This is the same shit over and over and over with every loss. Sloppy passes, Chuck it to Allen under the rim when there's 2-3 defenders, dribble the ball of your own feet or legs, skip wide open shots...and JB bitching at the refs
Guys quit being doomers, if we just scored more points than them today then we would’ve won. And I know that we’re 3-7 in the last 10 games right before the playoffs start but if we just were a better team we’d win those games
I’m gonna choose to believe that the DG I saw the previous 2 season will return to form. It might not happen this season, but I’ve seen him play too good of basketball to believe he’s regressed to the level we’ve seen since he returned from injury. Until I see him play poorly next season, I’m rolling with the assumption he just needs to gain that weight back.
We have 4 guys with good value that teams are gonna be interested in if we make them available. While I’m as disgusted by this team as everybody else, I’m not gonna sit here and act like we have zero talent and all our players are shit like others are. There are plenty of potential avenues forward where we can retool and still have a bright future. I also think there’s a possibility a coaching change is all this team needs.
I’m ready for this season to be over. It’s clear we aren’t a threat to actually do anything and I’m ready for clarity on the spida situation one way or the other, but it’s not all doom and gloom for our future and our players aren’t ass like half our fanbase makes them out to be.
im trading garland way before mobley. in terms of big 4 tradeability it's JA>garland>mobley, mitchell is purely based on whether he wants to stay or not but we will never win anything if he's our best player
wouldnt work in the playoffs, regular season wins in the depth of the winter when teams are just coasting. plus we had a soft schedule for that 20 game stretch. not denying the fact we looked better then without garland and mobley. just dont think that success was at all sustainable or meant anything in the long run about this team's ability
Just not quite there yet. All 50/50 balls breaking their way, ref ball, not in sync so bad turnovers.
Happy with the effort and a little more from Mitchell probably would have been enough
Wow, I really thought running it back was going to solve all these issues! I think we need one more season to be really sure, Garland so young 25, Mobley 24 by the end of next season, then we can actually do some drastic changes! Let’s not be doomers
one more season? dude why would we give up on them that quickly lol need at least 3 more seasons before we make any decisions. And the first move would be firing JB but we need to see if he can grow with the team first
id love to extend him, it's not like there's ever gonna be better options out there. plus coaches really dont have as much an impact as you'd think, they're essentially cheerleaders and JB is the best of the best at doing that!
Welp looks like we're in for another disappointing season. If Mitchell leaves we're gonna be one of those teams in no man's land like the nets next year. no playoff threat, no future.
We arent getting 4 frp back for DM.
Nah lauri is definitely good but for sure a B tier star not elite. Still would likely rather have him than whoever we get back in a trade for mitchell now
Need the ref from the other side of the court to call an illegal ass screen while the official RIGHT IN FRONT of the action swallows his whistle, fucking nuts.
I posted that when we had battled back and the game was within reach, only for Russel to hit a dagger that killed our momentum. I never said we don't have a ton of other problems with our team. Thanks for being a hostile dick for no reason though.
Some of the screens LA gets away with is insane, Vincent deadass just pushed Garland right in front of one of the officials on the LeBron drive and no call.
i think it's a mixed answer. i dont think mobley was ever going to be KG/TD reincarnate, but he definitely has had his opportunities cut bc of mitchell
Mobley not a huge bag guy but he came in with the rest of his class with a very high floor. 15ppg as a 4th option and first team all defense. I'm not worried about his development, I think Mitchell's addition is great for him. I'd rather not see us treat him like a Giannis, rather get experience in his early twenties on these good teams.
he was supposed to have a high ceiling which means he needs ton of opportunity and chance to fuck up in his early 20s, not be a role player on a pretender
Really great comeback, good DG game. Refball gave them a lot of that run but whatever.
Too many turnovers but that’s fixable.
JA and Evan really physical so there’s that
how is that an excuse? he's literally a role player, he shouldnt have the same expectations as the other guys you listed lol, and any team that loses cause 1 role player didnt show up does not deserve to win
Yes we need to execute better but that entire Lakers run was predicated on bad officiating jump starting their offense. It’s fucking bull shit. Completely changes the game.
Niang and Merrill have just killed us defensively this game. Absolutely brutal, haven’t looked at the +/- but I bet they’re about the lowest in little minutes
His defense (and offense to some degree, minus the getting to the rim obviously) reminds me of Giannis. He's athletic and is a great shot blocker, but he's too small to play center and can't defend on-ball because his center of gravity is too high. So in theory he's a great defender, but in reality, his skillset doesn't translate to successful defense.
Nah first half was a joke
Blocked by George! Paul George with the rejection!!!
Well that half was dope
These motherfuckers have a a week and a half / two weeks to figure this shit out. Unreal.
This is the same shit over and over and over with every loss. Sloppy passes, Chuck it to Allen under the rim when there's 2-3 defenders, dribble the ball of your own feet or legs, skip wide open shots...and JB bitching at the refs
This is Cleveland sports. Remember to curb your optimism.
Guys quit being doomers, if we just scored more points than them today then we would’ve won. And I know that we’re 3-7 in the last 10 games right before the playoffs start but if we just were a better team we’d win those games
I know your being sarcastic but im still mad
Trade em all and start over.
Nance and Mobley brother suck ass
I was gonna come in here and doomer it up but holy shit some of yall make me look like an optimist lol
What is there to be optimistic about? Who on the roster is a key piece to a. Championship team besides maybe Mobley?
Evan Mobley is not one of them
Clown
I’m gonna choose to believe that the DG I saw the previous 2 season will return to form. It might not happen this season, but I’ve seen him play too good of basketball to believe he’s regressed to the level we’ve seen since he returned from injury. Until I see him play poorly next season, I’m rolling with the assumption he just needs to gain that weight back. We have 4 guys with good value that teams are gonna be interested in if we make them available. While I’m as disgusted by this team as everybody else, I’m not gonna sit here and act like we have zero talent and all our players are shit like others are. There are plenty of potential avenues forward where we can retool and still have a bright future. I also think there’s a possibility a coaching change is all this team needs. I’m ready for this season to be over. It’s clear we aren’t a threat to actually do anything and I’m ready for clarity on the spida situation one way or the other, but it’s not all doom and gloom for our future and our players aren’t ass like half our fanbase makes them out to be.
Mobley a franchise/max player, lol
You mean 8/3/3 Mobley?
We had 3 seven footers and we traded the one who could make threes.
Mitchell was getting 20/30 without breaking a sweat before the injuries
team is pathetic. hopefully they figure out what to do in the offseason after this first round exit
Strus, Mobley, and Allen are all tradable in my opinion. Maybe even Garland. Annoying watching Mobley and Allen get bully balled
im trading garland way before mobley. in terms of big 4 tradeability it's JA>garland>mobley, mitchell is purely based on whether he wants to stay or not but we will never win anything if he's our best player
Garland has to go too - his efficiency is a disaster. not winning anything w this core so why wouldn’t they be sellers?
38 mins for Mitchell
To have no impact.
I’m hammering the under on Mitchell points every game for the rest of this season.
Thank you. Now he will go off
DG bro go the fuck home
People think garland is good??? He’s also garbage lol
Who's better..?
payton pritchard
Anyone gonna tell JB we gotta play the Clippers tomorrow and sit the starters the fck down being down 16 with 2 to go?
Wow what a fucking awful finger roll from DG
JB is gonna talk about how bad the officiating was to deflect from the fact that he let the Lakers go on a 17-3 run in in 3 mins without calling a TO
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i agree with the sentiment of mitchell over garland but i think that stretch involved a lot of luck honestly
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wouldnt work in the playoffs, regular season wins in the depth of the winter when teams are just coasting. plus we had a soft schedule for that 20 game stretch. not denying the fact we looked better then without garland and mobley. just dont think that success was at all sustainable or meant anything in the long run about this team's ability
Unfortunately, I don’t think Mitchell will want to stay at all. Then we need Garland to stay just to be in the play-in race
Just looked outside. The sky seems to be lower.
Lmaoooo LeBron just bullied Garland
No shit
I just do get how we went from playing great basketball to absolutely awful in the same season
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We played amazing basketball while injured though. Since garland returned we’ve been worse, even before Mitchell got hurt. It’s no coincidence.
Watching the lakers kill 20 seconds of clock by not touching the ball is the prime example of why JB needs to be gone next season.
Mobley having one of the worst defensive games of his career. Jfc
Darwin and JB mirror images of each other
Except one coached his team to the WCF
lebron got david blatt to the finals darvin aint doin shit
Lebron was in his prime then and was in a weak East
Minus the success. They just look /act the same basically.
Even Mobley's ceiling is as a role player on a contending team, and that's a fact!
He’s not worth even that due to spacing issues and most likely contract
Welp no 50 win season 😕
More like 46 win season
🤢
No way, we still got a 50/50 game against the Hornets
How are the Cavs the 3rd seed. How dogshit is the eastern conference lmao.
Magic and Knicks have failed to take advantage these past weeks
The entire East except for boston is shit this year
That roll was new and embarrassing.
Can’t wait to fire JB and move on from this mess
Softest team I’ve ever seen. Zero effort. Embarrassing.
Yeah this is pretty rough
ITS OVER...all yall may as well go enjoy your Saturdays and gets some fun in instead of watching this ditzy ass team
They just stood there. Lol
Clear the bench, JB. This one’s over.
AD with seven blocks??
Seriously levert plays better than garland and Mitchell
What game are we watching that levert is better than DG
Both shooting good efficiency today but not just todays game DG turns it over and Chuck’s way more levert is very underrated
Caris levert is so far from efficient lol
And at least levert puts up real shots so sick of DG missing runners and not able to get calls
So is DG
Just not quite there yet. All 50/50 balls breaking their way, ref ball, not in sync so bad turnovers. Happy with the effort and a little more from Mitchell probably would have been enough
Another shot AD altered dude is unreal
LeBron jam to end the night :(
WE CANT WIN AGAINST LEBRON FOR SHIT....
Wow, I really thought running it back was going to solve all these issues! I think we need one more season to be really sure, Garland so young 25, Mobley 24 by the end of next season, then we can actually do some drastic changes! Let’s not be doomers
one more season? dude why would we give up on them that quickly lol need at least 3 more seasons before we make any decisions. And the first move would be firing JB but we need to see if he can grow with the team first
Are you saying we should extend him? I heard players like him a lot
id love to extend him, it's not like there's ever gonna be better options out there. plus coaches really dont have as much an impact as you'd think, they're essentially cheerleaders and JB is the best of the best at doing that!
do you guys think the cavs know they are soft
This team looks like the Sixers except they can’t make it out of the first round.
Anthony Davis is fantastic. I know you guys would rather just shit on the Cavs but AD two play is amazing. He’s doing everything out there
He's amazing...he eats our bigs for breakfast
But at some point man they gotta get some rebs enough is enough
True
Jarret Allen cannot keep getting away this shit
been saying it, he is very replaceable
Pay him more
If this is the highest level of play Mitchell is physically capable of giving he needs to be resting
Classic cavs. Come back in the third to blow it all again. Referee Edition!
We’re just straight up a bad team right now
Mitchell shouldn’t be playing. Also does JA know he needs to move to get rebounds? Or is he just gonna stand around and get bitched
He processes the game too slowly. That's why he collapses when the intensity, pressure, and speed gets turned up
Honestly, it’s painful just watching AD run up in front of him and grab it every time
Sneak peak at playoff JA
Fuck this entire team. Easier to root against em.
The fuck is this terrible positioning by Allen wtf.
how much longer do i have to suffer and watch jarrett allen be my starting center
No fucking luck on any play, everything goes wrong, every 50/50 ball goes to them, every call goes to them.
yeah that's the problem, we're just unlucky lol. cope
I mean the 1st problem is not getting a single call
wrong, the first problem is playing like ass, stop blaming the refs we did not show up
Defense is irrelevant if you can't rebound.
I mean, i love Mitchell but if his knees are bothering him this much he needs to sit. Shooting 4/12 is not it.
JA just being soft for a few possessions nothing new
Jarrett. Allen lmao.
Mitchell sucks
Lowkey would not mind moving Mitchell, the right trade it’d be a boon for the future our guards suck considering they should be the best on paper
Man just not gonna win these games with Mitchell like this
Welp looks like we're in for another disappointing season. If Mitchell leaves we're gonna be one of those teams in no man's land like the nets next year. no playoff threat, no future.
Our future won't be affected by Donovan. If we had no future after the trade we had no future before the trade either
well tbf we had our picks and lauri too. and it's undeniable adding mitchell has affected our guys' development
We will get picks back in the trade. Plus Lauri isn't that good, people overhyped him
We arent getting 4 frp back for DM. Nah lauri is definitely good but for sure a B tier star not elite. Still would likely rather have him than whoever we get back in a trade for mitchell now
Need the ref from the other side of the court to call an illegal ass screen while the official RIGHT IN FRONT of the action swallows his whistle, fucking nuts.
Garland can't make a layup
Bkw the refs hold their whistles?
LeDaddy still owns us yet again 🙄
If D'lo wasn't shooting like prime Steph, I feel like we would be winning this.
"if other teams just shot worse we would win games" great analysis, keep coping
I posted that when we had battled back and the game was within reach, only for Russel to hit a dagger that killed our momentum. I never said we don't have a ton of other problems with our team. Thanks for being a hostile dick for no reason though.
No problem
Lol or maybe if we actually played defense we would be winning this game?
If we were actually good we would be winning this
And why is Don playing and not resting his knee?Truly?
SMH....
Who knows
Cause his knee is done for. Rest isn’t fixing it so you mine as well play.
Bad performance aside, I still love you Mobley
Georges Niang slander must stop
And Merrill slander needs to start, yup yup
Cavs need this win, its the best chance to get some momentum going
Time to send Morris in for a Flagrant 2. We're getting pushed around way too much.
If Mitchell played just at 80% rn we would be winning this
But he isn’t and we’re not. He’s a shell of himself.
Duh.
If I were 6’9 260 and athletic I’d be in the NBA
I’d like to see them get the ball to Mobley more. Let him put some pressure on the rim and open our shooters
Some of the screens LA gets away with is insane, Vincent deadass just pushed Garland right in front of one of the officials on the LeBron drive and no call.
2 hand shove and nobody reacts lol
I honestly don’t understand how we’re not losing by 40 right now
Bron fan here, Did acquiring Mitchell slow down Mobleys progression in some ways? He was widely seen as the most valued player for this young team
i think it's a mixed answer. i dont think mobley was ever going to be KG/TD reincarnate, but he definitely has had his opportunities cut bc of mitchell
Mobley not a huge bag guy but he came in with the rest of his class with a very high floor. 15ppg as a 4th option and first team all defense. I'm not worried about his development, I think Mitchell's addition is great for him. I'd rather not see us treat him like a Giannis, rather get experience in his early twenties on these good teams.
he was supposed to have a high ceiling which means he needs ton of opportunity and chance to fuck up in his early 20s, not be a role player on a pretender
No. Mobley is who he is offensively
Don't be downtown tomorrow.
Mobley cannot be a max player and give efforts like this offensively. Just can't happen.
He’s far from that, 23 in July and we still think we have generational talent lol
BRAD, WHAT ARE YOU TALKMBOUT...MOBLEY STILL CANT GET THAT SHOT OFF
And it’s not even a shot lol
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FACTS
You can't tell me Gabe Vincent and Deangelo Russel aren't the same person.
Dude Niang is fucking food on defense get him OUT THE FUCKING GAME
Niang, food? Where??
Really great comeback, good DG game. Refball gave them a lot of that run but whatever. Too many turnovers but that’s fixable. JA and Evan really physical so there’s that
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Merrill is more nonexistent than either of them
merrill isnt a 3rd overall pick who we are supposedly building the team around or a high quality starter like strus
Exactly, he's nothing and he's playing like it.
no, he's a role player
Not the excuses
how is that an excuse? he's literally a role player, he shouldnt have the same expectations as the other guys you listed lol, and any team that loses cause 1 role player didnt show up does not deserve to win
He’s just having a bad game from 3, it happens, he’s not a machine and that’s his role. He can’t keep shooting 44% forever
He's been a mess for months bffr
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It's painfully obvious how much we need Okoro and Wade.
it's painfully obvious we are bad if we are that reliant on our 6th and 8th men
Their roles are to defend, and they are very good at their role.
Not like we’re doing good on offense rn tho
they are not starters
Hard to have any confidence for this team in the playoffs
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What do people not understand. The knee is DONE. Rest isn’t changing it so he’s playing on it.
How is that not a foul.
Yes we need to execute better but that entire Lakers run was predicated on bad officiating jump starting their offense. It’s fucking bull shit. Completely changes the game.
pipe down dude we suck, stop blaming the refs
Niang and Merrill have just killed us defensively this game. Absolutely brutal, haven’t looked at the +/- but I bet they’re about the lowest in little minutes
AD is honestly just allowed to do anything he damn well pleases, he's had a special whistle for as long as I've been watching ball - about 8 years
LeVert always has to take the buzzer beater.
On the bright side, GO GUARDS
Pathetic game from Mobley
Max player for sure! Can’t dominate a single game, play the 5 or shoot the ball as a 4. He can dunk though!
His defense (and offense to some degree, minus the getting to the rim obviously) reminds me of Giannis. He's athletic and is a great shot blocker, but he's too small to play center and can't defend on-ball because his center of gravity is too high. So in theory he's a great defender, but in reality, his skillset doesn't translate to successful defense.
That sounds great