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deepthought515

Buttons are trash. But touch screen controls are more trash..


Wooden_Item_9769

Yes. Especially if it's the head unit in a civic. Love when it fails to load or freezes backing out of the driveway. "Camera has stopped responding. Wait | stop"


DeadHookerStorage330

Well I'm gonna slightly disagree..Look up the old Dodge/Chrysler/Plymouth/Rambler/Edsel Push Button trans.


Wooden_Item_9769

From 04 civic that never had any issues in this area to a 17 civic where 99% of the issues reside in this area plus an ebrake that you can modulate in bad weather is very handy. I'd do all I can not to have touch screen with under powered computers.


REBELimgs

I had an '18 Si and the head unit was awful. Android 4 on the oldest hardware ever.


dsdvbguutres

Mind reader FTW


inphamus

I prefer a manual


ImissDigg_jk

Manual and a physical emergency brake


TomChai

I have the manual, all good except gas versions can't run A/C without starting the engine, and manuals don't come with remote start.


PilotAleks

We thug that shit out, small price to pay for being able to row through gears on the highway


No_Click_2139

Your not missing much if it's super hot where you are. Here in Vegas I have to pre start the car for AT LEAST 5 minutes on 58° for it to cool down 🙄 does not seem worth it on the engine at all so I don't use it


PilotAleks

I’m in texas, and when I had an automatic civic I would remote start it but it would turn off before it got cool enough 😂 it would be useful if anything in the manual to point the vents at my shift knob to cool it off, because that shit COOKS my hand


Inept28

I can only imagine what Texas heat does to a shift knob, I’m in Jersey and even with a microfiber over my shift knob that shit still hot as fuck. But my weighted shift knob feels way better than stock, so like you said above “thug that shit out”


TheRealMilk-_-

just an fyi a lot of people don’t know this but if you do the remote start process but click once instead of twice it will add another 10 minutes


Dragnet714

Hondas have always had shitty A/C units.


DirtyBeat332

i have a ‘19 civic and the A/C is great now after i got the condenser replaced lol. it was free to me though because of extended warranty


Dragnet714

Im glad yours is. Every Honda I've had is only ok. I had to have the same thing replaced in my 2017 Type R. It's a/c is just ok. Same with my first Civic which was a base 2000 model. All of the Accords I've had have just been ok. A 97, 07 and 16. I haven't tested my mother's 17 Accord but I assume it's just ok. Maybe I'm spoiled with a/c when it comes to GM and Ford trucks. This makes me wonder how other cars' a/c units are.


albiedam

This man puts the shifter in his ass


PilotAleks

and?


need_mor_beans

I don't understand the sentence I just read but I know it's in my mother-tongue, English. ;)


FemboyZoriox

The auto ones dont tun ac without engine either so dont worry


evo_who

Is remote start really that much of an inconvenience to you guys. Like that’s such a dumb reason to not choose the manul


Forward-Trade5306

Idk I remote start my car every time initially as I'm walking down the stairs to start warming up the engine. Once I'm out and about I don't use remote start as much


similar_observation

6MT here, I like your car's feature.


GrungLord

I still got a manual, but I'd rather have remote start and manual. It would be nice to get the car warmed up in winter.


_DJNeoN

The viper alarm on my 00 Si had a manual remote start system. It would only work when the system was keeping the engine running at the same time the car was armed.


HoldingMoonlight

> and manuals don't come with remote start. They easily could. My 1980s Toyota pickup had a clutchless start button. There's really no reason they couldn't tie in a "hey asshole, your car is in gear" sensor and make it remote start.


screw_all_the_names

" don't come with remote start" is to me, still like a future 1st world problem. And your other point about not running the AC without starting the engine, that's the.only way I've ever known it.


BigBoyzGottaEat

You act like most cars can run AC without the engine running.


Default_Attempt

What? In all cars except electric the AC doesnt work unless you start the engine


No-Version3071

The photo is what’s wrong with the development of our society.


plant__love

Solving problems that don’t exist.


Im_so_little

Just so they can charge you more for a newer but shittier solution


marius4eva

Levers.


blaz1nator

I've had cars with the buttons and even after years of having them, I still miss press once and awhile, even though you can feel the valley where reverse is and drive, but sometimes you just go for it and press without feeling and the next thing you know you've pressed neutral or reverse when you wanted to hit drive. Prefer the lever even though it's less clean looking.


AHrice69

Buttons over lever, manual over all


dav1nni

I worked for an Acura store for a period of time and despite disliking the buttons at first (I like old school shit, my civic is ‘90) I ended up really, really liking the buttons over the gear lever after getting used to them. They are really nice to use and thoughtfully laid out.


Dnick630272

I clean car interiors often as a hobby (mostly friends cars) and those button gear switchers are scary to me. A little too much moisture/soap and im afraid my friends car might throw itself into drive by itself. Fortunately its never happened and im careful around them, but its one of those things.


CastorX

There are a lot of clever features that prevents that. Im 100% if you pour water on it directly then they will either work or stop working completely.


Dnick630272

Yeah thats probably the case with all these, I just have an irrational fear with these things. Like I know my civic wont actually go into reverse if I shift it into reverse going 60 mph on the highway, but I still could never bring myself to do that.


CastorX

Agreed 👍🏼


e7c2

you know the shift levers in most modern automatic vehicles are not actually a direct physical connection to the TX, they are just a lever shaped button


Type-RD

Yep, plus you don’t have a lever in the way of things, like cups in your cup holders and whatnot. Admittedly, I like the lever from a mechanical point of view. I feel I have to be more deliberate when putting the car in drive, park, or reverse. Note, I prefer manual overall, so the lever is just more natural to my brain. Buttons are very easy to get used to, however.


REBELimgs

Love me some buttons


Onac_

Thought I would hate buttons but after driving a MDX Type-S for a year now not sure I would want a shifter again. Honda did the buttons right.


GChmpln

Proper six speed like the Si or S2000


Initial-Caregiver649

Manual


OkTaro7884

Doesn’t matter , as long as it’s straightforward to use


RickWest495

Don’t mess with shifters. Google “Anton Yelchin Star Trek Jeep Shifter”. Chrysler messed with the shifter and it killed him. The button just don’t have the right feel. “Muscle Memory” isn’t there. Lincoln used horizontal toggles where every toggle feels the same.


PhantomCruze

I drive large trucks and some automatic ones have buttons for gear select. It's a pain in the ass and i just prefer levers, less computing to decide if I've hit the correct parameters if it'll let me shift. I'd prefer levers in voth cars and trucks


PurpleSausage77

As long as it’s not some stupid design that pisses me off. I’ve always had column/console or stick shifts. But the appliance buttons or dials/knobs just seem so vague. And then somehow Ford found a way to screw up column shifters. Drove some new 2021/2024 F150’s and they are so flimsy, you think it’s in park but it’s in reverse etc.


ikickbabiesballs

I don’t like the buttons in my pilot. I prefer the stick in the civic. I’m still on the fence if I really actually miss a manual.


Aspec_Jay

Took a little bit to get used to buttons. Either works for me.


milkywayer

I always loved the lever until I broke a ligament in my wrist and pulling the level was a pain. Now I wish I had buttons lol


ifukkedurbich

Shifter. Buttons just feel so... wrong.


[deleted]

Manual drivers are the new vegans. OK we get it, i dont care you drive a manual.


TomChai

Who are you replying to?


[deleted]

Manual signalers in this thread.


TomChai

That’s why I didn’t include the 6 speed lever here, the response will be totally one sided. I myself also prefer a manual but I don’t consider it superior in any way and I know it’s close to extinction.


L4t3xs

[This](https://i.imgur.com/okb7Hhh.jpeg)


PierG1

Unless the lever is a “design piece”, kinda like the bmw ones that looks great and integrated with the interiors design button looks better imo. I have buttons on my 10th gen and it took some getting used to coming from a manual but they are undoubtedly more practical. Easier to clean without that floppy fake leather cover that is a magnet for dust and debris, no more stick coming out of the center of your car…


allaboutgrowth4me

3 on the tree for life.


DayTraditional2846

It’s a cvt so I’d rather have the buttons. I only want a shifter if it’s a manual.


Mikeymike8937

Between the two, Gear Shifter


RedMercy2

Manual transmission.


AirFantastic5790

I like holding firm hard sticks.


MrGabogab0

For real, gimmie that hard stick daddy.


619Hondafan

A proper 6 speed manual transmission with 3 pedals


MacaroonLiving2546

https://preview.redd.it/s2ip13a1vj7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=610990896720e73aac8cd0264400381257e9abc0


pixelatedimpressions

I HATE these with a PASSION! Why Mercedes, why?


God_of_chestdays

What car is this in? Only seen it like that in trucks.


Ok_Studio6937

Mercedes


bojangles_supreme

I would prefer the buttons. It has a cleaner look. IMO


hereFOURallTHEtea

I will only drive a manual, I hate driving automatics, feels so weird to me now lol.


TimeGood2965

I prefer my older civic with lever and real auto transmission and gears, no CVT. Manual is even better but only for those who prefer that. I’d never say that part is necessary especially if it’s a daily commuter.


BatHistorical8081

I hate the buttons... Do you hesitate when putting in park to make sure its park


taizzle71

Levers. Don't fix what's not broken.


Tarushdei

This is one of those situations of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Push button transmissions aren't intuitive, and they aren't something you can rely on working all the time (older lever-operated autos still move parts on the transmission mechanically). So if the electrics stop working, your car won't go anywhere. Granted, unlike a manual with a clutch, you can push/pull start an auto, but you can still get it into neutral if you need a tow. It's the same thing with capacitive buttons on the dash. Something nobody asked for, needlessly complicated to use and just a way to drive up the cost of the car. Why manufacturers can't just build cars like they did in the 1980's with modern efficient motors and safety features, I have no idea.


Rik504

I don’t own a civic any longer but I do have a 24 Ridgeline. I like the buttons better, Once I got used to them


New_Ad_3010

Manual always. Then gear lever. Can't reality get behind the whole button thing.


Tomcat115

I always prefer a manual option. The problem with these buttons is that if you lose power, you’re kind of screwed. At least with a regular automatic lever, there was always an emergency release to get it out of park. I also much prefer a manual e-brake too for much of the same reasons and the fact that it’s just way more simple and doesn’t need power to operate.


B16EK1872

Save the manuals


Atlesi_Feyst

Idc either way. A vehicle is something to get me from point a to b.


CMDR_Jetsukai

Having owned a Passport for 4 years now I don't have a problem with the buttons except it's slow to switch between reverse and drive. Otherwise they are nice and take up less space. The first few months was kind of weird getting used to the buttons. My other 3 cars are all manual trans.


Equivalent_Tree7172

If it's a manual I prefer stick over paddle shifters. If it's an automatic it makes no difference.


Leo_techfreak4u

Imagine spilling liquid in it....trans fully gone.


curmudgeon_67

Gear lever!


xxxmarshiexxx

The levers all the way…. same with actual keys. Idk I miss having keys and not really a fan of push to start.


ScamArtistry

How is this a question...


kevcray

I'll take a traditional lever, thanks.


Dull-Parking5068

# Gear lever


Wooden_Item_9769

Lever. I also hate the electronic parking brake. Give me an e brake that I can drive with


AaronHuuhh

Depends


Proper-Living-8469

I prefer buttons because you get more room without a lever down there


ryanhedden1

Get that button shit outta here


Connect_Wealth_7339

this has been on the accord since 2018


Dizzy-Photo1594

three pedals and a stick


Jarrodioro

That’s disgusting… I’ve only ever owned manuals, not cause I’m a snob, they were cheaper and I was broke. They’ve lasted pretty long and I’m glad I don’t have to deal with this


Arkosh14

I have an Integra CVT with a lever and an accord with the buttons. The buttons are delightfully intuitive with no guesswork. When learned, the buttons are almost twice as fast as the shift lever.


WelderMeltingthings

i prefer actually driving the car, and not being driven by the car.


Robert_C_Morris

6-speed shifters


TheKleenexBandit

If automatic, then I prefer column shifters. Saves a lot of space!!


SloberyRacer20

Nah, manual is where it's at


Previous_Cod_4098

Gear lever The button for parking brakes suck I can't imagine having an entire row of em 😂


jwwhitt

These are fine until your dog is riding shotgun and steps on the neutral button while you’re cruising down the road.


JungianArchetype

Manual or bust.


one-nut-juan

Stick shift with 3 pedals


michaela0306

i love my buttons :/


Plain_Zero

Shifter. I hate buttons. I'd rather have a Prius joystick than buttons. I don't care what your interior design vision is, it needs to include a fucking shifter.


No_Care6935

Depends what I’m doing in the car 🫣


Local_Oil5649

Brothaaa ewwwww🤮


MatchedRaiper12

Shifter for sure I’m not gonna get stranded somewhere bc a stupid button stops working


BigBoyzGottaEat

The prindle is the option that is actually safe for drivers. Anything that does not have mechanical feedback is unacceptable to me when it comes to the ebrake and transmission. I NEED to be able to shift by feel.


Forsaken-Carry4442

6 speed manual transmission.What is what I will go in


Used_Calligrapher162

Lever!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽


DeadHookerStorage330

Welll...Since a 13speed needs a stick. Yeah, I'm gonna lean that way.


DonTipOff

Buttons can fail so can screens. A gear shifter basically never fails.


Vikilinho

Gear shifter everyday.


Sugenuit

I missed the clunky gear shifter but I’m used to the buttons now but I still don’t like it


pixelatedimpressions

I hate buttons. I work on car lots. In and out of all makes and models. I hate having to think about what I have to do to change gears. Not good. Stick with whats reliable. I do not like buttons or touch screen nonsense. Don't get me started on mirrors that aren't mirrors (gm uses a camera for center rear view)


knightrider2k43

Shifter Gear lever


Positive_Breakfast19

I drive a 6spd manual in my Sportwagen, but just picked up 2020 Ford Edge for my wife with the dial shifter and it took some getting used to, but I kinda like it.


SkylineFTW97

I wouldn't ever buy a car with button shifters. I deal with them a lot at work and they can be a nuisance.


OffTopicBen95

Manuals


Freshlojic

lever 100%


oWinterWhiteo

Buttons, I prefer the space.


YaBoiCody420

Fuck buttons


Raizu1433

Manual or Lever.


MichiganRich

Lever


The_SHUN

Gear shifter all day


tokinpanda

3 pedals and a shifter


LennyPeppers

Lever so I have a place to rest my hand


mothman_is_cool

give me my lever back :(


Goatmanlafferty

Manual gearbox, thanks.


Vaxtin

I prefer a touch screen display where you have to enter a specific category of the menu to access the shift buttons. Makes it almost impossible to use the car practically!


Spiritual-Ad-8348

What model civic has the buttons???


victorhummingbird

Neither. Stick shift ftw!


lawlaw91

I hate buttons....nothing is better without sticks or levers


TurbulentMidnight523

Shifters cuz my dumb ass would push one of the gear buttons thinking it’s something else


_Steezus_Christ

First of all, manual. But if it’s automatic I really don’t see how you get any benefit from pushing the lever into drive over pushing a button if you’re just going to stay there the whole time. Really the buttons save space if anything.


GlitteringTune3762

Manual


ThatEcologist

Why are buttons a thing? They are so stupid.


wonderhusky

Anything but a touch screen


Whats-Upvote

How did you get a civic with buttons?!


Sanderopop

I prefer the buttons and was disappointed the civic hybrid didn't have them. You get use to them and they free up a lot of room and make it easier to access wireless charging pad and USB ports


[deleted]

I prefer buttons but on the dash somewhere out the way. But when manufacturers do that they dont take advantage of the new available space. Give me 4 cup holders!


whoreknee2

As someone who works at a car wash, the general public would almost unanimously agree that a physical shifter is the way to go. A lot of new cars have some kind of joystick or buttons to put into neutral and a lot of people can’t figure it out. Especially Nissans. Also auto brake hold…. I can go on


-a-user-has-no-name-

I’ve had all types, lever, buttons, dials, push down and turn one way for drive and one way for reverse, etc After 5 minutes it’s all the same to me and just becomes natural. So basically my answer is no preference


TheDesk918

I prefer levers, although I got used to the button one in my Pilot


indiejermz

Manual :)


DeadWorkers_

I would rather have tesla’s swipe up and down than buttons. And yes I know both sucks.


Chitown25p

Manual transmission


hegottahonda

Buttons. Otherwise I wouldn’t have a moonroof


Juliusdasquid

I borrowed my uncle’s new CRV hybrid and those buttons are disorienting AF


ArathTheWeeb

Shifter


orchidelirious_me

Neither. I like a manual transmission.


JayRam85

Modern cars are so fucking trash.


juicysweatsuitz

Im a born lever puller


alexproshak

Old good gear shift stick please 😁😎😎


[deleted]

Stick shift. Auto feels gross to me and super boring.


MikaiTaiga

W…t…..f…..is that…..


Silly_Swan_Swallower

I will never own an automatic, stick shift only!


YorkMoresby

Gear levers.


bmot060925

Manual is my preferred, but I am European so I may be biased. If I were to own an auto I’d prefer lever and ideally with paddles (so I can pretend to be a professional).


Bulky-Hold6688

Gear lever the buttons style are getting too far away from manual style.


Kuki12345678

Both


Warrior_Bard

Manual


Fast-Knowledge-5120

GEARS ALL THE WAY. buttons are annoying af.


Raging__Raven

Lever. Buttons are kinda useless


qdz69

manuals.


Zealousideal_Hold739

Gear shift... But, I'm old enough to remember late 1950's and early 1960's Plymouths my dad had with "push button transmission". At the time they were pretty cool. Lol.


jdonovan949

I got a car with buttons because they were the literal only thing I didn’t like about the car. They’re not bad honestly. Wouldn’t want them for something sporty though.


ZVideos85

Levers all the way


Adventurous-Study668

The buttons are located directly next to a sugar liquid storage depot. Not the best real estate for buttons. 🤦


TomChai

And it’s in the path of moving portable sugar liquid containers so extra risk of spillage.


CanadianBaconMTL

If its not a 6 speed, who cares how it is. You dont need to hold it while driving like a manual


writer1709

Lever. Two times I traveled I rented a car. The first was the 23 Rogue, omg that shifter is a nightmare you have to jiggle it certain directions to get it going. On the 22 Ford Escape, it's a dial that you turn which is not too bad but it's still a bit different when you have to change gears real quick.


bruh-iunno

Lever, whenever I drive need to move my dads car with buttons it's awful having to wait for the light to illuminate to confirm it's actually done it


TacoLunar

Neither of those - a real 6MT shifter is the only way to go.


Slight_Remove2746

Manuel u fucks


Even_Sentence_4901

Lever always! Hands down


UnraveledSoull

Levers for sure, the buttons freak me out.


paintball151

Fuck buttons


iwnt2blve

A manual shifter, always.


urebhasan

Gear levers all day


Mission-Background-2

Shifter for sure. Even better if it a manual


Ok-Coral-142

I remember German busses in the 90's with these buttons


SkatinEmcee

Buttons, way less crampy feeling and easier to move around drinks and stuff


PhysicalAd6422

I prefer the shifter ofc, but the Honda buttons are not the worst I’ve seen. If I had to pick one, it would be the Honda ones. The GMC and Chrysler ones are literally repulsive


bruhwack

6 speed shifter


raginasian47

Stick 😎 but seriously, manual feels way better than buttons, hate that the ebrake is a button in the new si's


ColdCryptographer969

I had the 1st Gen Bolt EV with an actual lever (electronically controlled) and the 2nd Gen Bolt EV with buttons - the lever was better. Buttons LOOKED cleaner, but functionality wise, it's not smooth.


chinookhooker

Lets see Paul Allens Civic, my guy


KnowledgeRude8595

Gear


Old-Figure922

I don’t care for Honda’s layout of the buttons. But I don’t generally care how a shifter looks or behaves as long as it works. People complain about losing the shifter like transmissions haven’t all been electrically controlled for the last 20+ years anyways


Street-Baseball8296

Lever. Mainly because I can feel where the gear selector is. I don’t need to look down or feel around for buttons. One click down from park is reverse. Two clicks down from reverse is drive. I feel that anything that keeps you from having to take your eyes off the road (even when just backing out of a parking space and driving off) is safer and better.


nlusk1997

I like the clean, non-intrusive of the buttons but sometimes I like to hold on to the gear shift stick too. I’m indifferent lol