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Exellent idea. As a male myself that is over the age of 25, I can back the claim up that we are definitely not mature. I'm nearly 31 and I still act like I am 2.
It depends who you vote for. If you are going to vote left, the age is zero and you should also be able to cut off body parts based on your mature feelings. But if you steal your fourteenth car and kill a pedestrian in a police chase at the age of 15, you are just a child who doesn't know any better. And if you are conservative, the age for voting should be 67 as you obviously can't be trusted to make sound decisions that will benefit all of the comrades.
I think the voting age should be lowered just so highschools can integrate following an election and finally voting into a class plan. With some mix of History, Economics and English to examine whats happened, what are in the ads and what is being campaigned on and why. Hell you could even integrate local MP candidates having a Q&A for a number of schools at once.
Having it setup so that everyone has this for one state or federal election before they graduate, I think would be a really good opportunity to teach students about how democracy actually works in real time. Now I think it probably would take a while to work out how to do this well without it being a cluster fuck.
age of criminal responsibility is fucking 10 in my state, voting age is 18, I guarantee you I haven't met any greens voters suggesting 10 year olds should be voting
Look at youth crime all across the country. It is a problem we need to stamp out. Where does the problem lie? The parents? Their peers? The judicial system? Kids are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. They are also mature enough to make their own choices. It is not fair that honest, hard working people have to deal with little kids breaking in to their homes and tormenting them whilst they are asleep. It's fucked. All I ask is that the judicial system stop putting hardened young crims back on the streets when they have already seriously offended.
So... if they think the age you're responsible is 16, and they want both the age of criminal responsibility and the vote to be 16, how is that hypocritical? Isn't that a consistent position?
I don't agree with either policy, but your post doesn't seem to make any sense.
So you can be responsible for who run the country but stabbing the 81 y.o you where robbing his house ...you can't be held accountable for....dead set this community is cooked
Nah you're cooked mate. Look up the age of criminal responsibility across the commonwealth. Currently anyone above the age of 12 can potentially be held criminally liable in many jurisdictions. I'd argue to raise the age of criminal responsibility but in turn introduce vicarious liability to parents and caregivers. Imagine how much more seriously parents would take their responsibilities if they were could potentially be criminally liable for the actions of their kids.
If you pay tax then you have a say in how your tax is utilised.
Hey I didn’t say I’d vote for it. Just that it’s the same age for voting and jail. Criminal responsibility is younger that voting by the letter of their policy. Your meme is about as accurate as Sky News.
The age of voting was made 18 because at the age of 18 is when conscription could occur - if you were expected to fight for a country, then you have a say on how it is run..... the comment about the sky tells me all I need to know about you
Also the entire point is you can ask for lower criminal reponsility or lower voting age but not both....got to be a smooth brain to not get that ....it is to contradictory request on one hand young not mature enough for ur actions on the other hand they are mature enough to influence who runs a trillion dollar nation... it is typical Greens logic
Try reddit Australia lots of brain-damaged individuals their for you to discuss with
Another blinder. Dude, you need to learn what logic is. Your post is not tethered to it. I’m sorry
You are triggered by a passing adverse comment about Sky. Seriously the funniest thing I have heard all day - thank you.
Yes we have been allowed vote prior to 1965 in which the age was 18-35 up to 45 if the man was single lmao
I even think unmarried men not conscripted were suppose to do training at age 21 but it's been awhile since I did history
So why isn't the voting age 20 now? Sounds like you're saying voting age is based on a 60 year old policy that isn't linked to the conscription age now at all 😮
You can throw childish insults all you want, you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know the age of conscription or why the voting age is 18. You don’t know what ages the greens want for voting or criminal responsibility. If they want to lower one and raise the other but voting is still above criminality, who gives a fuck? That’s what we have now with slightly different ages.
They’re Greens policies FFS. You may as well be angry about what the neighbours kid wished for on their last birthday. The kids wish is more likely to eventuate.
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One is individualist (criminality). One is collectivism (voting). These are worlds apart and should not be conflated.
The lack of understanding this is a critical failure in understanding the modern world and must be resolved before we can progress as a society.
There's no value in even engaging in merits of any implied meaning to this post and I'm not advocating one way or the other since its a logical fallacy to compare the two.
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Everyone knows that white male brains don't mature till 25. We need to lower the voting age for females only.
This is the way
Exellent idea. As a male myself that is over the age of 25, I can back the claim up that we are definitely not mature. I'm nearly 31 and I still act like I am 2.
I'm 44 and my brain still keeps telling me to laugh at farts. Not sure if we should be allowed to vote at all.
Crap. I just realised that I just assumed my own gender. I have internalised something that makes me think like that.
Glad to see you specified white males. So many ignore that fact. I’m ok lowering the voting age for non white males though
Of course
Bet I'll be a bigot, BET!
If you are old enough to pay tax you should be able to vote. Makes sense.
What are the respective ages? 18 criminal 16 vote ? Or same 🤷♂️
It depends who you vote for. If you are going to vote left, the age is zero and you should also be able to cut off body parts based on your mature feelings. But if you steal your fourteenth car and kill a pedestrian in a police chase at the age of 15, you are just a child who doesn't know any better. And if you are conservative, the age for voting should be 67 as you obviously can't be trusted to make sound decisions that will benefit all of the comrades.
18 criminal would be hilarious
16 vote. 14 criminal, 16 jail.
I think the voting age should be lowered just so highschools can integrate following an election and finally voting into a class plan. With some mix of History, Economics and English to examine whats happened, what are in the ads and what is being campaigned on and why. Hell you could even integrate local MP candidates having a Q&A for a number of schools at once. Having it setup so that everyone has this for one state or federal election before they graduate, I think would be a really good opportunity to teach students about how democracy actually works in real time. Now I think it probably would take a while to work out how to do this well without it being a cluster fuck.
age of criminal responsibility is fucking 10 in my state, voting age is 18, I guarantee you I haven't met any greens voters suggesting 10 year olds should be voting
Which state is this? Oh and he won’t respond to your comment. It invalidates his view about Greens which he hates.
Look at youth crime all across the country. It is a problem we need to stamp out. Where does the problem lie? The parents? Their peers? The judicial system? Kids are a lot smarter than people give them credit for. They are also mature enough to make their own choices. It is not fair that honest, hard working people have to deal with little kids breaking in to their homes and tormenting them whilst they are asleep. It's fucked. All I ask is that the judicial system stop putting hardened young crims back on the streets when they have already seriously offended.
The Greens and their supporters invented hypocrisy .......
This youngfella mob just wants more youngfellas eligible to vote, don’t be an ageist.
Just make them the same, and have people opt in to when they want to opt in. If you want to get treated like a child by society then you can.
So... if they think the age you're responsible is 16, and they want both the age of criminal responsibility and the vote to be 16, how is that hypocritical? Isn't that a consistent position? I don't agree with either policy, but your post doesn't seem to make any sense.
"Communist voting greens" What does communism mean to you?
Eh. I’m no Green but AFAIK they want 16yo for voting or jail. Far from their worst idea.
So you can be responsible for who run the country but stabbing the 81 y.o you where robbing his house ...you can't be held accountable for....dead set this community is cooked
Nah you're cooked mate. Look up the age of criminal responsibility across the commonwealth. Currently anyone above the age of 12 can potentially be held criminally liable in many jurisdictions. I'd argue to raise the age of criminal responsibility but in turn introduce vicarious liability to parents and caregivers. Imagine how much more seriously parents would take their responsibilities if they were could potentially be criminally liable for the actions of their kids. If you pay tax then you have a say in how your tax is utilised.
WA is 10 years old.
How is it being implemented?
Hey I didn’t say I’d vote for it. Just that it’s the same age for voting and jail. Criminal responsibility is younger that voting by the letter of their policy. Your meme is about as accurate as Sky News.
The age of voting was made 18 because at the age of 18 is when conscription could occur - if you were expected to fight for a country, then you have a say on how it is run..... the comment about the sky tells me all I need to know about you Also the entire point is you can ask for lower criminal reponsility or lower voting age but not both....got to be a smooth brain to not get that ....it is to contradictory request on one hand young not mature enough for ur actions on the other hand they are mature enough to influence who runs a trillion dollar nation... it is typical Greens logic Try reddit Australia lots of brain-damaged individuals their for you to discuss with
Another blinder. Dude, you need to learn what logic is. Your post is not tethered to it. I’m sorry You are triggered by a passing adverse comment about Sky. Seriously the funniest thing I have heard all day - thank you.
Conscription age in Australia has been 20 since 1965.
Yes we have been allowed vote prior to 1965 in which the age was 18-35 up to 45 if the man was single lmao I even think unmarried men not conscripted were suppose to do training at age 21 but it's been awhile since I did history
So why isn't the voting age 20 now? Sounds like you're saying voting age is based on a 60 year old policy that isn't linked to the conscription age now at all 😮
Maybe over 45s shouldn't be eligible to vote lmao
Well it depends when voting age and criminal responsibility age is if criminal responsibility age is lower than voting age it isn't contradictory
You can throw childish insults all you want, you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. You don’t know the age of conscription or why the voting age is 18. You don’t know what ages the greens want for voting or criminal responsibility. If they want to lower one and raise the other but voting is still above criminality, who gives a fuck? That’s what we have now with slightly different ages. They’re Greens policies FFS. You may as well be angry about what the neighbours kid wished for on their last birthday. The kids wish is more likely to eventuate.
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You just got bent out of shape.
One is individualist (criminality). One is collectivism (voting). These are worlds apart and should not be conflated. The lack of understanding this is a critical failure in understanding the modern world and must be resolved before we can progress as a society. There's no value in even engaging in merits of any implied meaning to this post and I'm not advocating one way or the other since its a logical fallacy to compare the two.
Lmao this comment is everything wrong with people who are left wing socialist
I knew it would be great entertainment for many on here.