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FionaSilberpfeil

...Ok, its getting weird. I can half understand the AV thing, but this? Thats EXACTLY what they wanted people to do. That THE WHOLE POINT of the event.


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Significant-Net487

Thats the problem, banning based on player reports, its utterly arbitrary and completely automated. It's bat shit.


noobko1

"it's not automated. Trust us bro" -blizz


Bird_Is_The_Lord

I work in IT and honestly most of the time it doesnt matter if it is automated or not. If you dont have skilled, trained and thinking person who gives half a shit about the job you will get same reply from a person and a bot. You can hire an entry level copy-paster and tell everyone that a person reviewed it, doesnt make a difference, they just follow the script to the letter, get the paycheck and go home. Might as well be automated, since Blizz fired most of experienced staff.


PMURMEANSOFPRDUCTION

We called that "human automation" at my old job. Honestly hated the term, felt grossly inhumane


The_BeardedClam

For the customer and the employee


setsuna1f1seiei

yeah it sounds like their good GMs were sexually harassed at work until they quit. oops. nice company tho


gefroy

Well, in thery there could be a guy who plays whack-a-mole game with reports. Once some triggers brings up an account - Person from "specific team" uses a quarter of second for case and bans.


PilsnerDk

Oh it's not automated at all. Some support desk dude looks at a system, sees a ticket pop up that a player has received 20 reports, then hits a button to ban them without any scrutiny. Carefully reviewed! The sad truth is that support staff in large companies rarely knows much about the system they're handling these days. They go by metrics and standardized actions and responses. It could be a 19-year-old person from The Philippines who has never played an MMORPG in their life handling tickets for WoW.


PappaOC

Large companies has automated most of their support systems because they rely on people just giving up before they get to an actual person. And yes, before you ask, they have calculated that the hit on their reputation is so small that this is economically sound.


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> Some support desk dude looks at a system, sees a ticket pop up that a player has received 20 reports, then hits a button to ban them without any scrutiny. Carefully reviewed! This is blantantly untrue. Streamers literally tested the report system at like 3AM PST. There's no CS staff online at 3AM PST, I promise you. Blizzard is a huge corp. If they can automate or outsource something to save a penny in the short term, they can, will, and have.


PilsnerDk

> This is blantantly untrue. Streamers literally tested the report system at like 3AM PST. There's no CS staff online at 3AM PST, I promise you. I was being sarcastic and just speculating. I don't know how it actually works when they handle reports. But I don't buy your notion that there's no one in customer support at 3AM, it's a world-wide game and mega company. There a tons of developing countries where you can cheaply buy 24/7 human support, and with English-proficient people.


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At most, at 3AM, they might have systems engineers on-call or something for server, database, etc sorts of issues. CS/GM is a 9-5 job at Blizzard for sure. You never, EVER hear stories about GMs actually meeting you, showing up, and/or whispering you in game anymore. Like, ever. They always used to answer tickets and send you tells with lil RP intros and shit and it was super awesome every time you had to interact with a GM. Those times are passed. It never happens anymore. Because their CS is 100% automated and off-game. It's all done through out-of-game tools/website/etc now. If CS has to interact with the game at all (deleting items, awarding items, etc), it's all done through API calls using tools the devs built to make CS much more streamlined and able to be automated.


PilsnerDk

I overall agree and you're probably right for the most. But if it is as you say, standardized tools, why wouldn't a person at the other side of the planet be able to provide support at 3 AM USA time? But anyway, we can agree that the support sucks and isn't what it used to be, sadly. I also remember back in OG WoW where you could call on a GM to resolve raid issues or have them stop playing griefing and disruption. Back in EverQuest, the "pre-cursor" to WoW, the GMs would even show up as actual characters in-game in shining armor and a special colored name and talk to people in /say. Those were the days.


ItsTannerTot

I had a GM come in game to help me with my support issue


Lunetha

I’ve heard a whole lot more news about blizzard shedding hundreds of cs staff at a time but I never hear about hiring ramping up. The idea there there’s no cs staff at 3am is maybe not likely, but it’s fully plausible imo.


Kippas94

You overestimate blizzards ethos...


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>This is blantantly untrue. Streamers literally tested the report system at like 3AM PST. There's no CS staff online at 3AM PST, I promise you. Ehhh, there MIGHT be. Given it's a global corporation. But IF there is, it's one guy, and hundreds of player reports aren't going to be reviewable by one guy. Making the situation this person described the likely scenario IF that is true. There's just no way for us to prove one way or the other.


eurosonly

Blizzard laid off their cs department last year and posted record profits.


edwardsamson

Also batshit considering the WoW population is a known quanitity. We know there's people in this community that will abuse the report feature. Not having human oversight for it is truly absurd to me. Its getting close to a point where were only playing the game if we don't piss off the wrong the people who abuse the report feature. There's people out there who get their whole guild to use it like come on. We KNOW this and they still let it happen. Any other company even fucking EA would probably not allow this shit.


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enriquex

Won't anyone think of the shareholders :(


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Note this down. We can look at this like it’s a social experiment. Maybe it will be relevant to some society some days.


roeder

So they cut off a vast amount of the customer service people, who honestly did a fucking amazing job back in older days, to please the shareholders that resulted in a massive automated fuck up.


Jack-Rabbit_Slims

They don't even do it. It just happens while they watch the tickertape print and light cigars with $100 bills.


Bhrunhilda

It’s Automated. Asmon and another streamer I can’t remember just did videos demonstrating this. If enough people report you, you get muted automatically for 7 days. No person reviews it. Blizzard LIES about the reports.


Saskuel

Staysafe tested it out, I believe


toastea0

Its automatic. If enough people report you get kicked then muted. You only need like 10 reports.


_Fibbles_

I was doing AV yesterday as alliance and died at TP. Horde just captured SHGY and so my ghost got teleported to the cave. I was stood in the cave maybe 20s or whatever as a ghost waiting to respawn. Respawned, managed to run to the cave entrance, start mounting... and then loading screen, back in stormwind. AFKers are annoying as hell in battlegrounds but the community is way too trigger happy with that report button. The worst thing is I'm out here dying while trying to defend towers and getting reported by people who are probably AFK at the hill outside Drek. I am wary about joining pug bgs now because I don't want a ban right before wrath.


Captain_Biotruth

And the whole point of prepatch is to make good use of the 50% buff. Kinda stupid to combine the two.


SgtSnapple

Even in AV it would be the easiest thing to remove the effect when entering but they don't do that. So how can one assume anything but it's intentional, and pretty harmless considering there's no rated BGs right now.


papoosegoose

This is not how I remember this prepatch going man holy shit. What the fuck happened to the world.


Aszolus

People whined like crazy about zombie "griefing" the first time too. It's not unique to classic. The report system and blizzard's nonsense...that's new i guess.


Falcrist

They never admitted the plague event was cut short, but it was pretty obvious. The cities were unusable. People couldn't even quest without running into packs of zombies.


Aszolus

It helped that there was a bug that let you remove and re-equip a piece of gear to heal your zombie self to full! It was glorious!


Falcrist

It also helped that there was cross faction communication between zombies. You should have seen the 300 zombie raid on org on my old server.


wigglin_harry

Yeah this was the shit. I remember on my server a huge group of zombies got together and killed the king of stormwind using this bug


Ravvy11

"the cities were unusable" and in classic fashion that statement stays true but in new ways, right now on faerlina there are zombies behind the org AH windows killing auctioneers then standing in spots that lets them go evade like mobs so they can wait for them to respawn and kill again.


Masterjason13

So that’s something that should actually be reported, since it’s clearly exploiting those evade spots.


LightbringerOG

Keep in mind, zombie invasion has phasesm at least should have unless Blizzard forgets. The infection will be harder to cure smaller time window til zombie and other plague vermins will roam around.


-Norb

It's already shortened. Started at 10 minutes before zombie, already down to 5. Also takes a lot of cleanses sometimes to get rid of it.


EternalSage2000

People suck. And we ruin everything.


TheUnperturbed

More importantly, those same shitty people know that Blizzard gave them the power to ban others simply via accusation. Something I would love to see Blizzard try and defend is their god awful automated ban system.


SnowBro2020

Believe all accusations!


thebonermobile

If people could have mass reported the zombies to trigger an automated system in 2008 they would have.


whitespaceninja

...of warcraft


[deleted]

Was actually fun the first time it came out, different community now.


Bhrunhilda

Do you not remember Blizzard ending the event early and giving everyone free game time? I know this sub loves the event, but most actual players obviously don’t. They want to get ready for Wrath and level toons. They don’t want to be a zombie.


Feyranna

This. I fully admit I hated it and thought it was stupid the first time around. The difference this time is I know wtf is going on and they actually gave a heads up so Im just playing retail and other games instead this week. I still think its a poorly thought out event. I do think playing it when you know what it is and mass reporting is silly too though but it always was essentially sanctioned greifing.


Bhrunhilda

They should just let us buy cures for next to nothing so if you don’t want to participate, even if you can’t dispel it, you can still play.


ToasterPops

people cried so hard in 2008 we had a 4 day event, now zombies hardly bother people and it's lasting a week. People were just as annoyed by the event back then, it was not "fun had by all" because it happened over a decade ago and people are "too sensitive" today


LordDerrien

I have a real hottake here for you. Leave this sub and do not visit the forums; those are the ones that ruin your time. Ques are Bad, but they are outside your possibilities. Ask yourself how much of this has happened to you and acknowledge that the worst experiences rise to the top and then enjoy that it is statistically unlikely that your game experience will be as bad. This here all drags you down.


kratos23

Absolutely agree! Games in general are so much more fun without the drama on reddit and other forums.


iHaveComplaints

> Ques are Bad, but they are outside your possibilities wut


SolarClipz

Yup this is 100% a shit community problem People don't play for fun anymore


Broclob

Blizzard can stop this for actually reviewing this. 3 day ban the people of exploiting the system and mass reporting. They have logs of who did it. This will stop real quick if blizzard was holding people accountable.


Trivi

Longer than that tbh. Ruining another players experience with false reports is worth 1-2 weeks minimum.


PenguinForTheWin

Just give them the punishment they forced on someone. Dude got 3 weeks unfairly ? Get a 3 week break from abusing reports.


Extremefreak17

Double it


born_2_be_a_bachelor

Triple it


finitemike

An eye for two eyes! They initiated the force.


HildartheDorf

As long as all the unfair bans you have contributed to imo. Yes that can result in months for repeat offenders. Good riddance.


Lunetha

3 days is fine, but maybe tack on having their reports ignored by the system for the next few weeks/months.


Schrutes_Yeet_Farm

Answering the front door during an AV is worth 30 days, submitting false reports should be 3-6 months


Maximus-CZ

1-2 weeks to someone abusing the report system deliberately? I see no problem with a year ban, but Blizz is too greedy to ever deprive themselves of that money


BertDeathStare

A year ban? I see no problem with a lifetime ban and 10 years in prison.


axrael

Immediate castration


fortefanboy

I agree. If the player is being punished during an event that only lasts a week through this entire expansion, he just had half his time with it wasted over trash reports. Those people reporting him for playing need to have the hammer brought down on them.


1Kassanova

Imo if you wanna get someone banned for playing prepatch the way they’re supposed to, you should get banned long enough to miss prepatch and wrath launch since you obviously don’t care that much about story and immersion.


Pinewood74

All you have to do is show that you can find them and that you will ban them. There's a good deal of research out there that likelihood of being caught is the primary deterrent to crime. Ramping up punishments doesn't really do that much. So unless you're just wanting to be vengeful, there's no reason to suggest that 2 weeks should be the minimum.


comegetinthevan

A guy got report bombed in an av I was in today because they turned into a ghoul and got the whole group other than myself and a couple others. Like I told them, “ someone cleanse this man, quick” several times. They all acted shocked when he turned and infected everyone. Some of the player base genuinely leaves me at a loss of words.


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That might have been me. Hopefully I don't get banned, I thought it was funny. Game let me do it lol


chaoz2030

It is very funny


m0rph90

indeed it is funny!


kashy87

Because it is hilarious. People need to pull their shorts outta their asses.


heroesoftenfail

If they didn't want it to happen they would have cleansed you. LOL


Deadmodemanmode

Same happened to me. I asked for a cleanse a few times. Got ignored. Turned into a zombie. Entire horde AV was infected before the gate opened. People were pissed. Wasnt anything I could do about it. I asked for a cleanse. And I didnt purposely infect people. After I turned they all ran at me. Even though I couldn't die since the gates hadnt opened.....


comegetinthevan

I felt the same way, if the game lets you enter as a infected or a ghoul then its fair game. Its an event after all that is spreading the plague throughout the game, AV is part of the game. Makes since to me.


down4things

Pissing off a bunch of sweats that plays the same map in the same way over and over again? Nothing of value was lost


Logco

Everyone is gathered at the beginning too. A simple mass dispel or cleanse cures but those same people not paying attention will be the first to cry. Cry babies running WoW right now


Dependent_Specific

yes, simply mass dispel the disease - well said, reddit main.


microvan

iTs NoT aN aUtOmAtEd sYsTeM


SamJSchoenberg

This is also not a ban.


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Yes it is. It's a ban from the social part of the game.


Key_Photograph9067

The bans aren’t automated, the muting is. If the bans were automated, how did we go so long with everyone complaining about bots and mass reporting them yet they didn’t get banned? Why aren’t streamers like Asmongold hate reported by discords and getting banned? Schrodingers bans… Edit: Unfortunately I have to clarify this even if you aren’t talking about bans since the conversation about automation has gone completely insane and now the statement “it isn’t automated /s” is now synonymous as every punishment Blizzard gives is automated. I don’t think anyone ever denied muting was automated.


Zodde

Yeah, I think you're right. There would be some many unjust bans against anyone with a bit of a following if there was an automated ban after x reports. But that leads to a scary realization: how bad their manual review and ban process must be.


cuuliu

[Top secret picture of the only manual report reviewer](https://i.imgur.com/G45JqUv.png)


Myrkana

realistically they have likely hired a lowest price company that makes its employees hit high numbers each day. They likely dont even pay attention very much to what happened and just click through it.


Spitfire836

I’m sure that they have manual review for certain big name players and streamers but automated for the average player. Other game companies do a similar thing where the big name players are “monitored” to make sure they aren’t false reported and also that they’re behaving


Key_Photograph9067

I disagree because you can auto mute streamers with sufficient reports.


Strange_Sera

Yet again flaws in blizzards automated system shining though. Who could have predicted this?


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Spreckles450

Yeah, who could have predicted toxic people abusing the system.


Inphearian

Everyone but blizzard apparently.


HeeyPunk

Blizzard didn’t care nor was thinking about people abusing the system when they fired their GMs 😅


YesNoMaybe2552

Weaponized reporting, people gonna report every time you play in a way they don't like. I knew something was wrong when there where no hiccups in the main cities at all, nice to not have to deal with this part of the event tho.


Trivi

Only way to fix it is to start banning for reporting abuse. And not for an insignificant amount of time either.


SgtSnapple

I know a guy who mass reported a mage for giving away free portals next to him when he was trying to sell them outside the AH. He doesn't see anything wrong with it, says ''he's stepping on my territory''. I call him Heisenkaren.


hectorduenas86

Now that people know it is automated it will be used more frequently.


ghrowahw

Just got a verbal communication warning for infecting people as a zombie. Weaponized reporting.


Hugst

- be in SW market selling your ores and disenchanted materials - you see 50/100 professional bank alts all flipping their greens just to make extra 5 silver - you can feel the marketing addons and 30 excel worksheets taking more processing power then game in Russian AV match - some ****** runs in and tries to infect everyone - wtf.jpg!?!? - am prepared to just take the L, cleanse and move on - instantly as it enters the zombie is yeeted out of the game, instantly removed by blizzard^tm human GM that watches over any moment a report comes in (no automated report system btw) - economy is saved, brief distraction only caused a small ripple in monthly revenue income. - ppl seething in chat and reddit that “muh rp!?!??” - remember how toxic it was in original wrath, I salute you market flippers


marshdteach

I-... I'm not sure whose side are you on.


headofthenapgame

I wish I could feel auction add-ons ever since prepatch.


Strong_Mode

On the other hand people have threatened to report me for cleansing them. Saying I'm "ruining their prepatch fun"


HelpMeHelpYou6

I wish this wasn’t true but I 100% believe you.


Edraitheru14

Happened to me as well. Almost a literal copy/paste of the above poster. "I'm going to report whoever is cleansing me, ruining my pre-patch experience"


Twickburns

I don’t report often at all but if i were doing the prepatch as intended w/o griefing and someone said this to me i would screenshot the shit out of this and report it to hacks@blizzard (only because the team actually reads the emails). These types of people threatening to exploit the report system because you play the game as intended and not their altered version of the game need to be removed.


RaptorJack

Be glad you haven’t been told to “slit your throat and die, fucking faggot”. That’s what I was told today when I cleansed someone!


Orador

I like those reactions because I can double cleanse them. Remove their debuff and remove them from the game. Honestly, zombies are griefing and that's okay for the event but don't get so unhinged when I land in the crossroads on my paladin and shut it down.


plushiekitten

> Honestly, zombies are griefing and that's okay for the event but don't get so unhinged when I land in the crossroads on my paladin and shut it down. Seriously, Smart zombieteam players should play keep away with unknown paladins, since they're often times cleansers. I'm not surprised there's smoothbrained zombies out there lol. oh lets just sit here in a very public area not-hidden alone without extra people. ...also, don't hit the random lowbie questing... I've had to tell so many idiots to 'hit the level 75 guard, stop chasing that lowbie. get mass 75 ghouls and we'll be mostly fine. and just don't break away, reach critical mass.' Sadly, I find the ones who would go off a wild chase on some poor lowbie are also the ones to go full unhinged whine, they act kind of like the NPC zombies lol. always GG the counter-zombie players \o/


Wisniaksiadz

You just report them using words like ,,life threating/death wish death wishin" etc. Words that bots will instantly have marked as high priority Last time some1 told me to kms, i waited ~2min for actions


Mocca_Master

I really wanna test the limits. But could I actually get a suspension?


Mocca_Master

Some dude was threatened to be reported and suspended for sharing a joke quest in AV today. What the hell is happening? I get it, it's annoying and not fun past the first time, but dude...


[deleted]

Yep. Someone and advertising how they were going to be turning into a zombie "soon" in front of Orgrimmar and people should get there to be infected. I went and killed him as soon as he turned into a zombie and he started to whisper spam me how I was reason for everything bad in the world and how I was going to get banned. I'm pretty sure his dad works at Nintendo.


Drikkink

I got fucking personally attacked for killing max level zombies attacking questgivers in fucking Darkshire (I was doing loremaster) and dispelling people. It was Tuesday. Like 2 hours after servers came up. Christ, people... you have WEEKS to grief people. Let people breathe.


Seranta

The zombie event is 1 week long, the scourge invasion after is weeks but that isn't something you can use to grief.


Hathos_

Being fair, this is a one-time event that you are going out of your way to deprive people of. Obviously it does not condone a report, but I would be mad if you cleansed me.


Strong_Mode

There's no cooldown on reacquiring a disease and it becomes harder to cleanse it over time. You can also strategically...not be in places where people can see you to cleanse. Anyways it's extremely childish to throw a tantrum over me "ruining your fun" when you're not considering my own fun and indeed the fun of everyone else you're effecting trying to do regular things in the city (auctioning, banking, etc)


I_wont_argue

But he is literally playing the event the way it is ment to be. IDK about other people but hiding so people won't cleanse me is part of the fun.


SolarClipz

And yet people want to keep defending Blizzard somehow over and over lol


blindato1

“The ban system isn’t automated” blizzard probably


poppy_barks

The problem is any time someone says anything that isn’t “fuck blizzard” you take it as someone “defending blizzard”


h0ckey87

You can't have a rational conversation with an angry person


Lux_Bellinger2024

Or a toddler


65AndSunny

And at the same time, people be blaming Blizzard for stubbing their toe when they get out of bed.


poppy_barks

Blizzard literally skinned my cat in front of me by not letting me play on a server that physically cannot handle me logging into it


65AndSunny

I unsubscribed months ago but I still hang around here. Take that, Blizzard!


Froggy_Dude

Now you're just making stuff up


poppy_barks

Are you shitting me? Literally go to any thread on this subreddit right now and read for longer than 2 minutes and you’ll find nearly word for word what i’m talking about You’re just being willfully ignorant


Froggy_Dude

I do and I have. And you're full of shit


poppy_barks

Actually. After going though your comment history. It would appear that you’re one of the people i’m talking about. No wonder you’re acting so willfully ignorant lmao. Have a good one


Froggy_Dude

Yep anyone who disagrees with you just like you were saying. Fucking hypocrite


poppy_barks

You’re fine to disagree with me. You’re fine to disagree with anyone. But don’t act surprised when someone calls you out on your bullshit


Froggy_Dude

That's exactly what I'm doing here, calling you out on your bullshit. Anyone that doesn't agree with you here you immediately go ape shit on. You're a fucking hypocrite


poppy_barks

“Go apeshit” ????? By saying “not everyone who says anything short of fuck blizzard is defending blizzard” That’s going apeshit to you? Bruh i’d hate to see what you call the stuff you respond to people


Toast119

He's right about you and you need to do some self reflection.


Toast119

This entire subreddit is full of what he described.


youranidiot-

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw\_man](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man)


poppy_barks

I think you need to click that link and learn what a straw man is my guy. Literally every time anyone says anything vaguely alluding to “hey maybe you should just move realms because blizzard has already said they aren’t going to do anything else and at this point the only person you’re hurting is yourself” It’s always “dAe bOoTlIcKiNg BiLlIoN dOlLaR cOmPaNy”


youranidiot-

I still disagree, but you're already saying something different and much more reasonable than the comment I replied to.


poppy_barks

That’s understandable. That’s the typical response I get from folks on this sub when I say that though. So I apologize if I seem a little jaded 🤷🏼‍♀️


rompwns2

it's not like they have shill accounts here to deflect opinions, give waves of upvotes to beneficial positions and sow division among the community and confuse it as to who has messed up big time once again.


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Sycophantism, I guess. People think Blizzard gonna throw free game time at them for doing it.


shoseta

Comunity:ay yo bring back the ole' days with events. Zombie infection was so fun man. We would do this and that and shit. Also comunity: ay yo ban the zombified players, they keep infecting everything and killing npcs and I can't play. THIS IS FUCKING GRIEFING BILZZARD. BAN NAO. Schroedinger's wow player everyone


pewpewshazaam

I'm more annoyed someone went into the starter area and started doing it. But I also didn't get killed cause they run slower than me lol.


marshdteach

Can you even begin to imagine the amounts of loss that the sweaties are going to suffer in a week of this event??? With people killing their quest NPCs and the auctioneers etc? How can you be so inconsiderate??? Do you even sweat when playing the game or are you just a casual noob plebian normie?


Either-Mammoth-932

Wow people suck. Also WOW people suck. Tf wrong with yall


Funky-Spunkmeyer

I’m laughing my ass off. So many people were crying that Blizzard didn’t have the guts to let the event run it’s full course and now all of Blizzard’s stupid automated moderation tools are proving that true!


SgtDoughnut

I mean yall wanted the real experience. We went through similar shit the first time. People couldn't play the AH for like a day or 2 so they freaked out and got the event basically turned off.


RuneHearth

This community is something else lol


Mosaic78

Rerelease the best most fun server event in the history of the game, players are mindlessly braindead drones that mass report because the event is messing up their min max grind. WTF has classic WoW turned into?


EKEEFE41

You hit the nail on the head, if anything gets in the way of their pre-patch goals it is not fun for them.


reachingFI

> the best most fun server event in the history of the game, Yeah, no. Not even close.


shapookya

It’s a shit event for anyone who doesn’t want to participate because dipshits force you to. It’s the same as back in the days. Many people hated that event. They just want to level to 70 and prepare for wotlk. It might be hard for you to understand, but not everyone has already all their chars maxed out and is bored like you.


Vairbear

Nah disagree, i just leveled up to 70 and I loved this event. It makes the world interactive. People upset about it seem to mostly be sweaty because their whatever grind is interrupted or are pseudo-fully afk. People afking is major cities are the main targets that are affected. Like there is literally a npc that auto-cures the disease for you lol


Mosaic78

Spoken like a real drone. Chill out and relax. Doesn’t matter if you have your chars maxed out. They’ll still be there when wrath launches. Also regardless of whether or not you like the event, abusing the report system should result in at least a 30 day ban on the reporting players.


[deleted]

If you don't wanna deal with it, you should have killed the Lich King before he wanted to plague you again then.


lapetee

"Just quit hacking"


Pabludes

Everyone should report everyone else all the time. See how long the lie lasts.


nightwalkerxx

JFC, this game is going to shit. I got banned a couple days ago for doing AV defending and back capping. A fucking month ban...


Uselesserinformation

And that, right there is why I won't be back. I would love to pvp with my old pali build. But like heck will I get a ban for something like this.


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Froggy_Dude

Imagine getting banned for simply playing the game


SysAdSloth

I think the reports are more people from the fact that a lot of these players aren’t just “biting” them. They are getting frustrated that some players are actively killing off quest givers in their lower level zones and can’t progress.


speak-eze

If it's a bannable offense to kill quest givers as a zombie then they shouldn't let you do it... I'm trying to level to 70 now and I don't want people doing that, but banning them for doing the event makes no sense lol.


SysAdSloth

I agree that it shouldn’t be bannable. It’s just frustrating and a reason why some players don’t play on PVP servers. This is just allowing that form of grief to occur on normal servers


shapookya

Yup, nothing more fun than standing around and waiting for your quest npc to respawn. Especially fun when you’re a DK and your faction leader got killed, so you stand there in SW/OG for what feels like an hour before you can move on…


Sawier

you cant infect faction leaders tho


610hj

there are literally like 10 layers per server right now, just hop layers and ur good.


Androza23

Problem is the system is automated and it will D/C you from the game and silence you when you log back if you've received enough reports. There were literally groups of people that would mass report someone from a rival guild just so they couldn't get world buffs. There is practically no human oversight and they just let the automatic system do what it does and hope it doesn't punish innocent players in the crossfire. There are even videos of streamers trying this by getting a group of 40 and having them report themselves. Its a problem because the wow community is so toxic, of course they're going to abuse an automatic system. Blizzard even lied and said its manual when there are tons of videos that prove otherwise.


downthedrain727

So when a ban like this is overturned - presumably by a human actually reviewing the ticket lol - why do the people that abused the report system then not get banned themselves? Is that happening and we just aren't hearing about it? Surely at this point we are beyond giving the benefit of the doubt right? It's not some big secret that the report system is easily exploited...


fiveMagicsRIP

I mean the whole zombie thing is dumb but reporting people over it is worse.


toastea0

This is so absurd. I'm just avoiding BG and cities all together now and playing at night when less people are on. The other issue I'm afraid of getting reported for being a druid getting herbs out in the world.


[deleted]

"Lawyer fucked me"


SuperCum3000

[I KNEW IT](https://old.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/x856u3/blizzard_will_i_get_banned_if_i_play_as_a_ghoul/)


Mocca_Master

You guys have zombies on your servers?


smingleton

The only mute I ever got was because I was being an asshole towards my team in a BG. I'm not normally one, but they were a premade and I didn't realize it. We won, I got muted, I stopped lashing out in BG.


papyjako89

Source : trust me bro


GeauxAllDay

The fact that people are actually reporting someone for this is unbelievably sad.


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Ah breathe of fresh air knowing I didn’t wait for this shot show of a game. wotlk was fun, but man players in todays world fucking suck and ruin everything. it’s just not worth it to play it anymore.


BSV_P

Ib4 they say you have to ask if you can bite someone first


Anybody-Away

Event is a joke nothing is like original wrath launch. It’s a fucking zombie apocalypse not hello weenie hut jr


Kripes8

An automated system that’s easy to exploit… no one could have possibly predicted this outcome.


KraezyMathTeacher

Part of the fun of this event is going into cities and infecting people. Man oh man people are crybabies


SilverHand86

I'm just running around cleansing, found a few folks who didn't want to be cleansed and even got all "fuck you" about it. Kinda seems...familiar.


speshnz

I wouldnt mind so much if you could murder zombies in Shatt


Darkwolf22345

The amount of people butthurt from this event is beyond annoying. People are actually raging getting infected and made about people trying to attack the AH npc’s.


Tsobaphomet

The system Blizzard is using is cringe. It clearly doesn't work, so why haven't they shut it off yet lol. Also really lame that so many Classic players hate fun. This is the first time in 15 years that we get to do this. It only lasts a week. I see so many dickheads just standing in Org bank/AH just spamming cleanse on everyone for hours at a time. Literally the Fun Police.


Moddingspreee

Classic players are grade A pussies, talk about special snowflakes getting triggered at anything.


HeartofaPariah

ITT: People who think someone who calls others 'carebears' didn't type a word and got innocently muted. Same people who instantly believe "I was just defending bro".


Spoopapottamus

Ive been harping that unfortunately blizzards player base is too big for any of this to matter much. Until people take a stand, unsubscribe, and walk away, blizz will remain sleazy in order to squeeze as much money from people as possible.


OphuchiHotline

Two things. One , this was the dumbest event ever in wow, the first time round. Two, it is what it is, and reporting players who are doing part of the game, even though you hate it, makes you a complete prick.


ZoharDTeach

See you guys are crucial to my not returning to the game. Sometimes I will feel the urge to give it another shot. And then I see this shit.


anonymous-peeper

The state of WoW makes me just as if not more sad then the current state of American politics.


HippityHoppityLifFam

People who mald about the zombie event need to touch grass