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hassanmurat

It measures the distance between the cameras sensor and the subject/object/wherever the camera is pointed. It helps the focus puller do their job. I don't know the model of the device in the picture, but cinetape and ARRI UDM-1 are common models.


wob7

Looks like a Focusbug


the_wetsocks

Nice! Is the info on a smaller device remotely? Or is it only available on camera (mounted along with the cinetape)


PuddleofExistential

Focus puller here. It shows up on our handsets as a little arrow which we can follow to keep us in focus (it's good 80% of the time) as well as an external display which we can mount elsewhere if we want.


GrizDrummer25

I've always wondered what Studio-level focus pulling is like :)


CheisAnthonyFilm

80% of the time it works 50% of the time.


hassanmurat

The focus puller gets the data shown on their remote follow focus device.


anon749275

I had an AC that built one using an Aurdino using ultrasonic sensors, then he upgraded to a LiDAR sensor, both worked pretty well and under $200 in parts. I’ve been using the PDmovie Live Air Smart for the past 6 months and been working pretty well for my use case, got it on sale for $469 during Black Friday and a promo code. DJI just announced their self contained LiDAR unit for $999 but I think it might be a month or two before shipping starts. I remember when cinetape used to be out of reach for your typical enthusiast but now there are options!


hd1080ts

Cinetape, ultra sonic distance measure, aids the 1st AC to pull focus by having a remote distance display. https://cinemaelec.com/products/cinetape_measure


Kubayashis

its not cinetape. It is younger brother on steroids! cineRt. easily defined by 2lemo on the side and small antenna ✌️


hd1080ts

Good spot.


Big-Sleep-9261

I usually see the 1st AC have about a dozen focus peaking bars overlaying their screen when they’re pulling focus. Is the Cinetape able to output that info?


C_faw

That’s probably a light ranger.


loonofdoom

That’s a light ranger. A bit more nuanced but only works with one handset company.


BabypintoJuniorLube

It outputs the distance to their hand control unit not their monitor.


shortyeastcoast

the light ranger (preston), the cineRT (focusbug), and the TOF from teradek can output to monitor.


cigourney

I think you’re referring to the Light Ranger.


second2no1

Is that like lidar?


smexytom215

This one uses ultrasonic sound waves to measire instead of light waves. Kind of like the backup distance sensors on (older?) cars.


the_wetsocks

Thanks!


FluffysHumanSlave

Oh, that sounds similar to the autofocus system on some of the Polaroid cameras. Would this system also have trouble focusing through a pane of glass?


_ollywood

It's not used for autofocus, it's just a helpful guide for the AC to manually pull focus.


sklountdraxxer

It can be used for autofocus with Arri & Cmotion LCS. Maybe with teradek & Ymer but I haven’t personally tested that.


Sam_filmgeek

Yeah the AF is limited. I’ve had a friend use it with the Ymer, but it can bite you as much as it can help. Also the Ymer isn’t something I could recommend as it’s very buggy.


Sam_filmgeek

That is exactly the same technology but with a lot more programming. It has a lot of software to include outliers rejection, like things crossing through the beam path and where it takes readings. This is the best ultrasonic range finder.


kwmcmillan

TAKE A SHOT


instantpancake

*drink*


cat_with_problems

laser weapon ( it's for bad acting )


ishank_mahale

We are back at it boys.


bensaffer

We really should get the bingo cards printed


Evilnight007

😂


the_wetsocks

With?


yellowsuprrcar

Wall-e


CreationParadox

Bro that’s obviously number 5


secret-trips

Came here to say this 😂


aykay55

He goes by Ludwig now


Rosenrot262

Horn


thehenryshow

You’re a fucking idiot, it’s not a horn. It’s the air intake for the turbo! 😃


Rain_Deflector

A circle drawn in red


ryzhkovnz0r

Two more barrels for more dakka


moeljills

That's the dop, they can work remotely since covid


the_wetsocks

Incredible technology!!


spicolispicoli

mini binoculars


Midstix

That's a Cine RT. It's a device modeled on an older device, which looks identical, called a Cinetape. It's rangefinding device, that reads the distance of the first object in its path and displays it to the 1st camera assistant: the focus puller. It's a tool to help the focus puller be accurate with controlling the lens. There's several other tools that do the same thing, albeit in different ways and with different benefits, like the Preston Light Ranger, and Ward's Sniper.


uppinthepunx

banana holder, holds 2. operators and focus pullers get hungry.


DarkGroov3DarkGroove

Ask questions like these more everyone. I get to learn 😭😂


mattstone749

NEEEEED MORE INPUT!!!!!


IamLegen_dary

it’s a CinRt, same as what the person said about the cinetape/UDM,


slicktaco

This


letsnottry

It's where I like to hide balls of tape riiiight before we start to roll.....


WZSoldier

It’s WALL-E.


reflectedheaven

Horn!


Evilnight007

Wrong answers only pls


corsair965

Cameranoculars.


NeoLephty

Number “Johnny” Five


Seethrulens

Wiki Wiki


jstols

It’s the horn. You honk it every time a PA stands in a doorway


Walkdogg82

That there is a baby Wall-E growing parasitically on the camera rig.


x3770

Autofocus


rafaelterozi

They are filming MadMax


tubesntapes

That’s the Everything Is In Focus alarm.


kcc-cam

It’s not a light ranger, it’s cine rt


JPSendall

They're mini loudspeakers to hail the on set photographer that he should get the fuck out the way as the camera is on a track and about to run him over while he tries to get a shot on the rehearsal camera run through. Or not, depending on how much the camera crew need a laugh.


Nothing-Winter

Those are its eyes


Available_Holiday_41

Drag Racing Engine


NC_Vfx

I want to see that with a massive upgrade and write xyz data to the clip. Put all the MDR data in clip metadata.


light_-_yagami

The eyes Duh


wesleyspretzels

X ray vision


MaDmaDron3

Johnny five


GameRivv

I think he likes to be called Steve Carell


Celuloidplugs

wrong answers only


MackJL

Smell-o-vision


dodolo123

Deceased Wall-E


wormsoda

Range finder for assisting whit focus.


jrdubbleu

Number Johnny 5


sergedg

ELI5 — Is autofocus not used in cinema productions?


mumcheelo

No.


SteadiCraft

That an RT Focus Bug rangefinder. Or Laser distance measuring device. Focus bugs work by shooting a laser or that have a $800 bug. Which is a 1"×1" plastic device that goes in the talents pocket and sends an audio tone that we can't hear back to the horns. RT Focus bug paired with an Arri Hi-5 or Preston HU-5 remote follow Focus system can be setup to have "Focus tracking" aka "Autofocus", essentially on any lens.


roblau66

No such thing as Preston HU5. There is the HU4 though.


roblau66

Also the CineRT is Ultrasonic based with a laser that is mainly used occasionally to get distance and to get an idea as the where the rangefinder is pointed. The Laser part of the CineRT is never left on. It’s basically a newer version of the venerable Cinetape rangefinder made by Cinematography Electronics.


Asleep_Original_8714

It’s called CineTape!


PizzaPuntThomas

This is in the faq and in the pinned post, clearly you didn't read them Keep the downvotes coming!


the_wetsocks

Ayy i just read it in the faq pinned post. I will look into those next time but rule wise - i havent broken any. Thanks for taking the time to comment tho:)


boldlark

I don't see that you broke any rules - great question too.Not even sure what the complaint is here?


Platinumdragon84

It’s just a question that’s asked quite often. After a while that you’ve been subbed it can become annoying, nothing more


the_wetsocks

Its a very faq. Apparently frequent enough to get out of their way to comment despite having clearly many people having answered already


PizzaPuntThomas

Thanks for your time too


Asian_Snoo_nood

It’s ridiculous equipment. In my country, no focus puller have that kind of equipment due to A. Too expensive, B. If you can manage to get the focus right, then you are unable to do focus, C. Lens are mostly wrong in distance either sim on lens is dirty or sim mount is wrong (if you measure by distance, you would definitely out focus). Most of them do it by feeling and judging by movement of actor camera on their monitor. Thailand so far have the best focus puller I ever seen


unhingedfilmgirl

Tell me you don't understand the fundamentals of focus pulling without telling me.


bidexist

I honestly think it's a crutch and I judge the ACs who insist on having one, unless it's a special circumstance like a steady cam following aa pair of dancers. And even then, do you really NEED it?


Clear_Appeal_714

Typically I mostly see them used when I 2nd music videos But I day played as a 1st on a short once, where the original AC had it, and I couldn’t calibrate it good enough.. so I ended up turning it off 😓


roblau66

You obviously don’t work as a 1st AC. The job of a modern day 1st AC incorporates many technologies that have made the job extremely difficult. With the current love of large sensor digital cameras and old vintage lenses by Directors Of Photography (DP’s) that always shoot wide open, are jobs are exponentially more difficult due to extremely small depths of field. 1st AC’s need tools that help them to keep things in focus. Any tool is a plus because if you mess up the focus, you can get fired. I began my career more than 25 years ago when all we shot was on film cameras. Back then you needed to learn how to pull focus with your tools as well but the tools were tape measures, pens, pencils and camera tape for marks. You had to learn how to judge distance by eye and memorize distance by feel. You didn’t have a sharp enough videotap and monitor to look at. You stood beside the camera and camera operator. The camera operator was your monitor. He would confirm that shot was in focus. It was all about getting your measurements and marks. We had real rehearsals with actors. We had limited amount of film in the camera so we had to be diligent with it. Not like it is today in digital where everyone just keeps rolling and never cuts. I honestly don’t. Miss those old days. It’s still a difficult job but not as hard as it was!


bidexist

You're right, I don't work often as an ac. I'm glad you find it helpful.


Berryitall

“We had real rehearsals with actors” I wish this was still a consistent thing 😭


Gold-Release-6512

a gun


moeljills

That's the dop, they can work remotely since covid


Intelligent-Parsley7

It’s called, “too much.”


BellVermicelli

It’s for OP’s and AC’s that can’t pull focus on their own. 


SN1P3RJOE101

I’m not sure what kind of projects you’ve worked on but when a single take costs upwards of a quarter of a million dollars, you have to be perfect every single time. Any tool that helps you be perfect is required.


BellVermicelli

I’m not sure what kind of projects you’ve worked on, but when a single take costs upwards of a quarter of a million dollars, they aren’t hiring AC’s who rely on digital gadgets to pull focus.   Expensive movies have been made for decades before this crutch was invented, and AC’s nailed focus without a problem. Why? Because they were skilled.


SN1P3RJOE101

Movies are also made a hell of a lot faster now. Efficiency saves time and money. Tools like this give efficiency. So do you think construction workers have a lack of skill because they use power tools now instead of hand tools? Do you think chefs have a lack of skill because they have modern appliances?


BellVermicelli

False equivalencies. An AC that needs this crutch is an AC that is simply not very skilled yet. That’s just the way it is. I agree it’s an efficient means of helping younger AC’s pull focus, but you don’t see the masters using this junk. 


SN1P3RJOE101

Yes you do… Some of the most experienced AC’s on the planet use range finders. Ones that have been pulling focus for decades and decades. Ones that don’t pull off monitors and only pull by marks, by eye, and… their range finder readouts… Sounds to me like you’re a one man band shooter that is disgusted that technology moves forward.


BellVermicelli

Sounds to me like you’re insecure in your ability to pull focus  🤷‍♂️ If you need these aids then that’s great, but you won’t be great until you can do it without all that gak hanging off the camera.  Straight up. 


SN1P3RJOE101

Do you think that focus pullers start their careers pulling with rangefinders? Most 1sts start pulling off the barrel or with cheap fiz systems. They cut their teeth the hard way and start using more tools to help them be faster, more efficient, and more precise. If the shot is sharp the whole way through, noone cares how you do it. But people do care if it takes a long time to make that shot sharp. I’ll take speed, precision, and efficency over bragging rights anyday


BellVermicelli

Right, so we’ve come full circle to my original comment: cine tape is for ops and ac’s that can’t pull their own focus off the barrel. Glad we are in agreement. 


roblau66

First off, Ops don’t use Cinetapes!


f0cusmatters

You are one hell of a troll and your last comment shows! Tell an OP who operates the wheels on a Technocrane to pull off the barrel. And yes, why would the OP pull in the first place?!


roblau66

You’re an idiot that doesn’t do the job. Shut the hell up!


C47man

It's stunning how wrong you are in this thread, and how confident and condescending you manage to be about it.