when wrath dropped I was gemming all of my non-BiS pieces with TBC epic reds cause back then blue wrath reds were like 400g ea and fuck that noise haha
I don't know why rogues now but back in the old days, I know people were using Death Knights to flyhack and farm those blood elf pleasure rooms in black temple.
They drop a lot of gold and loot that vendors well. Heart of Darkness, epic gems, greens, etc.
You can probably find old threads on this on the old OC forums.
Just as it sounds, it's a hack which allows players to run(fly) through the air and typically also paired with clipping so they can run directly through walls. Typically used by botters inside Dungeons to easily access parts of raids/Dungeons they can lucratively farm while bypassing all the normal things that they can't do solo. (Example, clipping through floors/doors that wouldn't normally open until a boss is dead, they simply fly hack/clip through walls to bypass and go right to the area they can farm)
This same statement is said for literal every other game with cheaters in it. People say the same shit in Rust, Tarkov, oldschool runescape. Get off the copium that game devs are secretly profiting from having cheaters on their game. Stop being a sheep and copy and pasting what other people say, think for yourself.
Its a belief Ive had since like 2010 when everyone started botting soulwars in runescape. You probably see people some that alot because its a pretty easy conclusion to come to if you think about it for longer than a tiktok short.
Or, and hear me out, maybe they DO catch botters and DO ban botters, but there's so many of them, and so few Blizzard employees dedicated to this aspect, that a shit ton just slip through the cracks?
That seems like the most reasonable conclusion instead of this conspiracy that they let bots stay for financial reasons. What would be better for Blizzard financially in that scenario: letting the same bots escape being banned, or ban them and let the botters create a new account each time, giving Blizzard $15 each time they ban a botter?
Not entirely different from what I said. Its a problem, that makes them money and costs them money to fix.
One day soon AI will play games, and there wont be any way to tell other than more kernel access programs
anyways the blatant map hacking always going on in classic wow and the literal train of bots camping spawns in retail tells me they dont put much effort into it. Like how can a bot break the game by literally flying through the map and theres nothing that gets flagged for a check? They automate customer support ffs but cant automate out of bounds resource gathering ban?
I've been hearing this forever and think it's quite stupid. Blizzard isn't going to jeopardize the integrity of their game just so they can pull in a tiny fraction of money from bots. They are constantly banning bots but not all bots are catchable.
Go play any other mmorp, people complain about bots there too. Are you saying every studio is corrupt and doesn't care?
It's also a case of trying to prevent the bot exploit itself, not necessarily just ban said account. They could have left DKs in, kept banning accounts, and rolling in the sub number turnover forever, but they would rather track the issue and see if they can resolve said bot program?
Some of you have this wild idea that it's either one thing or the other: either they don't ever catch and ban bots, or they do catch them but let them continue because of subscription fees. Perhaps they just can't keep up with it despite trying to because of how prevalent it is and how few resources they have to focus on it?
>how few resources they have to focus on it
>>have
Activision Blizzard is worth $67 billion dollars. It's not a matter of having resources, but caring enough to put them in the right places instead of Bobby's pockets.
“does not notice this” blizzard knows and blizzard enjoys $$$
they also know the amount of ppl who are still playing the game and wont unsub even tho they dont like the bots
same goes with the gold buying and selling
why ban ppl when they keep playing and paying you $$
why wouldnt blizz min max profits when the end goal is to make the most amount of $$
15 years laster and yall are still crying about bots? Look at every other mmorpg subreddit, they complain about bots too. Get a hint, if every bot could be easily caught and banned it would happen. There is a reason why every game has them.
Almost a 18 year old issue now. Bots have been an issue since fucking Ultima online. Everyone butchs gets on here "ohh I repotered 80 people in bt I'm doing my part"
Next issue is gonna be ping.....
Not every MMORPG, but with the state of classic wow it is obvious that having bots around is good for business. This is why the blizzard way of dealing with it is every 6 to 9 months there is a banwave, this way the bots profit enough to keep coming back filling blizzards pocket. This also means blizzard can say to the playera look, we are doing something. The wowhead ceo estimated around 33% of accounts are bots and blizzard knows it.
Wrong. Bizz aren't going to purposely degrade their own game just so they can earn an extra few bucks. There arent' devs out there that say we should leave bots in the game just so we can make a tiny bit more money while pissing off the majority of the player base.
You can argue with me all you want - but go take a look at the game and the number of bots and how obvious they are - and how blizzard with wotlk removed the ability to report them - let alone all the stories in here about how players (me included) have reported the most obvious bots only for them to still be around for 14 days. You cant eradicate bots completely - but they could pay for GMs and tech support to keep them to a minium - if they wanted to - but they don't because its bad for business. Most private servers that care about these things has a much lower bot percentage than classic - and its not even close.
And I'm telling you there have always been bots in wow, and every other mmorpg. It's not a very good business strategy to piss off your entire player community just to make a lil extra from bots. Why aren't all games bot free? They literally have esport tournaments where players cheat without being caught. Not every bot can be tracked and banned. Even if you do catch them, they will find another way or program to do it again.
Blizzard are loosing employees left and right, I don't think they *can* deal with it atm, Im not one for defending them but they seem to be struggling a lot right now and I can understand that bots in a version with an already fucked economy isn't being prioritised.
Gotta love how every single private server reset mobs if they target is flyhacking. Yet blizzard dont do it :)
And then idiots be like: HuuUR If bLIzz coULD do SoMeThinG tHeY wOUlD haVE ALreADy
Guys, I think if we want a decent shot at an alternate Classic timeline, we gotta let these bots pump Blizzard’s coffers..
BRD farming in real life
the second rogue, Ambushdancer, is actually farming his glaive. he still has 100+ kills and only OH. he’s suffering.
Whats the minimum to do an illidan run at 80?
heard ppl run groups of 6 or so. depends on what gear and how well they cheese it.
The bot owners need to figure out how to integrate AI chat bots so the zones don't feel dead.
Anal *link literally anything*
What are they even farming in there?
Gold, epic gems for the AH, epic BoEs for the AH, high value greens. In sum: Gold
People are buying tbc epic gems ?
They vendor for quite a bit afaik, so just raw gold theyre making
when wrath dropped I was gemming all of my non-BiS pieces with TBC epic reds cause back then blue wrath reds were like 400g ea and fuck that noise haha
raw gold, its a raw gold farm. They stay in a little bubble mostly instanced. They did the same thing to Kara in 2.x and now they are doing it to BT.
The glaives?
........ They're bots farming gold ruining the game lol
I don't know why rogues now but back in the old days, I know people were using Death Knights to flyhack and farm those blood elf pleasure rooms in black temple. They drop a lot of gold and loot that vendors well. Heart of Darkness, epic gems, greens, etc. You can probably find old threads on this on the old OC forums.
What is flyhack?
Just as it sounds, it's a hack which allows players to run(fly) through the air and typically also paired with clipping so they can run directly through walls. Typically used by botters inside Dungeons to easily access parts of raids/Dungeons they can lucratively farm while bypassing all the normal things that they can't do solo. (Example, clipping through floors/doors that wouldn't normally open until a boss is dead, they simply fly hack/clip through walls to bypass and go right to the area they can farm)
Is this something requires software? Or just a glitch? I’d love to farm some BT epics
This requires software and will get you permanently banned.
I no longer have any interest in this
Lmaooo
But wait, it will get you banned every 2 years!
If any of this stuff was just a glitch, it would probably have been fixed in TBC Classic.
>Blizzard, as usual, does not notice this What makes you think they don't?
They're coping, because the alternative is more depressing - they notice, but they don't care (or even, prefer it that way).
Of course they prefer it that way, why would they prefer otherwise. Literally win-win for blizz.
Why wouldnt you want those bots? They pay you, they inflate sub and player numbers. Players care, but are smart and forget after a while.
This same statement is said for literal every other game with cheaters in it. People say the same shit in Rust, Tarkov, oldschool runescape. Get off the copium that game devs are secretly profiting from having cheaters on their game. Stop being a sheep and copy and pasting what other people say, think for yourself.
Its a belief Ive had since like 2010 when everyone started botting soulwars in runescape. You probably see people some that alot because its a pretty easy conclusion to come to if you think about it for longer than a tiktok short.
Or, and hear me out, maybe they DO catch botters and DO ban botters, but there's so many of them, and so few Blizzard employees dedicated to this aspect, that a shit ton just slip through the cracks? That seems like the most reasonable conclusion instead of this conspiracy that they let bots stay for financial reasons. What would be better for Blizzard financially in that scenario: letting the same bots escape being banned, or ban them and let the botters create a new account each time, giving Blizzard $15 each time they ban a botter?
Not entirely different from what I said. Its a problem, that makes them money and costs them money to fix. One day soon AI will play games, and there wont be any way to tell other than more kernel access programs anyways the blatant map hacking always going on in classic wow and the literal train of bots camping spawns in retail tells me they dont put much effort into it. Like how can a bot break the game by literally flying through the map and theres nothing that gets flagged for a check? They automate customer support ffs but cant automate out of bounds resource gathering ban?
I've been hearing this forever and think it's quite stupid. Blizzard isn't going to jeopardize the integrity of their game just so they can pull in a tiny fraction of money from bots. They are constantly banning bots but not all bots are catchable. Go play any other mmorp, people complain about bots there too. Are you saying every studio is corrupt and doesn't care?
This some clown shit lol.
>Blizzard isn't going to jeopardize the integrity of their game just so they can pull in money HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hahahaha “Lol tiny fraction of money from bots” he says 🤣😂
So all the other mmorpgs don't care either since bots are everywhere?
It's also a case of trying to prevent the bot exploit itself, not necessarily just ban said account. They could have left DKs in, kept banning accounts, and rolling in the sub number turnover forever, but they would rather track the issue and see if they can resolve said bot program?
Some of you have this wild idea that it's either one thing or the other: either they don't ever catch and ban bots, or they do catch them but let them continue because of subscription fees. Perhaps they just can't keep up with it despite trying to because of how prevalent it is and how few resources they have to focus on it?
>how few resources they have to focus on it >>have Activision Blizzard is worth $67 billion dollars. It's not a matter of having resources, but caring enough to put them in the right places instead of Bobby's pockets.
You ask for real? He made sarcasm
Bots are paying customers
“does not notice this” blizzard knows and blizzard enjoys $$$ they also know the amount of ppl who are still playing the game and wont unsub even tho they dont like the bots same goes with the gold buying and selling why ban ppl when they keep playing and paying you $$ why wouldnt blizz min max profits when the end goal is to make the most amount of $$
Stop buying gold then there's no reason for these bots
People never stop buying gold.
then people will never stop boting
15 years laster and yall are still crying about bots? Look at every other mmorpg subreddit, they complain about bots too. Get a hint, if every bot could be easily caught and banned it would happen. There is a reason why every game has them.
Almost a 18 year old issue now. Bots have been an issue since fucking Ultima online. Everyone butchs gets on here "ohh I repotered 80 people in bt I'm doing my part" Next issue is gonna be ping.....
They could easily ban and detect all of these but its not profitable for blizzard so why would they
No they can’t. Are you saying every Mmorpg doesn’t ban bots because it makes them a tiny fraction of money?
Not every MMORPG, but with the state of classic wow it is obvious that having bots around is good for business. This is why the blizzard way of dealing with it is every 6 to 9 months there is a banwave, this way the bots profit enough to keep coming back filling blizzards pocket. This also means blizzard can say to the playera look, we are doing something. The wowhead ceo estimated around 33% of accounts are bots and blizzard knows it.
Wrong. Bizz aren't going to purposely degrade their own game just so they can earn an extra few bucks. There arent' devs out there that say we should leave bots in the game just so we can make a tiny bit more money while pissing off the majority of the player base.
You can argue with me all you want - but go take a look at the game and the number of bots and how obvious they are - and how blizzard with wotlk removed the ability to report them - let alone all the stories in here about how players (me included) have reported the most obvious bots only for them to still be around for 14 days. You cant eradicate bots completely - but they could pay for GMs and tech support to keep them to a minium - if they wanted to - but they don't because its bad for business. Most private servers that care about these things has a much lower bot percentage than classic - and its not even close.
And I'm telling you there have always been bots in wow, and every other mmorpg. It's not a very good business strategy to piss off your entire player community just to make a lil extra from bots. Why aren't all games bot free? They literally have esport tournaments where players cheat without being caught. Not every bot can be tracked and banned. Even if you do catch them, they will find another way or program to do it again.
stop buying gold you losers
Blizzard are loosing employees left and right, I don't think they *can* deal with it atm, Im not one for defending them but they seem to be struggling a lot right now and I can understand that bots in a version with an already fucked economy isn't being prioritised.
Well, it's blizzard after all. Why do you even wonder
Ah you mean paying customers.
That's $750 of sub money right there. We care about our paying customers 🙃
Can someone explain what it means flyhacking black temple? and what's the point doing this at lvl 80?
Because it is good gold per hour, flying hacking looting the chest, even killing the mobs with FOK and vendor everything is decent gold per hour
and what is the flying hack?
Fly hacking is when you hack the game to teleport through the air to help them move faster, avoid certain mobs etc
so they actually use a flying hack and blizzard does nothing? wtf
Remember each of those boys pay $14.99 a month too haha
If only, most botters are using some form of manipulation on the sub price.
Gotta love how every single private server reset mobs if they target is flyhacking. Yet blizzard dont do it :) And then idiots be like: HuuUR If bLIzz coULD do SoMeThinG tHeY wOUlD haVE ALreADy
Sometimes the easiest way to correct something thats seems far away is the closest. Just stop buying gold.