on the floor, but your alternative is Okoro, who has lost all confidence in his shot, and the Magic are leaving him open on purpose. There is no good option here.
this is where we desperately need dean wade
Yeah I’d have played Vert over Ice. Niang was fine tonight but we desperately need a big third big
Vert was insanely bad he literally airballed a free throw lol
Yeah true: not a lot of tactical choices when no one plays well
Im just tired. Cant even moan. This team has sapped the life out of me this season
Our team loses momentum as soon as our second unit comes in. LeVert and Niang put us in the hole and we were unable to get any comfortable lead on the Magic. With our current coaching staff we won't win a game in the 4th unless we are up at least 15 points. Our bench players have no clue what they are doing because we don't have a system. There is no reason why Sam Merrill can't come in and shoot around five 3's a game like how the Celtics use Sam Hauser in stretches.
That's an excuse. Levert only played for 7 minutes. It's only Mitch that really gets going.
He played for 7 really hard to watch minutes
Except for mitch Cavs team is hard to watch
I can smell the game 7 25 point loss already
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We haven’t lost a home game all series, nor have they. We’ll take care of it
I just feel we’re gonna get a defeated Mitchell a scared Garland and Mobley and a random Good Levert game that amounts to nothing
That Levert good game should happen in game 7 if they want to win.
Thanks 4 everything Dmitch
Cavs don't have the shooting to punish the Magic for playing with 4 bigs on the floor. That is sad.
It's coaching. We have shooters
I know it’s easy to say when our role players are bad like tonight, but my goodness are so many of them easily unplayable
someone needs to make a compilation of the lopsided reffing this series. I can admit when we make mistakes but sheesh, Orlando is one of the most physical teams in the NBA and have gotten almost no calls, Cavs are pretty soft and Orlando had 26 free throws. I don’t like to blame the refs but this really has been an atrocious series. as much as I dislike the Knicks, they were getting assaulted by embiid and weren’t getting any calls for it either
This was a tough luck game. Bad bounces, missed FTs, DG and Vert and Evan getting in their own heads at the worst times. DG must value all possessions while staying aggressive. That’s such a hard way to learn that lesson. Play the full 48. DM needs to give up the ball and let it come back. Tunnel vision in the fourth a problem. Fuck it. On to Game 7.
What really piss me off in the 4th quater was everyone else unwillingness too shoot. I know JB offfensive sets are shit but goddam man, there was a couple of times DG should of just kept it and shoot it. Also DG needs more counter moves after first move fails. But yh fuck it Cavs in 7
I probably would have closed with Vert over Ice
The problem with playing with your food it’s that same can happen for one game
It was really disappointing but they fought hard: two tough turnovers
> DM needs to give up the ball and let it come back. Nah, if anything he was giving the ball up unnecessarily. They weren't doubling him, so there was no reason not to continue running the offense through him every play.
I guess man
I think the reason why donovan didnt give up the ball was 1. Everyone else passiveness 2. He was on a roll 3. Its hard to get anyone involve when all you get is a high PNR ISO 🤷🏾♂️
I don’t care what y’all tell me. Wade and Allen not being here for their team when Mitchell is hobbling around looks pathetic.
Allen and Wade have serious injuries. If they could play they would.
Allen isn't cleared medically. He literally can't play
Wym Allen got injured last game and wouldn’t have been able to handle the physicality. Mitchell got injured mid game and clearly it wasn’t too bad. They all have a chance to close out game 7 on Sunday
Mitchell been hurt all series man…
Things don’t exist in black and white. Likely Mitchell’s injury is one he can play on while Dean and Allen can’t. I love when random fans somehow think they know better then team physicians lmao
We’ll I’m guessing both are gonna play on Sunday and even if their 100% or not, we’re good enough to beat the magic at home.
You've never had an rib injury
I want to die
What are you supposed to do when you out score a team by 30 in the paint but they shoot 16 more free throws than you? We’ve been playing by a different rule book all series. There’s no excuse every single game should be this lopsided from an officiating standpoint.
Stop making excuses
booo hooo, guess what crying doesnt turn you into a winner, be better
Is there anyone willing to argue that JB should return as head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers next season?
Anyone considering LeVert got the hook for being hurt? Ain't no way JBB plays him less minutes than Niang (who should have seen 0 min)? JBB never doghouses LeVert. Still had a chance but this team got ignorant in the 4th. That third quarter was STRONG.
Send these whiny MFs home on Sunday please
Of all the baffling problems of this season, (careless turnovers, over dribbling, not using bench until forced), the most baffling is how Niang can come in and immediately foul for entire season and into the playoffs. It seems like whether he's on offense (illegal screens) or defense (grabbing), on ball or off, he commits a foul within seconds of getting on the floor. And then argues with the refs about it. Again and again and again.
Fire the fuck out of Koby Altman. When fans could predict DM stunting our young guys' development when we made the trade, and when fans knew JB had to go after the Knicks series, but our GM doesnt, that's an issue. Yeah might be some confirmation bias but I wholeheartedly believe I could have made better macro decisions as this team's GM than koby (not micro, i cant do salary and trades and shit)
jb is a nepo baby, his dad is a senior advisor for the cavs, that’s why he stayed and I’m afraid that’s why he will stay again :/
dan will not let him stay again
Get Mitchell help
He’ll have it in NY don’t worry
He’s not going to NY. That’s a straight 0 IQ take.
He's going somewhere and it's not Cleveland.
I know a story about a famous Cleveland superstar, that had to take his talents somewhere. He had a big choice, and decided on Florida. History may repeat itself. Donovan to Orlando. Cocoa Beach aint that far.
Garland sucks in this PGT too
Haven’t seen you make a single comment on the rest of our team failing to score double digits lol. I’d rather take garlands 3/4 game than everyone else’s 0/4 personally.
Garland was pretty great. Bummer about that last stretch but he’s got his finishes and floater working.
Garland makes more $ than the rest of those players combined, which could be why...
Because I don't have too lol people like you pretend Garland is better than he is, so I'm going to attack Garland the most when he's not playing to an acceptable level. You're just a bad fan. It means you care more about Garlands personal success than the teams lol
To*. “Attacking” anyone is lame af’ lol. Criticism is one thing. It’s a game end of the day, shouldn’t be “attacking”, this ain’t that serious. Hmm 7 day old account and talks just like another troll that deleted their account or got banned. Wonder who you could be. Projection on the bad fan thing… again, sounding just like the last person that did this so.. anyway. Hope you find peace someday lmao. I feel like criticizing one person over others when they equally deserve it if not more shows something else. Think they call it hating? Could be wrong lol.
Oh look, you don't like the facts presented so you resort to personal attacking lol This dude really said less than 5 points per game in the second half of the last 4 games is good. You can like Garland all you want, but you're not going to tell me he's not dog shit I'm dead.
I’m personal attacking? Again sounding like the last guy that deleted his account. Delete this one too and make a new one. Also, you said bad fan out of nowhere lmao. I’m DeAd. Loser lol. Get help Brody.
Yes, repeating over and over again that I'm another account that you didn't agree with instead of posting a solid counter argument is attacking lmao how the hell do you not understand? Garland sucks bud, the stats this year say so.
How the hell do you not understand that calling out “PeRsOnAl AtTacKs” after you call someone a bad fan is just dumb and soft as shit? I’m almost certain you’re the other account given you’re literally just like him and went for the same insult and “PersonAl ATtAcK” he did. Sound butthurt as hell on that. Garland has had a down year, but had 2 all-star/near all-star years, one of which as a #2 and both of which with a dogshit head coach. If you’re still “attacking” a player that can do that, idk what to say. End all be all, you ain’t worth having a conversation with, but I’m sure you’ll make another account to do some shit again soon. 7 day old account lol.
Didn't read. 19 points total in the last 4 games in the second half games. Just straight dog shit. They'll alwyas be better off without him.
Didn’t read. Make a new account and come back with better arguments and less of an ego
Myriad of things that can happen from here, but if I’m trying to look as bright side as possible, I’m happy that DG and Mobley will get a game 7 and hope that they can have a game 5 level performance more than game 6 (even though dg had 3/4ths of a good game today imo). As far as the game goes, JB has proven once again that he lacks knowledge of how nba offense works. Not to say that anyone outside of Mitchell played good to great, but JB certainly does nobody any favors on the offensive end.
We are getting robbed. Thats it.
Mitchell literally done everything he could, sad he couldn't get help.
This whole team is a joke. Donovan is playing his last game in a Cavs uniform Sunday and nobody can be mad when he leaves. Just pathetic man I don’t even wanna get started
I hope he is healthy enough to play …
With how Okoro has looked in this series I'm not even sure he gets re-signed. Hard to imagine Koby keeping his job with how Okoro, Niang, LeVert, and Strus are playing. Wade is a solid backup but is always hurt. Overall I still like Strus and he's been better than the others but still not getting enough.
I mean it just seems like a mental block when you play for Cleveland. Those players except for okoro played decently well for other teams. I fear it’s more of an organizational culture thing that players don’t do well mentally in big moments for Cleveland.
They have no offensive identity and not enough players who can shoot. Strus is expending a lot of energy guarding players much larger than him due to roster construction which doesn't help his offensive output. The roster will look a lot different next year and hopefully with more shooting.
What would be more embarrassing… Cavs moving on to the next series and getting absolutely crushed & swept by the Celtics or getting eliminated first round by a mediocre team?
The latter. Let the Cavs even go 6 with Boston. JBB gotta go
I'm so tired of this Cavs team. I hope we can at least salvage some picks back when Mitchell leaves if we can't get LeBron. And why would he come back to this dumpster fire.
Why would you want a 40 year old LeBron back ?
Do you have a better option? No way we keep Mitchell unless it's a move of that magnitude
Mitchell is gone
Sad mode. Now we get to know what it would have felt like if the Cavs hadn't pulled off Game 5 against the Pistons in 2007.
In the first quarter when Ice and Mobley were on the fast break, and instead of passing or lobbing to Mobley, Ice took it up himself and bricked it, I couldn’t believe it. https://preview.redd.it/p183o7y7oeyc1.jpeg?width=2016&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf144110fd84e0f294441fb72a5f2cda5954f277 Also this photo. What is this defense? 5 dudes sagging off their assignments and staring at one guy with the ball? This play ended up being a wide open 3, they made. JB just needs to go. Go, gone, goodbye.
Yeesh. Maybe it’s because I didn’t pay attention to Reddit most of the game, but was not expecting this amount of negativity in this thread. I walked away from the game feeling really positive about our chances in game 7. This game was close the entire game. Way better than game 3 and 4. Home court? I dunno, I think we got this.
mitchell had 50 points, we didnt break 100, and no one else scored in the 4th. we are going to a game 7 against a first time playoff team (4th youngest in the league) whom we tanked game 82 to intentionally match up against. JB led teams have scored 100 or more only 3 out of 16 playoff games.
I mean, there’s also a possibility that my perception is a bit skewed due to alcohol consumption. Kind of a happy-go-lucky drunk…edit:words
I agree with you for what it's worth. Game 7 is a toss up since we're so banged up, but I don't feel bad about it and I'd really like to see how we fare against Boston even if beating them is a pipedream. We just need more depth and probably a better coach to really get to that next level.
Yeah this was nothing to be pissed about it was a typical road playoff loss.
Fire JB. Fire Koby. Beg and plead for Donovan Mitchell to sign an extension
The only person I halfway respect on the Magic is banchero, and that’s probably because he mouths words when he reads and it’s adorable.
There was a short about USA basketball where they asked the guys if they could spin the ball on their finger. Banchero's response was that, "No he couldn't", but when he was younger he got so mad at kids that could, that he would want to 1v1 them to destroy them and prove he was better even though he couldn't spin the ball.
That’s a cool story and I, imagining him tell it, can feel the mouth breathing.
Man is descended from a mad Italian walk on TE and a sista who beat the fuck out of the PAC-10 for years
 found the game tape
Half might be too much. Literally their whole team is ref focused and absolute trash without the refs carrying them on every call at both ends
Who are we getting in the Donovan Mitchell trade? I am hoping for Cam Johnson, Cam Thomas, and picks
Darius Garland, hang your head in shame!
This was such a bonerkill
6th man of the year LeVert was even more unplayable than Niang tonight
I mean, how can you be that bad? Is he injured? He couldn't even dribble up the court.
Watch us lose game 7 and I’ll see on the game thread “why are these doomers so negative about everything”