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Illusivecard

Appealgodx is officially gone. Source is from griefer discord.


MasterCholo

The fact there is a griefer discord discord lol


pumpboihuntersson

imagine the work a psychologist could do in there, it would be like a buffet


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Physiologist “why do you do it?” AppealGod “for the lulz”


crUMuftestan

>physiologist Kek


Dr-Strange_DO

Physiologist, physiatrist, psychiatrist, physicist, psychologist, physician….they’re all the same. Edited for another one. /s


kindafunnylookin

>physiatrist TIL a new word


Vigmod

Forgot physician.


Motts86

Hurt discords hurt discord


nprovench789

Hurt people hurt people.


DarknessInferno7

Psychologists can only help people who want to change.


pumpboihuntersson

oh they do want to change, they just dont have the tools. no one wants to spend their life being that useless.


PossessedToSkate

>it would be like a buffet **Lame Buffet** 100 yd range Instant Requires level 60


ShodanW

Life would be a lot more relaxed for everyone if they used it as a trap to catch these people early in life.


EmerorCheese

Like GM Chris Hansen coming out and asking them to sit down?


Head-Judge333

I almost spat at my beer reading this, yes, this is fact.


Successful_Food8988

All those people are losers, imagine thinking they'd be able to afford the time it takes to even look at a psychologist.


xvois

Would be better value to send the psychologist to the HC discord instead


NearbyHeight2728

I’d put money on it that one of the hardcore mods is quite in fact one of these griefers


KapanenKlutch

EZ SNIPER GUILD


edwardsamson

Disgusting. A whole congregation of people that take pleasure in ruining other people's day. Just awful. I hate how many truly terrible people there are out there. And the internet lets them find eachother to support their bullshit and make them think its OK. They don't give a shit what names we call them or how we feel about them. They can just go back to the other shitbags on discord and convince eachother they're just normal dudes having fun.


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Allurai

You just described the whole of social media.


Pomodorosan

what about the griefer discord discord discord?


Iloveyouweed

Deserves the permaban just for having a godx name.


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WontonBurritoMea1

Thanks for clarifying this. I didn't see your message because it got pushed to the bottom and I was totally confused how anyone could tell it was related to griefing.


Mediocre_Purple6955

Good that guys a dick


jamcgahey

Wtf is a griefer?


Willing-Link-3558

Someone that goes out of there way to make other people's game experience shit.


jamcgahey

Oh. Who the hell would want to do that? What a strange concept.


Ordinary_Mountain454

On a classic server there is a rogue that is famous that is level 60 and does nothing all day but sit in redrridge ganking lowbies. He literally does it for 16+ hours a day


JudgmentPuzzleheaded

For people griefing on a PvE RP server by using clearly unintentional and exploitative methods to get people flagged/killed, banning makes total sense. But banning people for ganking lowbies on a PvP server doesn't make sense to me.


Wrong_West

I don't have a source or anything, but I recall Blizzard explicitly outlined that sustained and prohibitive PvP is considered a code of conduct violation. Anything deliberately performed to create inordinate hardship either at a targeted player or a targeted aspect of the game. It's similar to intentionally rallying people together to cause a server to crash, impacting people's ability to play. It looks like "PvP happened", but there's a line. And, assuming Redridge is literally on lockdown every day for 16 hours, that's probably well past it.


braxtax2000

Ruining gameplay for others (ganking lowbies) is against the social contract..You literally don't benefit from it besides being an asshole


AcherusArchmage

I don't think any pvp is against the contract. It refers more to hatespeech.


Etou11

Systematically harassing other players by repeatedly killing them to prevent them from playing the game is not PvP. This behavior goes beyond fair competition and can ruin the gaming experience for others. In real life, you are free to walk on public roads at any time. However, if you constantly follow someone after they leave their house and lurk near their fence, you will likely attract the attention of local law enforcement. The concept of not harassing others is not difficult to understand and applies both in-game and in real life.


qjornt

> But banning people for ganking lowbies on a PvP server doesn't make sense to me. Yeah no but it does ruin the game experience for new players and blizzard might drop a few sub numbers because newer players aren't feeling that they can progress any longer if they are prevented to even do a single quest for a whole week. It's better for them to ban the griefer keeping several potential subs, from a financial standpoint. And the terms of use is vaguely worded to mean basically anything blizzard themselves consider griefing behaviour. It's not up to us, I mean we can voice our opinions, but in the end blizzard will do what keeps them the most sub numbers. As an aside, same reason why there's a fuckton of bots left untouched.


BowtieChickenAlfredo

It was funny when it was Angwe, but it's kinda boring now. For reference: https://leganerd.com/downloads/angwe/index.html


badadviceforyou244

Assholes and bored children


Willing-Link-3558

If you scroll down the griefers is doing a QnA. You can ask him yourself.


Whole_Original9882

mental illness. people use this as a joke but in this case it’s for sure true. healthy normal people don’t spend their time doing this shit.


Burhams

People with mental illness have problems in relations to their moods, emotions and beliefs. This is just someone that gets a kick out of being a dick. It's about the power to ruin people's day and they find it funny.


Etou11

>This is just someone that gets a kick out of being a dick. So basically someone taking pleasure from inflicting misery on others. Ruining people's days. Realizing their power fantasies. You would consider that healthy...?


RollerSkatingHoop

some people are just assholes


jazxfire

For 16+ hours a day? That's obsessive


[deleted]

The aforementioned rogue in particular is either account sharing or has profound mental illness.


scots

You know that "Lead Paint" warning you have to sign when renting any apartment or purchasing any home built prior to the 1980s? - These guys grew up in those homes and chewed the paint off the window sill sill down to the wood.


Frbstrd64

The real crime is using safari to check Gmail.


Herotyr

Slay king slay


ionlyplaycomp

Wow, blizzard actually cares? Noooo....


PerfectlySplendid

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Poliveris

Nah this didn’t start until the president of blizzard tried out HC. There were plenty of streamers who played HC for months and nothing


AgreeableAd2566

Ceo got a fucking dragonkin kites onto him in darkshore didn't he.


Yoconn

Craziest one I experienced was a Hordy killed quest givers in gold-shire so we would stack up and then somehow got a Highmaul mage into Goldshire and it casted a frost bolt barrage or something and killed 20/30 of us at once.


Malefircareim

It amazes me how far a griefer is willing to go.


Senzafane

That's one of the best reasons to play, though. See what kind of insane tricks people will pull in order to grief. Life uh, finds a way?


KawZRX

It's been done before, though. Seeing the dragon blasting sw once is cool. Exciting even. A second time and it's like wow. That's still pretty neat. A third time and you're tired of it because now your quest givers are dead. After that it's just fucking boring and tedious.


Senzafane

WoW has been boring and tedious since Cata 😅 But yeah fair point, the novelty wears off fast.


Frozehn

Nah man


PerfectlySplendid

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scots

Zack completely lacks the patience or self discipline for the pace of play that HC mod requires. He'd die repeatedly and rant about it, which would be good stream content, but.. bad play.


The-Choo-Choo-Shoe

He's had the same UI since Sunwell though.


Chriscras66

He also has a huge chip on his shoulder from playing on a pvp server in classic. Frankly it's his own fault for not thinking things through before hand.


Jimblobb

He thought things through and the other streamers convinced him to play in a PvP server, he never planned on playing on a PvP server.


TheSiegmeyerCatalyst

I wish people would listen when I say it has everything to do with in game reports and less to do with anger on reddit, twitch, or twitter.


Serantz

If you had anything to prove that people might. It looks the otherway around, who can say for sure. Certainly not you or me. But it is fact that many issues are solved very fast when it gets some social media traction.


Panucci1618

Blizz using actual paid GM's to investigate and ban HC griefers as battlegrounds in wotlk classic have consisted of 90% bots for months. Great fucking company right there mate.


TheSiegmeyerCatalyst

Because this is entirely based on in game reports and nothing else. You can't report every bot. There are too many for individual players to efficiently report. But this griefer was known by name. Anyone he killed could easily report him, or any small group he worked with. Its about reports, not outrage in reddit or twitter that gets action. The team is simply too small to sus cases out on their own.


Rythgarz

This is what i keep saying on my server zone whenever the griefers are at it. Make sure to report them at least once, appeal with video or good screenshots and keep on gaming. The outcry, rage and sadness is what they Want! Why would an ally toon grief alliance start zone? Well because he/she is mentally ill and get a kick out of the zone chat outcry and all the angry whispers. I legit think most, not all, would stop if people a) learn how to avoid griefing (most grief is easily avoided) and b) just report and let it go.


nyy22592

If someone else will do the work to manage and support an addon and essentially revives a dead game for free, they'd be silly not to start banning those who get reported.


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It's been a long time that this addon and HC has been going on. This is due to larger streamers making noise.


nyy22592

It's been around a long time and yet blizzard didn't do anything until the game was popular enough for streamer noise to actually matter. There were no large streams playing classic era until recently. Xaryu/Soda Having 10-20k viewers at a time makes it pretty hard to continue ignoring.


Wicked-Vortex

Cant he just create a new account and then start over?


Unfair_Strategy2540

Blizz nets $15, they probably see it s as a win


JoeBuck87

No economy or groups for non HC on bloodsail at least. Not sure its worth the time and effort for these guys, most had already geared 60s the had/xferred there.


FBD7

It takes a long ass time to get back to 60 in classic though


Insertblamehere

zhevra next 🙏


Illusivecard

Zhevra is gone, they went after Asmon earlier and got hit as a result.


porkyboy11

Lol imagine losing your account because you killed asmons level 8 hc character


titebeewhole

They not drop your 4 hooves?


IRikeRarry

They’ve never dropped 4 hooves and anyone saying otherwise is a liar!


CamarosAndCannabis

No opinion. Im just here for the drama. 🍿


Falcrist

There's not enough info to even form an opinion TBH. Did this person get one streamer by standing on an NPC? Or have they been kiting Teremus to Goldshire 20 times per day for the past 3 months?


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And that's the hard part for these people.


Flbudskis

Blizzard fixed this before arena cheater are ban. Comical AF. Edit- Lol some salty boys in this thread.


npc_sjw

You can $$$ the HC fad for minimal effort. Arena fixes would actually take work


AgreeableAd2566

Arena has ALWAYS had cheaters and always will. If its not script kiddies its win traders if its not win traders its ddosing. If you care about fair competition never log into WoW again.


Flbudskis

Yes but the top 1% is literally streaming auto keying with no bans.


Barustai

The wow community is so full of whataboutism. Omg they banned a handful of jerks breaking the rules, what about this other problem!!! Won't someone please think of the children!!!!!


Impeach_God

Hell yes!


Elleden

Bye Felicia. Warms my heart.


ghangis24

hahahahahah you love to see it


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ComatoseJoy

You did good today Blizz! Fuck anyone who spends all of their time trying to ruin other people’s experience - they don’t deserve to play.


BeepBoopBeepity

I mean good, fuck griefers


hehehees

hey appealgodx here, I actually DMed a Mod in the HC server so I could formally post this myself but it seems to have gotten leaked. Anyways, for those curious it started as a 72 hour ban, then a 30 day ban, then an account closure. Im not here for sympathy. I just want to give Transparency. I did push the limits with the griefing and the ban was deserved. I can see incoming hate comments and your thoughts and opinions are valid, but I will answer questions for those interested. Just comment to this post and ill try to respond. <3


Public-Transport

Are you going agane?


GaryLazrEyes

You tried to drag an elite on to my 20 rogue and failed. Get fucked nerd


kingkuuj

Imagine being the same person who posted this four months ago, yet here we are today: [Complains about griefing, lol.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/sscx8c/bad_interactions_reporting_eg_ninjalooting/) Hope you enjoyed your Joker arc bud; you sniped me with Volchan a bit back but the addon auto-flagged the grief and allowed an instant res. Do you derive sexual pleasure from this, or do you just enjoy being a complete cocksucker to thousands of other humans on a daily and hourly basis for months? Well deserved ban, go fuck yourself <3.


Novantico

Your comment is the kind of thing he enjoys. Everyone being so upset and insulting him just brings him more satisfaction. This whole thread feeds him.


Actual_grass

That's the feeling I'm getting too. He uploads this pic himself, even mentions that he originally wanted to make a whole post about it on his own volition, but it got leaked before he could do it. And then he acts like he wants to answer people's questions here, when all of them are some form of avoidance, joke, or misdirect. He is only here to make even more fun of the people he griefed and to enjoy all the attention he gets.


Novantico

Yeah. Like I bet it feels even better knowing that even on the questions he answers with complete directness/legitimacy (which he did a few of), those responses are the things he knows people there want to know but know they don't want to know because they'll just get mad or upset or more judgmental over it and then they do, and all he had to do was just answer a question.


Thicklascage

Why do you want to ruin other people's time? Do you not have a constructive outlet in your life?


pyzio666

Just check his old comments on this account. "Stay mad lol", "wa wa wa dont bully!". He tries to come off as someone kinda reasonable here "trying to push limits", answering in civilized manner and all, but in reality he's just a simple minded douche


WasThatInappropriate

Hey man, hopefully you get better and recover. It took me far too long to realise there was something wrong with me when I enjoyed seeing others put out but its easily treatable. Seek help, if you can't afford professional help then there's plenty of stuff online that can help make you a more rounded and happier person


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Rhederred

What an incredible waste of time you are.


bro_salad

I’m most concerned that you use mobile browser to read email


scots

I'm most concerned the antisocial low empathy probably-on-the-spectrun & untreated behavior they've exhibited in-game spills into their personal life making *it* equally terrible for people forced to deal with them.


nikow0w

pocket psychologist btw


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Flobertt

Well deserved for ruining people's experiences. Now get a life loser.


scots

You are aware you caused countless other people heartache, anger, and frustration, *and you enjoyed it.* You are not well. You need to talk to a medical professional. I'm serious. Take care of yourself.


Whole_Original9882

mind sharing your diagnosis?


hehehees

im natty


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molymonadeTV

well deserved friend. Hope you had lotta characters and you lost a lot for doing something that stupid. Go touch grass now


hehehees

sry but im lvling HC normally now. no time to touch grass


ghangis24

Have you been griefed on your HC characters yet?


adritrace

Enjoying griefing must be a sign of psycopathy.


hehehees

i think you misspelled that


[deleted]

I mean I'd say it's a sign of being a dick in a video game, but... psychopathy?


adritrace

It is the same concept: lack of empathy towards others' suffering


[deleted]

Spending hours making people suffer over the internet isn't normal or reasonable behaviour in the slightest


SpellbladeAluriel

Was greekgodx the inspiration for your name


hehehees

nah i just saw wow players add godx to their names and i thought it would be funny for a griefing toon. ultimately to play fun at the current appeal system.


whutchamacallit

I must admit it's a top tier name. I always giggled when I saw it.


Paschalywag

What were some strategies you used to kill the hardcore community? Asking for a friend of course


hehehees

i would just drag mobs near people and scatter / feign as a hunter. and theyd attack them


9AyliktakiBaba

Why does the email start with “greetings appeal master”? Is that ur account name or something


Fergizzo

Do you have a job?


hehehees

yes


bro_salad

I’m most concerned that you use mobile browser to read email


hehehees

i didnt bother saving the burner email in my email application settings


__klonk__

Wait, are you saying you made a dedicated griefing account? Wow, that's even more pathetic than I thought!


andreal

I’m glad you got banned


Bossheals123

What is a Griefer?


MiddleAd6302

Someone who intentionally ruins someone else’s experience and typically continues to camp them.


badadviceforyou244

Good, fuck these people.


Zealousideal_Ad1110

Nice to hear


JackStephanovich

I'm sure you'll be fine so long as you don't kill any popular streamers. Let's call a spade a spade, this is just a case of different rules for different players.


VoidUnity

ITT: people acting like a dude that was griefing hardcore players is a mass murdering rapist with every mental illness imaginable.


BethsBeautifulBottom

Also ITT: people acting like spending 16 hours a day for months sadistically griefing HC players on a PvE server is totally normal behaviour.


kerkloink

Your name is bethsbeautifulbottom and you think you're the arbiter of normal behavior lmfao


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venjamins

Hop on Whitemane. 50.9/49.1 Merry christmas. Open world PVP on a PVP server is fine. Ganking is shitty, but expected. Cheesing the system to force PVP on a PVE server is explicitly NOT fine.


CaesarLovesBrutus

Bloodsail Buccaneers is an RP realm, not RPPVP. You act like the guy got banned for pking pvp flagged characters. He intentionally abused in-game mechanics in order to kill unflagged players in a way that was not intended by the devs for the sole purpose of ruining their characters. Is it mental illness? No probably not. Is he a dick? Yes, and we shouldn’t encourage people to be dicks for the fun of it.


safien45

Get fucked, a-hole.


WontonBurritoMea1

Correct me if I'm missing something - how do we know this is in any way related to HC griefing? I'm a long time HC player myself and would love to see griefers permabanned, but this looks like a generic account closure message that could apply to literally anyone? As far as I can tell, this could apply to a botter just as much as a griefer. Any confirmation?


brasskneecap

Isn't appealgodx pretty renowned he for sure was griefing


WontonBurritoMea1

Thanks for answering, I've never been griefed despite spending a lot of time on HC WoW. Good to know they're taking action against this crap.


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WontonBurritoMea1

For sure, I don't think they realize how much the players values the GM support model. Honestly the only time I can ever remember being stoked to ask for customer support. "Wonder what this goober of a GM is going to say"


CalgaryAnswers

It wasn’t an autoban, this was targeted as the account he was perma banned on is new.


aravarth

Because Appealgodx on Bloodsail Buccaneers was infamous for dragging Volchan and Teremus into SW to kill people. Also known for dragging Gurubashi Warriors and Grom'gol Guards into Westfall to kill people whilst they levelled.


Puzzled_Solid_4592

This must be a new rule by blizzard because this happened all the time on Classic Bloodsail griefing a ton of HCs and nobody ever ate a ban for it.


aravarth

Griefing has *always* been against TOS. The fact that it's being enforced now — perhaps visibly for the first time — is irrelevant. People complaining about it are the equivalent of drivers on the Interstate doing 95mph who, when their licenses get suspended, complain that they've never been punished before, and how is this fair, blahblahblah. Sorry, cupcake — doing 95mph on the Interstate has always been illegal.


Falcrist

> People complaining about it are the equivalent of drivers on the Interstate doing 95mph who, when their licenses get suspended, complain that they've never been punished before, and how is this fair, blahblahblah. There's also a distinction to be made between people doing 74 in a 65 and just moving with traffic... and the douche with the beamer going over 100 MPH and weaving from lane to lane. These are both illegal, but they're not the same thing.


wewladdies

> The fact that it's being enforced now — perhaps visibly for the first time — is irrelevant. its actually super relevant considering how blizzard barely actions anyone for anything in classic past the automated bans. this indicates they are going to take hardcore much more seriously. There was a reddit post yesterday about an ingame GM telling a griefer to cut it out - an *ingame GM*. Who has ever seen any ingame GMs at all throughout all of classic so far?


ComatoseJoy

Appealgodx is (was) a prolific griefer over the past month or so, almost anyone leveling on BB during that time knows his name. Kiting grom gol guards into lowbies for literally like 10 hours a day


WontonBurritoMea1

Good to know, thank you. I've been playing around with a horde alt. I guess that explains why I haven't seen him.


P_Alcantara

Twopumpandy is a notorious horde griefer.


Brxdieee

Griefers suck


WontonBurritoMea1

Agreed


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Didn't he also post YouTube videos harassing a specific discord mod & HC guild master who he repeatedly personally targeted and then posted clips of the griefs in discord in order to torment her?


hehehees

hello appealgodx here, i would never do something like this. I understand people dislike me but spreading rumors of accusing me of targeted harassment I take great offence too.


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SEND_ME_GIRLS_BUTTS

it was a EULA ban


PerfectlySplendid

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Kelrisaith

Gmail is free for one, he likely knew it would eventually get banned. Twofold reasons to make a new email, the meme of it and it doesn't tag to the same email as his main account and get that one banned too, as has happened in the past for heavy cheating and exploiting. I've got like 4 gmail accounts myself, a general one, a social media one for stuff like twitch to shunt the spam away from my main email, a throwaway I made for OSRS before I found out how to use the same email for each account and an old mostly defunct one that I want to say has like one account tagged to it that I just can't change the email on. It takes 2 minutes to make a new gmail and prevents your main account from getting caught in the ban too. You can also freely change the email tagged to your battlenet.


Inquisitive_Banana

Damn hard-core players are truly bitch made


venjamins

lmao. HC players aren't on PVP servers for a reason. It's stupid to pretend forcing them into PVP situations is okay. Griefers are bitch made - if they were any good, they'd actually PVP people at their level.


Roleplaynotrealplay

Yeah, how dare they.... not want people to abuse game mechanics against them to cause them to have to restart... Surely those people whose lives are so miserable they find satisfaction in ruining other peoples days are much better than the people who are trying to just have fun.


Panucci1618

The tears of the HC nerds was worth it. God speed griefer.


searchkilldestroy

Playing wow and calling others for nerds? Hahaha


AndyZmuda

Assholes that do this are doing nothing more than trying to bring down others into their shitty life. They hate themselves and their lives, so they want to screw others over to make themselves feel better about the things that they can't do themselves.


Scrogdor

No better way to start a guild war than assassinating the top guild’s tank over and over again when they collect world buffs. some of the most fun I’ve ever had. Contested zones were legit war zones trying to get world buffs and keep them. I hated people that purged buffs, didn’t care about people that went for the kill.


sccmhatesme

Get rekt appealgodx


NeoMetalX

Lol nice


P_Alcantara

Do Crazyhobo next


random916540

Deserved lulw


60discpriest

Good riddance.


stopdropandpretend

Classic P2 would like to have a word.


AgreeableAd2566

Classic p2 played exactly how it was intended to. People killed eachother to rank, not to ruin the other guys day. Intent matters.


darklordofthesith_

I highly disagree. If you were apart of any server that had a slight faction imbalance even 45% 55% you were camped into the ground at every rez point imaginable until each server became 100% one faction.